I Max Out a New Land Rover Defender and Take It Up the World's Toughest Towing Test!
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Great review, you covered all the good and not so good bits really fairly. It looks like a well thought out product, as usual for Land Rover, they just need to deliver on the quality, customer service and reliability this time.
I think the Landcruiser, and G Wagen will be the natural competition. Bronco and Wrangler buyers will probably be a slightly younger, possibly less financially established market.
OMG I'm so sorry you had to listen to these people. 😥
Great review. Are you kidding me
Deliver on quality, customer service and reliability, oh dear another fail then!!!!!!
Viranga Abeywickrema considering the electronics , plastics and sensors , it might be less “durable” in proper offroading than its predecessor
@@RAKITHA9 Definitely more expensive to damage when off-road than its predecessor. I drove it's predecessor and towed a 3tonne drilling rig in it almost every day for a few months. It took a beating, but I can't emphasize how slow, uncomfortable, and unstable, noisy, and hot it was while doing so
Our local Land Rover dealer finally got enough of these in where they weren't already spoken for so I got to drive one yesterday. Look, it's freaking nice. Great ride with far better handling and road manners than anything this capable has a right to be. And yes, it is very capable for most people, most of the time. I know a lot of people watch too many TH-cam videos and think everything needs to be able to scale fifty foot rock faces and crack the earth when in comes down on the other side without getting so much as a scratch but there's nothing that will do either. No, for real world usage this will get most people as far off the beaten path as they really ever should go and get them back all while being a great everyday driver for the ninety nine percent of the time they spend on pavement. You know, the pavement, the same place where ninety five percent of the guys wishing it had three lockers and forty inch tires spend their time. If you're a serious off road fanatic you build/modify a rig to your taste and needs from good used stock. You don't spend your time wishing a manufacturer would build the dream rig you can't afford anyway. Heck, I can't afford this thing. I just have a friend who works at the dealership. Oh, and in the Pangea Green, it looks fantastic. Yes, it really is a new and improved version of the old LR4/Discovery which is a good thing as the new Discovery no longer looks or feels like a proper Land Rover.
Congrats!
I agree with you on many points except for one issue - where do you think we get that good used stock to build our real wheelers from? The manufacturers need to produce something we can work with even if it's in the second hand market. While the new Defender (as noted, really this fills the Discovery roll more than the traditional Defender roll) is adequate for light off-roading or perhaps overlanding it's not the sort of platform that will lend itself to future use as a serious off-roader. I just returned from Rovicon 2 with 21 Rovers on the Rubicon. Plenty of those were old Defenders or Series trucks. I suspect it will be quite some time, if ever, before we see this version making any sort of regular appearance in the rocks. So while I understand that most won't actually use the truck off-road, I'd have much rather this became the new Disco and they produced a truly utilitarian proper Defender for work and play; something that follows more in line with the model's roots as an easy to modify vehicle that can be built to suite your own needs.
@@donhappel9566 Hey Don, you raise a very fair point. And it's a point that speaks to the conundrum manufacturers face in how far they can or should go when it comes to indulging enthusiast ideas. Sure, would an updated but still old school Defender replacement have been awesome in theory? Absolutely. But how many people would have actually bought the thing? Enthusiasts tend to be guys who are second or third owners of that good used stock for many good reasons. Not the least of which is being unwilling to put a sixty plus thousand dollar new vehicle at risk when we know we could wait three years, buy it for half that, and build it the way we want for a total costing well less than new. Enthusiasts tend to put a lot of money into used car sellers hands and the coffers of aftermarket companies but not so much into the pockets of the original supplier. Ford is taking a shot with the Bronco but Ford is also big enough to absorb a hit if sales fall of a cliff after two or three years. Land Rover can't do the same. Now, having said that, in the big picture I'm on your side. I definitely think Land Rover could have done better with the Defender and still delivered a product that would have sold in large enough numbers to justify it's existence (heck, it remains to be seen if the new version does that or not) while still being more capable and a better platform for future mods. So much of the rear control arm/air spring cup hangs below the center line of the rear wheels it's ridiculous. Pictures don't convey the mass of the thing or how far towards the rear diff it extends. It's absolutely wide enough to take consistent damage. But then LR doesn't have a body on frame vehicle left to pull from to easily deploy a solid rear axle on so development cost probably would have killed it before it started if they had tried. Still, the Nissan Patrol/Armada uses an independent rear and in Patrol version at least it's as capable or more so with much less mass below the wheel center-line to get hung up on something. There's no doubt LR could have done more for the enthusiast while still retaining mass appeal. Unfortunately, the typical first owner of the Defender or any other new LR product is the guy who will never test the capabilities it comes with much less worry about upgrades in the future. It's a case of they could have done better for me and you but they didn't have to because their demographic isn't me and you.
@@davep2945 Well spoken and well reasoned - I can't argue with you at all. I understand the logic of why they went the way they did but I do think they missed a market opportunity. We all knew the original Defender had to be replaced; it was a tractor by today's standards. I toured around Scotland in a lightly mod'ed '16 model last summer and while I enjoyed it as a Rover nerd it's shortcomings were not lost on me. Had Rover gotten their act together on this 10 years earlier and targeted the Jeep JK Unlimited Rubicon in terms of off-road capability, upped the payload and towing to keep with the more utilitarian history of the Rover, priced it $10K over the Jeep, thrown some roof top tents and other 'overland' accessories on it and flogged a retro advertising campaign about being the "original overlander" I think they could have shifted a ton of them to the newly found US 'overland' market who don't really wheel but like to look like they do. In the process they would have kept that halo vehicle that's so important in protecting the corporate image that helps set them apart from any other luxury SUV. It would also give the 2nd or 3rd enthusiast owners a platform to build on that would also further the corporate image and help drive new sales - look at the love the yellow D90 in this video garnered then remember it's a mod'ed truck built by an enthusiast. Then the Disco5 could have been positioned into the slot the current Defender2 fills. The traditional 3-car range of Utility-Defender, Luxury-Range Rover, and the tweener-Discovery would have been maintained. As it is they have a lot of basically the same vehicle with different styling at this point and I feel they're slicing that pie too thin and only robbing themselves of sales with the current strategy.
You guys be writing full blown essays 😂
Love the way this defender looks
It's nice video.
I am the first new defender owner in Korea.
I am making off-road and camping videos. I think new defender is a great car!
Guys, a suggestion.
Why not, after you’ve given the TFL scores at the end of the video, show a leader board with the other vehicles you’ve tested. That would be a good ‘Look See’ to show where the vehicle sits in your ranking.
Great video BTW. 👏👏👏
#LoveDefender
It looks this has been the most relaxing Ike Andre has ever drive! Excellent video!
How appropriate, a Land Rover towing a Mercedes Benz,....as it should be!
That silliness aside,...this new Defender seems to be 'growing on me',...it's a good looking vehicle,..I do like that it has an in-line six too.
What a shame that Land Rover doesn't offer a brake controller!
You guys need a travel trailer for your towing tests. Many have a lot of tongue weight and they are tall and wide, which adds wind resistance. I'd love to see what the Defender would do with a 6000 lb travel trailer.
Same here... considering a Defender 110 to tow out 6000# TT 3 or 4 times per year,... would love to see the results.
Thank you for the real world usage vids you guys do. Whatever my next rig towing around 6,000 lbs is a requirement. I like seeing how they actually perform, not just hearing TH-camrs spat off some marketing BS from the manufacturer, which I can read myself. You guys rock. Btw Andre, you looked pretty chill towing that. That says a lot.
Amazed at the towing capacity compared to that brand new full size Chevy off road you tested
Ye in the UK land rovers were used and still are used for work hence the large capacities.
@@beaviccoon470 I think they are amazing working vehicles even though its a luxury suv I think it can also do heavy/ dirty work.
Love the new Defender. A utilitarian look, but modern. It has character and stands out from the crowd. LR always been great tow vehicles. Great off road ability with comfort, features, safety & tech. It’s a winner. Well done LR. Fantastic achievement. And yes. I hope they do build a pick up version.
Awesome video and a great SUV. One of my customers just took delivery if theirs and its pretty amazing!
I love this guys voice, I bet you do a hell of an Arnold impression.
Kudos to Land Rover for making a production vehicle look like a concept vehicle.
Great video. I'm a long time Land Rover fan, and owner. I really wanted to jump into the new Defender as a daily driver, but the heavy reliance on fairly untested technology had me a bit skeptical, so I opted for a 2020 LC Heritage. Keep hunting the good, One Life, Live It.
Great vehicle choice one HELL of a reliable SUV.
You’re LC will outlive us all
I love the look of the new defender
Andre's accent is so fascinating.
You can definitely tell it's still there even though it is now so so light (it's gotten a lot lighter over the years)
The fascinating thing is when I listen to his individual words it's hard to pick out the specific pronunciation ticks that make up his accent
Amazing, I LIKE THIS👍👍
Pickup truck idea would be super ideal plus it would take off overseas not so much Europe but in the Middle East and of course Australia
A pickup truck would sell very well in Europe. Most people who do any agricultural work would buy em up like hot cakes
Unfortunately LR have given up completely on the utility market and will never have a pickup version of this model, due to it having an alloy monocoque construction. They will have a very premium price van version of both the 110 and 90 available by mid 2021. The 90 will even be available with coil springs rather than air suspension.
Pickup trucks sell like hot cakes in the UK to farmers, land based industries, construction, veterinary, engineering and utility companies. They are everywhere. Mostly four cylinder diesel with double cabs, around 135" wheelbase and with just over 1 ton payload capacity and 7700lbs legal towing capability. There is a new kid on the block, coming soon, the Ineos Grenadier, which will be a French built old-Defender lookalike. Have a look at this video….
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I think it looks better in person than it does on video.
It would want to 😂😂😂
I 100 percent agree. I thought these were hideous and embarrassing when I first saw it online. A couple of weeks later I saw one driving through an intersection and thought it was breathtaking.
These things have a presence about them. They have a tank look to them that makes them look sturdy as hell too.
Scott Watkins This is true!
I test drove one recently and it looks great, drives great, has great get up and go and all reasonable amenities. Loved it.
That straight-six is sweet: strong, smooth, sounds great and economical! If it proves reliable for the longhair, that's going to be a great luxury SUV for the right customer!
The Inline 6 motor really is sweet, I work for LR and it's a great replacement to the old 3.0L Supercharged V6
@@photilal1960 That's awesome, I've always been a fan of LR, they make some super nice and extremely capable vehicles. Thanks for the info.
That jump cut at 9:46, one second driving up hill, next scene "I'm in the back seat" I thought you went into auto pilot mode while towing up the gauntlet ..
Good review. Way better that usual walk around and brochure regurgitation particularly on engine performance. Better than the freekin Nurburgring type thing you offer get.
I purchased a Defender P400 SE in July off the lot. Love it. The only thing that would make me trade it in would be if the 2021s bring the diesel to the US. This is a great video, but funny to see how TFL is really making use of this loaner.
This is not a legend....more of a Legend!
The one made before this was the Legend!
Looks great up close.
I think you gave this a very fair review. I was really skeptical at first. However, wow, the Defender is a tough machine. All they have to do is fix some minor issues (mirror, trailer controller) and add a tow haul mode and it would be almost perfect.
Love the look!
Tow/haul mode is there. It is automatically engaged when the trailer electrical socket is attached. No fuss. No signal to the driver. It just gets on with driving. The engine/transmission mapping is changed to suit towing though. So maybe a bonus point for this rather than a deduction.
love it!!! i picked mine up last week. sweeeet!!
When you give us a final score on the Ike, it would be great if you could put up a quick graphic showing how the score compares to other similar vehicles you have tested. It would give much better meaning to the score.
What's really the most important thing is how stable the vehicle/trailer combination is so it's not starting to self-oscillate.
That's what's causing the worst accidents.
I can somewhat understand that you miss a brake controller, but on the European market it's a lot more common to have surge brakes on the trailer instead.
Yep European market 100% use over-run brakes, we don't even know how a brake controller works 🤷♂️
@@jakethesnake1976 and they clearly havent heard of anti snake...
@@richardoakley8800 no alko atc hitch for them
@@richardoakley8800 No, having learnt to drive properly I'd be in the correct gear prior to descent.
In the UK and EU in general we tend to use over-run trailer braking systems as they are self balancing and entirely passive.
That would have changed the downhill performance for sure.
I don't like the European braking system tough. They always brake even when the vehicle is engine braking. Whilst not a problem in flat areas, I live in the Austrian Alps and here this is a problem, because on long downhill stretches, the trailer brakes tend to overheat. I'd rather prefer having those American electric brake systems.
All of the Uhaul rental trailers in USA use over run brakes. I think the trailers other issues but they’re so horrible somehow they manage to be dangerous
@@Reisperbachtal
The electric brakes are great when they are working but look out when they go wrong. That is why they aren't allowed in Europe.
Very old Land Rovers had coupled hydraulic brakes and could tow 4000kg!
I can't get over the feeling that this and other Land Rovers are designed to make you fall in love, and they're built to break your heart.
ktpinnacle 😂 EXACTLY!! 😞🤨
I've always wanted one. My experience with a XC70 makes my bank account scream NO!
If you own them for a certain period of time they’re really not bad. I’ve had 3 land rovers with 80k+ miles and sold them before 120k. They were among the cheapest cars to keep on the road that I’ve owned.
Just be sure you buy one that’s been well maintained, they are temperamental and will not do well with deferred maintenance. Some cars you can skip maintenance things without much protest, land rovers require all the regular maintenance, so deferred maintenance by previous owners means you’ll get stuck paying for it.
We replaced our last one with a Honda Odyssey and it’s been by far the most expensive vehicle I’ve ever owned. Double the maintenance costs of any Land Rover, BMW, Mercedes, or Domestic vehicle I’ve owned.
daniel mich If that cost double the maintenance then you my friend have been screwed lmao current mechanic here
before ford bought them.. like the yellow one it was a beast... today they just drink your wallet dry...
Nice review Andre. :) This LRD is really special. LRD's are what pushed me over the edge to buy my 4 Runner TRD Off-Road. Obviously not in the same price range. And there are significant differences in luxury, tech. etc. However, for the purpose of a well rounded capable machine with modern day 4WD tech. it was a close match. And of course, the history on reliability/affordability favored the 4Runner. All that being said, you make me want this LRD. lol Someday perhaps when the lottery pays me off. :)
Great video. I too love that straight 6 turbocharged engine. On a side note, I liked seeing the TFL Trail Boss in the background. My guess is that it was running "interference' on the way down. Lastly, the new Ike Gauntlet shirt that Andre is wearing is slick. Definitely gonna get me one.
Interference, and the video chase vehicle.
a lot of times the manufacturer rating for towing and payload is directly proportional to the standard tires that come on the vehicle because some tires can't take the load .
Towing a Mercedes! Nice. 🍀
I like it!
HA ! I thought the ML was gone and history by now. Haven't seen or hear anything about it after it was bought and brought to TFL headquarters not long ago.
Hey... The Tayota guy knows the word oomph!!! 😂
Is it just me or does the new Land Rover look like a bigger Kia Soul?
yes, i saw it in real life and thought KIA had a crossover version of the Soul, until i took a second look...
To me it looks like a Honda Element.
I can't unsee it now. Thanks a lot.
@@taitai907 LoL, your welcome....I guess? Or should I apologize?
I almost commented that myself til I saw yours, LOL.
Looks like the Kia Soul's big brother...
You aced it, damn
I don’t see the k-Soul but I do see Honda Element , but I’d still buy one 🤣. Don’t worry it’s called marketing and pacing the grand design to come and I think the defender will eventually have the front fascia from the original one and it will be nice.
Ha ha ha such boomer joke
Rough road !, come to aus especially queensland
Best defender ever and i have had a few
Super impressive, especially for an SUV
Hey! Great review! we got a 2020 Defender. What Gen-Y hitch did you purchase?? Thanks!!!
You guys should try the Bluetooth CURT Trailer Brake controller. Love it since it works with any 7 pin / any vehicle. I don't have to buy a remote unit for each vehicle or trailer
Wow, a brand new Land Rover bronco, funny how that works
cant understand why people hating on this car. its as good as old one at offroad, Hauls better than competition, equipment is good, price is fair... what could more people want?
ohh i know... they expecting land rover to somehow escape from regulations and remake the old defender. So they can still complain about reliabliity even thought they never even seen one... cant make everybody happy right?
Because rovers are junk in the master mechanic field. They are made poorly and poorly reviewed all over. I say this because I worked on them before working at lexus.
Exactly. You are spot on. 👍👍
Good review! You should put an extra ballast inside the "Defender" to simulate the full load of the vehicle. The fuel consumption would be even worse! Thanks for the review!
That's for sure! Great team!
Not really. The reason is that's the all up load capacity. If you ballast the vehicle, then you have to reduce the weight of what's being towed to stay within the legal limits. Carrying stuff inside the vehicle is more efficient than loading up a trailer with a bigger vehicle.
@@TheEulerID Maximum vehicle and trailer combination (GTW) (lbs) 14,810 for new Defender, there is enough space for loading up the vehicle by itself.
I'm not an outdoorsy type at all so I'd never need this. However, I really like how durable the interior design and materials are. I personally would have preferred the 5.0 V8 over that new boosted I6 but I know V8s are on the way out. We have a 2011 Jaguar XJ that has been an absolute tank---ten years and not a stitch or fiber or hide out of place; the wood and leather and interior bits are just the highest quality I've ever owned. The V8 and ZF trans still just going along like "no big deal man". I hope the Ingenium engines hold up as well. Oh and I've driven that exact road several times when we do family trips to Breck! The brakes on my wife's Enclave howl in protest the whole way down!! :-)
LR are currently testing Defender with the Supercharged 5.0 litre V8. This version will b released late 2021. Ur XJ Jaguar would b a fantastic vehicle. 👍👍
I think it would compete against a land cruiser or gx460. 3 row premium suvs. The land cruiser is more money but you could option the defender up to that price and they both have similar power and towing. Similar size too... It's actually bigger than the current land cruiser
They stopped making the legendary land rover defenders, that's just another suv.
Try it, u will be surprised.
Facts
Pity you didn't try it with mechanical /hydraulic overrun braking trailer. I suspect the performance under braking would be greatly improved.
this land rover honestly looks promising, hope it really is reliable
Probably not reliable. I wish, but probably not.
Reliability comes from an ethos, not a stylist. Sorry.
Reliable that's not how us Brits role 😂
Landrover have been developing this car for years, they put a lot of work into it, so if any JLR product is going to be reliable, it will be this one.
Moss, good joke. JLR has been making crap for years, it’s in their blood.
If you guys still have the toureg I would love to see you guys do an IKE tow test with that! I am a vw fan, I have an 09 rabbit that I "made" a hitch for and tow way to much with it but it tows like a champ! So let's see what an old toureg will do!!
We can only tow 3.5ton in England legally with the new defender.
Ye legally but you can tow more illegally 😂😂😂
@thefastlanetrucks What tow package is that? I bought a Defender and it doesn't have the tow package so I have to add one. The ones from Land Rover are either swan neck or a large adjustable version. I like your simple square opening for a classic hitch to slide into. Is that from LR or did you have it added after market?
Nice review. Toyota Land Cruiser I believe also tows over 8100 pounds.
Gobs of power!!!
Surprised it would gain so much speed on the downhill! Being a mild hybrid you’d think the electric motor could do a little more to help out with some engine braking in tow mode and regen a bit
Its going to sell like hot cake so long as it's free from faults the styling is spot on and performance is idea
Ironic that the vehicle being towed ISN’T the Land Rover. It’s only a matter of time before that thing is on the trailer.
Exactly
Damn new defender in the sliver looks a lot like an older discovery at a glance.
Proudly made in the West Midlands, England. All round great vehicles.... thanks for the video :) VTID
You are most welcome but we thought they are built in Slovakia?
@@TFLtruck :( who knows where, when or how any vehicle is built?, so many shipped components travelling the world ATM. Still they have their HQ in Coventry (BOOOO!!!! - it's a local rivalry British thing) and re owned by the Indian TATA company that still use the "Jaguar-Land Rover Company". Personally I preferred the older long wheelbase Defender mark II, an possibly mark III, this was originally mark IV until they 're-found' the US market and renamed it Discovery. :D love the channel. peace.
@@TFLtruck - yes you are correct, the Nitra plant. Completely modern, state of the art plant.... unlike the ones in England.
So to adjust the hvac you have to take your eyes off the road and fiddle with the knob a number times?
"This is the legendary Land Rover Defender"... No, you're wrong! :-)
The legendary Land Rover Defender was made until 2016.
No, 90 and 110 ended in 1990
This is nothing like a true Defender, this is a totally different vehicle with the same name, good power from the motor though!
@@DuBstep115 90, 110 and 130 Land Rovers were made until 2016, same basic vehicle as introduced in 1983 just a name change.
@@DuBstep115 Only the name was changed due to the launch of the brand new Discovery at that time.
@@clooperman3745
Yes indeed.
I like the car but can't afford it.
Did you do the cabin noise test also?
I think he did well... That engine it's a strong one.
They always say the ike gauntlet is the world's toughest tow test. I disagree w/that statement. The worlds toughest tow test is going up to Pikes Peak. The constant slowing down and turning and accelerating is what makes the tow vehicle work. Not to mention that your climbing to 14k ft elevation. The ike gauntlet is a straight highway where your not doing a constant stop and go. Less wear and tear.
The only thing that people are interested in is if the new Defender can drive across Africa without breaking down like how it's predecessor did for decades. That's the one thing that true off-roaders are looking for in a 4x4
Can you guys post the unedited versions of the IKE for the last three vehicles that you have ran? It’s nice to see how the vehicles do on the hill, besides just stating the time and mpg.
That’s a really good sounding straight 6. Not sure that I like the mandatory mild hybrid system though as they are stupid expensive to fix. Design wise, I feel like the Defender needs to look more like a Mercedez G-wagon. It just looks too plasticky or toy like to carry such a legendary name as Defender.
What is the model number of the RF controller you used and where did you purchase it?
The Defender is larger than the LR4 was but it looks so squatty in person and the third row doesn’t offer remotely as much room as the old LR4. I really had wanted to like the new defender and maybe replace my LR4 with one, but when you equip a Defender 110 with all of the features and options you want it’s over $80K! That’s a lot more than I ever expected the Defender to cost and it doesn’t have the same boxy charm that defined older Land Rover models up to the LR4.
You can only tow a maximum of 3,500 kgs in Europe with such vehicles without going in to tachograph commercial regulations.
What was the tongue weight you applied in the test configuration?
Never seen or heard of brake controller in the UK - trailers in Europe usually look after there own brakes!
Ye they just have the electricity cable and the brake cable thingy that you put around the towbar and it sorts itself out.
I like the design. It is a highly creative and complex form, it looks great, is unmistakable as a Land Rover, but also seems to have skipped the corporate destyling that seems to bland down any concept car after it leaves the industrial design and styling folks.
3:57 how did you installed the hitch to the car?
Old style LR pick up not for the new looks would look even more funky than the cyber truck thing that tesla released
There are rumours going around about that there may be a pickup version of the defender 130 platform. They did originally say that they weren't going to do it but new boss and a lot of demand for pickups may have changed that. Unfortunately for you US guys it might not get sold where you are but fingers crossed.
good land rover
you don´t sell the ML W163 ?
Funny how an 18 wheeler can get 5-6(US)mpg at 80,000lbs but this, 3.8mpg. Gasoline engines are hopeless in big 4x4s. But domestic diesels are just not popular in US it seems
Try the downhill test with the cruise control set. I have the Aussie Ford Everest (wagon based on the Ranger) and the downhill logic is better with cruise on, and it automatically brakes to maintain speed.
And I always tow in sports mode, unless on the highway/freeway and it relatively flat.
Actually new Mercedes GLS 450, has similar engine and price tag. BMW X5 would also fit with on-road performance. It's even slightly cheaper than Defender.
one little pin holding the ball coupling in REALLY!!!!!!! we use TWO M16 bolts in the UK
This new kia soul is very nice!
Great looking car. Not a replacement for the old Defender more successor to the MK1 RangeRover, it's never going to be hauling fence posts to top padock or towing Artillery prices but that's problebly right thing for the business and will sell a crap ton and Ok want one very bad.
Could you do this test with the 4runner trd pro? unless you have already done it and I just can't find it online
The 4Runner is only rated for 5,000 lbs.
@@dadventuretv2538 Right so then only tow to 5000. I'm talking about doing an ike for the 4runner. not specifically with the merc and this trailer.
The reason there is no brake controller is because we don’t use them in Europe or the UK. We use mechanically braked trailers - electronic brakes on trailers are not legal here (there is nowhere to buy them here).
You sound like The Terminators' cousin :
"by sthe way.. I love my car"
The worlds greatest challenge of towing and capabilities of the tow vehicle #ikeguantlet
I wish things like the 4Runner and Bronco or other offroaders that aren't giant boats would tow as much as this thing! I know there are compromises but having the option would be amazing! Most SUVs in other markets like Australia tow more than 5k lbs so why can't we have that in the US. Plenty of folks would use it and seem to go over the weight rating anyways...Manufacturers, just make them rated for more so we are safer!
It appears the structure of the vehicle is the primary factor driving the tow rating as the P300 (4-cylinder) max row rating is 7,700 lbs versus 8,200 for the straight six. Let's see a max tow test in the P300 Defender.
We don’t have brake controllers in UK or Europe. The brakes are activated by the tow hitch
I have been having a hard time with exactly how big this Defender 110 is. Here are the measurements compared to the Lincoln Aviator.
Defender: Wheelbase 110: 3,022 mm (119.0 in); Width 2,008 mm (79.1 in); Length 5,018 mm (197.6 in); Height 110: 1,967 mm (77.4 in)
Aviator: Wheelbase 3,025 mm (119.1 in); Width 2,022 mm (79.6 in); Length 5,062 mm (199.3 in); Height 1,768 mm (69.6 in)
I hope this helps other people.
It might be a bit strange but i'd like to see the Subaru Ascent tow 5000lbs up the gauntlet. that's a good amount of weight for the 2.4l to pull up the grade. my coworkers wife got one for towing the boat, and he said it pulled beautifully, and he usually tows with his suburban
So no weight distribution hitch or anti sway system needed? I will be towing a 22 foot 4500lb trailer with mine.