I haven't put as many miles on the King Quad as I did our Long Term Grizzly a couple years ago. In late OCtober, when all the tourists are gone and the Paiute Trail is empty and snowed in at the top I would have fun making timed runs through the hardback turned mud, turned ice, turned snow to the top of one particular 12 mile mountain trail. The Grizzly was an absolute blast. The body lean takes a little getting used to, but with a good set of radials it takes a great set in the sweepers.
I have been rebuilding my quad after many miles and a lot of issues. since i posted, i havnt ridden due to a cracked frame. fixed that, rebuilt everything. i put the rear back together without the sway bar and it does have a very different feel to it. but i havnt been able to test it out just yet, parts on the way. ive noticed how much higher it sits, i cant wait to ride again. thanks for the advice, good to hear it works well cant wait to see how well it handles rough trails and straightaways.
i really cant put it to words on how much more i like the handling without it. since i often find myself in the woods and swamps of louisiana, the extra travel, height and traction make riding in these harsh conditions easy. when i hit a sharp turn it picks a wheel off the ground until i straighten it out. thank you for the help.
You are right! Unfortunately when I did this video we were in the middle of a cold spell and snow storm ;-) I believe we mentioned removing the sway bars on our 550 and 850 Tourings in either a separate or the long term wrap ups. Huge improvement there as well. Just give yourself a ride or two to get used to the additional flex.
Thank you for showing some of the pros and cons of this mod. I've been thinking about doing this on my 2011 Polaris 850XP X2. I use it mostly for trail riding and sandy river bottom riding. Only thing that could've made the video better would be to show some video of the actual riding characteristics with and without the sway bar. Overall great job!
I have a 700 Prairie and I don't find the Mcpherson struts to be any problem. In fact, I actually like them better than adjustable A-arms because they are beefier and simpler. And since I'm only 150 lbs, I don't really need much adjustability up front. I pack a tripod and a heavy gun case on the front rack all the time and have never felt like the front of the machine rides much different. Maybe I just love my machine so much that I overlook things others complain about!!
When a differential is locked, the power is applied evenly to both front wheels. Unlocked the power will go to the wheel with less traction. Hence the value of a lockable differential in difficult terrain.
I couldnt agree more. My Brute Force 650i is very simular to the Suzuki KQ. Tires on it were awful. 1 lap around my tiny back yard when I 1st brought it home and I headed back to my dealer for a full set of MST's. First real ride with anti-sway on, then disconected it to try it out. I then couldnt get it removed fast enough. Far superior trail handeling without the sway bar and I havent looked back since. But I have thought about going back to SRA a zillion times. I miss it.
im liking your channel so far. just getting back into ATV riding and got a 2011 Honda recon that was only used to go to the mail box and back buy a guys wife. its like new for $2400.
So what happens without the sway bar on a Kingquad 750 at high speed? I have one and could use the suspension travel since i ride over logs, and rough terrain were long travel would be perfect. then again i have trails where i can go fast, fast as i wanna go. so would that sway bar delete make it more wobbly or typsy at high speeds? i understand how it would effect power sliding, and high speed turns but straight line or slightly curved speed runs i wouldnt know. hope you have some info
I have a 2012 Sportsman 500 and I've been thinking of removing the anti-sway bar in that. I like tight and twisty trails with technical terrain and I'd benefit from more articulation but I also want to get rid of a nagging noise. Though I have not had any breakdown issues, the Sportsmans have some badly designed elements prone to wear. One of those elements is the square type anti-sway bar link arm. It wears quickly and rattles even after tightening, it keeps wearing and rattling. It's very annoying. I think the removal of the anti-sway bar and it's components would beneficial to most people.
Where I ride mainly flat river the trails are very off camber washed out with and some have some rocks and stuff without the sway bar will by atv tip over easier in that situation
I guess you could compare where you ride to some of our adventure videos. Removing the sway bar increases the flexibility of the suspension and therefore handling. The ATV will flex more, lean more, and could be easier to turn over if not ridden with caution. We like the added flexibility. Like so many things it's a trade-off.
No. Although it will allow for more freer movement of the suspension it cannot travel any further because of the stops so it will cause no extra wear or damage to the suspension.
My arctic cat is set up with no swaybar and I have the black diamond xtrs and offset wheels corners as good or better at speed than the rest in our group absolutley rocks in the 4 low situations you should do a suspension set up video Ive found rear 2 -3 clicks from soft and front full soft works for my machine I bet most have there set ups wrong.
I own two kingquads 09 400fs with over 8000 km and never had any problems that i use to plow snow with a 4' plow and a 2012 camo 500 axi with power steering. I absolutely love this bike. I have ridin other competition and in my opinion there is nothing like it. I guess other bikes have there benefits but Suzuki hit the spot with a all around better bike. -I put on a offset wheel for better stability and you do get a little more articulation -26'' maxxiss bighorn the best tire long lasting and very comfortable (not a mud tire) -currently doing a 1mm shim mod on the primary to get a little more low end torque and going to run a dayco xtx belt -my question to you is the sway bar removal is it worth it? I don't do alot of high speeds but i do like to get loose one in a while -Is there any long term wear or damage done by doing this? -does the sway bar add strength to the rear end? Thank you northern ontario kingquads
For me it is very much worth it for the improved articulation abad comfort. Of course there are drawbacks - like needing to be more careful in off-camber stuff and high-speed slides but you just need to be aware. For me I find the machine lays over a bit more and the outside tire has far more traction in normal cornering. You can feel it bite. I don't like really off-camber stuff anyway so I'm always overly careful ;-) It's a very easy thing to disconnect to try. I suggest you give a good ride though to become used to it.
my trails are very skinny and made for dirtbikes with lots of whoop sections and rocks and train track crossing also a huge sand pit im not really a drifter because of past experiences (snapped a frame) im on a sportsman 300 idk what i should do because the sway bark is broken right know and i dont have the money for the part should i just remove it until i get the part
Hey you guys have some great videos, i have seen your adventure videos were you come to moab and visit the piaute trial. There very intersting and fun to wach. Greetings from Salt Lake city utah
I never have but it's worth a try. It's easy to do and if you don't like it, it's easy to put back on. I believe that the added articulation and comfort will be worth it...
I did mine on my 400 griz.butt I have carlisle all trail tires ..kinda flat wide tread ..I love it now . real soft ride...will not be hooking it back up....
I haven't put as many miles on the King Quad as I did our Long Term Grizzly a couple years ago. In late OCtober, when all the tourists are gone and the Paiute Trail is empty and snowed in at the top I would have fun making timed runs through the hardback turned mud, turned ice, turned snow to the top of one particular 12 mile mountain trail. The Grizzly was an absolute blast. The body lean takes a little getting used to, but with a good set of radials it takes a great set in the sweepers.
I have been rebuilding my quad after many miles and a lot of issues. since i posted, i havnt ridden due to a cracked frame. fixed that, rebuilt everything. i put the rear back together without the sway bar and it does have a very different feel to it. but i havnt been able to test it out just yet, parts on the way. ive noticed how much higher it sits, i cant wait to ride again. thanks for the advice, good to hear it works well cant wait to see how well it handles rough trails and straightaways.
i really cant put it to words on how much more i like the handling without it. since i often find myself in the woods and swamps of louisiana, the extra travel, height and traction make riding in these harsh conditions easy. when i hit a sharp turn it picks a wheel off the ground until i straighten it out. thank you for the help.
You are right! Unfortunately when I did this video we were in the middle of a cold spell and snow storm ;-) I believe we mentioned removing the sway bars on our 550 and 850 Tourings in either a separate or the long term wrap ups. Huge improvement there as well. Just give yourself a ride or two to get used to the additional flex.
Thanks for the info.. I appreciate you responding to my questions..
Yes indeed, i have 05 polaris sportsman 600 twin. Im planning on giong to the piaute trail this summer for the first time, hope everything goes well.
Thank you for showing some of the pros and cons of this mod. I've been thinking about doing this on my 2011 Polaris 850XP X2. I use it mostly for trail riding and sandy river bottom riding. Only thing that could've made the video better would be to show some video of the actual riding characteristics with and without the sway bar. Overall great job!
I have a 700 Prairie and I don't find the Mcpherson struts to be any problem. In fact, I actually like them better than adjustable A-arms because they are beefier and simpler. And since I'm only 150 lbs, I don't really need much adjustability up front. I pack a tripod and a heavy gun case on the front rack all the time and have never felt like the front of the machine rides much different. Maybe I just love my machine so much that I overlook things others complain about!!
When a differential is locked, the power is applied evenly to both front wheels. Unlocked the power will go to the wheel with less traction. Hence the value of a lockable differential in difficult terrain.
Great videos you guys have, i like your atv reviews and adventures the best. Greetings from salt lake city , utah :]
I couldnt agree more. My Brute Force 650i is very simular to the Suzuki KQ. Tires on it were awful. 1 lap around my tiny back yard when I 1st brought it home and I headed back to my dealer for a full set of MST's. First real ride with anti-sway on, then disconected it to try it out. I then couldnt get it removed fast enough. Far superior trail handeling without the sway bar and I havent looked back since. But I have thought about going back to SRA a zillion times. I miss it.
Glad to be of help.
Thanks! Glad you like them. I see character in your concern for making sure your comment was correct. Kind of a rarity nowadays ;-)
Me too! I love(d) the Prairie 650 and 700 but always wished that machine had a-arms up front. It could have been the 'perfect' ATV!
We did it do both our 550 and our 850s during our long term testing.
im liking your channel so far. just getting back into ATV riding and got a 2011 Honda recon that was only used to go to the mail box and back buy a guys wife. its like new for $2400.
Is power always split evenly between the two wheels in an Open Differential or a Locked Differential?
So what happens without the sway bar on a Kingquad 750 at high speed? I have one and could use the suspension travel since i ride over logs, and rough terrain were long travel would be perfect. then again i have trails where i can go fast, fast as i wanna go. so would that sway bar delete make it more wobbly or typsy at high speeds? i understand how it would effect power sliding, and high speed turns but straight line or slightly curved speed runs i wouldnt know. hope you have some info
I have a 2012 Sportsman 500 and I've been thinking of removing the anti-sway bar in that. I like tight and twisty trails with technical terrain and I'd benefit from more articulation but I also want to get rid of a nagging noise. Though I have not had any breakdown issues, the Sportsmans have some badly designed elements prone to wear. One of those elements is the square type anti-sway bar link arm. It wears quickly and rattles even after tightening, it keeps wearing and rattling. It's very annoying. I think the removal of the anti-sway bar and it's components would beneficial to most people.
Where I ride mainly flat river the trails are very off camber washed out with and some have some rocks and stuff without the sway bar will by atv tip over easier in that situation
I guess you could compare where you ride to some of our adventure videos. Removing the sway bar increases the flexibility of the suspension and therefore handling. The ATV will flex more, lean more, and could be easier to turn over if not ridden with caution. We like the added flexibility. Like so many things it's a trade-off.
Can it put extra strain or do damage to the suspension without the sway bar.
No. Although it will allow for more freer movement of the suspension it cannot travel any further because of the stops so it will cause no extra wear or damage to the suspension.
My arctic cat is set up with no swaybar and I have the black diamond xtrs and offset wheels corners as good or better at speed than the rest in our group absolutley rocks in the 4 low situations you should do a suspension set up video Ive found rear 2 -3 clicks from soft and front full soft works for my machine I bet most have there set ups wrong.
I own two kingquads 09 400fs with over 8000 km and never had any problems that i use to plow snow with a 4' plow and a 2012 camo 500 axi with power steering. I absolutely love this bike. I have ridin other competition and in my opinion there is nothing like it. I guess other bikes have there benefits but Suzuki hit the spot with a all around better bike.
-I put on a offset wheel for better stability and you do get a little more articulation
-26'' maxxiss bighorn the best tire long lasting and very comfortable (not a mud tire)
-currently doing a 1mm shim mod on the primary to get a little more low end torque and going to run a dayco xtx belt
-my question to you is the sway bar removal is it worth it? I don't do alot of high speeds but i do like to get loose one in a while
-Is there any long term wear or damage done by doing this?
-does the sway bar add strength to the rear end?
Thank you
northern ontario kingquads
For me it is very much worth it for the improved articulation abad comfort. Of course there are drawbacks - like needing to be more careful in off-camber stuff and high-speed slides but you just need to be aware. For me I find the machine lays over a bit more and the outside tire has far more traction in normal cornering. You can feel it bite. I don't like really off-camber stuff anyway so I'm always overly careful ;-)
It's a very easy thing to disconnect to try. I suggest you give a good ride though to become used to it.
my trails are very skinny and made for dirtbikes with lots of whoop sections and rocks and train track crossing also a huge sand pit im not really a drifter because of past experiences (snapped a frame) im on a sportsman 300 idk what i should do because the sway bark is broken right know and i dont have the money for the part should i just remove it until i get the part
+snakeairsoft leger I suppose that's the best idea. Just be careful without it in place.
Hey you guys have some great videos, i have seen your adventure videos were you come to moab and visit the piaute trial. There very intersting and fun to wach. Greetings from Salt Lake city utah
hi ..would you recommend removing the sway bars on a ranger 400? Thank you.
I never have but it's worth a try. It's easy to do and if you don't like it, it's easy to put back on. I believe that the added articulation and comfort will be worth it...
I did mine on my 400 griz.butt I have carlisle all trail tires ..kinda flat wide tread ..I love it now . real soft ride...will not be hooking it back up....
No problem . . .
Thanks for the info
That would certainly be more fun for me ;-)
They sure look good but I've never tested them on anything....
Your next video should be of you ridding it!
I'm not really sure to be truthful. My personal life does not allow for any travel at this time....But maybe in the future.
*watch*