Is Narayana Murthy right in asking youngsters to work 70 hours a week?| The Hindu
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- Should youngsters throw themselves at work and notch up 70 or more hours every week? An IT industry icon, Infosys co-founder NR Narayana Murthy, certainly seems to favour the idea.
In China, the controversial 996 culture is prevalent, endorsed by the likes of Alibaba founder Jack Ma. In 2019, he said that if we love our jobs, 996 is not a problem. If you don’t, then every minute is a torture. He was referring to the work culture of 12-hour workdays - or 9 am to 9 pm, 6 days a week; which comes to 72 hours per week.
A CNN article from the time quotes him as saying: “The real 996 is not simply overtime work.” He is further reported to have said that everyone had the right to choose their own lifestyle but those who work shorter hours “won’t taste the happiness and rewards of hard work.”
There has been mixed response to Mr Murthy's comment. Some have questioned the wisdom in this while others, such as Ola’s Bhavish Aggarwal said he’d agree with Mr. Murthy. JSW Group’s Sajjan Jindal too said he agreed with Murthy. “It’s not about burnout; it’s about dedication.” He also points out that a 5-day work week culture is not what a rapidly-developing nation such as India needs.
But does logging in all those extra hours benefit everyone? Maybe. Maybe not. How could working overtime impact your health?
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What India needs is not longer working hours, but smarter & more honest working processes.
Sir yes smart may be, but when it comes to honesty and caring for its citizens / employees.. Aren't all Asian countries miles behind western nations?
Agree.. intuitive too
@@evm6177 One of my former colleagues who was from Hongkong said that people used to compete to be the last to leave the office. It was also considered shameful to leave before the boss. That kind of work culture does not breed innovation and productivity. People will sham and pretend to be busy.
@@vncstudiostill china is far ahead of productive India.
@@mortisdeus Indeed.
They'll glorify hardwork, dedication and long working hours for the purpose of making profit. In a nutshell - "Glorified Exploitation".
This is by far most apt interpretation👏👍
Modern slavery
Who will compensate for the Karnataka election loss & Son- in-law election expenses?
Huh? Huh?
Be sensitive you people!
After World War Japan & Germany people sacrificed their families life.
Don't you want our cities to be like Europe?
Or do you want it to be like poor cities like Tehran & Havana? Have you seen those cities?
You black Indians why can't you sacrifice your life, health & savings, huh?
You lazy people...😒
Also wifey wants Segregation of Veg & NonVeg!
Please be more sensitive to feeling of poor Billionaires like Mohandas pai & Others 😞
Please... 🙏🏾
Seems like he started thinking no end of himself just because rushi sunak is his son in law
quit an start your own Infosys company hire people and make money , if possible
We should not take his advice so seriously because he wants to make profit at the expense of his employees' health
Agreed. But what choice do we have if the 996 model is imposed on us ?
Who will compensate for the Karnataka election loss & Son- in-law election expenses?
Huh? Huh? 😠
Be sensitive you people!
After World War Japan & Germany people sacrificed their family life.
Don't you want our cities to be like Europe?
Or do you want it to be like poor cities like Tehran & Havana? Have you seen those cities?
You black Indians why can't you sacrifice your life, health & savings, huh?
You lazy people...😒
Also wifey wants Segregation of Veg & NonVeg!
Please be more sensitive to feeling of poor Billionaires like Mohandas pai & Others 😞
Please... 🙏🏾
@@praveenmotamarristand up to them. We did not do it 200 years ago and were enslaved for 150 years...
Moorthy is a labour contractor, no respect for this guy...
Rightly said.
@@praveenmotamarri Agriculture Bill 😂😂😂😂 Don't forget that. Ask that 996 for Govt Employees 😂😂
We work to live, but not live to work.
If you are owner or founder of any company, then you can work 24 X 7 = 168 Hrs. a week. No issues. !
If you are worker of any company, 8 X 5 = 40 Hrs. a week, that's enough !
Completely agreeable
Completely Agree. Even I thought the same.
But he made billions in that process . Poor employees has to slog for 50k and pay lakhs to repair their health .
@@SM-vq1qd that's the hardest truth of Indian IT industry
True in an ideal world. In order to open your own buisness you need to have exposure to the industry and when you just work 8hrs in a company you are only doing your job nothing more so you cannot do anything beyond your job.
Overtime-related deaths, often referred to as "karoshi" in Japan, have been a concern for the country. While the term "karoshi" is used to describe deaths or health issues attributed to overwork...
Do we really need this in India?
No
Indian youths are not commodities...They want work life balance...But if someone is ready to work like that they should be paid accordingly...
Sure. But they should not complain that they cannot buy expensive cars. They must be satisfied with bicycles.
@@kotipillaif you're a workaholic with no family then just say so
@@sjjdhwhjw1257
Why work in first place enjoy with family
You work for money
If you say that no work to provide food for family then food is not expensive , or you can go to Village live a healthy life
@@kotipilla Nobody is complaining about expensive cars
@@kotipillaexpensive cars 😂
Long hours does not translate to productive work. Too much stress has so many side effects. If you are married, marital harmony is undermined.
He should instead ask for improving the quality of education in colleges in india and so that he doesn't have spent much on their training.
Training cannot be removed. It is practically not possible
Norway, Sweden and Finland work for 30 hours a week and are much happier.
Work culture in the US came around to recognizing the importance of work-life balance in the last decade. 1980s, 1990s - it wasthe same way in the US with devastating impact on health and family life. Good presentation.
Uncles mentality of paying penny less for best service.
Infosys is paying tax 18 percent, but working employees are paying 30 Percent tax,
8 hours every weekdays, anymore should go to overtime payment.
Wonderful video. Mr.murthy was doing a job that he liked. But most of us are in jobs that we don't like. 8 hrs itself is too much for unloved jobs.
Even if we love our job...we love other things to do...family is life. Health is life, sports is a life...what is the point of working 70 hrs a week for life long and then die
What we need from indian bosses is not over-committing to the customers.
Real intentions of those who back this 70h work week is well defined, over-committing.
TRUEEEEE
Work for more hours and pay 30 % of income tax with hard work money to Government which will give Freebies and roads with potholes and additional GST taxes everywhere from milk packet to oil prices.
You are not paying 30% tax for all the amount you receive. Be truthful.
@raju, can you please explain whether the taxes are being forced unreasonably to every common man no matter he's employee or self employed?
@@raju1950 some even needs to pay 42% (including all the surcharges)
@@raju1950 30% income tax + 30% GST on anything you consume, total 60%, average 50% of our income is going to Government.
Quality of work should be considered,even listening my class for 8 hours is hard
employees who find their job fun sometimes end up working long hours but this shouldn’t be enforced… in fact I think everyone should be encouraged to lead a balanced and productive life.
I agree with Mr. Murthy,
I work 84 hrs a week, and I don't feel stress. It's only possible because I love my job.
I think those who are against Mr. Murthy are "lazy employees" who does job only for money not for interest.
job should be done with interest, without interest every minute is stressful.
Please
@@chigingshah1824shooo away
@@chigingshah1824😂bro would you work for free ?
@@saviourofworld I never said "free",
I said work with "interest", if work is done by interest then work don't seem like an stressful activity. To get interested in work, a person should work on those things, place, etc where they find their job interest.
That was my point.
Infosys started a trend that ruined Bangalore.
Ruined all metros. Also damaged health of every corporate employee no matter whatever the industry. Infosys started most of the unnecessary practices I India. Some directly , rest passively.
@@ameya1559True.
@@ameya1559what are they ?? Just want to know. I heard TCS is worse
@train_xc if you really want to grow in career, try a good product based company no matter even a start up. All service based companies just squeeze your blood. N pay peanuts
@@ameya1559 I’ve been working in software industry for a decade. I worked in Pvt cos, govt & non profits but not in service companies. So I asked.
I work on a ship where the crew are, most of the times, expected to work even 20 hrs* on some days continuously while the overtime remains fixed. Nowadays, with more regulations in place, this is becoming less common, but it still happens.
People endure all this because of the salary one gets paid while onboard vs. comparing himself at a land based job, which would usually yield a fraction of that. And mind you, this lifestyle as a young mariner is bearable, but as they get to 40s, they start quitting and looking for shore opportunities.
Adding to this, there are lesser and lesser students choosing a life at sea, as people see the social isolation and unaccounted working hours/long employment contracts/multi cultural food a major deterrent.
The point is this...Salary is important, but at the end of the day, the body/mind is not designed to look at a screen for 12 hrs a day or work in high concentration environment for 15 hrs..
No animal works as hard for food and shelter than a human.
He wants employee to work to death.
His wife gives advise on work life balance and women empowerment.
His daughter was accused of attempt to enrich herself using her position in UK.
So who in his family should we listen to or look up to ?
Sir,
Work-life balance is important, otherwise, it could be dangerous. More importantly, whether you are enjoying your work or not. Thirdly, every individual has his capacity, one can work for 12 hours without a problem but another can not. Lastly, stress can cause a permanent problem for an individual, therefore, companies can give freedom to their employees to choose working hours according to their capacity.
But practically no company can give such choice left to employees.. many reasons involved tgat can't be another discussion here.. but yes there should be a neutral n universally matching in terms of working hours n productivity
Its not just Indian tech companies, but also branches of US-based companies in India operate in the same “indian work ethics”
I work in the US and have a colleague in Bangalore who does not leave office before 10pm.
As civil engineers, we work 80 hours a week, nobody is there to question this
And after showing all that dedication of working 70 hours a week if management changes or lose project to some other vendor upon renewal the company fires you with just 1 month notice...😂 what a bull**t statement from such a senior person
Most of the employees in banks are working for 12 hours per day.. For sales employee it's a daily routine.. From 9am to 9 pm... Otherthan this I think already 60-70 percent employees are working more than 70 hours a week.
My appeal to this generation don't follow Narayana Murthy. Put the priority on health and family. I worked more than 70 hours a week. It was okay till you are 30years, at 35years i got lifestyle disease called diabetes and suffered major health crisis at 48years almost died twice once due to covid, and due to 100% block in arteries in the leg for working long hours sitting at the desk, fortunately not heart. Now at the age of 50 years. I cannot sit for 3hours continuously. I cannot walk for more than 50meters because my leg muscles tighten up, however if i continue to walk further then i suffer terrible painful leg cramps at night.
Totally agreeable
Workers exploitation already exists in our country. What more does he require? Their health and quality time with family matters.
No way...8 hours a day is more than enough, like we did. After all we are humans and not AI or robots.
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Will Murthy take responsibility of a employee life if he gets any health issue.
9hrs work per day 9am - 6pm
5day work per week.
2day week off Sat & Sunday.
Youngsters, bachelors between 18-28 yrs can work for 12hrs per day provided with 2meals & 2 refreshments with Quarters facility or HRA & OT payments for those working even on holidays.
If wealth is lost something is lost. If health is lost everything is lost.
It's not about time spent in doing something.....its about the quality of what you do....fatigue erodes quality..hence a 70 hour week would eventually be counterproductive.
By increasing working hours, we would be cutting down employment opportunities for many youth passing out of universities. In an overpopulated country we got to create employment opportunities for the masses.
Very valuable point raised, I see nobody touched this aspect , that I read tge comments until now
Combining Economics with Biological aspect is interesting, in future i would to have similar types of combos. (Eco + Geo, Eco + Poli like that)
Explained terms in common man terms are good. In future, more videos covering economic impacts in common man life would be useful.❤
Companies not paying proper salaries for 7 hours, but need 70 hours work.
He must pass on this advice to his son in law's cricket team
He has become aged so he is telling like this mad talks, youngsters don't have life? Are they robots made to just work?
During our residence program after MBBS, we were in wards with patient's from 07.30 am till 11.00 pm, without complaints No one bothered if someone rise a voice. Now even after 40 yrs we don't waver in patient treatment, elective or emergency.
Youngsters already working more than 70 hours a week. In India, we follow a good family culture, that's why Indian students don't get involved in killing their friends in birthday party or in any kind of social events. While in USA, we regularly observe that their children didn't get their parents accompanions due to lengthy office hours. Don't destroy our healthy family relationship and sanatan culture by following blindly the western system.
Less hours ..So more people get work...india has manpower
"If you work hard you will achieve your dream of me being richer." -Capitalist proverb
This has given a good exploratory tool. I will make sure to ask my future employer what they think about 70 hours a week culture. This will help get a better sense of the organization's culture.
Don't marry, Don't care for kids, parents and avoid socialization. Work for Capitalist who will work for 1 hour a day and enjoy 80 percent of the wealth created
Unfortunately his generation saw the working as physical effort only.
The world started changing and he identified the services as ‘working to earn money’. Unfortunately he still carrying the same idea. Since he provides services to the west, he knows how it is in Europe and USA.
But, he is asking for 70 hours working in India. It can’t be digested and gives only a feeling of him making money for his service business.
Strong debate is required, only to limit to 45~48 hours of working per week.
Indian work productivity is lowest in world, more people should be bought to work force rather then pushing existing work force to log more work hours.
All those who agree are entrepreneur and want their companies to grow and profit will be solely theirs .
Founders can work more than 70 hours as they rope in lot amount of profit, perks, holds shares of company, reaps dividends , creats Empire for self , properties at home and abroad, carefree lavish lifestyle for their children's and grandchildren , whereas employees get just peanuts !
We are already working more than 70 hrs, the thing is working for a company or business org is only being taken as work, they donot count services extended toward family kids, parents and society and self care also as WORK.
Understand what he is saying… if you work long hours under someone like him, one day you will make your own Infosys….
Or else you will remain unskillful forever!
NM - "I want to work 70 hrs a week!". Media houses - Lets wait for a few days to see which direction the wind blows!
That was a amazing content and well made remarks on narayan Murthy's capitalist statement
His workforce worked for 70 hours a week, burnt themselves out but made him a billionaire. Thats the smart way to use people to make oneself rich. His CEO thought otherwise and left.
Youngsters dropped dead during garba, all work and no physical activities
Indian companies treats its employees like slaves and makes them labor for 70 hours a week, with little to no respect. Work culture here in the US is amazing and employees are treated with respect. Happy to have left India and made a future for my America born son!
Wonderful episode! I for one liked it!
No problem working for 70 hours a week ……. 40 hours for the company….30 hours on yourself for your skill improvement….. Simply simple
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Pay for the additional hours. So people who want that can choose it can do it and get paid more and people who don't want it need not to. Most of our IT jobs are outsourced jobs. Working 10-12 hours on those jobs without any additional pay is just giving them cheap human resources for exploitation. But if you are an entrepreneur then yeah this can be definitely promoted. The govt should provide all the resources and support them to put in the max work hours. We need more entrepreneurs in our country not workhorses.
If you work 70 hours a week, you will become cross-eyed like him.
Mr Narayana Murthy is off late behaving like the yesteryear comedian Keshto Mukherjee by his sheer resemblance.With the wealth at his command he thinks He is Zinda Talismath the famous small bottle which they claim answer to all the ills by his continuous Idiotic quotes.
Working 70 hours per week to build own startups is ok. But no need to work for consulting companies it’s waste of our energy and time.
Working or passing time for 12 hrs per day for 6 days
Mr Murthy for more or less, is a part of the so-called analog world within the digital world. When he was young, he did not have the support today's workforce has, whether online or offline, to efficiently do their work. Unlike Mr Murthy, who may have been required to go to the books for any problem, thus adding up the hours, today's generation can solve the problem with just one click online with the help of forums and all. Thus reducing the equivalent work done drastically in terms of hours put.
His 8 to 10 hours per day are no more than half of that today if you consider the same amount of work.
His company may have evolved with time, but it seems, his ideals have not. He needs to work on that. And nobody would work for someone else for that much time. He worked for himself, not for other companies. He carried the risk of promoter. His employees do not carry any such risk. Big difference.
For murthy, even that interview would be considered work. But for a normal employee a regular "forced" chat with his manager in corridor would not be considered work. But for executive leadership that time would be considered work.
If our body doesn't produce cortisol we never get alarmed of danger.
I don’t know, where he mentioned that youth should be slaves all their life and not to discover the true potential of self..
I grew up reading young world, listening to AIR 8:15 am news for 15 minutes while getting ready, watching the DD news at 9:00 PM.
These days, I don’t enjoy news! It’s and effort to find good news.
Can you please make a video on how present population is hooked on or addicted, to the online presence?
It is not about working but not giving the same amount of payment
40 hrs is more than enough but quality should be there we really lack in it.
70% of wealth in India goea to 10% of people.
If you affect by Spinal Chord problem,
Stress, not enough
Sleeping, eye sight
Problems ,
Not enough Time to
Spend with Chidren
Then only you tealise
Others Problems ,
That day will come
to you
6 hours max no one should work more than that but common people will always fall prey and succumb to these tyrants
The medical aspect was correctly put. Even my doctor gave the same explanation to my prediabetic and hemoglobin level at 8. He has put me mandatorily on pranayam and have atleast 1 vitamin C rich fruit. Take care of your health first as money cannot buy you health. Love Tanushree.
Since there are many jobless youths. Narayana murthy wants labourers not professionals to work.
Excellent. I loved every minute of it. Thanks.
A person having lot of money will say money is not everything in life.
A person having enough money to live decently will say. Money cant buy happiness.
A person having no money will say money is.everything owhennhd can get something.
A person havinbntoo much if money will.become to multiply it. NRN IS THIS CATEGORY.
14hrs a day and the starting salary is 12k, they’re short of money for something big.
First, let government employees work for 10 hrs a day, 6 days a week. They work for 2- 3hrs a day at their wish and will and various legal and illegal incentives. Anything more than 60 hrs a week is impossible, that ,too, depends on person's fondness, abilities and wish to excel on the subject, else you have th accept lesser pay, lesser work- happiness in your lesser means.
Youngsters should be paid well too...
Work 70 hours a week for your own business where you are the boss...why you will sacrifice your personal life for others' success despite being underpaid & having chronic health issues, stress & family issues.
One of the low paid company making this statement 70 hrs a week, will he liable for employee health, bring up value building culture rather becoming workaholic 😊
Quantity Vs Quality , Hard work vs Smart work
Message to Narayan Murthy: This is your country too, Infosys net worth is 566 Lakh Cr and the Loan on India is 155 Lakh Cr. Why don't you Pay this loan so that India will work more toward Development ????
Rewarding culture has to improve if you want to get loyalty and more out of employees. Empathy is missing.
Did murthy say working for infosys? It is just work and indians are doing more than that! Starting from 6am to
10 pm all family works!😂
resident doctors are working 90-100 hrs a week across India their condition is like bonded laborers they cant even quit because of the hefty seat leaving bond
Owners do not want to hire 2-3 employees at lower salary but instead hire 1 person at very high salary and make them do 4 people's job.. Hiring more employees will help country's job problem and also reduce stress .. but r the owners listening??
Work for 70 hours if you want to. Do not force upon
that was interesting topics sir the last science fact,maybe we should tell this fact mr murthy as welll please make more such videos and alos book reference or paper to refer to are great too
(WORK - LIFE) Balance Debate-
Explanation -
1. One rule can't be applied to all as every individual is different with capabilities, dreams and nature.
2. There are people who are extraordinary and ambitious like Narayan Murthy.. which may account only 5% of total population..
3. So what about other 95% population who are very ordinary in capabilities and ambition..?
4. What about per capita income and purchasing power..?
5. If all people will focus on one job then what about other industries.. ?how other industries will get customers from..?
6. Work life balance will balance all industries.
Conclusion -
1. Narayan Murthy philosophy is good but is only applicable for few people and not for the most of the population as it will create imbalance in society..
2. Instead work life balance will improve per capita income and purchasing power of an employee which can become a customer for other industries..
3. So work life balance philosophy will help accelerate economy of the nation..
Indian constitution says
सत्यमेव जयते..
So am I telling the truth..?
Sincere thoughts by
Amit Pustake
Who am I? (father of the nation)
Mission - Wakeup & Educate India
1st battle(1947) - Independent India
Next battle(2023) - Prosperous India..
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This reflects his attitude towards SQ & EQ for employees.
02:28
We must stand clear on the range of aal these categories
Short time work
Long time work and over time work
youngsters are fleeing to other countries not just to work for money but because of work life balance..
Most of the people who earn a living by doing a job are stressed because it's a job they don't like.
Mr Narayan Murthy is there because he followed his passion to build Infosys. In fact someone like Mr Murthy would clock 100 hours a week or even more. Someone like Murthy's mindset would expect everyone to do the same. But the world where job is just to earn your living. A statement like this could make a negative impact.
And a video like this is bound to happen. 😊
This biological sideview on thin topic is really good research. Thank you.
We need to work for development but for whom?? Murthy sir forgot this.
Not a Big Deal. Who ever criticizing the 70 Hours Work pressure sitting inside their AC offices, should immediately rush to the front desk and ask their SECURITY person how much time they work per day. Most of the answer would be 12 Hours and that also without a week-off!! So nothing will happen, only the company will get more productivity and you will get good sleep at night.
Why not to ask Narayan Murthy how many hours his daughter work in England ?
These people want another people to work for them day and night for their children to go abroad and live good and lavish lifestyle.
The message brought out various facts but not conclusive about 10 hours of work per day.
How abt that infy guy paying more corporate taxes paying more money for appraisals
Answer to your question - If no cortisol is produced, it will lead to auto-immune disorder. It will lead to too much salt cravings. no sleep, fatigue , weight loss etc. So, it's important to have adequate amount of cortisol as it does help in many ways. Too high cortisol is not good, just the right amount to get the benefits it provides.