Thanks Andy, day one purchase for me on these paints, I've ordered numerous amount of tanks from you which I haven't built yet this is a game changer odorless and water cleanup.
Ammo released these paints here in Spain (their home country) a few weeks back. What you got is how they sell them, in multi bottle packs of 12 different colors each. Right now they are only selling them in two different packs, the ones you got, not as individual bottles. They seem to be aimed at wargamer figure painters, hence the colors, not model makers, and also why they spray and brush. I am not into that, but a friend is and he ordered the packs. He did a couple of figures and says they are great and much better for brushing than other paints, thinned or not. They have also introduced two new lines of paints here. A-stand, for airbrush only, that come in a variety of colors and finish types and Cobra paints for model cars that come in a big variety of car colors, along with special thinners for each. Each set sells for 20 euros or about $21.30 each.
I’m always loathe to get into another new paint line but these look pretty good. Will wait and see if they will do a complete military color selection.
Hi Andy, that looks to be a great range of new paints, not certain if I will get them when they arrive in Australia, but never say never, bedt regards from Australia
Good video Andy, but why does the handle on your Eclipse look different than mine? Yours has an extra cut-out on the very end. Did you have it machined? Many thanks.
Is there any update on when these, and the other sets, will be hitting the US market in any great quantity? I saw them one one model web shop at over $40 each....I thought these were going to be in the $25 range though.
Did you prep the model before painting it? (Sand or wash) How long did the acrylic dry before you put the lacquer on it? I am going to be interested in buying this paint. (I have been using Tamiya and other cheap brands of acrylic paint) Thank you for the review.
I got last week the Cobra paints and used them. Cobra are automotive colors, and the ATOM are normal color like from Tamiya,Mr hobby etc. I am a Tamiya Laquer man. But those Cobra paints are making me lean over to the AMMO paints now. Normaly i sed Zero,Gravity or Streetblitsers Clearcoats, but the clearcoat from that Cobra line stinks as the rest,but the result is for sure at the same level as the big Brands. The best to use those paints is use a primer and let dry overnight.A few light coats with in between 2 hours of each coat then a wet coat,let it dry overnight, the the clearcoat. 1 Mistcoat specialy when there are decals with 10% Mr hobby leveling thinner,2th coat a bit thicker coat with another 10% Mr hobby leveling thinner,drying time 2 hours between the coats.3 th coat a good wet coat with again 10% Mr hobby leveling thinner. So in total at the end 30% extra leveling thinner. And a glossy shine as the famous diamond in a goats fill in the rest. Fully cured after 3 days.After the 3th coat,what you see is your endresult. That is how i did it. But AMMO has also instruction videos on youtube how to use the paints, sure the ATOM line will gets his own video also.
That was a pretty harsh test spraying on naked white plastic but the paint seemed to perform very well from a coverage and laying down point of view. I would like to know how well it adherers to the plastic and whether it easily wears off. For a car like that I would be looking to put a a coat of primer down like the Tamiya rattle can primer that I know sticks really well to plastic and then paint on top of that.. If that was gloss paint I would be a little disappointed at the shine. The matt black went down very well though.
True, most folks are shocked when they discover that primer isn't what they think it is. The smoother the surface the easier it'll stick, contrary to popular belief where folks think it's needs roughing up for paint to stick. That may work for water colors and oil based paint, Enamels, Lacquers and oftentimes Acrylics will stay on fairly easy with good prep alone.
Spraying a primer usually lacquer or enamel based if in a rattle can and then painting over with acrylics does not create any better bond than to plastic, since the two different paint types do not interact with one another. We spray primer on miniatures when we could in fact just use a couple mist coats of our base color before the final "color coat" to get the same result. Besides, why do people think there models are going to be passed around like a football and need automotive level protection? Mine go behind glass and basically stay there.
Certainly looks good. I will be really interested to see the military range of colours. I have four of your 1/16 kits ready to start soon having been delayed by minor hand issues over the last year. Just a question in relation to your Iwata air brush. What size needle do you use in it? I have a Neo with a stock .30 needle. Lovely air brush and well worth the extra price.
Hi Andy, can you do a 1:1 review comparing the 'normal' Ammo paint with the Atom? i think they are very much the same, the normal Ammo paint is thinnned down as far as i can see.
I have tried several acrilic paints so far and AMMO is my first choice always. I think ammo acrilics are the best. Mr Hobby C paints are my second choice, only cos they are smelly and toxic. On other hand if you want to see bad acrilic paint try hataka (I put it into trash immediatelly after some tests).
@@MC-on8zq Dzięki ale nie skorzystam z Twojej świetnej rady ...radzę sobie dobrze z farbami innych producentów...Tobie polecam Śnieżkę, albo Magnata, do którego akrylowej hatace blisko...ale może tobie akurat pasuje, niektórzy wolą się niepotrzebnie męczyć...
@@cnfuzz if it works for you, use it, but there are many better paints on the market. Hataka has got many criticism for their acrilic paints on web forums and from youtubers, and I agree with them. I managed to paint my models with "Red" hataka, but comparing to other brands like, AK, AMMO, Vallejo it is definetely worst.
I wonder if this is primarily going to be an automotive paint finish line. Otherwise it seems kind of strange that they would come out with this as an alternative to their existing acrylic line. The number of new paint products coming out is hard to keep up with, if I have it right this is Ammo's 4th paint line that I can think of . Maybe 5th?
No his is gaming aimed which the names of the colors suggest. Using clears for the paint shine is bass ackwards anyways, enamels and lacquers are automotive grade. Acrylics are for toys and game things.
Hello, nice vid but you only test propietary, dedicated thinner. I wonder if these paints work well with homemade thinner (mix of x% water + y% isopropyl alcohol, maybe with a bit of glycerine and dish soap). I will not ask about thinning it wit Mr.Color 400 levelling thinner, I guess this being a lacquer it would surely be a fiasco. Cheers.
I ANSWER MYSELF: From what I have just seen in another vid, this ATOM paint is purely water-based. Thinning it with anything alcohol or lacquer will turn it into goo.
Wow it's sprays like Tamiya. Previous generation of ammo required to put couple of thin layers gently... Could be helpful someone to test them against several types of masking tapes.
Doesn't spray at all like tamiya, i've tested some , i didn't like the sprayed quality , doesn't like low air pressure , doesn't do mist coats well , i like it for brush work where it levels very nice
What about typical airbrush needle tip clogging? Just bought AK 3rd gen primer and it's absolute mess clogging wise, Ammo OneShot or Waterborne were way better regarding that.
I find Atom having a much smaller sweet spot for airbrush than other paints , only good for larger surface , not detail or mist coats, fine for paintbrush
Your gotta be the most well stocked shops in the whole United States and your customers must be the luckiest people to have your shop can't hardy get the shop here to get anything especially when they advertise special orders which I tried to get and then be being told sorry cant get it don't order anything on line because don't really know to much about the know how
I've actually mixed craft store paints with Future as the thinner and ended up with some very durable paints. Granted, Future is no more, but the Holloway House "Quick Shine" product is very close, from the comparison of the MSDSs. So, it probably would work as well.
Almost December and still waiting. Sure i know it takes timw custom and so forth. The next time that you have your reviews. Let us know something. If it be next month.
Looks good, love the AMMO line! 👍👍
Thank you from the UK, just ordered some to trial them on some aircraft, your review was very helpful.
Thanks Andy, day one purchase for me on these paints, I've ordered numerous amount of tanks from you which I haven't built yet this is a game changer odorless and water cleanup.
Love the atom colors and results😊
Cremeweiss is an interior color for German tanks. Looks good Andy!
@@OnlyQualityPeople4MEit is a German word….for beer and paint color
Ammo released these paints here in Spain (their home country) a few weeks back. What you got is how they sell them, in multi bottle packs of 12 different colors each. Right now they are only selling them in two different packs, the ones you got, not as individual bottles. They seem to be aimed at wargamer figure painters, hence the colors, not model makers, and also why they spray and brush. I am not into that, but a friend is and he ordered the packs. He did a couple of figures and says they are great and much better for brushing than other paints, thinned or not. They have also introduced two new lines of paints here. A-stand, for airbrush only, that come in a variety of colors and finish types and Cobra paints for model cars that come in a big variety of car colors, along with special thinners for each. Each set sells for 20 euros or about $21.30 each.
Gracias. Me gustaría obtener colores para automóviles, especialmente el color blanco y azul para los Ángeles Azules (F/A-18 Hornet). Bendiciones
It looks like very.nice paints👍
Fantastic video !After how much time did you airbrush the lacquer over acrylics?
Nice to learn about long term adherence with no primer.
I’m always loathe to get into another new paint line but these look pretty good. Will wait and see if they will do a complete military color selection.
Hi Andy, that looks to be a great range of new paints, not certain if I will get them when they arrive in Australia, but never say never, bedt regards from Australia
The paint looks great.
What kind of model was that?
What size needle air pressure did you use. ?? I thought the new ATOM airbrush paints had yellow tops do indicate they were from airbrushing, ?
Awesome looking finish from these new paints, will they be available in the UK?
I use the ammo paint a lot looking forward to getting some of these new ones you should finish of the van
Solid review.
Good video Andy, but why does the handle on your Eclipse look different than mine? Yours has an extra cut-out on the very end. Did you have it machined? Many thanks.
sounds good and big thing HOW mutch are going be ? will be look at it when come out like get big paint set well to ues on my minis see the nest vid
2.80 EU per bottle
I ordered the new Takom tiger box the other day! Super excited! Also the paints look good so far.
Is there any update on when these, and the other sets, will be hitting the US market in any great quantity? I saw them one one model web shop at over $40 each....I thought these were going to be in the $25 range though.
You used fire hose approach!🤣
Jman
Did you prep the model before painting it? (Sand or wash)
How long did the acrylic dry before you put the lacquer on it?
I am going to be interested in buying this paint. (I have been using Tamiya and other cheap brands of acrylic paint)
Thank you for the review.
yes I did wash the kit, mainly because it was dusty lol
I got last week the Cobra paints and used them. Cobra are automotive colors, and the ATOM are normal color like from Tamiya,Mr hobby etc. I am a Tamiya Laquer man. But those Cobra paints are making me lean over to the AMMO paints now. Normaly i sed Zero,Gravity or Streetblitsers Clearcoats, but the clearcoat from that Cobra line stinks as the rest,but the result is for sure at the same level as the big Brands. The best to use those paints is use a primer and let dry overnight.A few light coats with in between 2 hours of each coat then a wet coat,let it dry overnight, the the clearcoat. 1 Mistcoat specialy when there are decals with 10% Mr hobby leveling thinner,2th coat a bit thicker coat with another 10% Mr hobby leveling thinner,drying time 2 hours between the coats.3 th coat a good wet coat with again 10% Mr hobby leveling thinner. So in total at the end 30% extra leveling thinner. And a glossy shine as the famous diamond in a goats fill in the rest. Fully cured after 3 days.After the 3th coat,what you see is your endresult. That is how i did it. But AMMO has also instruction videos on youtube how to use the paints, sure the ATOM line will gets his own video also.
Best stuff around!!!!!
That was a pretty harsh test spraying on naked white plastic but the paint seemed to perform very well from a coverage and laying down point of view. I would like to know how well it adherers to the plastic and whether it easily wears off. For a car like that I would be looking to put a a coat of primer down like the Tamiya rattle can primer that I know sticks really well to plastic and then paint on top of that.. If that was gloss paint I would be a little disappointed at the shine. The matt black went down very well though.
True, most folks are shocked when they discover that primer isn't what they think it is. The smoother the surface the easier it'll stick, contrary to popular belief where folks think it's needs roughing up for paint to stick. That may work for water colors and oil based paint, Enamels, Lacquers and oftentimes Acrylics will stay on fairly easy with good prep alone.
Spraying a primer usually lacquer or enamel based if in a rattle can and then painting over with acrylics does not create any better bond than to plastic, since the two different paint types do not interact with one another. We spray primer on miniatures when we could in fact just use a couple mist coats of our base color before the final "color coat" to get the same result.
Besides, why do people think there models are going to be passed around like a football and need automotive level protection? Mine go behind glass and basically stay there.
Right on Andy!!!!
awesome video as always also hey do you have Tamiya's 1/35 Marder III - Sd.Kfz. 139? in us i found it in Europe
Certainly looks good. I will be really interested to see the military range of colours. I have four of your 1/16 kits ready to start soon having been delayed by minor hand issues over the last year. Just a question in relation to your Iwata air brush. What size needle do you use in it?
I have a Neo with a stock .30 needle. Lovely air brush and well worth the extra price.
@@OnlyQualityPeople4ME You Say Napoleon 😂
Been checking on line for a month. Nothing showing for this line. Am I missing it?
Hi Andy, can you do a 1:1 review comparing the 'normal' Ammo paint with the Atom? i think they are very much the same, the normal Ammo paint is thinnned down as far as i can see.
I have tried several acrilic paints so far and AMMO is my first choice always. I think ammo acrilics are the best. Mr Hobby C paints are my second choice, only cos they are smelly and toxic. On other hand if you want to see bad acrilic paint try hataka (I put it into trash immediatelly after some tests).
Grzesiu, kredki to będzie coś co cię nie przerośnie skoro piszesz takie opinie o Hatace XD
Naah , Hataka is fine , you just need to know how to handle it , i prefer AK over mig atom but none of the acrylics can touch lacquer no contest
@@MC-on8zq Dzięki ale nie skorzystam z Twojej świetnej rady ...radzę sobie dobrze z farbami innych producentów...Tobie polecam Śnieżkę, albo Magnata, do którego akrylowej hatace blisko...ale może tobie akurat pasuje, niektórzy wolą się niepotrzebnie męczyć...
@@cnfuzz if it works for you, use it, but there are many better paints on the market. Hataka has got many criticism for their acrilic paints on web forums and from youtubers, and I agree with them. I managed to paint my models with "Red" hataka, but comparing to other brands like, AK, AMMO, Vallejo it is definetely worst.
Being NON TOXIC SHOULD Make Them Cheaper,,,,,, Right ❓❓ Thanks For Sharing Andy, GBA 🤗 Gary.
I wonder if this is primarily going to be an automotive paint finish line. Otherwise it seems kind of strange that they would come out with this as an alternative to their existing acrylic line. The number of new paint products coming out is hard to keep up with, if I have it right this is Ammo's 4th paint line that I can think of . Maybe 5th?
No his is gaming aimed which the names of the colors suggest. Using clears for the paint shine is bass ackwards anyways, enamels and lacquers are automotive grade. Acrylics are for toys and game things.
Thank you for the into on the paints.....cant wait for the lineup up of Military lineup, German, USA, Soviet, British etc etc and various effects !!!
Hello, nice vid but you only test propietary, dedicated thinner. I wonder if these paints work well with homemade thinner (mix of x% water + y% isopropyl alcohol, maybe with a bit of glycerine and dish soap). I will not ask about thinning it wit Mr.Color 400 levelling thinner, I guess this being a lacquer it would surely be a fiasco.
Cheers.
I ANSWER MYSELF: From what I have just seen in another vid, this ATOM paint is purely water-based. Thinning it with anything alcohol or lacquer will turn it into goo.
Wow it's sprays like Tamiya.
Previous generation of ammo required to put couple of thin layers gently...
Could be helpful someone to test them against several types of masking tapes.
Doesn't spray at all like tamiya, i've tested some , i didn't like the sprayed quality , doesn't like low air pressure , doesn't do mist coats well , i like it for brush work where it levels very nice
Andy's Hobby Headquarters what kind car kit this is on this paint
What about typical airbrush needle tip clogging? Just bought AK 3rd gen primer and it's absolute mess clogging wise, Ammo OneShot or Waterborne were way better regarding that.
I find Atom having a much smaller sweet spot for airbrush than other paints , only good for larger surface , not detail or mist coats, fine for paintbrush
Hey andy, are you planning to make t-34 in 1/16 together with takom?
I am not a fan of AMMO MIG but, these seem to cover nicely. Worth a try if reasonably priced.
Your gotta be the most well stocked shops in the whole United States and your customers must be the luckiest people to have your shop can't hardy get the shop here to get anything especially when they advertise special orders which I tried to get and then be being told sorry cant get it don't order anything on line because don't really know to much about the know how
Nice
No undercoat prior to painting?
It dries harder than other acrylic on bare plastic but there is better paint for airbrushing , much better
@@cnfuzz no
Was the base model Primered first? or painted right over the plastic?
Hopefully they"ll have military colors
Several of those colors look similar to the 1960s and early 70s Mopar colors.
These paints work just like the craft paints at Michael's Stores. They look very nice but not very durable. You need the top coat to protect.
Love your videos. One day I love to come to your shop
@@mikeantill1413Carlosbrito has a shop? Or are you talking about Andy’s Shop in Phoenix (Glendale) AZ?
I've actually mixed craft store paints with Future as the thinner and ended up with some very durable paints. Granted, Future is no more, but the Holloway House "Quick Shine" product is very close, from the comparison of the MSDSs. So, it probably would work as well.
Have you personally used Atom paints or are you speculating?
Well don’t you need a. Clear coat anyway
I suspect these paints are a copy of those made by Zero Paints as they have a similar high pigment content, go on smooth, and need clear coating.
What about that poor car model that’s meow all sorts of crazy colors?
On the Ammo web site, £17.42 per box, only 2 listed at this time. Carriage from Spain to USA will be horrendous.
Almost December and still waiting. Sure i know it takes timw custom and so forth. The next time that you have your reviews. Let us know something. If it be next month.
I prefer Mission Model Paints absolutely flawless paints, not a fan of mig
Day 9 of politely asking for a 1/16 T32E1 model
For me i dislike these caps. MRP have these and the pour out of it is not as good at all, also messier. I am sure the product will be good though.
Those jars are badly designed. What a mess every time you need few drops of paint.