The Real Reason NO ONE Wanted Patrick Mahomes in High School
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- Do you ever wonder how no school outside the state of Texas even offered Patrick Mahomes a scholarship coming out of high school? Or, how about the two biggest schools in Texas opting to skip out on the future Super Bowl champion? No one, not Nick Saban, Dabo Swinney, whatever great college coach and great recruiting staff you can think of… just about all of them couldn’t see the potential in the quarterback who has now taken over the NFL. And schools that should, in theory, rule over the Texas recruiting scene like Texas and Texas A&M, well, they struck out even harder.
There is a reason for all this. And in this video, we’re gonna dive into Patrick Mahomes’ crazy lack of interest in his high school recruiting journey.
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I'd like to personally thank all the teams that passed on Mahomes. The turnaround that the Chiefs have made since drafting him is unbelievable, and I'm loving every minute of it! 😎
What turnaround? The Chiefs were 53-27 in the 5 seasons prior to drafting Mahomes, getting to the divisional round twice.
Averaged 10 wins. Andy Reid is the one that turned the Chiefs from doormat to powerhouse. Mahomes just took them to the next level.
I also like that Andy and Co bided their time and had him learn for a year from Alex Smith.
@@John6-40 they still went nowhere in the playoffs before Mahomes arrived. Andy made them a winner again, but it took the addition of Mahomes to win two Super Bowls.
@@MaverickGrabber71 I’m with EST. That’s not a turnaround. That’s icing on the cake. But like a lot of icing.
Amen
He is definitely a generational type quarterback and will eventually rewrite history at his position!
His lack of recruiting interest is pretty damn wild. It did not take him very long to start making unbelievable plays on the field as a true freshman at Texas Tech, despite the fact we were told by the recruiting services that he was a 3-star dude who would need a bunch of development as a bench-warmer. His talent was heavily underestimated.
Which does actually speak to the fact that while Tech capitalized on his talent, they weren't exactly geniuses by nabbing him. Ostensibly, Mahomes had to go somewhere, and his 3-star rating combined with the fact that he was from Texas lined him up nicely for getting an offer from Tech. Even Tech didn't know exactly what they were getting - Mahomes didn't start week one. But they tried all their QB's that year (2013) in the starting lineup - Mahomes, Mayfield, and Webb. Once they saw him out there, where I believe Tech was genius showed up in keeping Mahomes over Mayfield. Many people would've disagreed with that until 2018, but the decision certainly aged well. Wreck 'Em Chiefs!
@@Eggemeyers If I remember right he came in for Webb after Kansas State knocked him out of the game. I think we pulled the game out but Mahomes lite it up in relief.
@@mikemc4549 nah his first game tome was against TCU. Tech lost 82-27 when Davis Webb was benched. Mayfield hit the Portal the day he signed.
@@Hielo_Negro903 Ah yea, I was off a year. Mahomes came in 2014... But most of what I said still stands. I could've sworn I watched Mahomes play in 2013 but my memory must be failing
@@Eggemeyers I know Kermit personally. I scouted him. He only went to Tech because his dad is a legend there.
The reason why is Mahomes' style and skill set. When you first look at him, you think he is going to get you into trouble, then you start to think he gets lucky a lot, then you realize it isn't luck. We went through this at Tech and laughed when NFL pendants down played Mahomes, knowing full well they would be won over in a year or two. Scouts don't take long looks, so a lot of coaches were stuck in the 1st phase. It is important to note that Kingsburry was not real high on Mahomes early on either. Mahomes started as a true FR because Davis Webb got injured and Baker Mayfield transferred. There is a clip/photo of KK & his staff's' reaction to Mahomes' 1st play, that was a disaster. By the end of the season, people were happy & by the end of the next season, people used Mahomes to talk about Kingsburry as the QB guru.
How much amazing talent have we never gotten to see/never will see……
I’ve seen so many talented superstar Highschool/college players get absolutely screwed over from horrible coaches to horrible politics to horrible moments of wrong place wrong time. It’s unfair. But that’s life.
🤦🏿♀️👏🏿👏🏿
The best athletes I ever played with or against never even played college. Grades and off court stuff always the reason. 6A Texas school
@@BitcoinOnlyCentralif you can’t hold a 2.0 in high school where they give you 2.0’s if you just show up… you don’t deserve to pass (or play football). Why would an nfl team want to pay someone who won’t show up?
@@goldwolf0606 there are plenty of NFL players who have done far worse things character wise than fail to show up to school.
@@goldwolf0606 I agree with you.
Thank you. After watching your video I feel that there can be little doubt that his diverse sports experience when growing up greatly helped him develop the skills he has today.
He's not the only one that has great potentials but was overlooked. There's a reason for that, but regardless of those early years he has come a long way, and shown his haters that not just that he has potentials, he's very talented, and smarter than most of his haters who talked trash about him at every turn. 💯🤴
He did have some other offers. He wanted to play baseball in college as well. This turned most schools away since they believed that he was going to be a baseball player anyway. He was on the baseball team as a freshman but it was obvious that he was better in football.
A couple of observations. He owes a lot of his overall success to the encouragement of his family. Seems they understood that it's important to see beyond the frustration of the day and sticking to it.
Also, Patrick is fortunate that the Bears overlooked him. They had the same problem selecting talent in other positions, as well as management. He likely would have never seen the success in Chicago that he has in Kansas City.
yep, the Bears lack an offensive line that cannot protect its QB.
We will like to thank everyone who passed on him.. we love him here in Missouri
If Patrick went to a playoff contending team in college, those coaches would’ve forced Patrick to change his style. Texas tech with kliff was the best thing to ever happen to him. Maybe next time being a father...
As a proud Missourian, i'm so glad we got him!!!
Winning feels great... especially after suffering through the schottemheimer years...
As a proud Texan I love the Red Raiders and wanted my Houston Texans to draft him. But I am glad he ended up in KC because I think Bill O Brian would of ruined him.
So much good talent out there that doesn’t even go college let alone pro. Life has its twists and turns.
Someone asked Glen Campbell if he could read music( he was, after all, a renowned studio player) He said " Not enough to hurt me" Same parallel with Pat's lack of having a pitching coach interfere with his natural ability!
Mahomes had a stellar college career. In fact, he sent Baker Mayfield packing to Oklahoma. Yet Baker was the first pick in the draft. The two draft pundits on ESPN said that “Arm strength is overrated.” when referring to Mahomes. A blind man could see that he was a generational talent. Pat Mahomes, Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson all were drafted below where their talent dictated. They lead their teams to 5 Super Bowls and produced multiple MVPs. Hmm! Why were these players drafted below where their talent dictated!
It’s the same as the Record executives in Nashville ran Luke Combs out a few years back and told him know one would want to hear his music ! He’s now one of top country artists !! 🙏
What really hurt Patrick mahomes was that his father was a major league pitcher. Despite his talents at football, it was possible that he would play professional baseball.
Just so you know ive been to all of your vids since "why tom brady really left" and havent missed one love your work
Thanks Mark! I always look forward to seeing your comments. I love that I have viewers I can count on like you. Means a lot to me!
I am so happy Mom talked some sense into that boy. And I'm not even a Chiefs fan.
Kingsbury defied the Heads of The Texas Tech Organization,I can remember that they didn't want to put Mahomes in the starting lineup,So give Kingsbury a Great deal Credit for seeing and Believing in Patrick Mahomes or else We very much be watching Him in the Canadian League like They have done many other Great Quarter Back's
I disagree. The reason that Mahomes was disregarded and disrespected is because he was unusual, and had different skill sets than the scouts were used to seeing. So, was that Mahomes fault? I posit that the scouts and coaches that ignored him thought they were making a wise decision. Fortunately, he was picked by Andy Reid, who saw the potential, and nurtured and developed that potential into greatness.
There have been coaches that have gotten great talent and not done a thing with it, or even destroyed that talent.
Finally, there is the man himself. Patrick Mahomes is, in the words of Andy Reid, "smart smart". He has an amazing memory, great football IQ, and is a "first in/last out" kind of player. He's everything that a coach dreams of having. I think, in my opinion, that Patrick went to the best opportunity for him, and his rise to superstardom was a perfect storm of talent, hard work, and great coaching.
Comparing Peyton Manning to Mahomes, at the same time in their careers. Here are some comparative numbers for Patrick Mahomes and Peyton Manning
Attempts - Mahomes - 1,099, Manning - 1,079
Completions - Mahomes - 724, Manning - 639
Completion Percentage - Mahomes - 65.9, Manning - 59.2
Passing Yards - Mahomes - 9,412, Manning - 7,711
Passing Touchdowns - Mahomes - 76, Manning - 52
Interceptions - Mahomes - 18, Manning 43
Wins - Mahomes - 24, Manning - 16
Both Manning & Mahomes are exceptional quarterbacks, who possess the intangible quality of leadership and the capacity to win. Seemingly, each year Manning was in the NFL, his team's overall record was 12 - 4 or better. Consequently, Manning would put his Colts' team in the position to play in the AFC championship game, each year (seemingly). For five consecutive years, Patrick Mahomes has willed his Kansas City Chiefs team to the AFC championship game. Mahomes has now earned two Super Bowl victories.
As noted above, both Manning and Mahomes are excellent quarterbacks. Mahomes' intangible qualities of grit, humility and perseverance have allowed Mahomes to perform at the highest levels and win.
Reminds me of Joe Burrow as far as being overlooked...and could not get an offer from Nebraska even with the history of his dad and brother having played there. So, it seems getting overlooked is not unusual for QBs who go on to greatness.
Stop jor burrow was not overlooked 🤦🏾♂️
I bet the next college/ NFL recruiter will NOT be so worried about foot work or how the next star throws the ball like a second baseman!
Great video. Well-researched! Stats don't always give the whole story. Subscribed. Bengals fan, though, so... Joe Burrow couldn't crack the starting 11 at tOSU bc Urban Meyer didn't like his lack of a "cannon" arm. He graduated early to get his 2 years at LSU. Wasn't taken as seriously bc small hs, etc...Mahomes is great, and an "overcomer" and Burrow the same...Great video. Would love to see you do a comparison of the 2 best young QBs...maybe Justin Hebert as well.
Systems never see the best.
My favorite quarterback especially because he attended Texas Tech
Noti Gang
Also I wanted more Jackson Mahomes info...na I'm playing 😂
It seems the best thing for a QB IS TO BE OVERLOOKED and underestimated. It puts a chip on your shoulder to work harder and prove something with really no expectations.
Mahomes in draft: low rank
Pick 10: should have been 1st
When all teams regret not selecting patrick mahomes ahhhhhhhhh
Judging 18-year-old talent is tough. He was a guy people wanted but were not going after strongly because he was a 2nd-round pick in MLB and turning down six figures already at MLB. It was generally assumed he would become a baseball pitcher. A very raw player due to his focus on baseball in an age of quarterback specialization. Even Texas Tech did not know what they had. Michael Strahan went to Texas Southern, Mean Joe Green East Texas State, Too Tall Jones Tennessee State, Walter Payton Jackson State.
Jerry Rice went to Mississippi Valley State. Randy Moss went to Marshall. Joe Burrow couldn't get on at Nebraska even though half his family played there and then sat the bench at Ohio State behind Drew Haskins, and had to transfer to LSU.
He was an "underdog" seems wild. mahomes turned out to be a legend. 🎉
Yes to how this started ! I have always wondered that !
No honest insight from the guys assessing Mahomes. BIG MISTAKE, BIG MISTAKE Thank goodness Patrick as a young man, knew his strengths, knew his potential and his worth and continued to pursue his dream. Who in his past is sorry now. Not Patrick! He's where he was meant to be.
shout out to Momma Mahomes for pushing her son to stick with football. we can thank her for creating a MVP, superbowl winning legend.
Nicely done!
Probably also worth mentioning that the football world had just gone through the spectacular flame-out of Johnny Manziel. He was supposed to be what Mahomes turned out to really be. Nobody wanted to be the scout, or the team, who picked up the next Johnny Football. That one factor was a BIG reason why teams decided to pass on Mahomes.
hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. Johnny didn't want to work hard.
Mahomes was going to quit.. even he had himself as an underdog. Crazy!
He probably was always good but went into a great situation. He had Andy Reid. He had Alex Smith.
when Patrick Mahomes left to go to college White House stunk the next 3 years and they moving our conference what team I play for and is Ennis lions and I won a ring 14/15 season
Mahomes knows baseball and basketball.
A very good athlete..can play any sports
After all mechanics set aside, what were the results and accuracy....Massive .....I'll take great outcomes and accuracy every time over good mechanics robot
I guess the brilliant minds were expecting another Tebow. And I am a Tebow fan, but he could not complete the passes in the pros. Mahomes is a different breed for sure. This is a great article.
There goes my hero
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I’m from Tyler Texas I remember watching White House beating John Tyler. He was throwing on a NFL level back then.
Yeah, the "media" (and recruiters) embraced vince young and johnny manziel... Nuff said?
His footwork from under center was not good. He stood flat-footed in the pocket, like a statue. Even though he was quick to scramble out of trouble, coaches are looking for guys bouncing on their feet, or doing that running-in-place thing that Peyton Manning did. What people didn't understand was he didn't NEED to worry about his feet to make a snap throw on the money.
He's a natural short-stop. With all the attention on the big play, I think losing Tyreek Hill really brought that out. One of the disappointments in the Tampa Bay game was how the Chiefs were not only not looking to exploit the middle of the field, they weren't even SENDING people into those soft zones underneath. Didn't have a short game, and couldn't protect Mahomes for more extended plays. Now, the deep ball is more of a change-up, and they set it up with running and quick passing. If you're not even attempting double moves, it takes the starch out of the pass rush.
Great video. Love Mahomes.
I think Kingsbury was what he needed. Kliff let Mahomes be himself. Heck, Kliff even let him pracrice crazy throws. I think the big schools would try to force Mahomes to be ordinary.
Davis Webb, mahomes,stidem ,baker all on the same team Texas tech NFL qbs now crazy
Drew Brees was overlooked in Texas too. He played at Prudue. 1st round hall of Famer I'm sure.
Overlooked? he was projected in the first round and was drafted #10 overall
You also gotta remember back then high schools, colleges and NFL didn’t take black QB’s serious and usually made them change their positions too.
Motivation is the key to success.
He reminds of a young John Elway, but with softer more catchable passes than Elway. He wanted to quit in high school because his high school coaches probably sucked. That's why I quit football in high school.
That happens during the growing period. 😂💯🤴. Where greatness dwells, the haters follows.
"The FAILURE to see his future greatness has been swept under the rug." 8:01
Fact.
Stats in high school: 4,619 passing yards, 50 passing touchdowns, 948 rushing yards, and 15 rushing touchdowns as a senior in high school.
9 teams passed on Mahomes. The Bills traded the 10th pick that got Mahomes.
I actually scouted him in high school. He had amazing talent buy he underperformed in big games. He took risks and made bad decisions often getting away with it at times due to low level competition. However the intangibles were always there. He was Def a 3 star. But a diamond in the rough.
Super Bowl Number 2!!!!
The scrutiny starts at such a young age that the system is very narrow in scope. You wind up with one kind of player. Then, with luck, the rare talents surface. Tony Dorsett-too small, Tom Brady- too risky, Patrick - too quirky. Meanwhile, they are usually muti talented.
What's going at 1:25, with the QB wearing a different colored jersey?
You could see him making NFL level tight-window passes in high school. Every fault pointed out by scouts turned out to be an outside-the-box strength. He has changed the entire game, with defenses being designed to stop him, and almost always failing. Andy Reid didn't have much trouble envisioning a QB that could do anything Andy could write down on paper.
I don’t know about that…because he was still considered too much gun slinger, reckless. I mean how first, very first play in college resulted in a fumble and an interception on the same play. Same play, he fumbles, recovers, then threw a pick. It was a god send for Patrick to have kliff as his coach. Thank god he never went to sec. They’d screw his mechanics up.
QB scouting baffles me. Scouts are so wrong so often it's crazy
Well, as we say?
Never judge the book by it's cover?
As a chiefs fan I am really sad he was overlooked.
Bet those tears were flowing at the bar last SB.🤣
This kind of sounds like Johnny Football, the only difference is the lack of drugs and alcohol.
I knew Andy Reed and BA knew what kinda talent he was. KC jumped in front of the Cardinals because they knew BA was licking his chops at the shot of getting his hands on Pat.
Another reason? Johnny Manziel. Manziel was a little undisciplined, a diamond in the rough and had development "potential". Nobody was going to try that dumpster fire of an option again so soon. So Patrick gets passed over.
AYY THAT'S MY HIGH SCHOOL IN THE BACKGROUND
The guy who drafted a QB ahead of him, Trubisky, needs a golden raspberry award.
Mahomes Was in the right situation. He was really lucky. I wonder if Tim Tebow had Andy Reid if he would’ve been a Super Bowl quarterback
Well shoot Kingsbury basically had to beg him not to switch to baseball. I think he played for tech for a couple games
Some schools wasted time with Johnny Manziel over this guy lol
WHERES THAT VIDEO
Texas probably didn't recruit him because if being Texas Tech the rival
I think it worked out pretty well for him...
163, dang I’m slow today
So In Other Words Patrick M. Was A Undercover Underdog Quarterback Designated For KC. Mo. For Other Teams NOT To See His Future Accomplishments Except For Andy Reid. WoW For Andy...
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You should be a bigger channel
We’re getting there! Thanks man!
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lol this way put out 2 years ago, just think how this video would have been if done today? lol!
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Maybe mahomes not getting interest out of high school that propelled him to where he is today
So because he didn't have the people around him as a sophomore in high school, then he wasn't even on anyone's radar.
These recruiters seem to have no great talent in recognizing true qb talent. They seem to only want to check off the boxes, and show no interest in anyone who doesn’t fit in their box. They take no interest in things like heart or competitiveness or the will to win, but only in things like how fast is he in the 40, or how tall is he, how strong of an arm does he have etc.. Guys like Brady, Rodgers, etc weren’t shown much early interest, while other top draft picks never amounted to anything special.
The reason is- they predicted he would have a whopping 18 turnovers like he had this year including a critical fumble against the bengals in the championship game...
Then went on to win the SB, league MVP, and SB MVP? Who dey?
Mark my words
Patrick Mahomes is going to be a heck of a quarterback, one day
Football is the most conservative sport and if you don't fit into their "playbook" you get overlooked. Are his size they wanted a picked passer. Either way, he didn't get totally overlooked. He played at an FBS institution in a Power 5 conference. That isn't getting overlooked. Also, considering that he played other sports AND entered the MLB draft, that didn't help.
That’s why you have to question the so-called expert’s advice about who’s the best choice. It’s obvious that all of them got this one wrong from the beginning. I am glad he’s making them eat crow.
Boy were they wrong!
Really Many Passes and Kicking themselves for it. Wanting to change him.
I guess scouts come a dime a dozen too.
It still boggles the mind that UT actually showed interest in mahomes, but for defense. Just as they recruited Michael Crabtree for defense. Lol.
Best of all the quarterbacks better than the ones who get all the money and fame
what I just heard is that all of those camps destroy the natural ability of prospects by forcing them all to fit one pattern.