Having more than 25 years plus experience in Networking, Security, Wireless, Voice and DC. I am letting my CCIE expire, the dynamics of Enterprises have changed and CCIE (Routing, DC, Wireless, Voice, Storage etc) has not much relevance in Enterprise. Most of the Enterprises have managed WAN , Data Centers are being migrated to cloud, traditional VoIP networks being migrated to Cloud Telephony, adoption of Cloud storages. The charm of CCIE is fading except if you are working in Telcos.Having said that, the superficial networking in cloud is no match to the real deep networking. However Cloud opens a plethora of different services and opportunities to expand your learning horizon. A time worth to invest on emerging cloud technologies than to recertify and maintain the CCIE status.
Hi Adam, great video and very relevant. One of the elements you touched on when covering the incentives was still being able to use some of the learning methodologies that you put in place for the CCIE. Could you expand on this at all? Perhaps a topic for another video entirely, learning how to learn through any certification track, I feel, is very overlooked in an industry where there will always be a need to learn.
00:00 Introduction 01:36 Baseline - What is CCIE? 09:09 Is it still worth it? 09:35 Incentive #1 - Technical knowledge 13:25 Incentive #2 - Status and generic benefits of doing something difficult 15:42 Incentive #3 - Remuneration/Salary 18:29 Summary 19:00 In conversation with Heather Sze 38:00 In conversation with Jose Moreno
I appreciate this video. I will say that it would have been greatly improved if you had researched the current CCIE tracks. Instead you seem to be discussing the CCIE from 5 or 10 years ago. Maybe all your points are still valid, or maybe there's more nuance than you address.
We might need a special force all in one CCIE training (1-year full time) with Cisco Enterprise, Security, DC, Collaborations, SP, Collaboration, and wireless. Then in the end need to install a whole network with all technologies :) LOL
CCIE was the thing in the 2000's till 2012 when the cloud came to life. Now, in this age of AI, I highly doubt that CCIE is a thing anymore. Unless you work at Cisco VAR or a telecom company, CCIE is pretty useless now. I've been disgusted when I hear people saying that one must pursue a CCIE to gain more knowledge and be educated more, not just to earn more income. They forget that CCIE is just a tech knowledge that is extremely useless in your brain if not put in practice. CCIE is not a science like chemistry or biology to describe it as "GAINING MORE KNOWLEDGE". Tech knowledge means nothing if not practiced!
I am CCNP and I was looking to go for a CCIE, but with the Cloud I have changed my goals and I am planning to get better at automation, K8s, IaC, SDWAN and be Multicloud. (Azure Solutions Arch - Azure Network Ass, AWS Solutions Arch+ AWS Networking Specialist, Google Cloud Arch + Google NETwork).
One of the best interviews I've watched with these very humble tech people. All the best guys! 👍
Having more than 25 years plus experience in Networking, Security, Wireless, Voice and DC. I am letting my CCIE expire, the dynamics of Enterprises have changed and CCIE (Routing, DC, Wireless, Voice, Storage etc) has not much relevance in Enterprise. Most of the Enterprises have managed WAN , Data Centers are being migrated to cloud, traditional VoIP networks being migrated to Cloud Telephony, adoption of Cloud storages. The charm of CCIE is fading except if you are working in Telcos.Having said that, the superficial networking in cloud is no match to the real deep networking. However Cloud opens a plethora of different services and opportunities to expand your learning horizon. A time worth to invest on emerging cloud technologies than to recertify and maintain the CCIE status.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Thangavel!
How many CCIEs do you have?
Very useful video Adam, thanks. Even though I'm not the 25 year old :) I still found this very relevant to some thinking I've been doing recently.
Hi Adam, great video and very relevant. One of the elements you touched on when covering the incentives was still being able to use some of the learning methodologies that you put in place for the CCIE. Could you expand on this at all? Perhaps a topic for another video entirely, learning how to learn through any certification track, I feel, is very overlooked in an industry where there will always be a need to learn.
Very informative on practical points of view . Thanks Adam
00:00 Introduction
01:36 Baseline - What is CCIE?
09:09 Is it still worth it?
09:35 Incentive #1 - Technical knowledge
13:25 Incentive #2 - Status and generic benefits of doing something difficult
15:42 Incentive #3 - Remuneration/Salary
18:29 Summary
19:00 In conversation with Heather Sze
38:00 In conversation with Jose Moreno
I appreciate this video. I will say that it would have been greatly improved if you had researched the current CCIE tracks. Instead you seem to be discussing the CCIE from 5 or 10 years ago. Maybe all your points are still valid, or maybe there's more nuance than you address.
Fair comment, thanks!
Great content Adam, very insightful.
Thanks for this video, really appreciate it.
We might need a special force all in one CCIE training (1-year full time) with Cisco Enterprise, Security, DC, Collaborations, SP, Collaboration, and wireless. Then in the end need to install a whole network with all technologies :) LOL
noticed they all got CCIE back then.... like 200x ... now it's 2023,
Did... did she just call the CCNA/NP theory..
CCIE was the thing in the 2000's till 2012 when the cloud came to life. Now, in this age of AI, I highly doubt that CCIE is a thing anymore. Unless you work at Cisco VAR or a telecom company, CCIE is pretty useless now. I've been disgusted when I hear people saying that one must pursue a CCIE to gain more knowledge and be educated more, not just to earn more income. They forget that CCIE is just a tech knowledge that is extremely useless in your brain if not put in practice. CCIE is not a science like chemistry or biology to describe it as "GAINING MORE KNOWLEDGE". Tech knowledge means nothing if not practiced!
I am CCNP and I was looking to go for a CCIE, but with the Cloud I have changed my goals and I am planning to get better at automation, K8s, IaC, SDWAN and be Multicloud. (Azure Solutions Arch - Azure Network Ass, AWS Solutions Arch+ AWS Networking Specialist, Google Cloud Arch + Google NETwork).
Good luck on your journey!
@@AdamStuart1 Thank you Adam!
This is also the way I'm struggling for.. do we have to pursue all 3 major Cloud providers Arch+Network.. ?