I tried this. One of the Schallers on my Rickenbacker was a bit stiff, so I got some lithium grease from Halfords and it improved the turning, but then found that there was major play - I had to turn the knob one whole turn between tuning up and down. So I emailed Schaller in Germany, telling them what I had done and what happened. They asked for a photograph, and then straight away said they will send me a complete set of brand new replacements, without a receipt, for a guitar that is three years old. Now THAT is customer service! Grover have a lifetime warranty as well, so that's worth checking. I didn't know about Schaller so I'm super happy that I'm getting a new set. Thanks Schaller!
The guys at JHS who distribute the Grovers I purchased would not replace them without the original packaging. Grovers that we purchase in the UK are made by a factory in china licensed by Grover for distribution in the UK. So basically they are fake Grovers in my book. Schaller have not sold out, they are a great company.
I take off tuner 'buttons' by removing the screw that holds each one on the shaft. A black 'split'' washer and then a white nylon washer next to the tuner body can be removed for cleaning and light lubrication with light grease (gun grease). The gearing inside is not accessible since the rear of the case is sealed with a round plate. But if the shaft is jiggled and pushed ... the geared shaft starts to emerge from the case. Lubricant/cleaner can be just touched on the end of the gearing (like fishing reel grease) and then reassemble. Cleaning and light lube of the button on the shaft helps a lot and any small rough places can be removed with a fine diamond nail file (like Revlon in the USA) so the surfaces are smooth and free of burrs. Quality tuners (Grover, even Wilkinson and better) do not need much help, but China ones are sticky and really need improvement. The screws that hold the 'buttons' on are just barely snugged to hold on the buttons. the hex nuts on the front of the headstock face can be snugged very lightly and the inside of each one is where the rotating shaft glides.... very lightly wipe grease on the tuner shaft. Be sure to replace the metal and nylon washers just as installed... not backwards!
Happy New Year! I LOVED THIS! You have no idea how grateful I am to read this. I've just purchased a new guitar that came with the worst tuners on the face of the earth. Good thing I'm a MacGyver. I've been destroying and rebuilding things better since the days when my parents had no clue I had a complete workstation at the back of my closet. I had already taken the tuner apart only to find a classical guitar type open tuner hidden inside a locked chamber. Your fix is what I was missing. I had lubricated all, but those tiny washers. THIS IS THE FIX. I can hear a choir of angels as I type. I'm all in! Subscribed and all. Thank you!
Funny, that's the same thing I did with the Grovers on my SG - except I used machine oil instead of grease. It goes into the tuner easier. I've never figured out when to use grease and when to use oil, but since there really isn't much stress on the gear in the tuner, I really don't think it matters.
They are probably packed with grease hence why you should only use grease, I suppose if your only doing the washers a litteral drop of oil isn't going to sink into the actual machine head, but still if oil gets to grease, weird things stsrt to happen
The real problem is that tuners with separate buttons are designed with a flat on the shaft that drives the worm gear that engages with a corresponding flat on the side of the hole through the button. This stops the button from just spinning on the shaft and keys it so the shaft turns when you twist the button. If the tolerances on the shaft and hole were very tight the two would mate tightly and there would be little to no play. Unfortunately tolerances on most tuner shafts and buttons are quite wide and there is often a lot of play. It is a poor design and tightening the end screw doesn't really solve this, it just makes it less obvious. This is a problem the old Kluson tuners don't have because the buttons are pressed onto the shafts.
`I took all tuners off and too k them all apart and cleaned them real good with tooth brush. Put them back with a little dab of white grease and retuned with no problem at all. Excelllent.
Thanks for the great idea! Now I will call the tuners notchy due to lack or better words and description. Do you think break slider pin grease will work?
i have no problem with grover tuners but wonder why the hint on u-tube talks about epiphone tuners which, on my masterbuilt are stiffer than a pastors face while passing the pub
Interesting.. late to comment I have brand new les paul studio with sketchy Grover tuners. Coincidence.. I have also, a epiphone which I replaced the factory locking tuners for Grovers and have no issue. I will try this on the Les paul. Although.. I found the tuning issue to actually be with the bridge. I used a little 3 in 1 oil on each saddle and seems to have fixed the issue. Will try this for the notchyness.
I was going to get some Grover locking tuners cause of this issue. But I was able to fix the problem with my Grover 3x3 205 tuners on my Dean VX. But this worked well thanks for the tip. And the end of the tuner that u turn is called Button yes u can replace them . Keep up awesome work rock on an stay safe .
can this be done with the strings still on? i just slapped some new strings on mine and really should've remembered to do this before. don't want to waste a set.
Found this video as I’m looking for help on my Les Paul. Gigged Friday night with it and only noticed that part of the tuner has dropped (the black circular part on the tuner, my guess it’s slipped when the string broke) ? Is this an easy fix ?
I have grovers on one of my les Pauls and I have the same issue....probably because I live in Arizona and its very dry....very, very, very dry,. Gonna do this right away, so that I will be pleased as punch as well. Cheerio
That "fix" is only temporary and not address the REAL problem, which is gear lash inside the machine. You need to open the tuner up and put grease on the gears inside.
No, the actual problem was not the gear, it was the connection f the button to the shaft being a poor fit. But your explanation is perfectly feasible in most cases :)
I've got a 95 Washburn dime333 and my tuners ar so lose you barely even touch them and they move should i tighten those screws also they are very smooth not notchy at all thanks
Do you think This Will Work with: Big Bends Nut Sauce? It's also a Lube for Guitar? ( if not ) What exactly should I purchase? thanks for sharing the information.
I know of 2 things that are light grease that is never sticky: fishing reel grease (clear white and very light) and a reddish light grease for handguns. Both are in a small tube with a tiny hole to squeeze out a tiny bit. I'd like yo know how to lube inside the tuner body and about that small part that will push out some when you press on the shaft end after the button is removed.
I did have Grover tuners in 1977 1964 Gibson MelodyMaker different your video will help me .mine dont have a screw at the end like my OscarSchmidt by Washburn 6 string it 'help..how do you say it ? Are you......way...over..tthere UK..? Cheerio.Rock for the Rock. ⬆🎁
Thanks for the fix Dave, now my SG is back in tip top shape! I also have a strat that has a loose tuner, like the whole peg wobbles and if I try to tune it it comes undone, is it broken or do you think it can be fixed? Hope your cold passes soon!
This would help me but the problem is my 5th string tuner's washer is missing if I try to tune it it doesn't work, I also can't buy a new washer because of quarantine :(( feelsbadman.
Hi Dave nice video and will be aired to give it ago!! I don't suppose you know anywhere that sells those washers do you? My nylon one has split and pinged off somewhere but I noticed I'm short of a washer and slowly over time will un- tune itself many thanks again for the tip. KEEP IT LIVE \m/
@@DaveBarlowGuitar Hey man thanks for getting back to me I actually found some on the net and fitted great!! Applied the spray grease and worked like a charm thanks again!! 👍👍
hi again dave brill i must do that my tuners are on the bottom of the headstock they would be L hand could i put R hand ones on and fill the holes on the other side thanks nice vid.
good mate ive got an acoustic thats got a really stiff tuner to turn its on the high E string its really stiff at turning i.ll try your idea hopefully it will work .i.ll let you know thanks mate
Dave Barlow I did try that.. maybe it’s the quality.. could have been glued as well.. but it doesn’t come out. I guess I’ll just have to wait and take it to repair when it’s gonna be possible. Thanks for your reply
Mine are painful to tune. It physically hurts my fingers because of how stiff they are. They’re open gear six-to-a-plate tuners on my old tempo guitar and I was wondering whether I should replace them or if there was someway to clean them
Just bought a Breedlove Pursuit EX S Concert BB CE from Reidys, really nice guitar, but the tuners are awfull, the buttons all rattle & fall off, tightening does nothing, they still undo and fall off, the actual buttons themselves don't sit square on the shaft and super loose horrible fit
Brilliant tip, Dave. I have some Grovers that were a bit stiff and wondered what to do with them. Thanks mate! You said you had an Epiphany. I thought you had a Gibson? HAHAHAHAHHAhahahah..ha ......... ha..... :-/
SuperLube is a food-safe, silicone-based white grease with PTFE. I bet it is similar to what you used. It also is a great in the nut grooves and saddle/bridge where the strings tend to bind during tune-up and tremolo/bends. You can use a toothpick to apply it. I bought a 14 oz jar for about 11 dollars on Amazon. That ought to last a lifetime unless I start repacking bearings on motors with it.
Just to let you know I will be doing another video very soon about Irongear Pickups, if you want to hear how a Blues Engine and a Dirty Torque pickups sound recorded you can check out my band channel here, be good to get your feedback and comments, regards Dave Barlow th-cam.com/video/vwbVXchM7I8/w-d-xo.html
Thanks...Mr.Barlow Six Low E string of my Classical Guitar is hard to tighten and it stops at 80 Hz,it doesn't give me the correct tune in Standard Turning? what must I do? is Lub helpful? if yes? which Oil? what is recommendation?
Can these tips be changed if the owner of the guitar wanted to do so ? I have a lp copy vintage v99 The tuners are the same as this But i dont like the chrome tips id like to replace with plastic ones cream ish colour
The small nylon washer broke last night while I was trying to tighten the machine head. I can't even afford new strings never mind new tuners. So it looks like I'm giving up on the only hobby I had and enjoyed. I feel lower than a rattlesnakes arse in a really deep hole😢
TK, you CAN get to the inside of those fully closed tuners. BTW, when you do, just like in the "Wizard of Oz," when Toto pulled back the curtain, you'll find nothing to fear. There is a very simple assembly, as opposed to anything too crazy to work with. Lubricate it all very lightly once inside. There is absolutely no need to spend more $$$ on tuners. How you open it is with the sharp blade of an exacto knife 🔪 taking care that you don't injure yourself. Run the blade around where the casing connects, loosen up the adhesive that holds it together, and gently; carefully pry it open. You can also use a tool I fashioned for this kind of stuff. I got a few pairs of jewelry and sewing machine pliers (cheap). I used felts from my cymbals. They're thick, so I slice about 2-5mm right down the center and crazy glue them to the insides of pliers, creating what I call 'soft pliers', which I use to grip things without hurting them.
DB I take cod liver oil tablets every morning with a cold drink and I've not had a cold for years. Eat less dairy as well. That concludes today's health tip. You're welcome.
PTFE (aka Teflon) is almost good on any musical instruments in context of lubricating. Due to its non-reactive, self-lubricating, low coefficients of friction and hydrophobic properties. PTFE is so inert that it almost can be applied on any kind of surface without attacking the substrate ever (under normal musical instruments playing conditions). I used to deal in PTFE products in the past.
No I dont think so, however tuning pegs can get damaged around the post hole but with plenty of windings it should be fine. If you have locking tuners always keep an eye on this.
How well do you think powdered graphite would work? I keep a tube to sprinkle on my bridge saddles and nut when changing strings. I'm having the same problem with stiff Grover tuners on my new Les Paul.
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I tried this. One of the Schallers on my Rickenbacker was a bit stiff, so I got some lithium grease from Halfords and it improved the turning, but then found that there was major play - I had to turn the knob one whole turn between tuning up and down. So I emailed Schaller in Germany, telling them what I had done and what happened. They asked for a photograph, and then straight away said they will send me a complete set of brand new replacements, without a receipt, for a guitar that is three years old. Now THAT is customer service! Grover have a lifetime warranty as well, so that's worth checking. I didn't know about Schaller so I'm super happy that I'm getting a new set. Thanks Schaller!
The guys at JHS who distribute the Grovers I purchased would not replace them without the original packaging. Grovers that we purchase in the UK are made by a factory in china licensed by Grover for distribution in the UK. So basically they are fake Grovers in my book. Schaller have not sold out, they are a great company.
Dave Barlow That's too bad. Now I wish I kept my receipt for my Grovers!
Dave Barlow I should add that your instructions were easy to follow and this definitely works!
I take off tuner 'buttons' by removing the screw that holds each one on the shaft. A black 'split'' washer and then a white nylon washer next to the tuner body can be removed for cleaning and light lubrication with light grease (gun grease). The gearing inside is not accessible since the rear of the case is sealed with a round plate. But if the shaft is jiggled and pushed ... the geared shaft starts to emerge from the case. Lubricant/cleaner can be just touched on the end of the gearing (like fishing reel grease) and then reassemble. Cleaning and light lube of the button on the shaft helps a lot and any small rough places can be removed with a fine diamond nail file (like Revlon in the USA) so the surfaces are smooth and free of burrs. Quality tuners (Grover, even Wilkinson and better) do not need much help, but China ones are sticky and really need improvement. The screws that hold the 'buttons' on are just barely snugged to hold on the buttons. the hex nuts on the front of the headstock face can be snugged very lightly and the inside of each one is where the rotating shaft glides.... very lightly wipe grease on the tuner shaft. Be sure to replace the metal and nylon washers just as installed... not backwards!
Happy New Year! I LOVED THIS! You have no idea how grateful I am to read this. I've just purchased a new guitar that came with the worst tuners on the face of the earth. Good thing I'm a MacGyver. I've been destroying and rebuilding things better since the days when my parents had no clue I had a complete workstation at the back of my closet. I had already taken the tuner apart only to find a classical guitar type open tuner hidden inside a locked chamber. Your fix is what I was missing. I had lubricated all, but those tiny washers. THIS IS THE FIX. I can hear a choir of angels as I type. I'm all in! Subscribed and all. Thank you!
My Grover appeared to be broken. I watched this video which encouraged me to disassemble it. My tuner now works again. Thanks!
Im in a Home Quarantine and my guitar is my only Friend.. And this shit happen to me.. Tnx for teaching this you save my life 😊
Please subscribe as I got lots more to share with you about this :)
@@DaveBarlowGuitar Sure Dude 👌
So Ned stark has been giving guitar tips
Yep, winters coming
Literally the same shit I was just about ot say
What about my home made ukelele made from wood?? ITS SO HARD TO ROTATEEEEEEE
i thought the same!!
explain what 'Ned Stark' means for us ignorant fellows...
Funny, that's the same thing I did with the Grovers on my SG - except I used machine oil instead of grease. It goes into the tuner easier. I've never figured out when to use grease and when to use oil, but since there really isn't much stress on the gear in the tuner, I really don't think it matters.
They are probably packed with grease hence why you should only use grease, I suppose if your only doing the washers a litteral drop of oil isn't going to sink into the actual machine head, but still if oil gets to grease, weird things stsrt to happen
It will last 6-12 months in my experience before the grease dries out and stiffens up, but if you’re in a humid climate much longer.
That screw is to adjust the tension on all tuners it should not be tightened to the max unless you want that stiffness.
Just trying to help and inform
Just finished greasing my tuners, now their heaps better thanks Dave.
this is a good tip. thanks for also putting the tip in the comments!
No problem!
The real problem is that tuners with separate buttons are designed with a flat on the shaft that drives the worm gear that engages with a corresponding flat on the side of the hole through the button. This stops the button from just spinning on the shaft and keys it so the shaft turns when you twist the button. If the tolerances on the shaft and hole were very tight the two would mate tightly and there would be little to no play. Unfortunately tolerances on most tuner shafts and buttons are quite wide and there is often a lot of play. It is a poor design and tightening the end screw doesn't really solve this, it just makes it less obvious. This is a problem the old Kluson tuners don't have because the buttons are pressed onto the shafts.
Thank you for sharing. I have the same problem with the tuners of my J-45. No I can fix it!
Hey Dave, I just got a 1986 custom in alpine white. Yes, these grovers are stiff.
`I took all tuners off and too k them all apart and cleaned them real good with tooth brush. Put them back with a little dab of white grease and retuned with no problem at all. Excelllent.
Thanks for the great idea!
Now I will call the tuners notchy due to lack or better words and description. Do you think break slider pin grease will work?
any grease will help as long as it does not damage the nylon washers.
i have no problem with grover tuners but wonder why the hint on u-tube talks about epiphone tuners which, on my masterbuilt are stiffer than a pastors face while passing the pub
I'll try this i have a brand new les Paul thats seams to feel like it hangs a tiny bit maybe that will work
Interesting.. late to comment
I have brand new les paul studio with sketchy Grover tuners.
Coincidence..
I have also, a epiphone which I replaced the factory locking tuners for Grovers and have no issue.
I will try this on the Les paul.
Although..
I found the tuning issue to actually be with the bridge.
I used a little 3 in 1 oil on each saddle and seems to have fixed the issue.
Will try this for the notchyness.
Great video, mate. I'll try it on my own guitar.
I hope this tip will work on my tele tuners
I was going to get some Grover locking tuners cause of this issue. But I was able to fix the problem with my Grover 3x3 205 tuners on my Dean VX. But this worked well thanks for the tip. And the end of the tuner that u turn is called Button yes u can replace them . Keep up awesome work rock on an stay safe .
Glad I could help
can this be done with the strings still on? i just slapped some new strings on mine and really should've remembered to do this before. don't want to waste a set.
yup
Found this video as I’m looking for help on my Les Paul. Gigged Friday night with it and only noticed that part of the tuner has dropped (the black circular part on the tuner, my guess it’s slipped when the string broke) ? Is this an easy fix ?
I have grovers on one of my les Pauls and I have the same issue....probably because I live in Arizona and its very dry....very, very, very dry,. Gonna do this right away, so that I will be pleased as punch as well. Cheerio
thanx a lot! you literally saved my guitar! =)
i sandpapered the washers as well. they were dirty and bent
Glad I could help!
That "fix" is only temporary and not address the REAL problem, which is gear lash inside the machine. You need to open the tuner up and put grease on the gears inside.
No, the actual problem was not the gear, it was the connection f the button to the shaft being a poor fit. But your explanation is perfectly feasible in most cases :)
I've got a 95 Washburn dime333 and my tuners ar so lose you barely even touch them and they move should i tighten those screws also they are very smooth not notchy at all thanks
give them a little tighten up
I just bought a 2020 standard 50s, love it.
Do you think This Will Work with: Big Bends Nut Sauce? It's also a Lube for Guitar? ( if not ) What exactly should I purchase? thanks for sharing the information.
I know of 2 things that are light grease that is never sticky: fishing reel grease (clear white and very light) and a reddish light grease for handguns. Both are in a small tube with a tiny hole to squeeze out a tiny bit. I'd like yo know how to lube inside the tuner body and about that small part that will push out some when you press on the shaft end after the button is removed.
This solved for me...What a king!!
I'm going to try this on my new Grovers that feel like crap. Thanks.
Thanks for the tip! Glad I found your channel. Cheers mate!
Hallo my FRIEND!,Im Mike FROM ATHENS..!THIS i can do it and in a cheap Tunners..?
I did have Grover tuners in 1977 1964 Gibson MelodyMaker different your video will help me .mine dont have a screw at the end like my OscarSchmidt by Washburn 6 string it 'help..how do you say it ? Are you......way...over..tthere UK..? Cheerio.Rock for the Rock. ⬆🎁
Thanks for the fix Dave, now my SG is back in tip top shape! I also have a strat that has a loose tuner, like the whole peg wobbles and if I try to tune it it comes undone, is it broken or do you think it can be fixed? Hope your cold passes soon!
This would help me but the problem is my 5th string tuner's washer is missing if I try to tune it it doesn't work, I also can't buy a new washer because of quarantine :(( feelsbadman.
Hi Dave nice video and will be aired to give it ago!! I don't suppose you know anywhere that sells those washers do you? My nylon one has split and pinged off somewhere but I noticed I'm short of a washer and slowly over time will un- tune itself many thanks again for the tip. KEEP IT LIVE \m/
I have no idea where to get a new one but been taking them off old tuners for spares and had no issues :)
@@DaveBarlowGuitar Hey man thanks for getting back to me I actually found some on the net and fitted great!! Applied the spray grease and worked like a charm thanks again!! 👍👍
Could you help me? My tuning keys is so hard to spin i cant adjust the keys on a right note
I tried it yesterday, it worked!!
Thanks again!!!
3 of my tuners are losing that white rubber washer so they turn easily, like you said notchy, idk what to do
Just get new nylon bushings I had one that was squished flat
And I bought a new set for a few bucks off Amazon worked great
Do you need to remove the string?
no
Thanks 👍
in the video you say you aren't sure whether this solution will last a long time or a short time. how long did it last for? thanks!
Yes it will last a good while.
hi again dave brill i must do that my tuners are on the bottom of the headstock they would be L hand could i put R hand ones on and fill the holes on the other side thanks nice vid.
Thank you so very much , Boss ! Your explanation is so clear !
good mate ive got an acoustic thats got a really stiff tuner to turn its on the high E string its really stiff at turning i.ll try your idea hopefully it will work .i.ll let you know thanks mate
So I took the screw off but the head still won’t come of.. wth.. any ideas? Thanks for the video
hmmm not sure, should come off, give it a wiggle.
Dave Barlow I did try that.. maybe it’s the quality.. could have been glued as well.. but it doesn’t come out. I guess I’ll just have to wait and take it to repair when it’s gonna be possible. Thanks for your reply
Mine are painful to tune. It physically hurts my fingers because of how stiff they are. They’re open gear six-to-a-plate tuners on my old tempo guitar and I was wondering whether I should replace them or if there was someway to clean them
sounds like they are at the end of their life.
Yeah they’re some old little dudes on there lol should I upgrade them to locking tuners?
Just bought a Breedlove Pursuit EX S Concert BB CE from Reidys, really nice guitar, but the tuners are awfull, the buttons all rattle & fall off, tightening does nothing, they still undo and fall off, the actual buttons themselves don't sit square on the shaft and super loose horrible fit
thank you boss.......does it stay in tune better?
Yes, but sparingly.
mine are loose, can i have ur tip?
Is that a reissue? And I’m still sending you my picks. We’ve been tending to medical issues. All good though
yes its a reissue dated 1997
Can I do this while the string is still on under low tension?
yes
Nicely explained! But my guitar's peg makes a creaky sound when untuned 5th string. Is this normal?
sounds weird
Brilliant tip, Dave. I have some Grovers that were a bit stiff and wondered what to do with them. Thanks mate!
You said you had an Epiphany. I thought you had a Gibson? HAHAHAHAHHAhahahah..ha ......... ha..... :-/
Thanks Dave. Make sure it's silicon grease. How is your Smooth Hound gear working for you ?
Peter XXX yes I believe so as is used in electronics etc, also doing good with the smooth hound, thanks for asking 🙂
SuperLube is a food-safe, silicone-based white grease with PTFE. I bet it is similar to what you used. It also is a great in the nut grooves and saddle/bridge where the strings tend to bind during tune-up and tremolo/bends. You can use a toothpick to apply it. I bought a 14 oz jar for about 11 dollars on Amazon. That ought to last a lifetime unless I start repacking bearings on motors with it.
Some of my musician friends are looking for old tulip tuners
Any guesses on where to get them? Thanks
new ones are easy to find old ones might be pricey if you can find them
Just to let you know I will be doing another video very soon about Irongear Pickups, if you want to hear how a Blues Engine and a Dirty Torque pickups sound recorded you can check out my band channel here, be good to get your feedback and comments, regards Dave Barlow
th-cam.com/video/vwbVXchM7I8/w-d-xo.html
Dave Barlow thanks bud
Always nice to get a personal musician to musician comment 👍
Wiill it work with lub (transparent, used in door hinges) instead of grease?
Just use what I have said as I cant be sure what ingredients are in your lube, could be detrimental to components.
Good tip, thanks for sharing.
cool tip thanks Dave.
Thankyou
We all know you re a massive fan of grover tuners Dave;)
worked for me thank you very much
what pegs are that?
Can I take the black shaft part out? The part that holds the washers and the key
no, I dont think so
You just helped me a lot!! Thank you!!!!
My tuner keys wont come off the peg they are stuck. Unscrewed everything they wont detach
undo the nut
Wow, thanks Dave. I've got some Chinese cheapies that this just might work on.
The red copper ones? This feel awful but they look great!
@@endoffate5475 Nah, basic chrome; nowhere near the quality of Grovers, for example.
I used coconut hair oil, worked for me
Thanks, great idea. 👊😎
Thanks Dave, simple but effective....
Where can I get a nylon whasher ? I need to replace my current one because it's broken. Halp ASAP pls.
sorry I dont know, ask your local music shop
I almost threw my tiners then i mistankenly tightened those screw then i realised and kept it
What screw are those???
Well I'll be damned! Maybe there should be a washer overhaul kit?
Thanks...Mr.Barlow Six Low E string of my Classical Guitar is hard to tighten and it stops at 80 Hz,it doesn't give me the correct tune in Standard Turning? what must I do? is Lub helpful? if yes? which Oil? what is recommendation?
sounds like the tuner is broken.
Nice, thanks for the help Bro!!!!
Difference between genuine grover from China and USA is the washer. It
Can these tips be changed if the owner of the guitar wanted to do so ? I have a lp copy vintage v99
The tuners are the same as this
But i dont like the chrome tips id like to replace with plastic ones cream ish colour
They can be changed as far as I am aware.
hi again what kind of grease you using does it matter???
silicon grease, otherwise you could damage the washers.
Hello but how do you re attach tuning pegs that are not screw on?
you dont
can we use petroleum jelly?
?
I used PTFE spray. Was ok but grease prob better.
The small nylon washer broke last night while I was trying to tighten the machine head. I can't even afford new strings never mind new tuners. So it looks like I'm giving up on the only hobby I had and enjoyed. I feel lower than a rattlesnakes arse in a really deep hole😢
What would you do about rattling tuners? If it woudn't, would just replacing the tuners be a better fix?
And congrats on 1,500 subscribers!
BLACKMETALWILL make sure that the tuners are firmly fixed, check all screws and retaining nuts if applicable, problem solved.
TK, you CAN get to the inside of those fully closed tuners. BTW, when you do, just like in the "Wizard of Oz," when Toto pulled back the curtain, you'll find nothing to fear. There is a very simple assembly, as opposed to anything too crazy to work with. Lubricate it all very lightly once inside. There is absolutely no need to spend more $$$ on tuners. How you open it is with the sharp blade of an exacto knife 🔪 taking care that you don't injure yourself. Run the blade around where the casing connects, loosen up the adhesive that holds it together, and gently; carefully pry it open. You can also use a tool I fashioned for this kind of stuff. I got a few pairs of jewelry and sewing machine pliers (cheap). I used felts from my cymbals. They're thick, so I slice about 2-5mm right down the center and crazy glue them to the insides of pliers, creating what I call 'soft pliers', which I use to grip things without hurting them.
Cheers from Canada....
DB I take cod liver oil tablets every morning with a cold drink and I've not had a cold for years. Eat less dairy as well. That concludes today's health tip. You're welcome.
Telling someone to eat less cheese is crap. Cheese is food of the gods.
Could I use big bends nut sauce?
Do you do this while the string is still on?
yup, you can do
What about Teflon / ptfe spray? Would that be appropriate to use?
TBH I have no idea, I just watched Crimson Guitars youtube channel and saw Ben Crowe him using this stuff. :)
PTFE (aka Teflon) is almost good on any musical instruments in context of lubricating. Due to its non-reactive, self-lubricating, low coefficients of friction and hydrophobic properties. PTFE is so inert that it almost can be applied on any kind of surface without attacking the substrate ever (under normal musical instruments playing conditions). I used to deal in PTFE products in the past.
Can having a tuner peg like that break the string ?
No I dont think so, however tuning pegs can get damaged around the post hole but with plenty of windings it should be fine. If you have locking tuners always keep an eye on this.
what happens if i add oil
errrrr!
My notch broke does this work?
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great tip
Many thanks for this.
welcome
What do I do if the peg breaks (like with it snapping off) ? ;-;; pls help me I have no knowledge about fixing/repairing guitars.
depends what type it is
Dave Barlow it's an acoustic guitar
Then you need a replacement tuner :)
Uhm, is there any way that I can like fix it even for a short amount of time? Until I can get the replacement tuner? I'm sorry for I keep asking 😂
Why is it always the G string?
dunno
How well do you think powdered graphite would work? I keep a tube to sprinkle on my bridge saddles and nut when changing strings. I'm having the same problem with stiff Grover tuners on my new Les Paul.
dont know, try it and let me know.
Would WD 40 work?
I don't recommend it.
By grease do you mean cooking spray? Or bacon grease? Or grease off your head or what? Must have a single meaning in Britain.