Awesome vid Jason. This lens looks beautiful and for someone that has used the 24mm gm, I really like the light weight and smaller size. But.... I do like more money in my pocket!! So tough to pick!
I have the Viltrox 24mm 1.8f STM ASPH ED IF - DW RBW lens and it's small, lightweight, 1.8f, solid AF on the A7iv or FX30. Though I am curious how much more bokeh I'd get with a 24mm 1.4f
Great video, Jason! I have the GM already, however if I had to choose......I could not. Both are awesome lenses and for me, Sigma have 157% upped their game.
I've been very impressed with what Sigma has been putting out for mirrorless cameras. I have the 24-70mm f2.8 and 85mm F1.4, both are amazing lenses with fantastic build quality.
The Sony looked sharper across the frame on those zoom-ins right after the corner test zooms. It was definitely sharper in the corners. I assume they both stop down to be sharp across the frame, though, so maybe not toooo relevant. Especially for a 24mm. It's a gorgeous looking lens too, good lawd. Wouldn't kick that puppy out of bed. As usual, Sigma delivers like 95% of the performance at like 60% of the price. Great to have them always chipping away at that market share ⛏️⛏️
Hey Jason. I'm actually about to pull the trigger on one of these. When you say the Sony is slightly sharper, how much? I mean I'll pay the money if I need to. But I can use the savings to buy a DJI rs3 or something. I'd prefer a sharper image than getting the DJI but if it's splitting hairs, I won't bother. I mentioned this before, but I always watch your videos first anytime an embargo on a product lifts. Love your videos. You do an excellent job combining entertainment while still being detailed
I have sony Alpha a6600 camera which i use for cinematic videography and music videos and I'm a little confused which lens to buy whether to buy 24-105mm F4 or the 24-70mm F2.8 GM II?
I rather and keep my sony 24mm GM, looks more sharp and doesn’t make a distortion and chromatic aberration like that sigma. Looks nice but Sony is Sony, period. Great comparison.
Coming from a smart phone, it’s really jarring how every single shot in all of these reviews, the sky is blown out. It just depends on what you’re looking for out of a camera but to me that immediately makes it look like it’s a bad quality shot. hard to compete with a chip in a smart phone, though that’s doing 1 million processes at once. But it’s just kind of hard to be pleased seeing you running up to the camera and just seeing that there is literally no sky and that every single video that anybody does, there is no sky lol.
The sky is blown out because the exposure was set on the subject. It is true that smartphones have way more powerful processors, which allow computational photography not available in current dedicated cameras. But, cameras like this give total control to the user. Depending on what settings are used, the user can take advantage of the camera sensor’s dynamic range to recover detail in highlights/shadows in post processing (S-log for example). In other words, if he had wanted, he could have recovered detail in the sky. It was up to him. However, I do agree that these cameras need to have faster processors for computational photography to give more options/choices in the future. Now, if you don’t know anything about photography/videography and don’t want to learn or put a lot of work, you are better off with a smartphone. There is a reason why even on TH-cam, any high quality videos are made with dedicated cameras, not smartphones.
Awesome review, thanks! I wish that Sigma would release a 24mm for APS-C/m43, to fill the gap between the 16mm and 30mm of the crop-sensor Sigma f/1.4 trio (16/30/56).
Stay away from the Viltrox 24mm FE. Imaging is especially good for ASP-C, but I got a dud that quickly failed and Viltrox does not want to honor their warranty.
I think the real question is between the Sony 35 1.4 and Sigma 35 1.4 DN, you just skip them both and get the Sigma 24 1.4, take a step forward and save $$$. It’s almost same size and weight to GM 35. Why Sigma couldn’t make a smaller 35 1.4 is a question the universe may never know.
Oh man, I was clear on getting the Sony 35mm f1.8 instead of the 24mm GM because of the price difference. But with this, I'm now back to being torn between the 35mm and this! Which one should I get to pair with my 85mm f1.8 for portrait photos?
If you go for the 24mm f/1.4, you can mount it on an APS-C body and the crop factor will make it shoot like a 36mm f/2.1. I almost always carry an APS-C body to use as a teleconverter.
I love your videos and it looks like you used to live in my “hood,” as I recognize many of your city and building photos . Hope you are enjoying Tokyo.
PLEASE : I would like to come across someone having the curiosity to make "back-up" photos of every shot made with the 24mm (at f/1.4, and say f/5.6) also with the 20mm WITHOUT CHANGING DISTANCE to subject ! ..then crop those in post to match as close as possible to the framing of the 24mm shots. (Imagine You could finetune and store the finder's cropping to ouer taste..!) . How does bokkeh, distortion, grain, ..compare?
Ah! First do not get in a hurry to get a very wide aperture lens keep saving your $ for your camera brand lens. All the video guys want the blur/bokeh but the super aperture uses the outside edges of the lens glass meaning it has to be perfect. Example as a Milky Way photographer I bought the Sigma 14mm f/1.8 and using at 1.8 there were many coma's as well as elongated stars only using at f/4 and 5.6 did they get better. You can look at charts photographed and will not see this. It is best to shoot at stars to see problems. Also when using the NPF rules you will shoot at faster shutter speeds vs a f/4 lens so there will be less time for light gathering at that great wide aperture everyone talks about. Remember you are at the edges of the lens glass and anything can be bad in the cutting. Also the aperture parts bokeh is in the number of blades the more the better. AF is a great thing with speed but you will find the maker of a camera tweaks' its lenses better. Bottom line Sony has been at it with mirrorless longer than the new mirrorless makers and every lens goes through a lot and only comes out when it is ready, you may have to wait some. If you have the ability just check out the E 10-18mm f4 OSS of 2013 a 15-27mm in APS-C but can be used in full frame mode from 12mm to 18mm (18mm if you remove the light shield). I used at 12mm for Milky Way way before a mention of a 12mm in full frame. Stars are sharp and no elongated stars at even 30s. This is how well made Sony lenses are from the beginning Sony took over from Minolta and before lenses for Full Frame cameras, even the Full Frame 2014 FE16-35mm f/4 and then the 2017 FE 12-24mm f/4 had perfect stars. All I am stating is the long time keeping things perfect vs a third party low cost version, You get what you pay for and never say Cheap it takes a lot to make. Compare also to the Canon FD 24mm f/1.4 also good at astro/landscape if you want low cost manual focus.
Is few millimiters in size and 65 grams difference really enough to call Sigma heavier and bigger and pay double for the Sony though? Because I don't see any meaningful performance difference. The only reason I would choose Sony is to be sure it will be compatible with all Sony features and new bodies.
I was hoping that we would get a new E Mount 50mm since the old one is the size of a telescope. Two more wide angles, right after the last batch of wide angles...yawn.
On the iPhone 13 Pro, I’m having problems reviewing products because the whole game controller won’t just stay in focus. I was thinking that’s because of the aperture so if I get a nice camera like a mirror, less camera, I could just adjust the aperture. But now I’m not so sure, after watching videos like yours whenever you show the product, part of it looks blurry. I really don’t want that. I want it to look like it looks like for a real human. Whenever you look at a product you can see the whole thing just not the background.
ahhh i just bought the old version for my sony a7c... didn't know.. oh well i got it second hand in good condition for 400 dollars, and im a beginner with this as my first lens so should still be good hopefully.
I'll stick to the GM. A bit smaller and the 1.4 performance looks a bit cleaner across frame. The side by side color also looks nicer to me in the skin tones. And to be fair, used 24 GM can be found right around the $950-1000 so the price gap isn't as large.
The "Jason Vong quicky wicky". Sounds like that should be a premium service
It is 😏
15 day return policy. 👀
Awesome vid Jason. This lens looks beautiful and for someone that has used the 24mm gm, I really like the light weight and smaller size. But.... I do like more money in my pocket!! So tough to pick!
I really like the idea to play back the focus tests in slow-mo. It really helps the comparison. Another great video, JV.
I have the Viltrox 24mm 1.8f STM ASPH ED IF - DW RBW lens and it's small, lightweight, 1.8f, solid AF on the A7iv or FX30.
Though I am curious how much more bokeh I'd get with a 24mm 1.4f
Great video, Jason! I have the GM already, however if I had to choose......I could not. Both are awesome lenses and for me, Sigma have 157% upped their game.
Oh damn, double video release!!!!!
Double trouble.
I've been very impressed with what Sigma has been putting out for mirrorless cameras. I have the 24-70mm f2.8 and 85mm F1.4, both are amazing lenses with fantastic build quality.
Hello,
I'd like to know if the new sigma 24-70mm f2.8 have an issue with dust entering lens. If so, would you still recommend buying?
I have the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 on my A7iv and the AF is perfect. So good, smooth
Omg with this new update on the Sigma 24mm & 20mm lens. Then that means they’ll update the 50mm art lens too!!
The Sony looked sharper across the frame on those zoom-ins right after the corner test zooms. It was definitely sharper in the corners. I assume they both stop down to be sharp across the frame, though, so maybe not toooo relevant. Especially for a 24mm. It's a gorgeous looking lens too, good lawd. Wouldn't kick that puppy out of bed.
As usual, Sigma delivers like 95% of the performance at like 60% of the price. Great to have them always chipping away at that market share ⛏️⛏️
id love to see a 50 1.2 competitor with similar competitive pricing. sigmas close focusing is so good, id love to see it
Is that vignette only a problem during photo mode? Or video as well? Kind of thinking that if I do this, I might just jump in and get the Sony.
1:17 the length of the old lens seems to be the DSLR variant. The mirror less variant is significantly longer than the other two.
Hey Jason. I'm actually about to pull the trigger on one of these. When you say the Sony is slightly sharper, how much? I mean I'll pay the money if I need to. But I can use the savings to buy a DJI rs3 or something. I'd prefer a sharper image than getting the DJI but if it's splitting hairs, I won't bother. I mentioned this before, but I always watch your videos first anytime an embargo on a product lifts. Love your videos. You do an excellent job combining entertainment while still being detailed
Very nice review, really liked it. But would you say that the new 24mm Sigma is worth the buy if you already have the old version of it?
Yes for video af performance!!!
Thanks for doing comparison tests with the GM, Jason!
I gotchu!
I have sony Alpha a6600 camera which i use for cinematic videography and music videos and I'm a little confused which lens to buy whether to buy 24-105mm F4 or the 24-70mm F2.8 GM II?
What wide-angle would you recommend for video creators if both this sigma and the Sony 24mm are more for photo?
“Give you the Jason Vong quicky wicky “ is my new go to pick up line.
Kinda off topic, but do you think we're getting new Sony APSC Cameras soon?
I rather and keep my sony 24mm GM, looks more sharp and doesn’t make a distortion and chromatic aberration like that sigma. Looks nice but Sony is Sony, period. Great comparison.
Weird, Amazon has one for $650 that has that display thing on there but the description says it’s for Sony e mount mirrorless
Thanks for the comparison. I've been debating a semi wide angle option for my cameras!
I’m not gonna lie, if I didn’t have the 24mm GM I would have definitely bought this instead! Sigma took forever for this one!
Coming from a smart phone, it’s really jarring how every single shot in all of these reviews, the sky is blown out. It just depends on what you’re looking for out of a camera but to me that immediately makes it look like it’s a bad quality shot. hard to compete with a chip in a smart phone, though that’s doing 1 million processes at once. But it’s just kind of hard to be pleased seeing you running up to the camera and just seeing that there is literally no sky and that every single video that anybody does, there is no sky lol.
The sky is blown out because the exposure was set on the subject. It is true that smartphones have way more powerful processors, which allow computational photography not available in current dedicated cameras. But, cameras like this give total control to the user. Depending on what settings are used, the user can take advantage of the camera sensor’s dynamic range to recover detail in highlights/shadows in post processing (S-log for example). In other words, if he had wanted, he could have recovered detail in the sky. It was up to him. However, I do agree that these cameras need to have faster processors for computational photography to give more options/choices in the future. Now, if you don’t know anything about photography/videography and don’t want to learn or put a lot of work, you are better off with a smartphone. There is a reason why even on TH-cam, any high quality videos are made with dedicated cameras, not smartphones.
I'm only here for the Jason Vong smiles in the focus tests. 😏
And sweaty face too!
The only ones I see for sale are 665g?
Do either of them have linear manual focus? Or are they both focus by wire?
great video! I was wondering have you tried the sigma 24mm F1.4 on the crane m3?
No. As I mentioned in the video, it will require a bigger gimbal unfortunately😭😭
Awesome review, thanks!
I wish that Sigma would release a 24mm for APS-C/m43, to fill the gap between the 16mm and 30mm of the crop-sensor Sigma f/1.4 trio (16/30/56).
what's stopping you from using this on apsc?? or you want 24mm ff equivalent on apsc? but 16mm is about 24mm on apsc? What exactly do you want lol
Stay away from the Viltrox 24mm FE. Imaging is especially good for ASP-C, but I got a dud that quickly failed and Viltrox does not want to honor their warranty.
Thank for review ☺️
The Vong Opinion always handy 🙌 Now I need to think if I want to upgrade from my F1.4 24mm Art Lens to this new one … 🤣
I think the real question is between the Sony 35 1.4 and Sigma 35 1.4 DN, you just skip them both and get the Sigma 24 1.4, take a step forward and save $$$. It’s almost same size and weight to GM 35. Why Sigma couldn’t make a smaller 35 1.4 is a question the universe may never know.
Yeah, this. Stopped having headaches choosing between the two 35s and got the sigma 24 😂
Oh man, I was clear on getting the Sony 35mm f1.8 instead of the 24mm GM because of the price difference. But with this, I'm now back to being torn between the 35mm and this! Which one should I get to pair with my 85mm f1.8 for portrait photos?
24-50-105 or 20-35-85, these are the ideal combos.
Go for 24 man, i have 35 and 85 about, switching to 24
If you go for the 24mm f/1.4, you can mount it on an APS-C body and the crop factor will make it shoot like a 36mm f/2.1. I almost always carry an APS-C body to use as a teleconverter.
I love your videos and it looks like you used to live in my “hood,” as I recognize many of your city and building photos . Hope you are enjoying Tokyo.
So for the difference in price between the Sigma and the G-master, you could get the Sigma 70mm f2.8 DG Macro, too? Cool!
PLEASE : I would like to come across someone having the curiosity to make "back-up" photos of every shot made with the 24mm (at f/1.4, and say f/5.6) also with the 20mm WITHOUT CHANGING DISTANCE to subject ! ..then crop those in post to match as close as possible to the framing of the 24mm shots.
(Imagine You could finetune and store the finder's cropping to ouer taste..!) . How does bokkeh, distortion, grain, ..compare?
There is a Samyang 1.8…I wonder what you would say about it.
Am waiting for 50mm dgdn
Ah! First do not get in a hurry to get a very wide aperture lens keep saving your $ for your camera brand lens. All the video guys want the blur/bokeh but the super aperture uses the outside edges of the lens glass meaning it has to be perfect. Example as a Milky Way photographer I bought the Sigma 14mm f/1.8 and using at 1.8 there were many coma's as well as elongated stars only using at f/4 and 5.6 did they get better. You can look at charts photographed and will not see this. It is best to shoot at stars to see problems. Also when using the NPF rules you will shoot at faster shutter speeds vs a f/4 lens so there will be less time for light gathering at that great wide aperture everyone talks about. Remember you are at the edges of the lens glass and anything can be bad in the cutting. Also the aperture parts bokeh is in the number of blades the more the better. AF is a great thing with speed but you will find the maker of a camera tweaks' its lenses better. Bottom line Sony has been at it with mirrorless longer than the new mirrorless makers and every lens goes through a lot and only comes out when it is ready, you may have to wait some. If you have the ability just check out the E 10-18mm f4 OSS of 2013 a 15-27mm in APS-C but can be used in full frame mode from 12mm to 18mm (18mm if you remove the light shield). I used at 12mm for Milky Way way before a mention of a 12mm in full frame. Stars are sharp and no elongated stars at even 30s. This is how well made Sony lenses are from the beginning Sony took over from Minolta and before lenses for Full Frame cameras, even the Full Frame 2014 FE16-35mm f/4 and then the 2017 FE 12-24mm f/4 had perfect stars. All I am stating is the long time keeping things perfect vs a third party low cost version, You get what you pay for and never say Cheap it takes a lot to make. Compare also to the Canon FD 24mm f/1.4 also good at astro/landscape if you want low cost manual focus.
Wait a second, is that he city hall from Parks & Rec?!
I want to get the Sony 24mm GMaster, but I have a feeling Sony might release a new one soon? Anyone have any thoughts?
I have the 24 GM and in my opinion there wouldn’t be much incentive for a refresh - it’s perfect.
1.2 will be coming just like the 50mm
How to use fx30
Is few millimiters in size and 65 grams difference really enough to call Sigma heavier and bigger and pay double for the Sony though? Because I don't see any meaningful performance difference. The only reason I would choose Sony is to be sure it will be compatible with all Sony features and new bodies.
Good review
Two videos at once! 😳
I was hoping that we would get a new E Mount 50mm since the old one is the size of a telescope. Two more wide angles, right after the last batch of wide angles...yawn.
Me too!
I just need 14mm 1.4 with 72 filter thread
Give us the contemporary 24mm 1.4 sigma. Just do it
Sony fe or sony apsc?
obviously full frame
How does this stack up to the Sony G
On the iPhone 13 Pro, I’m having problems reviewing products because the whole game controller won’t just stay in focus. I was thinking that’s because of the aperture so if I get a nice camera like a mirror, less camera, I could just adjust the aperture. But now I’m not so sure, after watching videos like yours whenever you show the product, part of it looks blurry. I really don’t want that. I want it to look like it looks like for a real human. Whenever you look at a product you can see the whole thing just not the background.
Thank you man, you saved me from buying the wrong Sigma lens
ahhh i just bought the old version for my sony a7c... didn't know.. oh well i got it second hand in good condition for 400 dollars, and im a beginner with this as my first lens so should still be good hopefully.
New toy for astroooooo 🤩
QUICKIE WIKI!!! LOL
In and out!
Anything about the R mount?
dont expect canon rf mount unless canon opens their mount policy to the 3rd party company🤣🤣🤣
I'll stick to the GM. A bit smaller and the 1.4 performance looks a bit cleaner across frame. The side by side color also looks nicer to me in the skin tones.
And to be fair, used 24 GM can be found right around the $950-1000 so the price gap isn't as large.
Buy why would I spend 1000 used when it's 800 brand new and better af performance
Thanks for reminding me that I can find this lens for $1000 used!
@@IWTBFOY bugging
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sigma is still heavy as fuck?
Just get a 24mm 1.4 GM second hand
How do you all think the Sony 24 mm G fits into this conversation?
I need a lens great for video and photography?
Sounds like the Sony is still unbeatable.
For $600 more it better be, gonna pick the Sigma cause I wouldn't tell the difference except for the Bokeh.
Nope! Sony all the way.
Oh man… I just bought the sony 24mm… i feel I was ripped of now, when I see the price for the new sigma
It's amazing how good GM is cause it's much much older lens and is still better than that Sigma Art
No ! The Sony 24mm 1.4 GM are still the best 24mm Lens !
Pasadena is so boring to me
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