I have the brushless version,and the entire 6s Arrma line up,a JLB Cheetah and a 3s Typhon,the Losi is the most fun,almost impossible to break,when it comes to fun ,these things are the best bang for the $$$$$,hands down!
Thinking on getting one to bash and race on weekends think it will hold up. Looking at the losi cause son had a slash before and I know already the weakpoints on a slash. Thinking this might do better
It will hold up,I've been bashing it hard at skatepark for two years, only thing that's broke is a hinge pin,it'll do 50mph out of the box,get one you won't be sorry.
I used to be a subscriber of RC Driver magazine back in the day! (3 first years of publishing) I definitely see/feel the same experiences from back then in your reviews 👍🏼 Hopefully you keep reviewing rc for a long time, new subscriber here thanks Greg and have fun budd! ✌🏼😎👍🏼
I bought one took it straight to are local indoor carpet track didn't make no adjustments to it.drove well like many ready to runs servo a lil slow over rall great truck.I got hit head on from another driver at full speed and nothing broke,jumps well,lil body roll in tight turns but that can be tune great truck perfect for 17.5 stock class on a budget
For the most part, this RC checks all the boxes. LCG Chassis, metal trans, 2WD. The body shape it has is just okay for me and I wish they wouldn't have done the bottom mounted battery thing. But I can get over that stuff and the body can be changed. If I were to pick this up, it'd probably be the brushless version at $250 is a pretty good price. I think this brushed version goes for $189 so I think the step up would be well worth it.
@@mojaverc1585 oh yeah, I noticed that when Mine on 2s the front lifts up a little bit, I didnt think about what it would be like on 3s, I'll have to think of something to weigh it down a bit.
TL;DR: The electronics, all of them, are junk. Spend a few more bucks on eBay and get a Hobbywing ESC, a second-hand Traxxas RTR servo, and a second-hand Titan 550. Otherwise, a great first truck! My friends and I bought three of these to start learning SCT racing. Right out of the box, my servo was completely gacked. Wouldn't turn left anywhere near as much as it could turn right. I removed it, re-centered it just in case, checked my endpoints/dual rate/etc, and no. Something internally must be broken or misaligned. Whatever, it's cheap servo, I replaced it with a spare I had laying around. No big deal. Twenty minutes into race and chill and one of the trucks burns a motor. Two minutes after that, another truck fries the ESC. Mine is the only one still running, but again, my servo was junk from the box. If it were just the one truck that had an issue so early, I could chalk it up to a fluke. Sometimes even the best, most top shelf brands let the occasional turd slip through quality control. But all three of our trucks, on the same day, within an hour? For context, were on an indoor green carpet track. We were all running the same 2s 25c Venom 5000mah lipo hardpack, and we weren't bashing them. We bumped into one another few times, yeah, because we're noobs to racing, but not to RC. While they still ran, they all drove beautifully, particularly for the price. I don't know who to point a finger at here. Horizon? Losi? I dunno. We're not even mad, just disappointed. Cheapo Hobbywing electronics and spares bin servos cost pennies, so it's not that big a deal to us. But imagine being totally new to the hobby and this is your first truck. Back to the hobby shop for a return or warranty repair. I feel bad for the kid who gets this as their first hobby grade RC. Much like the old HPI E10 was for me, I can imagine it would almost immediately dampen their enthusiasm for the hobby.
@Stephen Powell currently my only running rc is my granite blx. I need to buy a few missing parts for my revo 3.3. I have an hpi mini trophy truck that has dead electronics. One day I'll get those 2 up and running. The hpi will never get bashed again.
The spindly looking front end looks like toothpicks ready to snap first cartwheel. 4wd are so much tougher just because of the lower control arm and hub. The only 2wd I would get is a sand rail, like a gas rovan, or a kyosho scorpion/ beetle.
@@A_Man_In_His_Van I've crashed my 22s many many times and had super hard landings in a skatepark and on my local track and it's a very very durable truck the plastics aren't brittle so they hold up to big hits.
@@A_Man_In_His_Van "the spindly front end is going to snap" was my thought exactly when I received my Team Associated Trophy Rat, but I've been running it for over a year now and so far so good. I've performed numerous cartwheels with it and have clipped various fence, mailbox, and sign posts all with no damage. I don't know about the 22S, but I can verify the ruggedness of the Trophy Rat. Great rig!
@LUKEOUTDOORSthat would be awesome, however, at the moment I don't have a real basher. All i have is a cheap Chinese brushless truck, looking for a senton or slash
Theres one thing id like to see on this that its missing n most sct have is the nerf bars coming off the chassis n supports the sides of the body but other then that it dont look bad
I have the magnaflow version which was brushed when I bought it brand new. I got a castle 3800sct on 2s and 3s and I’ve beaten the living shit out of this thing literally jumped it flat out on 3s and it hasn’t broken once lol
If you were asking a general question you should have either a low voltage alarm or a cutoff on the esc if you are using a lipo battery (I usually cutoff around 3.4v/cell and my batteries have lasted for a few years now but 3.2v/cell is probably the lowest you want to go). As for this truck in particular I'm not sure if the esc has a low voltage cutoff, but you can probably find the manual for it online which should tell you if it does or not.
Nice to see so many companies catching up to traxxas. And with good prices too. I know Losi has always been good but I am seeing more and more cheap trucks that are better than expensive traxxas type trucks.
These are nice rtr trucks..... brushed setup only lasted 10 minutes before I swapped it with a traxxas vxl combo I had in my parts stash.... much better with brushless
Loved it at first when I got mine. Myself and 2 friends got them mine died on our 2nd outing esc burnt up on a 2s lipo. None of ours run right now all went out on the same day on a track.
Could anyone give me some advise I’m putting a 3300kv brushless system in mine does anyone know what pitch and tooth pinion should run cheers in advance
For the price? Bash it. Depends on parts availability though. Might be better off getting a Traxxas Slash for better parts swapping when you do inevitably break it.
I would race it make it really fast and then drive around my town and if it gets bashed it does but I’m not gonna purposely base it yes I would hit jumps but nothing really crazy
I like Losi but this thing isn't adjustable at all really. No toe and camber? Most other SCT trucks like this will be able to be set up more. That's a bummer.
That's fair. I don't know what happened in your case but that's a MT & 4WD as you know. Bigger tires with more strain on the servo, heavier, more parts to break. etc. Why I'm a 2WD guy. Simply less to break.
for the money I would take a slash 2wd over this... to many issues with batt door and the ESC are made with the lowest standards and they just don't last. also No receiver box. water resistant is questionable. don't dare hit a puddle.
I have the brushless version,and the entire 6s Arrma line up,a JLB Cheetah and a 3s Typhon,the Losi is the most fun,almost impossible to break,when it comes to fun ,these things are the best bang for the $$$$$,hands down!
Thinking on getting one to bash and race on weekends think it will hold up. Looking at the losi cause son had a slash before and I know already the weakpoints on a slash.
Thinking this might do better
It will hold up,I've been bashing it hard at skatepark for two years, only thing that's broke is a hinge pin,it'll do 50mph out of the box,get one you won't be sorry.
I’d play with it...
That’s why I like RC, for fun.
yeah... its all about fun! while driving, crashing, repairing it!
I'd probably Rash it. No, Brace it. I don't know.
Scale Builder's Guild you should go see a doctor about that.
Awesome truck. Super fast around the local track and top notch durability.
I used to be a subscriber of RC Driver magazine back in the day! (3 first years of publishing) I definitely see/feel the same experiences from back then in your reviews 👍🏼
Hopefully you keep reviewing rc for a long time, new subscriber here thanks Greg and have fun budd!
✌🏼😎👍🏼
I bought one took it straight to are local indoor carpet track didn't make no adjustments to it.drove well like many ready to runs servo a lil slow over rall great truck.I got hit head on from another driver at full speed and nothing broke,jumps well,lil body roll in tight turns but that can be tune great truck perfect for 17.5 stock class on a budget
For the most part, this RC checks all the boxes. LCG Chassis, metal trans, 2WD. The body shape it has is just okay for me and I wish they wouldn't have done the bottom mounted battery thing. But I can get over that stuff and the body can be changed. If I were to pick this up, it'd probably be the brushless version at $250 is a pretty good price. I think this brushed version goes for $189 so I think the step up would be well worth it.
Must say I'm quite impressed with the durability. Much better than I thought when starting off with this review.
Igot one and it ublevble how strong and fast it is i was beting cars that were more fasterthan it
I just got one for my birthday and its just sitting there like the elf on the shelf
Truck looks awesome have a Traxxas and a Redcat now o want a Losi
This reminds me of the 2wd 1/10 ecx ruckus. Ah good memories.
Facts, I still got my 4x4 torment sct. Amazing little things they are
@@kahnmchugh9334 you can beat the crap out of them
@@mojaverc1585 definitely, I upgraded to brushless motor a while ago now and with a 2s lipo I've got it to around 70km cant wait for a 3s
@@kahnmchugh9334 yeah I ran mine on 3s when it was still in one piece. The only problem was the front end was too light and it didn’t have enough grip
@@mojaverc1585 oh yeah, I noticed that when Mine on 2s the front lifts up a little bit, I didnt think about what it would be like on 3s, I'll have to think of something to weigh it down a bit.
Nice truck I like the look of that body
Thank you for your informative video. Just bought one and was curious about batteries and the servo. Answered my questions. Thanks again.
Bruh the black body one on Amazon 219$ but yellow one is 189$
TL;DR: The electronics, all of them, are junk. Spend a few more bucks on eBay and get a Hobbywing ESC, a second-hand Traxxas RTR servo, and a second-hand Titan 550. Otherwise, a great first truck!
My friends and I bought three of these to start learning SCT racing. Right out of the box, my servo was completely gacked. Wouldn't turn left anywhere near as much as it could turn right. I removed it, re-centered it just in case, checked my endpoints/dual rate/etc, and no. Something internally must be broken or misaligned. Whatever, it's cheap servo, I replaced it with a spare I had laying around. No big deal.
Twenty minutes into race and chill and one of the trucks burns a motor. Two minutes after that, another truck fries the ESC. Mine is the only one still running, but again, my servo was junk from the box.
If it were just the one truck that had an issue so early, I could chalk it up to a fluke. Sometimes even the best, most top shelf brands let the occasional turd slip through quality control. But all three of our trucks, on the same day, within an hour? For context, were on an indoor green carpet track. We were all running the same 2s 25c Venom 5000mah lipo hardpack, and we weren't bashing them. We bumped into one another few times, yeah, because we're noobs to racing, but not to RC. While they still ran, they all drove beautifully, particularly for the price.
I don't know who to point a finger at here. Horizon? Losi? I dunno. We're not even mad, just disappointed. Cheapo Hobbywing electronics and spares bin servos cost pennies, so it's not that big a deal to us. But imagine being totally new to the hobby and this is your first truck. Back to the hobby shop for a return or warranty repair. I feel bad for the kid who gets this as their first hobby grade RC. Much like the old HPI E10 was for me, I can imagine it would almost immediately dampen their enthusiasm for the hobby.
Hobbywing actually makes good stuff.
@@cwatson42785 Yeah, I usually run their brushed ESCs in all my Tamiya re-releases and some of my crawlers.
@@addiemonsterrc3990 yeah I love their escs. I got a few 120amp and have been really good. I think they are just affordable and great quality.
i have a max 10 it’s a little weak at bottom end and stall really easy but a lot of power on the top
@@addiemonsterrc3990 Hey one thing I didn't get about your comment was "buy a second hand 550 titan"??? Aren't they like 15$ new? 🤣🤣😁
My 22 sct is perfect never broke 1 part in 4 years. Last week i took it out of the box 😉
hey them old school kickers THUMPED! lol great review as always thanx
losi seems to be a good brand for speed
Idk if I would race or bash it but I can say with absolute certainty I will break it.
@Stephen Powell currently my only running rc is my granite blx. I need to buy a few missing parts for my revo 3.3. I have an hpi mini trophy truck that has dead electronics. One day I'll get those 2 up and running. The hpi will never get bashed again.
The spindly looking front end looks like toothpicks ready to snap first cartwheel. 4wd are so much tougher just because of the lower control arm and hub. The only 2wd I would get is a sand rail, like a gas rovan, or a kyosho scorpion/ beetle.
@@A_Man_In_His_Van I've crashed my 22s many many times and had super hard landings in a skatepark and on my local track and it's a very very durable truck the plastics aren't brittle so they hold up to big hits.
@@A_Man_In_His_Van "the spindly front end is going to snap" was my thought exactly when I received my Team Associated Trophy Rat, but I've been running it for over a year now and so far so good. I've performed numerous cartwheels with it and have clipped various fence, mailbox, and sign posts all with no damage. I don't know about the 22S, but I can verify the ruggedness of the Trophy Rat. Great rig!
I recommend it. On a 3s it's uncontrollable on the dirt or gravel...
I'd like to know what the top speed is.. how you drove it
Id love to throw some drift wheels and tires on there
hey just realized you raced it at rc madness! thats like an hour from me!
@LUKEOUTDOORSthat would be awesome, however, at the moment I don't have a real basher. All i have is a cheap Chinese brushless truck, looking for a senton or slash
Greg I also bumped the KIcker Competition sub woffers back in the day, also great review n run bro!
Theres one thing id like to see on this that its missing n most sct have is the nerf bars coming off the chassis n supports the sides of the body but other then that it dont look bad
I love short course rc’s, any brand
Great video and bashing
What is the difference between
Short course trucks
Stadium trucks
Desert runner trucks
Woth your experience if you were going to pick one to buy at the 199 price point what would you choose. This or a slash?
Better option than a slash? Kinda want a 2wd beater again. I guess the only thing the slash has over it is customization.
The servo in this truck is horrendous, even compared to a traxxas.
@@unc13buck Yeah, I'm gonna get another 2wd beater slash. I feel like Losi discontinues trucks too often.
Awesome video, hey would a traxxas 3s vxl motor fit in here. I want this but i want it in brushless
Yeah it will. It you will have to find a way to affix the esc
I have the magnaflow version which was brushed when I bought it brand new. I got a castle 3800sct on 2s and 3s and I’ve beaten the living shit out of this thing literally jumped it flat out on 3s and it hasn’t broken once lol
Hey how many teeth is the stock pinion and included speed pinion?
I wish losi would still make a 22sct kit version in rear motor for us outdoor racers because mid motor is not the best for slick outdoor tracks
Is it any differense with the MagnaFlow and Kicker?
Just a different body! :)
Nice truck but I was wondering if you need a low voltage alarm for a lipo battery
If you were asking a general question you should have either a low voltage alarm or a cutoff on the esc if you are using a lipo battery (I usually cutoff around 3.4v/cell and my batteries have lasted for a few years now but 3.2v/cell is probably the lowest you want to go). As for this truck in particular I'm not sure if the esc has a low voltage cutoff, but you can probably find the manual for it online which should tell you if it does or not.
Nice to see so many companies catching up to traxxas. And with good prices too. I know Losi has always been good but I am seeing more and more cheap trucks that are better than expensive traxxas type trucks.
Yeah at the same price as a brushed 2WD slash, I for the life of me can't figure out why someone would pick that over this. Simply a better platform.
Do you prefer this or the slash VXL?
I don't need it but I want it
Chips? Aren't they jumpers for battery type?
Is there such thing as a 22s battery
These are nice rtr trucks..... brushed setup only lasted 10 minutes before I swapped it with a traxxas vxl combo I had in my parts stash.... much better with brushless
I had a brushless sitting around and what's cool I changed out all the end link arms as well.
Cool Greg!
I just bought one. I love the thing, I will race this in a stock Short course class. I will leave the daily beatings for the Slash. Lol
How long does it last
Can you add lights to these?
I wonder how it would hold up to 3 S?
Iv has this truck for months and just now seeing reviews on it
Loved it at first when I got mine. Myself and 2 friends got them mine died on our 2nd outing esc burnt up on a 2s lipo. None of ours run right now all went out on the same day on a track.
Richard Goetschius mines ran great for months
@@wildmangeorgesrcchannel6916 I'm hoping it was just a fluke but not a hard fix or one that breaks the bank either
@@richardgoetschius4284 hows it been Richard?
I just got this and want to upgrade the motor.Any suggestions?
Where is your shop located? I'm in ma
Have you tried the brushless losi maxxis?🤔
Also nice video!😉👍
Hey love that body wonder if it would fit a arrma senton
Does any aluminum chassis upgrade available?
How fast does it go
I’m building a mudboss circle track racer out of mine
My reverse/break does not work for my rc car which is the same version of this rc cqr
Is that a Baja try raptor on the left?
Can you Please show a video on how to remove the rear end.
Could anyone give me some advise I’m putting a 3300kv brushless system in mine does anyone know what pitch and tooth pinion should run cheers in advance
Basher. The camber and toe links being non adjustable will keep alot of ppl from getting bc thwy wont wanna buy adj. Ones
Not every cars a basher you know that right
Wait, what does "a basher style SCT" even mean? based on the same geometry and features, yet more plastic-y?
Probably that its so cheap you won't mind beating the brakes off it....
@@cwatson42785 I really dislike the whole slide towards throwaway RC trucks..
@@paulmccarter908 i hear ya Paul. This truck does seem rather fragile.
Lozi?
For the price? Bash it. Depends on parts availability though. Might be better off getting a Traxxas Slash for better parts swapping when you do inevitably break it.
There no there ain't no typo left on the dirt
Can u make some review on HSP 94702
Finally idk why company’s don’t do that on all waterproof cars it doesn’t make sense a waterproof car isn’t waterproof with metal shielded bearings
Use a Guitar pick to open battery door.
Had one, burned motor up after first run. Wasnt real bad but liked my sc10 more
H to H 22s vs ecx torment????
and for 10 bucks more get the tenacity sct 4x4 brushed
I would race it make it really fast and then drive around my town and if it gets bashed it does but I’m not gonna purposely base it yes I would hit jumps but nothing really crazy
Do they have a 4wd version Gregg?
Nope only in 2wd
I like Losi but this thing isn't adjustable at all really. No toe and camber? Most other SCT trucks like this will be able to be set up more. That's a bummer.
9:58 oh no, my pkcell
Is this more durable than the traxxas slash?
its super good, but the slash is made to withstand the hardest blows :)
It will brake if you hit a brick wall at 30 lol
See 5his looks a lot better than that hpi jumpshot or whatever.
And like 200 bucks cheaper
If this Losi had turnbuckles, how would you compare it to a Slash 2wd?
Xrayray 3D it’s like a slash with a low cg chassy
If you want a crappy 2wd sct just get a 2wd slash.
Rather have a slash than any other 2wd short course truck honestly
No and it’s not crappy broooo
I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the Losi tenacity Mt. So don't think I'll be buying anything Losi for a while.
That's fair. I don't know what happened in your case but that's a MT & 4WD as you know. Bigger tires with more strain on the servo, heavier, more parts to break. etc. Why I'm a 2WD guy. Simply less to break.
Man that things slow. Seems like it needs toi many upgrades right out of the box to make it really fun
Riley Goodenough it’s actually quick for brushed
That servo is terrible, C'mon Losi...
for the money I would take a slash 2wd over this... to many issues with batt door and the ESC are made with the lowest standards and they just don't last. also No receiver box. water resistant is questionable. don't dare hit a puddle.
I would not buy this or recommend this truck to anyone period. The servo saver is too weak, so when you tighten it you blow up the pathetic servo.
Lost me at brushed motor
Michael Mack this thing is quick for box stock