The boardroom scene was better but still an interesting scene. Shazam might be one of the few movies that did reshoots and still managed to make the movie work.
Every big movie does reshoots. Even Endgame did them. It’s common practice now. The question is whether they are basically changing the entire movie or improving what is already there. The latter is fine, the former is not.
ecgameplayer Or could be a reference to angels and demons all the people in the room are wearing white and sivana is wearing black while also caring demons inside him
Honestly the combination of this scene and the actual scene would’ve been the perfect scene. He comes back home on Christmas to release the sins and let them feast upon his family. Maybe his dad could be dying from his wounds to listen to the speech he gives at the end
I personally believe he blasted them to kill the family himself, rather let the sins do it themselves. But yeah, would've been nice for the Dad to hear the speech and die from Greed.
XStriker 101 that’s kinda why I preferred the sins kill the family. Sivana isn’t in control and the sins aren’t there to help him, just pretend that they are while using him to do whatever they want. In the revenge scene, the sins are just feeding. It just happens to be on the people Sivana wanted to kill, along with everyone else in the room. In this deleted scene, he’s just using their powers for his own reasons
I think I like this scene more than the actual one. It show how psychotic and unhinged Thaddeus has become, and makes him a more terrifying and interesting villain.
@@jaronmeshileichenbaum9934 dudes white if you didn't know that already and na very likely the black sheep thing since that's an older euphemism for the outcast of the family and he felt that and they wanted to point that out make more since but randy is also likely right since it can infact be taken the way of him being a villain and that stands out from plain citizens
That doesn't justify his actions though. He killed a lot of people. Just because he had a motivation doesn't make it right. I seem to remember a certain German who had a rough upbringing, but did that make what he did right?
I like the boardroom scene better, but there's a few things I like better about this one. Namely, the revelation of "the wizard finding a champion" feels a little less abrupt.
Ooooh see now....this is tricky On the one hand the original scene has better actors for the father and Sid. And i really did love the spontaneous erratic part where Thaddeus tossed Sid out of the window and the sins came out and ate everybody and the yelling on the misty doors and the father scene where he was devoured by Greed..... plus the part in the elevator was pretty cool. But here we get a much better payoff for Sid. and the part where the doorman is like FTSIO! And where Thad reveals that he was never truly accepted in the family. Plus i like how the Sins appear in his reflection instead of out in the open.
It's clear they filmed this scene early, before they got all the actors probably, and without any character development for the family, and everything about them is said in (over)exposition by Sivana. Also they toned down the powers, which makes sense - I always get irked whenever some bad guy in some movie is super-powerful that can snap people out of existence, but when confronting friends of the heroes they always have to chase them in a silly way or harmlessly render them unconscious.
@@godofevil9468 the snap in that movie was a big thing, not casually disintegrating people just because they got too close. I'm talking about baddies that kill instantly everyone except important characters.
@@SergioLeRoux Hmmmmmm.......I still don't know... I'm sure some people might argue that the villain wants to do more damage to the main characters and just get rid of any other distractions. BUT in the larger scope i see your point.
the idea was that the seven deadly sins corrupt and destroy everything they touch, turning it to ash...However becasue billy is the champion his power can survive the sins touch..regular humans cannot.
Doctor Sivana went from being your stereotypical mad scientist to a man disgusted by his weakness and so became the modern equivalent of the evil sorcerer archetype (which fits better with Shazam powers being made of magic).
Animated Aaron right oh ok, I see what your point, Shazam has only had one movie that has one villain which is Dr Sivana, I usually like a movie that’s mainly focused one character and the other one
I just realized the chilling significance of Sivana quoting Tiny Tim. It's a sense that back in the prologue, he was once like Tiny Tim. But now, after years spent with his toxic family, he's become as cold and empty as Scrooge, speaking with the ghosts of his past
I can see why they decided to go with the office scene instead of this one. - First, we already saw the scientist turn to dust which already reveals that kind of power. Using this is isn’t as interesting as the sins because of that. - Second, the office scene allowed to better reveal the seven deadly sins and what power they endure. Without it, we wouldn’t truly understand how powerful Dr. Sivana is. - Third, this scene didn’t really fit the tone of the scene before and after this one. Before, we see Darla, Billy, and Freddy going to bed and literally says “goodnight,” helping end of the scene and setting. And after, they cut to the school scene where the truck disappears which wouldn’t be a good scene to cut to for the next day without the office scene.
I can kinda see why they changed this scene, I guess they wanted to use the original actor for the father, and use an actor that looks similar to sid if he was 50, and probably thought that a boardroom would be more dramatic than a Christmas party, so to show thaddeus get his revenge, he destroys everything his father achieved and starts out by being the bigger Man this time by using their wrath's and abuse against them.
I think this is the reason why the first film was better than the second film, but liked it anyways, despite the fact that this wasn't used in the first film. The first film had scenes that were dark and at times scary, which contrast with the comedy. They create a sense of stakes and threat to the protagonist. Had vaguely occult horror element at times. I wonder if executive meddling affected how the second film style was different.
Dr. Sivana is such a great villian that he is what Lex Luthor should've been. Mark Strong would've played a great Lex Luthor if the writers thought it up. He was just that great.
I prefer the final scenes, his family was "too nice" in the table scene and that makes Dr. Sivana more vindictive, less sympathetic. But his father and brother were much more obnoxius in the car scene, making you feel less bad for them and understand better Sivana's lust for power.
Sivana correctly tells Sid the outlook from the 8 ball before he dies. One last bit of dark humor with a punchline. In the boardroom scene that makes the cut, he throws him out the window before he reads the 8 ball, which is pointless.
Every father wpuld be proud in how smart and intelligent sivana was but if his father looked for him to be tough like the brother where will that get him
Terlon Nannister Plus the 7 Deadly sins had colors on their skins. For example Wrath is the red one. Too bad they didn't put the color on the sins, That would've looked cool
I like this and the alternate opening that goes with it better than the actual ones. Fits the tone of the movie better. Less dark and horror movie like.
Hybschtorie remember in the beginning where he was in a car they had it to where he was at a his house and his family were eating then he got chased by his brother cause he was holding that 8 ball thing and he went to the elevator and went to the Shazam place then he wasn’t worthy so he went back to the elevator and his dad I think fell from the stairs this is the deleted scene and just like the board room they were gonna use this for the elevator scene it was deleted cause it was horrible or like cgi and that stuff was probably unfinished for the elevator scene
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The boardroom scene was better but still an interesting scene. Shazam might be one of the few movies that did reshoots and still managed to make the movie work.
Burning Exeter Every movie that can afford to, does reshoots
Honestly ageee but I like elements of this scene (like the setting)
Feel a merger would be fun to see
Every big movie does reshoots. Even Endgame did them. It’s common practice now. The question is whether they are basically changing the entire movie or improving what is already there. The latter is fine, the former is not.
The boardroom scene had a sin bite a guy's head off. It showed me that this is going to be a dark movie even though the trailers showed us otherwise.
almost every movie have re-shoots.
Moral of the story: Never go to parties of ppl who ignore their kids.
@Langdon Alger then just run out if the party
@@michaeljosephjackson2364 You think is dat easy if your inside and your frozen still and your rich and you have no sense of Knowing what things to do
But that means no parties..... as ones like that are only held by ignoring the kids
He went for revenge.
I like the contrast: Everyone else is in white, while Sivana is wearing black.
Obvious black sheep reference
@@ecgameplayer noice!
ecgameplayer Or could be a reference to angels and demons all the people in the room are wearing white and sivana is wearing black while also caring demons inside him
@@thequeensandkings7391 could be.
A little too on the nose for me. I can see why they replaced this scene.
Honestly the combination of this scene and the actual scene would’ve been the perfect scene. He comes back home on Christmas to release the sins and let them feast upon his family. Maybe his dad could be dying from his wounds to listen to the speech he gives at the end
I like the idea of in the scene one of the sins tosses old man Sivana so we see him just trying to crawl away before Sivana’s tirade
I personally believe he blasted them to kill the family himself, rather let the sins do it themselves. But yeah, would've been nice for the Dad to hear the speech and die from Greed.
XStriker 101 that’s kinda why I preferred the sins kill the family. Sivana isn’t in control and the sins aren’t there to help him, just pretend that they are while using him to do whatever they want. In the revenge scene, the sins are just feeding. It just happens to be on the people Sivana wanted to kill, along with everyone else in the room. In this deleted scene, he’s just using their powers for his own reasons
What is the point of a monologue if there is nobody alive to listen
I think I like this scene more than the actual one. It show how psychotic and unhinged Thaddeus has become, and makes him a more terrifying and interesting villain.
"...And give you all
what you deserve."
Joker vibes here
th-cam.com/video/uWI4qxongpQ/w-d-xo.html
I have come this season of giving to give you
WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE
It was released in the same year interestingly enough
Horror movie directors make the best comedies and comedy directors make the best thrillers
Lesson learned: Never ever neglect your son.
Or daughter bitch .
YOU HEAR THAT, DAD!!!
@Gutsy bro I don't think it was an insult I think he was just caught up in the moment of the video😂
Traumatic childhoods seem to be common in backgrounds of notorious serial killers.
Male MUTO男性無音 Or more specifically, never waste time blaming your child for something they ultimately weren’t responsible for?
I'm glad he dressed in black and everyone else dressed in white so I know he's the villain
More like because he was the black sheep in the family
Crimsonreaper more like racial hatred towards the colour white
@@jaronmeshileichenbaum9934 dudes white if you didn't know that already and na very likely the black sheep thing since that's an older euphemism for the outcast of the family and he felt that and they wanted to point that out make more since but randy is also likely right since it can infact be taken the way of him being a villain and that stands out from plain citizens
Ouch.
hes british, so you know he is the villain
2:00 the door man runs away like hell no lol 😂
Smart doorman!
Hats off to him for knowing what to do. He should get full marks for that.
Don't you just love family reunions. This was beautiful.
Imagine how awkward it would be if the 8 Ball said he could outrun Sivana
Sivana: "Ask this if you can outrun me."
"Okay... can I outrun him?"
8-Ball: ...without a doubt.
Sivana: *cries in neglect*
He would just let him go and then turn them to Ash as he was running away
Or how bout, Don't Count on It
He would kill him anyway regardless what the 8 ball says
@@oscarestrada6145 insert Woody slamming Magic 8 Ball here.
I got Homelander vibes when he floated up, spread his arms, and said: _"God bless us... every one!"_
huh, different actors playing his brother and father
weird
I liked John Glover better as his father. He also played Lex Luthor's father in Smallville.
At least it's twice the satisfaction of seeing the man getting his revenge.
you are right
@Dorothy Gale Nope just reshoots and the original actors were unavailable or didn't score well enough with the test audiences.
Alex Denby he was amazing as Lionel Luthor.
I don't blame him in a way. Sometimes, I feel sorry for him.
ikr
He could have been like Billy, or Billy could have been like him if Billy was rejected
FRED THE THOT SLAYER so there will be no villain for this film then
That doesn't justify his actions though. He killed a lot of people. Just because he had a motivation doesn't make it right. I seem to remember a certain German who had a rough upbringing, but did that make what he did right?
But I think he was having "a bad time"
I like the boardroom scene better, but there's a few things I like better about this one. Namely, the revelation of "the wizard finding a champion" feels a little less abrupt.
This is interesting, but I understand why they reshot it. The boardroom scene was much better.
@Alan Chao cause it's other actors.
Mmm...neh!
Wow, this made the movie looks more terrifying
so the boardroom scene didn't?
@@SmashLiXs yes it is, but if they add this scene too it will be more scarier
@@darkjedi7 he already killed his dad in one scene
@@SmashLiXs that's why I wondered, his dad and bro were changed in this scene?
dark jedi yeah it looked like they did some recasting
Ooooh see now....this is tricky
On the one hand the original scene has better actors for the father and Sid. And i really did love the spontaneous erratic part where Thaddeus tossed Sid out of the window and the sins came out and ate everybody and the yelling on the misty doors and the father scene where he was devoured by Greed..... plus the part in the elevator was pretty cool.
But here we get a much better payoff for Sid. and the part where the doorman is like FTSIO! And where Thad reveals that he was never truly accepted in the family. Plus i like how the Sins appear in his reflection instead of out in the open.
It's clear they filmed this scene early, before they got all the actors probably, and without any character development for the family, and everything about them is said in (over)exposition by Sivana. Also they toned down the powers, which makes sense - I always get irked whenever some bad guy in some movie is super-powerful that can snap people out of existence, but when confronting friends of the heroes they always have to chase them in a silly way or harmlessly render them unconscious.
@@SergioLeRoux So in that case you hate Infinity War?
@@godofevil9468 the snap in that movie was a big thing, not casually disintegrating people just because they got too close. I'm talking about baddies that kill instantly everyone except important characters.
@@SergioLeRoux Hmmmmmm.......I still don't know... I'm sure some people might argue that the villain wants to do more damage to the main characters and just get rid of any other distractions.
BUT in the larger scope i see your point.
the idea was that the seven deadly sins corrupt and destroy everything they touch, turning it to ash...However becasue billy is the champion his power can survive the sins touch..regular humans cannot.
Doctor Sivana went from being your stereotypical mad scientist to a man disgusted by his weakness and so became the modern equivalent of the evil sorcerer archetype (which fits better with Shazam powers being made of magic).
What kind of scientist was he in the movie anyway? I
@@apoorvanand9627 I don't know.
it's like Homelander Crashing his Enemy's family christmas party
Are you talking about THE BOYS ?
@@sourabhkarmakar8040 yes
DA BOISS
Dr Sivana is one of my favourite villains from Shazam!!
Well he was pretty much the only villain. The sins don’t really count, they weren’t as much characters as they were plot motivation
Black Adam will come in the next one
Joe Kauffman Yeah but that has nothing to do with this one
Animated Aaron right oh ok, I see what your point, Shazam has only had one movie that has one villain which is Dr Sivana, I usually like a movie that’s mainly focused one character and the other one
@@aaronmark3oh I see
Thanos: did you just steal my move.
Chad Daddy mcu thanos>>>>joker
@@ArjonRahman
Lol jo
Chad Daddy thanos> joker
Dread it, run from it, destiny still arrives....
Chad Daddy thanos>joker we live in a universe
Arjon Rahman Ya know Thanos is a Darkseid rip off whose cinematic appearance was a rip off of DC antagonist Ozymandias.
MCU thanos still crap
Get what you deserve: Joker
Turns people into ash: Thanos
Janos
@@noahfountain7037 :O
Noah Fountain, or Thoker
I don't feel so good.
Hey sivana u get what u f#$@ing deserve.
Having some Lex Luthor(from Smallville) vibes from this scene.
MrFedoraFilm if only Sivanas dad in the movie was in the deleted scene cuz he played lex's dad Lionel😆
While the boardroom was pretty frightening, this makes Tiny Tim's classic line sound scary.
I just realized the chilling significance of Sivana quoting Tiny Tim. It's a sense that back in the prologue, he was once like Tiny Tim. But now, after years spent with his toxic family, he's become as cold and empty as Scrooge, speaking with the ghosts of his past
Car Valet. "I just work here. I don't even need this job anymore."
1:26 bully maguire: este muchacho me llena de orgullo 😈🖐️
The board room was much scarier but this scene is still amazing
Dr Sivana: Hah! I did this!!
Thanos: Poser.
Lol, I still cant get over how Sivana looks like my Dad XD
Cameron Pearce If he ever pulls out a Magic 8 ball, *run for your life.*
@@monsoon1303 XD
He turned the Christmas Party into the Red Wedding
that is dark which is PERFECT!
This scene shows the DCEU going back to it's darker roots :)
1:20 You're gonna have a bad time, father.
Bro that one survivor is going to be hella rich
This scene is more creeper than the company scene
For my own opinion
I can see why they decided to go with the office scene instead of this one.
- First, we already saw the scientist turn to dust which already reveals that kind of power. Using this is isn’t as interesting as the sins because of that.
- Second, the office scene allowed to better reveal the seven deadly sins and what power they endure. Without it, we wouldn’t truly understand how powerful Dr. Sivana is.
- Third, this scene didn’t really fit the tone of the scene before and after this one. Before, we see Darla, Billy, and Freddy going to bed and literally says “goodnight,” helping end of the scene and setting. And after, they cut to the school scene where the truck disappears which wouldn’t be a good scene to cut to for the next day without the office scene.
Wow I Never Heard This Deleted Scenes Of Shazam Before Like A Different Side By Side Of Dr.Sivana Christmas Party.⚡👍👍
1:12 little confused here, did they recast his father during reshoots?
Yep.
Is this scene not connected to the movie?
Yes....in the movie John Glover was his father
This is his brother, not his father.
@@Gojirawars03
His father is there
3:02
"I'm more powerful than you."
The Aces of the Ace Combat universe: "Allow Us To Prove Your Words Wrong........Buddy."
This is waaaay better than what we got
*sees title* So, he "Thanosed" them?
*watches video*
Yeup, only more painful
I was really hoping he wouldn't do that to ALL the guests and waiters as well
So far Sivana is my favorite DCEU villain....cause I feel sorry for him sometimes in the movie
FINNALLY I HAVE MORE!!!!!!
Wow, both these alternate scenes and the final product scene are good
*Sees "Christmas" in title*
"It'S StiLl NoVemBeR"
I like that more people died here but they didn't show their death scene and make Doctor Sivana's dad more fearful
Mark Strong is sooo owning this film...
This whole scene kind of symbolize that dr. Sivana is the black sheep of the family
The part when he turned the family into dust kinda gave a vibe to hellraiser when pinhead killed the boiler room party offscreen
He's such a great Villain. Mark Strong is one of the best
Agree
Bro killed his own father😂😂😂😂
This guy for sure will get ashes in his stocking.
They edited it as he killed his dad at the boardroom. I feel like this scene is worse as everyone stares at him with hatred
Remind me of a German guy with silly moustache who did the exact thing to 6 millions in Poland.
his dialogue sounds like something
that an angsty 20+ year old person would say
I can kinda see why they changed this scene, I guess they wanted to use the original actor for the father, and use an actor that looks similar to sid if he was 50, and probably thought that a boardroom would be more dramatic than a Christmas party, so to show thaddeus get his revenge, he destroys everything his father achieved and starts out by being the bigger Man this time by using their wrath's and abuse against them.
This was an awesome scene, but the board room we got is world's better.
That dude at 2:00 was a smart man.
Look what happens when there’s a party and don’t get an invite
Alright, I never watched this movie, but now I'm starting to think that this is my new favorite DC villain.
I love this villain
1:27 That redhead lady is the same that Killmonger poisoned with the coffee in the museum scene of Black Panther.
homage from Batman Returns
an outcast child at Christmas season
that'll become powerfully dangerous
villains that kill there own familys have got to be about as psychotic as they come
If this is a deleted scene,why was this scene deleted?
Like when Thanos snapped his fingers and erased half the population
That one guy that got away was real lucky!
Is that his only "bad-guy" line? lol
2:09 when you max energy weapons and luck for critical hits lol
I think this is the reason why the first film was better than the second film, but liked it anyways, despite the fact that this wasn't used in the first film. The first film had scenes that were dark and at times scary, which contrast with the comedy. They create a sense of stakes and threat to the protagonist. Had vaguely occult horror element at times. I wonder if executive meddling affected how the second film style was different.
kind of feels like a Rick and Morty villain like way he slowly fly's up and starts taking out everyone
I like that this movie has more deleted/extra scenes content than most comicbook films nowadays.
Dr. Sivana is such a great villian that he is what Lex Luthor should've been. Mark Strong would've played a great Lex Luthor if the writers thought it up. He was just that great.
Sivana isn't evil, Just broken
Now that's a deleted scene
I prefer the final scenes, his family was "too nice" in the table scene and that makes Dr. Sivana more vindictive, less sympathetic. But his father and brother were much more obnoxius in the car scene, making you feel less bad for them and understand better Sivana's lust for power.
Sivana correctly tells Sid the outlook from the 8 ball before he dies. One last bit of dark humor with a punchline. In the boardroom scene that makes the cut, he throws him out the window before he reads the 8 ball, which is pointless.
Why didnt they leave this scene in? Such a nice christmas scene where he murders 50 or 60 people in a family superhero movie.
The other scene was much much worse
That magic 8ball is the one sided twoface coin that only says outlook not so good
The season of giving line makes a little more sense however I do prefer the boardroom scene.
They threat him like trash when he was a kid, so they got drowned on their own mistakes later on.
Thanos would be proud
This is like a alternate scene don't yall think
Every father wpuld be proud in how smart and intelligent sivana was but if his father looked for him to be tough like the brother where will that get him
This was quite perfect.
Agree
Some people just don't like Christmas
They secretely wanted to do a dark movie, this scene proves it. Embrace it, DC, you're the weird sister.
I could watch an entire 2 hour series of clips where Mark Strong does evil things.
The part where he sitting at the table eating ham and finger food instant classic
Really love the shot of the demons reflected in the glass at the end, but overall I think the boardroom scene was better.
Terlon Nannister Plus the 7 Deadly sins had colors on their skins. For example Wrath is the red one. Too bad they didn't put the color on the sins, That would've looked cool
This is what happens when people are pushed too far by their own families no less
people screams!
superman: can't hear yaa..!
I like this and the alternate opening that goes with it better than the actual ones. Fits the tone of the movie better. Less dark and horror movie like.
I wish that the movie kept it like this
Probably didn't go with this one because it was too dark for kids
Wait was this a other Option from the director
Or was this an extended cut
I only saw the board room scene
Deleted scene
Hybschtorie remember in the beginning where he was in a car they had it to where he was at a his house and his family were eating then he got chased by his brother cause he was holding that 8 ball thing and he went to the elevator and went to the Shazam place then he wasn’t worthy so he went back to the elevator and his dad I think fell from the stairs this is the deleted scene and just like the board room they were gonna use this for the elevator scene it was deleted cause it was horrible or like cgi and that stuff was probably unfinished for the elevator scene
@@delusions2 Don't you mean alternate scene
Trevor Philips yes
*So, which Sivana Slaughter scene do YOU think is better?*
This one, or the original one with all Seven Deadly Sins?