RWBY Fairy Tales: The Shallow Sea
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- Ozpin recounts two distinct origin myths regarding the Faunus.
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I like that there are different versions of this because this didn't happen in Ozpin's lifetime. The faunus were already around and being kept in cages the first time Ozpin was reincarnated .
Out of the three episodes released so far, I find this one to be the most significant because we finally see the origins of the Faunus, even if it's only a fable
Considering the fact that many fables turn out to be true in this series and franchise, it's like to be true, but that still doesn't excuse how pretentious and hypocritical that people conveniently forget that the animals themselves are shown to have a narrow mindset too! Yes the humans are indeed in the wrong for assuming the worst of animals, but so too are the Animals because they assume the worst in humans! Also how convenient that we see humans so clearly being persecutive of the newly formed Faunus for being part animal! What about the Animals, huh?! Did they do the opposite and start accepting the Faunus because they're may have humanoid but at least they have animal traits?! No! We don't even see how other animals view Faunus or their relations to the species! How do we know they don't view and treat the Faunus negatively as do the humans, huh?!
I like what Ozpin says at the end, about the fantastical nature of the story, and how it reflects real events. Even the wildest of fables are based in fact. Whether it’s due to misunderstanding or wild interpretation, every myth and legend is, at least in part, based in fact and truth. They provide a mirror to our reality, in order for us to understand our actions
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Now I want to learn more about the God of Animals and his possible role in Volume 9
I will point out we don't quite know if he's real
There are theories that they were the brothers in disguise.
[SPOILERS if you haven't read Fairy Tales of Remnant]
The "Shallow Sea" and the "Judgement of Faunus" have two different versions of the God of Animals.
In Shallow Sea, the God had ram horns (like the younger brother) and in Judgement of Animals, it had branching horns (like the older brother)
He does live on a mysterious island.🤔
@@stevenkurtz2730 or possibly a tulpa in the ruby world that has become a god or godlike.
Here from Volume 9!
I got bad news
“You assume the worst about one another but you are more alike then you know.” So true throughout history and life, personally I like it cause of the whole other gods aspect besides just light and dark
X~BLADE! (I agree with your statement.)
This guy is just Wilhelm in disguise
"Though the sea did not touch you, it has revealed your own shallowness."
Truer words have never been spoken
I actually don't agree. How is wanting to stay who you want to be instead of what another wants shallowness? This god wanted them to be Faunus yet there is nothing wrong with being human.
How is shallow NOT wanting to have horns or a tail? Isn’t it more shallow to reject people don’t want something they didn’t choose or even liked?
@@madmask7987 I think what they meant is that the people were shocked and horrified at the people that were turned into Faunus.. Therefore is showed that they were shallow for judging people they saw as “monstrous”
no thats the stupidest, most empty nothing statement ive ever heard lmao
"Come onto the island and start a new life!"
"Wonderful, hey wait did those people just sprout horns and tails? No no wait, you didn't say anything about horns and tails. That one guy has green skin now."
"Ugh, you're so shallow. Go away."
"Were we so narrow minded when we were humans?"
Sadly that is the truth, you try so hard to fit in and belong somewhere that once you change yourself. Your views, your personality maybe your own form the people you once trusted maybe even loved will betray you because of fear.
Fascinating
@@eren34558
Thank you.
Want to hear another idea I think you'll like
Yeah no, they were not narrow mindet, even with animals (this part in itself is stupid because animals never were intelligent,and writers just wanted to make the faunus origin the pitiest as it could be)
.Suddenly beings similar to humans appear with animalistic features?
Especially with Grimm running around?
Yeah, they are in the right to be cautious.
Slitted eyes,horns like demons,fangs,etc
@@XMitrilXPL
I see your opinion but I disagree animals even in our world have been proven to have high intelligence, if evolution had made it so they could have be equal to us. The point I was making was on how holding beliefs or changing them can either hold people together or split them apart, in the Fuanus case it split them from the humans when it really shouldn't have
I find it so pretentious and hypocritical that people conveniently forget that the animals themselves are shown to have a narrow mindset too! Yes the humans are indeed in the wrong for assuming the worst of animals, but so too are the Animals because they assume the worst in humans! Also how convenient that we see humans so clearly being persecutive of the newly formed Faunus for being part animal! What about the Animals, huh?! Did they do the opposite and start accepting the Faunus because they're may have humanoid but at least they have animal traits?! No! We don't even see how other animals view Faunus or their relations to the species! How do we know they don't view them negatively as do the humans, huh?!
I wonder if there are/were lesser gods who lived on Remnant. Obviously they’re not on the same level as the God of Darkness and God of Light, but if the God of Animal’s did exist where did he go and is he still on Remnant?
This is very interesting from a lore perspective and I’m glad they’re showing it off here.
well that god was like make by the two god to watch over the race on that world or was born after they left maybe from light pool
I actually assumed that that was the God of Light in Disguise
well salem can in the present day can create the grimm.
did she absorb the animal gods power but it was tainted from her grimm side, so now shes only able to create and commune with grimm?
i have many questions.
I wonder the same thing. Qrow did say in Volume 4 that humanity has been around for a long time and that gave them time to make up at least dozens of gods. Who knows which ones are real and the others just fairytales.
It's possible the island place is where he lives
I genuinely think the "animal god" is one of the twin brothers in disguise or both of them considering the multitude of similarities
The God of Light if only one god. If both, they came together creating a god of both light and dark.
In the wiki, they list the god of animals as a separate entity, so I don't think it's the either of the twins in disguise. Besides, they chose to abandon Remnant. That doesn't mean there aren't other deities out there who would find Remnant intriguing.
@@ceciasa3376 that doesn't nean anything,it's just not confirmed,I can list the similarities if you want
Also the book pretty much says that this God is more or less made from a creationstory that barely holds any truth to it. So take this with a spoon of salt
I mean this is a fictional character according to the everyone in the show.
So... I feel there's a broken aesop here. There are two conflicting parties here, and instead of learning to accept differences and compromise, a spirit just turns the two parties into one, with no foresight of the conflict that will bring afterwards.
Also, I'd take the canonicity of this being the origin of Faunus with a grain of salt.
The god’s are fallible and not always the wisest. The God of Light cursed Salem with immortality in hopes she would learn the value between life and death when it just made her vengeful towards the gods. Even after the God of Darkness destroyed all other humans, the God of Light still kept Salem immortal even though it should’ve been obvious that his idea of teaching her a lesson wasn’t working. So he just left a broken woman behind when he should’ve just ended her. Even though he wanted to give humanity another chance, he still left an immortal Grimm woman around to wreak havoc. Sure he gave Ozma the ability to reincarnate after death so he could stand up to her. But if both were immortal, it would result in a never ending war between the two. So yeah the gods may not be truly evil, but they can’t sympathize or truly understand human emotion.
@@Watcherofprovidence Yeah... I'm talking about the aesop for _this_ story, though.
@@hiddenscorpiusXI I know, I’m pointing out the fact that the gods of RWBY don’t always make the best decisions. I was using the God of Light as an example.
@@Watcherofprovidence and I'm pointing out that this tale si exactly that, an in-universe fable written by a person from Remnant. Fables are meant to teach a lesson through aesops, and this one feels broken; it boils down to "can't solve a conflict? Have a supernatural being solve ir by shoving everyone onto the same figurative boat". That's not the right way to teach a lesson about acceptance.
@@hiddenscorpiusXI and I’m pointing out that if this fable(much like the four maidens) is in fact true, then it wouldn’t be out of character for one of the god’s to make a bad judgment call.
both tales take place near the shoreline of an ocean, which make me wonder if this fairy tale is references a different, certain one from Volume 9. I personally question now if the Faunus really started on Remnant, and what bits of the tale are actually true.
Honestly I just assumed that every RWBY fairy tails is Canon to remnant's history.
Some rando with the staff: Make cat girls real
The history where all Faunus came from. From a God who gifted them the ability of animals.
More like from a god whose motto is "Embrace the mutation. It's for your own good."
I feel like this raises more questions than answers.
The animals or the origin by mythical beast?
It is a fairytale so it could be not true
Origin stories are usually ambiguous as none really remember the whole in truth.
Welcome to RWBY
Sounds like religion
I think these fables are going to be especially relevant next season.
Right I mean why else would they make these
@@blazingstudios7781 money
@@kingsoldier3475 Well also that, but if we get some good stories in exchange that's just commerce.
3:15 God: “I can end this conflict here, but only if all submit to my judgment”
*two people submit*
God: “Good enough I guess”
It do be like that sometimes when gods go ehhhh
Half expecting a "YOUR SOUL IS MINE!"
Lol, I mean they very clearly went to talk with their people first
and those 2 were acting as the representatives of their groups. duh.
Representative democracy _does_ look silly if you just give it a quick glance, doesn't it? ;3
It's a shame how short "the Shallow Sea" is in the animation. It cuts out how the God of Animals is constantly shifting form, never the same way when you look back at him.
I am genuinely enjoying these stories. I compliment the writing team.
If only the writing team didn't trade the story for good animation on the main series it would be 100 times better
It Just one writer these are just animated versions of already written books
@@supremevictoryduck1488 let’s be honest. RWBY was never really a good story. Monty was a fighting animator the story was good because of the fighting and the music but that’s it.
@@diegorodriguez8006 well, while that's a fact, it's also your opinion, i personally love the story of the series itself.
@@diegorodriguez8006 not true, it was exciting the relationships were amazing and deaths had meaning, like yang and ruby actually seemed like sisters
It is interesting that in both stories, the animal god chose not to tell them what he intended to do to them before the irrevocable change had already been enacted.
And then he shunned the ones that were rightfully upset in the first story and called them shallow. Am i supposed to believe Mister deer-goat furry with no mouth is somehow not at fault here for all of this? Like mind your own business bro
@@laoaidan2400 I think when he said the people on the boat were shallow he meant about how they took something at face value and quickly turned against those that were still one of their with the own with the only difference being the physical appearance. The boat being cast to the sea was probably symbolising how rather than understanding and accepting something better, they chose to assume the worst by taking it at face value as well as distancing from it and, judging and being narrow minded about it.
He also took the animals that had no risk of being attacked by the Grimm and made them just as vulnerable as Humans instead of giving the new species the same immunity from the Grimm that the animals had.
0:35 "As people were ready to land to the shore...all of sudden an unknown talking (demon?/magical creature/god?) appeared. Everyone was mildy confused about it appearing suddenly out of nothingess...(???) it did not introduse itself, and people found that mildly rude."
These stories are clever fairy tales and I liked Ospin meditating on what they meant for the Faunus. This series is a nice companion to the World of Remnant.
this story would make sense if ruby’s dog didn’t exist
They did not turn all animals into faunus just the ones who where fighting
@@kickbrosmasher5155 So why haven’t we seen any animals besides Zwei?
@@rodneyYT because zwei is a god
These have to be my favorite stories from the book, so glad they were one that was chosen to be animated.
Me at first: "This is probably just gonna be some lame Faunus backstory."
*Panther becomes hot Faunus*
Me with my inner Furry: "Oh my gods...."
Indeed.
So, could this god of animals be the son of the gods of light and darkness?
He could be one or both of them… The design is different, but this is arguably an interpretation of a story passed down through generations, so who knows what actually happened? Given that he has antlers kinda, I suspect that it’s the god of light… While he supposedly left, when Ozma was brought back, it was after humans had come back and Faunus were new to him… So maybe he was around for longer than we thought after the events with Salem.
This is probably the story of how Menagerie Island came to be where Faunuses have Nowhere else to go when subjugated and persecuted by Humans.
The Fairy Tales of Remnant does clarify that this story predates the Faunus' homeland being in Menagerie (since Menagerie was only given to the Faunus following the Great War). Ozpin's afternote even states that the Shallow Sea version has become less popular since Menagerie was established because of how confining Menagerie is.
I think Mistral offered it to them after the war, pretending to do them a favour, while kinda getting rid of most of them… Something like that… I remember there being mentions of the Great War and a faunus war… I’m not sure if they are connected or not…Someone probably knows… But yeah, after one of those, they be like “Hey, here’s this great island for you!”.
Interesting!
“There was a war between humans and animals”
Me: *pinches nose and inhales* HOW?!
4:13 So that's one of Sun's ancestors! I think.
Now I see how Faunus were born
It a story though I wonder if it is
@@gustavodelarosa8835 perhaps
Faunus origin story! Faunus origin story!!!
Also, 2 more episodes until Girl in the Tower/more Salem backstory!
Great!
Animal God: Though the sea did not touch you, it has revealed your own shallowness.
Random grey guy #21: Well soooooorry for not wanting to be a freaking furry!
I laughed way harder than I should have. Bravo fren.
I always wondered what the origins of Faunus were. Now we have 2 stories about the Volume 9 Location that give differing options. I like them both, honestly.
I had the thought that both of them were true, and that the two ways to become a Faunus (blessed to be yourself, and cursed to be different) represent the Faunus identity struggle.
it's not really about the V9 island.
Are those two (panther and dark woman) Blake’s parents??
@@ajayyy_3 no
@@ajayyy_3 Nope
“Both stories have some things in common” completely overlooks the god of animals
The animal god has a cool design
Also
God: animals I have taken away your protection from the Grimm, humans I have taken away your homes and families now be peaceful like I told you
To be fair they agreed to his judgement 😂
The Animal God clearly likes the saying "To truly understand someone you must walk a mile in their shoes" and applied it here quite literally.
yknow, this is the only other mention of animals other than the casual birds flying overhead
*cough* Zwei *cough*
@@Compucles zwei is a god
Such dark wholesome.
Im sorry i almost burst out laughing when the jungle cat turns around to deliberate with his fellow animals 😂.
so we've got a third god now, wonder if he has a roll to play for Volume 9.
Maybe, maybe not. He might no even exist, this is a fairytale after all.
@@fadingspace7103 you don't know that, he might show up to help Ruby and the others get back to Remnant.
@@pauljordan0203 Your right, and that is a possibility since they're all on a magic island right now, but it is still a fairytale that should be takin with a grain of salt. I do think him showing up on the island is a possibility tho.
@@fadingspace7103 let's hope so, cause Ruby and the others can't stay there all season, ya know?
@@pauljordan0203 That would be really awkward since we also have the people who went through the portal and going between the perspectives of all of them for more than a season would be grating.
1:21 fables often teach lessons, such as the importance of looking benath the skin.
-Ozpin is right, Never judge a book by its cover.
The twins (light and dark gods), now the nature god. I wonder if remnant have a entity that administrate each aspect of existence: Energy, material, soul/underworld, space, time, antimatter, void, etc.
It would be very interesting, such as the superior entities that exist in marvel comics, eternity, the living tribunal, etc
However this nature god is unable to be confirmed if real or simply a creation of these fairy tales.
@@calebheinis965 Considering the effort of making him (by the designers team) and the fact he appear in both Faunus origin stories, I think It might be a very high possibility that he may be a existential character in the universe of Remnant
Didn’t Qrow say there are many tales of other gods but according to Oz there’s only two?
This is definitely my favorite so far
I have a theory: After the brother gods left a void was formed. And from that void new spirits and gods were born. Remnant became what it is because of the actions of these dieties.
So, he's a pattern screamer, then.
@@MrOmegatronic A what?
Something from the SCP Foundation, @@mr.nameless4455. Imagine an empty void where nothing exists... and it's _angry_ , because observing it makes the nothing experience _literal_ existential pain (by which I mean, the sheer agony caused by forcing non-existence to exist _as a non-existent existence_ ). ...Yeah, it's weird.
So how many Gods are there in Remnant?
There are the gods of Light and dark, the four relic gods, and now an animal god? This just raised more questions, but at least we kno the origin of faunus
Its not entirely clear if he's real or not, it's possible he is given the theme of fairy tales being real, but it isn't confirmed
I consider the entities in the 4 Relics to be more akin to spirits than gods.
@@Vigriff there are spirits ozpin has said they are
Shape-shifting
I bawled out hearing the panther speaking! Lol
Seeing the war between animals and humans seems ridiculous due to real life logic
Ah yes the solution was to become a furry
They're more of nekomimi than furry. But yes it's a wonderful solution.
@@gageshippy2256 strangely yes
Faunus or not, I accept them.
They really got Black Panther in here
Menagerie Forever!
I really liked these fables of Faunus origins
Why do i feel that this tale is going to be in Volume 9??
The beach, trees and plants. The godlike animal being. And the V8 teaser at the end. We know rwby's fairy tales aren't always just stories
Why did that panther have like, the sissiest voice imaginable? He sounded ready to snap his fingers in a z-shape.
Now that you mention it
2:43 Preston Garvey?
E: does this fairy tale take place before or after ozma came back for the first time?
i'd say before he came back.
Faunus existed by the time Ozma came back, I think… Jinn says that he found himself in a strange new world where the Faunus existed and were kept in cages etc… So I think Faunus came about before Ozma returned to Remnant.
The credits say the panther was voiced by George Panga, and the voice actor for Preston Garvey is Jon Gentry.
Astra Militarum: Am I a bad person?
Partial lyrics from Divide. “… When allied together, a threat men display, divide them with doubt…” the Grimm have always played this part. By not attacking the animals, they created a rift between them and humans, which created conflicts between the species.
Hmm, is he a different kind of god? Wonder what light and darkness think of this
I have to say that this episode is my favorite.
Same!
They need to add these fairy tales especially this one to the main show
God of beasts looking at the brothers of light and dark like:
"Ayo check this out i'm about to invent racism"
those that victimize themselves and those that judge others are the same, they always assume and generalize.
This gives me Princess Mononoke vibes. Love it.
This story was amazing and it make me realize a lot of things
Now this here's a story cast into a whole different light by the reveal about the Tree of Ascension.
this is nothing but people saying re-used quotes everyone has heard 2 million times and acting like its new
Hey Joachim!
Shut up.
i have no clue what to make of either story...It only makes me wanna ask M O R E Questions
I always enjoy these stories,they bring up genuinely important issues of humanity in a interesting way and just Shannon Ozpin so yay!
Oh My. Such a wonderful and fulfilling tale, one that gives light to the faunus as a species.
I think this is going to be my favorite story
Your favorite story yet
Yep, making me wait for the next volume of RWBY, get it going guys, and gals
amen
1:02 "This is the most solemn significant moment of my life... Cannonball!!"
That story was so good 🤩 it's perfect to make us patient for season 9
"I wished i seen his vision before he couldn't finish it"
Years before this, in my original head cannon for my OC I had made up a God of Faunus named Fauna(I know not original). To see this and realize I was pretty spot on is pretty funny.
With Volume 9 I think this story takes place there. There's the shallow water, the palm beach acre, ascension. Maybe the god brothers combined into one being, people were brought there and sent back or made their way through to the door to Remnant as the 2nd story has them searching for a home.
It would be beautiful if we somehow got a glimse of the god of animals in the main time line for the show, even as just a statue
This spinoff gave us more Faunus backstory than the actual show.
You mean overall or in just one instance?
That was the point
@@blueblade6174 yes
@@DavidZakuzaRyutashi??
Less expensive animation
Now I know that faunuses are the best people in Remnant.
Blake us best girl
Shallow indeed.
This is the most wholesome episode of RWBY 8 have ever seen
*now hear me out with the panther guy*
Thank you for this story
You could easily change the title to "The history of furries" and it would still make sense
Humans and animals were fighting, but came a God whom declared "A cat is fine too".
@@MrLednard *cat girls are fine too
@@MrLednard tsukihime?
People: "We don't like Animals! They be scary..."
Animals "We don't like Humans. They scarier!"
Animal God: "OK... what if I allow you to become one?"
Both: "Like, Furries?"
Animal god: "Um...."
Both: "YES!"
nothing in either stories suggests that Faunus and Humans need each other, also would have been better if there was a good version and an evil version
This is my favorite so far; Learning about the origins of the Faunus and how they're not too different from Humans :3
I’m surprised how well these short stories grab you compared to the main story sometimes.
So RWBY is at the Shallow Sea
I figured the animal god was a prototype from when the brothers were trying to decide how to populate remnant.
Is it bad I like this more then the main show? This is genuinely really great.
This looks oddly a lot like Princess Mononoke's god design and even plot...
How?
Seriously, how?
@@eren34558 Eren shut up lol.
Not that much for the plot imho, though, yes that character design for the animal god... (facepalm)
I don’t just like this story because of the lore and background of the Faunus, but also because this lesson can strongly apply to todays problems in the world
Doesn't that mean you can like it?
Cmon josh.
@@eren34558 I’m literally saying I like the episode. Read it over a bit better
I can't really get behind it because it portrays the fauna as a "superior" species when really they're just as fallible and prone to mistakes as humans are.
You don't become enlightened just because god turned you into a furry.
1 year later it shows up in my recommendation
one of the best ones yet
How come the good RWNY volumes aren’t on TH-cam anymore?
For some odd reason, this makes me think that they're foreshadowing the fact that Ruby Rose can possibly become a faunus/An Idea THAT NEVER MADE THE CUT. And they're also on an Island which makes it far more as possible.
Wolf faunus?
@@eren34558 yes, that's the one.
Anyone thinking Zwei is the god of Animals 🐕🐕🐕🐕🤔🤔🤔😕😕😕
This was interesting and entertaining to watch!
The first story gives off the "Follow me and you will be reborn in my image", which seems like a common thing in religion in general; while the other is a "Separate you are strong, but together you are stronger" aspect and I find both ways interesting.
Absolutely agreee
Oooooo!!!!! Another God! Was he related somehow to the other two?
if he is real and not just a figment of a story.
He might be one of the brothers for all we know… I mean they did have horns/antlers… Though I’m thinking god of light rather than darkness… Who knows?
Getting strong Princess Mononoke vibes from this one.
This makes me wonder if the God of Animals will ever appear in the show. He'd be interesting to meet. If he did appear, I hope Sun finds him first, or at least Sun and Blake
...Sun really has no reason to meet a God of Faunus. If anyone has its Blake
@@l30ng62 okay, I admit it, I just want Sun to have more screen time.
If the Faunus think they're 'better than both' after they merged, then they didn't learn at all.