Full Review | 2020 Ultra Brougham MB by Regency RV | Murphy Bed Class C RV
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- Of the 3 class C RVs available here in North America built on the Sprinter chassis with a Murphy bed and kitchen on the driver's side, the Ultra Brougham is the most affordable.
Special thanks for Happy Daze RV in Sacramento (www.happydazerv.com) for allowing me to video their Ultra Brougham MB for this video. Call them today to inquire about this particular RV: 916-921-2222
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What do you think of the 2020 Ultra Brougham by Regency RV?
Not at all interested in Class C. Sorry.
@alliejr - more class b reviews coming! i had to do this one because there are just too few choices for this particular layout. thanks for letting me know!
I Like it! But it has a few major issues, the wasted space under the slide out and the flimsy exterior doors. I assume that under the slide out is where the generator would be installed? I like the trash and laundry solutions, I don’t see the security issues as you do as few would ever know about the interior access however I would be concerned about the flimsy doors letting heat or cold in or out. The trash kind of reminded me of an Airstream rebuild I saw once that had a large cabinet door that opened behind the sink into the entry area, there was a flip up counter section that let you access the trash. The door on the side opened to the large trash bin. It was a good design!
Edit; if you’re ever bored research a super C. I think showhauler is located not too far north of you.
Nope. Too many misses on electric. Interior is heavy and traditional. Hardware is awful. Agree on safety. Very 70’s... not a good style year. Great content though, all your hard work really shows. Thank you.
Not interested in a class C. You need levelers and a toad, thus defeating the whole idea of a class B.
The Regency Ultra Brougham has several interior color choices..... from light to dark..... I own a Regency Ultra Brougham 2019. I chose a light color combination for the entire coach. Light Stain on the solid wood, light colored corian countertop, and light color for the leather ....As with any new RV adjustments are needed. I took my RV to Regency RV factory for a few minor adjustments. The attitude and professionalism exceeded my high standards...All adjustments where made quickly, efficiently, without any hassle..... One of the workers expressed to me “that he is as proud of my RV as I am “ ......
The new 2020 models have additional storage attached under the slide out.
Neal I enjoy watching your channel. Keep up the good work
Ultramobility I think the build quality of the Regency is very high and not sure how the others comments come to be just based upon a single video.Take a look at Angie’s review of Regency factory visit from NIRVC. As she points out there are only 2 manufacturers that take apart all exterior parts for painting. Pleasure Way and Regency. And only one those removes the interior parts for painting and that is Regency! Arguably that places Regency at one of the best builds.
We looked at one of these when shopping for our LTV Unity MB. Regency is giving dealers a bigger margin than most other brands. No ducted AC-that’s how they get a taller ceiling, except under the roof AC. The vertical exterior compartment is compromised for space and utility by the laundry hamper, as well as the security issue you brought up. No storage under the slide is a big loss, as you mentioned. Interior is dated looking compared to curved Euro styling. The LTV has a lot more LED spotlights and indirect strip lighting(even in the shower). Impressed with the longer warranty vs. LTV.
You made your name being the go to person regarding the very popular Class B format. I understand the field is so much smaller now with RoadTrek and Hymer are not in the mix. I have followed you from the beginning and you helped me greatly in my final decision. The Panoramic was my inspiration. I have decided to get my class B through Sportsmobile. There are several great innovative companies making custom class B vans now at comparable prices to mass manufacturers. I think this may be a new area to explore for your fan base. Just my 2 cents.
excellent recommendation and thank you so much for letting me know your thoughts! i will definitely think about how to best showcase custom build shops!
I agree! Thanks, Neil.
I see a load of Regency coaches on the road. Classy look. Reasonable size. As an old man(73) I learned to drive in pre-driver assisrt years when there just weren’t as many people on the roads. I’m fine without all that. It just seems like something else to bump the price and later fail. The MB chassis is already expensive enough to keep up. It does look as though the room is there for storage under the slide out. As a dinette, the space between the chairs looks like you would be banging knees. 40” tv is huge. If you like staying in WalMart or other retail parking lots in rushes trips, the idea of having to put the slide out will kill that ability. I like that the microwave is high enough that it’s easy to see into and clean. I really don’t like low-mounted microwave ovens. The bath is what shines for me in this coach. Plenty of room to dress and keep your clothes. Little kitchen is ok. Pretty coach.
You could show that for a single traveller the slide out doesn't have to be extended each time you want to sleep on the Murphy bed. You just don't have to fold down the bottom portion of the mattress. This will also save on any wear and tear on the slideouts motor(s)
Great review! Love your camera angles. One correction, one can fully extend the Murphy bed with the slide retracted or in. Thank you, love your channel.
did not know that. thanks for clarifying that!
To be fair there are only about 20 different key patterns for RV doors (even main doors) in general. I recently went to a locksmith in a small town and asked him to make a duplicate of my travel trailer key. He briefly looked at the key, turned around and pulled a duplicate off the wall rack. He said he supplied the whole series of keys to every new RV salesman that gets hired at the local RV dealers and that most locksmiths carried the complete set.
I like the shoot feature for laundry and it is a concern, however, the people who would be buying these coaches will mostly be staying at resort-style camping sites or neighborhoods where that would be of little concern but with that said I would have an inside bolt lock installed and problem solved. I drive 18 wheelers and its the same with them. We sleep inside and ANYONE with a key can unlock your door which is why it is recommended to tie your seatbelt and the same goes with the sleeper campers and the pass-through. The truth is just living in a vehicle is easily accessible for anyone.
can i just say that i love that you drive an 18 wheeler! Thanks for the helpful tip and comment Marie Evans!
Thank you for the great videos, I enjoy your channel. I’m waiting for a dedicated video to the 2020 Winnebago View 24d. I see you did a vs Tiffin video but would love an in depth of View 24d. Any plans for this?
Have you done a review on the Renegade Vienna
Calling it a 2020 on a 2018 chassis .. getting so tired of the outright dishonesty and lack of integrity in this industry. This is a 2019 model that didn't sell!
So how much was it?
Thank you for another value added factual review and I applaud your professional and "consumer reports" data based approach to all your reviews. I would still like to see a comprehensive pleasure way review addressing all of the viewer questions you obtained going into that visit. Keep up the great work!
On Murphy bed model:Why is all the interior weight on the driver side? If not much exterior cargo, then not good distribution of weight. Great review-as always!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻✨👍🏾💐
thank you so much rachel!
I like the 6'7" interior. Not so much the exterior lack of storage or interior colors. Not so much the 2018 chassis. It looks like a cheap rip off of the Leisure Travel Vans. Not overly impressed. Yeah, it's "ok." Good video. Thanks!
thanks for sharing your thoughts Uncle Lar!
I really like all of your reviews especially the one you did on the factory's visit on Pleasure -Way and Leisure travel vans. Will you be dong a factory review of Advance RV ?
Thanks for this review! Would love to see a review of the Pleasure-Way XLMB with a Murphy bed.
i haven't done that one yet??
Ultramobility You did a head to head comparison between the XLMB and the Unity MB. it looks like stock videos and photos. I’d love to see a review with you actually in the XLMB. Seeing you in person inside the vehicle and laying on the bed gives me a better feel for how big the vehicle is. I’m also 5’10” so if you fit on the bed comfortably, then so will I!
looking closely @ the outside storage bins?,,looks cheap and sloppy work,,?
yes, have to agree with you.
You are too kind Neil... I don’t know many men who weigh 160 or even women at 130 nowadays . My wife and easily qualify but it’s rare.
As nice as large skylights are they are also huge heat sinks. Wha is is the AC btu? 13,500 or 15,000? I would have to question the support given by the recliner extension. If you sat on the end of the bed and weighed say 200+ that might be an issue.
Regency always makes a very nice looking coach. We looked at their B Class before we went with a Tiffin Wayfarer. Oh by the way we just returned from the Wayfarer service center in AL. The service was Outstanding and they have 18 RV sites with full hook ups and free wi-fi.
The people there are more than accommodating and people come from all over to get warranty and other service. We went to the plant a few miles away and were given a personal tour by Trent Tiffin. Hey you’re dealing with a Family owned business and they care about what their customers think.
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really great to hear your experience with tiffin service. really glad that you're enjoying your wayfarer!
JR Moritz , did they address the OCCC of the Wayfarer? We are looking at one but it’s OCCC is 692. Subtract a full tank of water and our weight from that and we can bring 45lbs worth of clothing, food, gear, etc. How is that a viable travel unit?
Timothy Chiasson what model are you looking at? We have no issues with weight in our 2019 TW
JR Moritz 2020 Tiffin Wayfarer 25RW.
Timothy Chiasson That model has the lowest carrying capacity mostly because of the fully wall slide. Tiffin uses diesel generators which are heavier than propane. All Mercedes Sprinter Class C motor homes are the same basically. Other manufacturers will use cheaper materials to save weight. Tiffin has the best suspension in the business and includes Sumo springs standard. I believe there is some latitude in the carrying weight (within reason). Neil probably would not agree. If you are concerned you will need to carry only what you need and make sure everything is lightweight or go with a different model like the TW.
Long time no see. Still looking forward to the complete PW interview.
coming soon!
I find the potential easy access to the interior through that exterior laundry/storage troubling. Not very well thought out in that regard. It's a good coach but I would still lean toward the LTV MB. Great review Neil!
thanks for sharing those thoughts magic journey and thanks for watching!
The Winnebago Viewi
has better layout with the Murphy bed and on a Sprinter chassis
Another RV channel recommends that you change those outside storage locks ASAP. It's easy to do, so no excuses. He also recommends changing the camper door lock to the keyless entry (those number combination) lock. First, it's not a lock that someone could easily have the master on, and he likes the convenience.
I'm not crazy about the Murphy Bed layout. I prefer a fixed bed. Even a corner bed is better than a Murphy. Though, now that I'm single, twin beds appeal to me, as I can bring a friend and we don't need to share a bed. But I do like to just plop down and sleep, while still having the lounge set up.
i agree that i like the twin bed setup too. very versatile and you can set them up as one large bed if you wish.
If you mentioned it I missed it. But the air conditioning looks like it is not ducted! This for me is a big points remover
Part of the reason it appears dark is all that dark, traditional wood. I wish more RV manufacturers would get away from the types of finishes that would have been okay in the 70s and 80s but look impossibly dated today. Not all RV buyers are old, and even among those who are getting up there, not all want to revisit the 70s. :)
Also, those chairs. When both are facing the table there looks like there's about a foot of room. Where would the two people put their knees??
Overall though, I'd probably pick this coach over the Leisure Travel coach. The warranty and the price. And thank you so much for reviewing Class C coaches! It's hugely appreciated.
excellent designer thoughts well shared! thank you! i agree with the dated interior. i try to stay away from a lot of commentary on interior aesthetics as it is so personal but i do agree with you!
Yes, also turned off by the dark colors. Looks like they are going for an older demographic. I really prefer a lighter color scheme, like Pleasure-Way’s White Chocolate high gloss cabinets with the gray upholstery and white Corian.
@@joycem2795 Look. I'm 59, so not exactly young. And those dark colors turn me off. Maybe they're going for 80 year olds??
Robin Nuttall 80 sounds about right! 😄 I’m 58 and think that interior looks really dated. I really like the PW interiors - light and airy and modern.
@@joycem2795 Agreed!
Good to see my local company Regency getting better with their builds. I am disappointed that they are still on the 2018 chassis. If they can improve their electrical and move to the 2019 chassis, I may take a look at it.
they probably can't get ahold of any 2019 chassis yet...
looking closely @ the storage bins outside?,,looks cheaply made,sloppy,,
have to agree with you there. need better attention to detail.
Wow! A lot of influence from Leisure Vans with this model. I like what they did to the dash, that really dresses it up.
lots of inspiration from LTV for sure!
For the price I would rather have the Pleasure-Way Plateau XLMB.
yep though you will get a much higher discount on the ultra brougham.
@@Ultramobility which discount can we expect for a Regency compared to Pleasure-way or LTV?
I'm learning so much from your videos. Thank you!!!
We just got back from 28 days in Australia! We rented a Mercedes 170 class B RV " Britz"! Everyone just drains gray water anywhere and the cassette toilets are standard.. They don't seem to use solar or Lithium batteries at all. Love the country someone should sell off grid RV's in there wide open market.
I bet it was beautiful eh John?
Your new wipes make me dizzy. Back to clean cuts please. Also, the lens is too wide. Makes everything look fish-eye. A more natural walk-thru look will be less distracting for your videos. The Osmo Pocket is wide enough and a three-axis gimble for smooth footage. Your content is always wonderful, so these things will only improve the viewers experience.
noted thanks for the creative criticism!
Thanks Neil! I'm still eagerly awaiting your review of the Regency National Traveler Explore with twin beds and euroloft bed!
i have a revoiew of the national traveler tour coming up but not with the euroloft option!
Thanks Neil. Looks like a great option for C seekers.
You worry too much about that access panel from the outside storage bin. Unless you are smaller than a medium-sized dog, you are NOT going to get into the coach through that opening!
Like the bathroom and the residential look with plumbing. If I were to retire now I would consider this model. Thanks
you're more than welcome! thanks for watching!
Keep in mind this 2020 unit is about $10,000 less than the other 2020 units because it is on a old style 2018 Mercedes chassis.
great point john!
Why aren’t these guys making a compartment for my small Weber gas grill. It is meant to go with me but there is no obvious place to store it. I don’t want it in the rig where I am sitting.
Great video , Thanks ! Good RV, quality has a price. We have to hitch more than 3500pound and not all class B+ (orC) can but this one with no problem.
Failing at copying a leisure travel van. Great video though, very informative.
I have to disagree with those who say this looks like a cheap copy of a LTV. We saw the Regency models and the LTV models at the Tampa show in January and we were very favorably impressed. We didn't discern a significant quality difference. Maybe we didn't look closely enough. Yes, they are copying LTV. But they're doing it well IMO and for less money- and they're a U.S. company. Parts will be easier/faster to obtain. Won't have to wait for customs clearance from Canada. Just my thoughts...
thank you for sharing
The Whole RV Market is MISSING A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE THEY COULD SALE TOO!!!! NOT IN EUROPE BUT IN AMERICA THEY ARE MISSING THE REGULAR WORKING PEOPLE!!!! WE CANNOT BUY $100/200 thousand dollar rvs!!!! Damn!!!! IN EUROPE YOU CAN BUY ALL KINDS OF REGULAR CAMPER VANS!!! Back in the 60/70/80’s we also had reasonable priced camper vans!!!! My parents had 2 of them when i was a kid!!!! YOU WOULD THINK SOMEONE WOULD WISE UP AND MAKE SOMETHING AFFORDABLE WITH A/c and heat and plug into electric,,,, we dont have to have a full bathroom n kitchen,,,, maybe little counter with outlets for coffepots or hotplate..... COME ON SOMEBODY WISE UP AND MAKE AFFORDABLE SIMPLE CAMPER VANS LIKE THEY DO IN EUROPE,,,, even Nissan and Ford has them over there but not here!
Weight of driver "160 lbs?" Uh....what country do you live in? 🐷✌"Oink...Oink..." But seriously folks, I really like these "Murphy bed" models of RV. I know you've mentioned your concerns with RVs that have slide outs in the past, would you consider that a "deal breaker" or is the additional space worth the possibility of "issues".
not sure that the additional space provided here is worth it. on the wayfarer 25rw and the navion with the longer slide along the driver's side you get meaningfully more interior space.
@Frank Black if you are considering a Murphy Bed and really like the idea of usable space where the bed doesn’t need to be during the day, you may want to look at the new 2020 Unity rear lounge (RL) it has a Murphy bed, but no slide out to cause headaches. (But what looks like a small 'kitchen' counter space, kind like this regency) it is a very nice design....
@@JamieAMcDougall I agree, those Unity models look incredible.
Very nice but the Leisure Travel FX with the Lounge is the Winner in this Category. The Regency National Van is the Bomb. This model would kill with an extendable kitchen counter and a White Cabinet interior like the Winnebago Class A Horizon or Luxe Fifth wheel. Get with it Regency. You're small and nimble. The Industry is going Euro..
well said! they are reading comments so hopefully they read this one!
Keep these reviews coming.. Airstream now but love the B's for the Future.
Seems like a rip off copy of the Leisure Ways MB design.
bingo.
@@Ultramobility What do you think of the new Rear Lounge version of the Leisure Ways. Murphy Bed option without slides. I like it and probably would leave it in bed option most of the time.
This one looks cheap, they have a long way to go to catch up Leisure travel van
I've always been looking for the impossible. a luxury van with only 2 single beds or 1 double bed further lots of space a bathroom and a good kitchen and solar. all this under 3,000 pounds but still not found am I really demanding so much?
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, who the heck is designing these horrible layouts? Once again with the huge bathroom and ZERO kitchen counter space. This is the biggest reason I'll probably go with a custom van conversion. I like to cook wayyyy more than I like hanging out in the loo. 😂
Oldsmobile called and want their trademarks back /s . My dad had a 1983 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Brougham and back in the 70's / 80's those names meant luxury.
In 2019, I'm not so sure. Time for a new marketing executive.
The more of these expensive cheaply made RVs I see, the more convinced I become that the only option for me is a custom build by a high end builder like Advanced RV. Rather than pay 150k-200k for a poorly made, poorly designed RV, I'd rather just pay 250k and get a true lifetime quality rig that is designed and built to my exact specifications. Some are better than others, but it seems that most mainstream RV manufacturers are stuck in this low quality rut.
Neal..love class B id consider class C..if shorter say 19 feet! Want to park in a space for cars..love your videos!❤
So just OK. No safety features makes it no sale for some. Bed could be smaller. Kitchen needs to be bigger. My Doug score is 35 out of 100. Maybe I’m just not a person that likes the expensive look and feel over form and function.
No Lithium upgrade in 2019 really dates this build. Generator are noisy, making it a problem in some campgrounds.
Thanks for you opinion and review of this camper. As always see you in your next review
Dale - thanks for sharing your thoughts on the Ultra Brougham! Enjoyed reading them.
Thought you preview a camper van with a Murphy bed. Is that possible?
I went to look at the 2020 Thor Sequence 20 foot today, wondering if it is a rebadged Hymer
At first blush, I liked this... beautiful brown interior fabrics and color choices. But, it looks like they intentionally copied Leisure Travel's signature window style and paint, but not the quality. LTV's compartment doors are thick, insulated, and solid-latching. The whole vehicle is designed and insulated for Canadian winters. The Regency looks slapped together just so they could have a vehicle in that so-called B+ segment. Back to the drawing board, Regency... and to the boardroom, to invest more money into your product.
Is it possible to review the new rear bath beyond by coachmen?
Lol! Has a 2014 loud as heck AC unit!!
thanks for sharing that
Thanks for the review. It is a nice design. I still like the Leisure Travel Wonder Mb better.
Good choice!
Sorry for going into details, but your calculations for carrying capacity does not reflect actual tank sizes in this unit. Calcs used 30 gallons but actual tanks are smaller fresh and larger gray. Only questioning this as your driver/passenger weights may not be realistic.
Agree that driver/passenger weight estimates are on the low side, and that seems to be consistent within the industry. They all use 180/130, which I'd be is lower than average for Americans, though perhaps only because I live in the hearty midwest . If you increase the passenger weight total for taller/larger people, say +100 lbs, and add a 50 lb dog, the CCC doesn't look as generous. Realistic CCC is definitely a consideration for us. Coachmen does better with their class B's. Recognizing that it takes a while to retool assembly lines, still not sure why American manufacturers haven't done more to explore Azdel and other lighter materials for cabinetry and interiors, to reduce weight the way Canadian & European manufacturers seem to have. Would be another way to increase CCC by reducing weight of interior materials.
@@conniebilyeu4434 coach house in Florida is using lightweight marine grade wood from Europe in their outfits. I believe Embassy RV in Indiana is also doing the same. Looking forward to Hershey RV show for the former but the latter will only be at Tampa's show.
DONT LIKE THE SIDE ENTRY FROM LAUNDRY ROOM 🙄 😒
I see that you are at Happy Daze in Sacramento. In your opinion, are they a good dealer from which to buy a PW? Compared to LaMesa?
Sales seems to be a good group. not so sure about their service department.
Personally i like the xalta model best cause its more 4 season (shocker I know lol)
Good Review Neal! Thank You!
Carrie Jo thank you for watching!
It really annoys me that during the planning for these RVs they do not account for prep space. Drives me bonkers.
agree - rv designers please use the galleys.
And where does one put pots and pans...plates?
Looks like old house inside. Not attractive material
Looking for a dealer in the New England area
Nice review Neil, this really is a 2020 model
thank you so much for watching craig!
Hideous interior colors.
ben, have to agree that they need some assistance with their interior designs. looks dated to me.
Agree. Beige, brown, gold definitely 1970's.. all they need is to add avocado and poppy accents and it'd be a perfect reflection of that era. Been there, done that, deadly blah.
Neil, isn’t the Regency a 4 season rig?
likely but i have not verified that yet. the compartments must be heated and well insulated.
Ultramobility They are heated.
Isn't Regency a division of Leisure Travel vans, or used to be, and that's why they can build an exact copy of the Unity.
hi, paul. not as far as i am aware. both regency and airstream copied the leisure travel unity mb floor plan.
Looks like a poorly reverse engineered Leisure Tvl MB
Great review. Unimpressive RV. Leaning towards Isata
I am fat. I don't weigh any where near 160. I think the average male is going to be 200. I would add another 100 pounds for occupants. I like the lay out. The passthrough door is Scary and the baggage doors would not be acceptable on a 10k travel trailer. I still like it, but not at this price.
if i put down 200lbs then a ton of viewers will skewer me! i figure go lower and beg forgiveness than go higher and run for your life.
@@Ultramobility I enjoyed the review, thanks.
poor attempt to copy a Leisure Travel Van...and they're great with quality but behind on the technology side....3 way fridge, no Lithium, weak inverter. Volta makes the best mousetraps for energy these days seems like.
good points all around for how they can improve future models! thanks for sharing.
160 pound driver 😂
ack. i'm getting pounded for that!
Ultramobility That’s because Americans are typically overweight; not healthy.
I’m 6’ and 160 pounds. My wife is 5’3” and 115 pounds.
So you’re right on for us.
Another junky rv manufacturer with cheap design that is way overpriced! Great video Neil though!
I like unity better
Don't buy regency RV.
I feel sorry for anyone who purchased this.
just curious paul - why do you say this?
@@Ultramobility So little for so much money, can get so much better for the price. The lack of safety features plus the shortcuts on the outdoor doors and locks is a bit of a joke. So much more but I have to work now.
This guy spends WAY TOO MUCH TIME ON CAMERA....Nobody wants to see you bro, they wanna see the Rv's.