Is Bigger Always Better? Built Chevy K10 vs. Big Green Ep.3
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- Big Green meets a fully-built 1976 Chevy K10 rock crawler. Is this what our 1985 K10 could be? (which is also for sale: denver.craigsli... )
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waht the hell happened to commercials now? back then they made sense, with real situations and real products, now dudes are dropping toolboxes onto trucks they just built like it just doesn't make sense
Because they talk to the public consumer like their 3 years old. In the day they respected the consumers as grown up mature people that had backbone and character
Sonny DEE I totally agree..
Who else notice something in these old commercials that reminds us on some happier and better times?..
I love the old square body
Same here. New trucks have a weak, crappie body. Older trucks were better.
Just slap a fuel injected LS3 in big green. That white truck is nice but not 18g nice.
I would give 18k for an ls3 truck like big green
Nothing works like a Chevy truck! 2 old beasts still running on original engines 30-40 years later.
Dale Couture did you miss the whole "can't keep up with traffic" part?
Christmas Gummyworm they got 70s 350s in em what u expect
Not much of an issue for a "work truck," which is what these were sold as. Plus speed limits were a lot lower back then...still does a mile a minute, uphill, at 7,000' MSL.
Christmas Gummyworm The one they were driving wasn't a 350. It was a 305. 30 years old in a lifted truck with giant tires going up a hill. Of course it can't keep up! Still running though! The 350 was running strong too.
Dale Couture FORD FOR THE WIN!!!😁
Go grab an 8.1l from a salvage yard. Painless makes a harness for it, pick your flavor of trans, atlas transfer case, 4.56 gears with lockers, upgrade the axles. Done.
Ricky McCafferty
How much would that set up run?
8.1, 496 with Allison Transmission, great set up. Had one, knew where all the gas stations where.
I love those old commercials they make me laugh so hard 😂😂😂 "you mean I don't have to get out and lock the hubs??" lol how times have changed
Put a 454 or 572 just something big block and with a carb or maybe if u got the money a 12v cummins
I wouldn't feed a stock K10 that much jam without upgrading the running gear. All that horsepower, start crumpling Corporate 10-bolt axle shafts. I think they're looking to swap the engine only.
I just bought a 1975 GMC square body and I love it.
keep it old school. carbureted big block.
My opinion for a crate motor would be a 383 with aftermarket EFI...like Holley. A 6.0 iron block would be cool too but it'd be sweet to keep it old school with modern upgrades instead of a restomod.
Y'all should give it a fuel injected 350 or 383.
a 383 9:1 with 180cc afr heads and a small cam is perfect for that truck. but, free motor from gm would mean getting a crate 6.0 or 6.2
Digging the excerpts from old school commercials!
502 or 454 big block v8! as long as it isn't no weak v6 like ecoboost!
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kyjoe9 383 stroker
If an ecoboost is a weak v6....what does a strong one look like?
the eco boost v6 is pretty bad ass actually. but if you want a STRONG v6 go with a 1960s chevy v6 like something out of a dump truck
Too bad that "weak" Ecoboost V6 puts out more HP and TQ than a Big Block 454 truck engine ever did. Stupid Chevtards.
I think a 383 stroker would be great in the truck
Nothing works like a chevy truck.....
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Thank you!
Some of Romans best work. I liked it well enough to put it on FB.
T Ritchie I agree
the big problem is that your under geared im guessing. with 35 and the 4 speed you need atleast 4.10s
If you want to go more modern, it's hard to beat an LS conversion. Lots of people have done them.
People are just yelling out swaps that are so commonplace or the absolute biggest and most expensive engines they can think of. *"DROP A LSX IN THERE!! NO WAIT, MAKE THAT A 572 BIG BLOCK!! YEAH!!!"* And honestly, anything you really could put in there is something we've probably already thought of or have seen a 1,000,000x over. How about putting in something we aren't expecting?
Thanks for the feedback. You have a point there.
3.5l Ecoboost!
292 I6 built for tons of low end torque.
I say find a 500 cadillac. they are torque monster stock
detroit 453t,or a cummins 4bt,maybe even a perkins,but the truck is great how it is,why mess with it? 305's suck,but if it's working and running let her be,there are plenty of destroyed modified k-10,and 20's out there.
I've said it once and I will say it again: a junkyard 5.3 swap is the answer! You can make crazy hp out of the stock engine components and the entire trucks sell around here for a dime a dozen. I voted for the LS3 on your website though.
I just wanted to say that I loved this video.
Thanks!
This on one of my favorite TFL Truck videos yet and I've been subscribed for about a year and a half
" Nothing works like a Chevy Truck " Facts!! Man this made me miss my K5 Blazer I had back in the day. I have to find a K10 now.☺👍👍
Troycee Stone I have an 85 k10 shortbed Silverado with 2002 Corvette swap let me know if your interested
18k for a truck with rust? Guys a little nutty... So you got a set of military axles (2k on a really REALLY good day 1500 IRL) 350 with a few mods... why not a twin stick 205? sm465... pennies to buy. And a k10 frame rather than a k30... and lift work. Meh... Aint seeing 18k with rust.
Matt Lane he done it himself and took along time admire his work that he put in
Unless there is something really wrong with the stock engine I would just rebuild it. Maybe add a turbo for those uphill climbs. I think it's the gearing that is the main problem, those tires are not stock. My f-150 had the 4.9l strait 6, it would go fast uphills in 3rd gear with stock tire size.
I don't know what the truck market is there, but that guy is pretty hopeful to get 18k for that. Nice capable rig but the only trucks fetching that coin are original low mileage trucks. goodluck
Oh God that commercial was terrible. No wonder they switched to the "Like A Rock" and "Heartbeat of America" themes.
Of course you did, you're a Ford guy lol.
Once you swap a crate engine into that truck, what will the fate be for that 305?
You could send that little 305 to NC, I'll give it a home in one of my projects...
Put an old but not so old Duramax 6.6 LML in it, beef up the suspension put new macho wheels and tires and undercoat the frame.
4 speed transmission with 454 big block or Alison with duramax
Go 454! They sound amazing and can tow pretty well!
350. keep it close to what it was stock and leave it carbuerated as well. original is the best or as close to original as possible atleast. if you are going to stray from original put a Duramax or a detroit diesel in it
I agree personally id do some work to the 305 like headers,cam heads, intake and exhaust or drop a 350 with some mods i got a 305 in my 88 and i dont find it gutless i can do 100km/hr up taylor hill which is a 10% grade with a corner in the middle and it sounds amazing even with stock muffler on i find its harder to find old trucks that are left stock most are stupidly modified but thats just my opinion
they really should leave this truck manual transmission too
People that dont build engines for a living say things like this ... blasphemy
That truck is not worth $18k!
Mekhanic1 no way I'd pay that. same truck here in western ny no more than 10k. There was a stock k5 Blazer in nice shape for 5k'
Mekhanic1 did you not see all that's done to it? I bet he has much more than that put into it.
Mekhanic1 it's worth it too people that pay that for it...your opinion holds zero merit to that given fact
Michel Linschoten Someone will damn well pay that. Not saying I would, but it'll sell.
You couldnt buy a solid K anything and build it to this degree for the money. I repair your builds day in day out Mr "That truck is not worth $18k"! You aint fooling anyone but the noobs. I wouldnt let you air up my lawn mower tires.
I ljust love the front end on the 70
ls swap all the way.
TFL, your videos have helped MANY of us decide on our truck purchases the last couple years!! Just like he said your videos is reason he bought Tundra! AWESOME!!
lol the engine I'd put in there is a 12 Valve Cummins
You can't even spell the thing.
and would add what 1000+ lb's in the process
Ben King I was just thinking that, I'd be happy even sticking a 4bt in there wouldn't be bad
i made this comment at 4 in the morning, gotta give me some credit
see diesel for the win
Like the channel, but neither guy here seems to know much about the osb's. On another note, I vote Duramax/Allison or Common rail Cummins/ Allison, but then you'd have to run a ford front or divorced 205 t-case. Unless someone has come out with an adapter to mate the 205 to the Allison.
Ram Jet 350. Affordable crate engine with decent power. Modern fuel system/electronics but keeps the classic look. Inexpensive to swap as well.
put a nice 350 small block putting out around 350hp in it and put 4.10 gears in it.
that's all you need. go efi if you want the better reliability, fuel efficiency, and a smoother power band
@The Fast Lane Truck Do something that others don't. Throw a tuned Duramax/Allison in there. Even a used LBZ or something. Do it up right make it look factory under the hood. You'd have a hotrod that I haven't been able to find anywhere on TH-cam. Plus everyone does big engines or Cummins swaps, dare to be different...
Excellent point sir. I was thinking the exact same thing
Actually, C/K10+ Duramax swaps aren't really anything new, quite a few people have done them. And I have no idea why you haven't seen any on YT. They are there.
***** 90 percent of the swaps are Cummins engines. No one ever said we did not see the swap. Thanks for the enlightenment.
Ruins the truck you have a simple easy to work on reliable truck, slap a POS new diesel of all things in you might as well just buy a new truck. Cummin 12v is still a SIMPLE motor that is why you see them going in...
Matt Lane nobody said they weren't reliable or cool easy. I said they're everywhere and the a Duramax would be different. If it was a Ford I would have said 6.7 power stroke, but it's a Chevy so I say newer Duramax. An 800hp twin turbo smallblock isn't as reliable as others as well but guess what, people do it anyway. Like I said in my opening comment, dare to be different.
Pretty sure the rear shocks are upside down on the white K10
NO 5.7 HAD 250 + HP BACK THEN MORE LIKE 220 TOPS
VORTEC 5700 makes 255 hp from 1996-03 and 330.5 lbs ft tq.
How about putting a built GM LL8 Atlas straight 6 engine in Big Green ?? Or a built 292 I6 ?? That's something different :) Something different is always fun !!!
Big block or a 383 small block with a self learning throttle body. Keep it simple.
my 86 used to have the same setup, 305 + sm465 + np208, replaced all that because it was not up to snuff any longer, still a great drive train for putting around, but not keeping up with modern rigs.
I thought this truck looked familiar! CK5!!!
Nice truck , but the problem they never addressed for 50 years is that tiny cab . If you're 6"2 like myself , you can forget it . It becomes misery in about 10 miles
this is what im talkin about! REAL trucks not some CRV with a bed on it. for the motor either a 454 or a 12v cummins. if u go fuel injection then get an LSX
Classic Chevy? Anything other than a 454 is blasphemous.
waibelr right on !!!! When in doubt big block it out !!! Like a man
Your best vid ever! Awesome. Time for a TV show on Discovery Channel. And... Chevy forever!!!
Duramax 👍🏻
ZZ6 part #19351533 and put a lunch box in the back diff(minimum)
The passenger side fender butchery on the '76 kills me. Would it have really taken that much effort to do it right???
And LS swaps are common because THEY WORK. You want good power out of an easily available motor with good/cheap parts availability in a small package? The answer is LS.
However, for Big Green I'd just swap in a 350. They're a dine a dozen used, or pretty reasonable as a crate motor, AND it'll be plug and play.
Or go the route that "Dirt Every Day" went with their K30, and swap in a GM crate LSA (the supercharged 6.2 from the Caddy CTS-V and Camaro ZL1), Awesome channel, btw, check it out!
If GM is going to assist with a crate motor, stay with the idea of keeping the theme of an "all GM components" truck. To make the swap as easy as possible, and as road worthy and usable as possible, going with a nice healthy Vortec style GM performance 383 small block stroker motor (GM Part #19332529 340H.P., 435 Lb-Ft. of torque), upgrade the cooling system, an E.F.I. system(Holley, Mallory, etc.), a modernized ignition system(say..., Mallory) and focus on your drivetrain with some gears from Yukon Gear, say 4.10:1(original 4-speed) or 4.33:1 (if you were to option out a later model 5-speed or 6-speed option, which would certainly help the over-the-road ability) with the size of tires you're using and add a set of ARB air lockers, or Detroit lockers. From that point, make sure all of your wear components like u-joints, seals, etc. are replaced and maintained, good brakes and a GOOD set of shocks like the Bilstiens on the 76 in the video, or a set of Fox shocks if you can get them. P.S.; I tried to drop a few names that you might try to get some "sponsorship" help from to gentlemen. Good luck and happy building!
if it's a crate engine Gota have a 350. if it's going all out get a new 5.3 with a new six speed transmission. or the new 6.2 v8...
What gear ratio does Big Green have. My '80 Powerwagon has 3.2ish gears. It also has the granny low first gear NP-435 transmission, turning 35" mud tires. Still running the original 360 4bbl, and the part of watching you guys bouncing around the cab, made me smile. My PW is like that, 4" lift, but it's a long bed, club cab, when my daughter was 6, her first ride in the truck, she looked at me, and said this is like riding in the back of a school bus. 15 years later I've gathered Dana 60 axles, NP-205 transfer case, and the 1 ton drive shafts. Going from 1/2 ton to 1 ton drive train. I think gear ratio is still to high, I wanted 4.10.
The small block 400 with a few tweaks would be unstoppable. I loved my 383 back in high school but, to make it what it was I found an incredible deal and had endless race parts to tweak it. The 400 would have been much more justifiable if every part needed was new from wallet. Nothing sounds like a good old carbureted.
Getting to the point. Any engine can be loud. All you need is a crappy exhaust system. You could find a late model LS3 at about any salvage yard for cheap that would bury any stock carb Chevrolet engine. Or buy new LS3 430hp 425tq for $8,ooo. That is a decent engine for less than $10,000 that will be faster, get good mileage, and as loud as you tune the exhaust. But, you should already know all that.
502 ,, vortec 8.1 or the new duramax
2 Choices. #1 With 461 horsepower and 558 lb-ft of torque, our 502 HO crate engine has power on tap for every need - whether it’s a ’69 Chevelle at the drag strip or the Suburban that towed it there! #2 The HT502 is rated at 406 horsepower and a whopping 541 lb-ft of trailer-tugging torque. That’s more than the factory ever offered and more than you’ll get with a stock-type rebuild. It is uniquely suited to pre-1978 trucks, but is adaptable to a variety of applications.
My truck has 40s and the speedomter stayed the same but i guess its because its a New 2018 3500
Engines i would like to see in big green: Chevy 454, Olds 455, Cadillac 500, Duramax 6.6, any LS engine with a turbo
Why the Cadillac 500, those had no horsepower!
The Fast Lane Truck I Swapped a 427 BIG Block(TALL DECK) Medium Duty GM Truck engine into my 1979 chev K10 4X4 it's pretty much bullet proof. lots of torque and it's doesn't give up to anybody on a hill.
I own a 76 k10 frame with Dana 44's with 82 cab & stepside. 350+.060 over 268-272 cam. 1.5 roller rockers, edelbrock performer combo intake/650 Manuel choke carb. I figure maybe 350 375 hp
Let the "Green Machine" be truly green and make it eco-conscious. I vote for 6.2L E-rod with 6L90E, Atlas 4 speed transfer case. I'm in Southern California and would like to see an emissions legal "expedition" style truck.
Nothing works like a Chevy truck... Nothing works like a Chevy truck! That's a pretty catchy campaign. Makes me want to sell my Kia and buy a K10 with a dump truck transmission!
I have a 383, with a edelbrock 650 4 barrel carb, high flow mechanical fuel pump headers and straight pipe. 3 speed with granny gear 36 inch tires by 10.5 inches wide 16 inch rim and that things sounds and runs excellent. but if I were to do a swap I'd go with 6.0 just saying
I have a 396 BBC in my k20 with Dana 60 up front an 14 bolt rear built turbo 400 an 205 transfer case with a 10 inch lift on 44 but truck was built for mud so needs interior but I'm 15 an was a project I wanted an plan on fully restoring it in my 20's can't beat them old square body's
@TheFastLaneTruck : Ram Jet 350 crate engine with electric radiator fan would be the perfect engine for big green, you can buy it straight from Chevrolet online, I'm sure Chevrolet might even give you a discount or something for advertising posibly.
You don't need a bigger motor, you need better gearing.
But honestly I was just upgrade to a 350 stroker making it a 383 with a newer 5-speed or 6-speed transmission obviously manual fully built with high flowing heads cams and everything to match whatever I wanted to do with this vehicle
What are the specs on big green? What axles, lockers or not, gear ratios? If it has the stock 3.08 gears then that's why you don't have any power. A pair of truetracs with 4.56 gears would make it unstoppable off road without a new engine.
My 87 had the TBI 350 and a Hypertech chip with no mufflers and dual pipes after the cat. It never lacked for power, and it sounded great! It would break over the 35s even though it only had 3.42s, although that was always a bad idea in a 200,000 mile 10-bolt that would grenade the spider gears every few years. The 1987 TBI setup was good for an additional 50 HP over the carbureted from the previous years, but the Cold War-era OBD system wasn't particularly adept at giving you useful codes when things started going wrong. I think you should just build a mild 350 for the truck and use a modern aftermarket OBD2 fuel injection solution. You'll have the best of both worlds: a bolt-in engine, built of affordable, common parts, that plays good with modern scan tools.
Big green needs a Big Block and an axle upgrade
The easiest would be a 400 small block. My dog could make the modifications necessary to make it fit, and anything bigger would threaten the stock drivetrain. Just throw in a fresh clutch and you'll add at least 100 horsepower.
"I GOT A TUNDRA" what a classic lol!
jmoo72 He's a smart man
If you can get one (1) an staight 6 crate motor. Everyone can and does to v-8 but straight 6 will be a challenge. Tons of torque.If you can't ge something from GM I know people that can do the job.
Me, I would put a 375 horse 327 myself, not a fan of 350s cause every body has one. What ever you do, do some thing deferent than what every one else would do! At least try and keep it stock looking!
The old chevy were the best, why? Because it's made in America! Now this guy got a Tundra and "it's a great truck", why? Again, because it's made in America!!
Go for an e-rod ls3, more than enough power for it in a really manageable package. If they want to advertise their more expensive/modern stuff swing for an lt4 but in my eyes it'd be too much.
If you want to save money, and GM gives you a crate motor, add Edelbrock's E street EFI which is a very simplistic system that would help you guys with all the elevation changes and cold weather.
The fast lane truck is always the first thing I watch on TH-cam. You guys always make great videos. I'm a die hard truck guy and I can't wait to watch all your videos in 2017. Great video
+Kyle Hereygers thanks for watching and thanks for the kind words. Very much appreciated!
No k10 Chevy with sawzalled fenders, a stock 350 and a hacked up frame is worth 18k. But it's still worth keeping vs. an over priced turdra
I love your channel! You guys are a bunch of fun to watch!
Cool, I suppose.... but it's fugly, almost all trucks with flat beds are. Even worse that it's so short. Too much lift, as well.
To each their own, though.
Readers remember, they're looking for a sponsored unit. So likely the compromise will be between what TFLtruck would like to get and what GM feels they need to steer attention toward. So maybe one of the better, yet lower selling units.
I wanna upgrade from the 5.7Vortec multi port EFI engine I upgraded to 10 years ago to the newer LS1 engine and 4L60 Series trans with tow haul mode now
I have a k10 with the 454ss motor and turbo 475 transmission it has the stock Suspension with 37" tires and 20" wheels
8100 Vortec crate engine would be great for weight distribution in Big Green or put a 6.2L in for higher stock horsepower and torque but you can get creative and put an LS Stroker in it.
only 81 and 82 had the turn signal/running lamps in the bumper. 83-87 trucks, they were moved behind the grill or under the headlights in later models
lmao chevtards. wanting 18k for a truck that's hacked up and rusted. you could buy a truck in Alabama in way better shape for way less.
Please just dont put an LS in it. I know its a chevy but LS is so boring now days. Maybe the Cummins crate motor they just released, or a Big block chevy? Or even a diesel v8 out of the HDs?
Thinking about it more, I think a 454 or a 383 stroker or even a 350 built up or with a blower would be really cool. It would still be classic with those and unique now days since everyone drops modern motors in. I think a 350 with power adders would be really neat to see what they were capable of in its hay day. Likely a cheap build too.
Merp where im from ( farm land ) everyone and there dog has a cummins swap, in there ford, in there jeep, you name it, sure its nice to have enough torque to pull a house over, although the amount of fun you could have with a nice hi revving gasser is the reason i would choose it. cummins motos are heavy, its quite the slab of iron to hang above the front suspension, i feel it would potetialy take away from the handling. all my opinions though!
Merp they said modern engine..
A GM 8100 would be nice in there...
I doubt GM would sponsor a Cummins swap.
You need to get a Gale Banks eco diesel, they have one built with 300 hp and 500+ torque with a HD 6 speed GM
transmission and all the electronics to go with it.
I wanna see more Big green and that commercial! I can't find that commercial anywhere...
Agreed 383 strokes; their to many ls swaps. Show us what you can do with a old school carb 383 and prove you can still make big power like they use to build them!
If you decide to make a customized gauge cluster for your truck, like this one I know someone who has just about any GM van / truck guage imaginable.
I'd go with a old carbureted built 350. the hole point of having the big green k10 on the fast lane truck is to compare old
Technology to new technology.
The headlights are not quads because of the trim level of the truck. Big Green is a base model which is evident by the lack of headliner, black gauge cluster, and short door panels.