@@whatgoesup8972 fair enough. No hardtail will make the trail disappear however Chromags are on the stiffer end of the spectrum. Have you tried any tire inserts?
Hi Michael - I have not tried tire inserts yet, but they are on the short list of upgrades I'd like to make. I have a friend that rides a Chromag and he swears by them. I think for the kind of riding there is around here, they make a lot of sense.
@@whatgoesup8972 I’ve got 4 different versions I’m going to try. As a fellow HT rider I’ll share my results. I’ll be testing Cushcore, Tannus Tubeless, Rimpact and the FTD II. First up is the FTD II.
Great video! It seems that you are enjoying the mullet. Keep having fun. I really like the fact that your videos are family friendly and you don’t curse like many other you tubers.
I recently mulleted my hardtail 26er with a 29" fork and 27.5 front wheel, and it was worth the effort for me. The bike was just scary with the short wheel base and sharp head angle before. It obviously climbs worse, but I have no problem down-hilling it now on trails people mostly take full suspension bikes.
jeez dude, going up to demo forest and then east towards seymour all the way up to forever after and down sounds like the most violent way to try a completely different and new setup, let alone the fact that your fit is now considerably more pitched back, super gnarly! What did you find out about the different geometry that came along with it (slacker head angle, higher stack, shorter reach, slightly higher BB)? I would imagine people would reap the benefits of a mullet setup more so if it ended up upsizing their front wheel instead of downsizing their rear wheel of their current wheelset/ the wheelset they were used to. Your commentary gave me the vibe that the extra wide rubber in the rear was a more noticeable and appreciable factor than the split wheel size for this ride! Cant wait to see more tinkering around with the rootdown; lots of potential with playing around with geo, especially with an adjustable fork that I think I noticed(?) you turning the dial on the left stanchion before descending.
Hi Hersh, yes, I do have an adjustable front fork (from 140mm - 160mm) and when it was in climbing position (140mm) it was actually more comfortable on a long ride with the mullet setup. Partly because the frame is a bit small for me (I should have an L instead of an M/L), so I end up a little hunched over when I have the same size wheels on. I did bite off a lot for the first ride with that setup, but it worked great. I went for a ride on the fun lower Fromme trails yesterday with the mullet and I'll do a video about that as well. It was super playful on things like Bobsled and Floppy Bunny. Overall, the extra grip in the back was the biggest noticeable and welcome difference. I was on 29ers before, so downsizing the back tire. With the wet roots and mud, it was great to have the bigger tire back there.
@@whatgoesup8972 Good stuff! The increased attack position of a lower travel is definitely a life changer for those really grueling climbs. I on the rare end of the stick really enjoy a slightly undersized bike, I found that to ring especially true on 29ers. what otherwise might feel potentially a little sluggish and not as agile (lively?) say in tight corners or windy singletrack as a 27.5 or 26, can be combatted, or at the very least be made a little more playful and nimble by just shrinking the proportions ever so slightly, although at the drawbacks of climbing comfort. looking forward to many more fun videos that seems to always make me get off my ass and go ride!
Thanks! It is a fun set up. I just did a video (I'll post soon I hope) of ride #2 on the mullet bike on Bobsled and Floppy Bunny and it is even more fun on those flowy trails. I'm going to keep this set up for the winter for sure. Hope to see you out there!
Great riding in beautiful scenery! What tire width are the tires? The simple comparison between 29" 2.3 vs 27,5+" 3.0 shows that the outer diameter is identical at 740 mm, so the geometry of the bike should stay the same. The contact patch, cushioning and bike feel can be a great benefit of this idea. Especially, it is a hardtail and a beauty by the way ;)
Hi Jack, My rear tire is 2.8" wide. I haven't actually measured how the standing height of them compares, but I'll do that. Maybe it's that I can run the rear tire a little softer, but I definitely feel like the geometry is a touch slacker... hmmm.
I agree with Michael great solid riding and testing man👊🚲My setup is the same but on a Ragley Big Al I love Mullet totally unlocks the bike I can live with differences. 2.6 WTB Vigilante front 2.8 Schwalbe Nobby Nic rear💪
I've currently got Minion DHF (front) and DHR (rear), 2.5 width, stickiest rubber available. They are definitely a good winter tire for these parts, not so much in summer time. I also like to run High Roller 2s - they've been a good year round tyre for me.
Dude, you’re killing it. Some of the best hardtail riding on the tube and solid period!
Thanks Michael! Sometimes it feels like the trails are killing me, but it's still fun!
@@whatgoesup8972 fair enough. No hardtail will make the trail disappear however Chromags are on the stiffer end of the spectrum. Have you tried any tire inserts?
Hi Michael - I have not tried tire inserts yet, but they are on the short list of upgrades I'd like to make. I have a friend that rides a Chromag and he swears by them. I think for the kind of riding there is around here, they make a lot of sense.
@@whatgoesup8972 I’ve got 4 different versions I’m going to try. As a fellow HT rider I’ll share my results. I’ll be testing Cushcore, Tannus Tubeless, Rimpact and the FTD II. First up is the FTD II.
Sounds good! I'll check out how that goes - I'm looking at inserts now.
Great video!
It seems that you are enjoying the mullet. Keep having fun.
I really like the fact that your videos are family friendly and you don’t curse like many other you tubers.
Thanks Abraham and the mullet bike is fun. I wasn't planning on setting it up this way but I think I'll keep it like this for the rest of the winter.
Great riding and video! I have my Trek Slash as a mullet set up, but just mullet my Norco Torrent S. Can’t wait to try it! 🤘
Thanks for spending the time to bring us along. I really enjoyed everything I hope you do more. Subscribed
insane riding on a hardtail, those trails look amazing. Hoping I will get a chance to ride these some day.
Great riding as always! Those trails are harder than they look on GoPro... plus the wet....🤙
Thanks Drew. I'm always surprised by how relatively tame the trails look on the GoPro when I know I was white-knuckling it through some sections!
Best video yet 👏🏾
Thanks Jag!
I recently mulleted my hardtail 26er with a 29" fork and 27.5 front wheel, and it was worth the effort for me. The bike was just scary with the short wheel base and sharp head angle before. It obviously climbs worse, but I have no problem down-hilling it now on trails people mostly take full suspension bikes.
Awesome ht riding! ❤
That's some hard riding trail on a mullet lots of dew on the ground. You doing great.
Thanks Enrique!
jeez dude, going up to demo forest and then east towards seymour all the way up to forever after and down sounds like the most violent way to try a completely different and new setup, let alone the fact that your fit is now considerably more pitched back, super gnarly!
What did you find out about the different geometry that came along with it (slacker head angle, higher stack, shorter reach, slightly higher BB)? I would imagine people would reap the benefits of a mullet setup more so if it ended up upsizing their front wheel instead of downsizing their rear wheel of their current wheelset/ the wheelset they were used to. Your commentary gave me the vibe that the extra wide rubber in the rear was a more noticeable and appreciable factor than the split wheel size for this ride!
Cant wait to see more tinkering around with the rootdown; lots of potential with playing around with geo, especially with an adjustable fork that I think I noticed(?) you turning the dial on the left stanchion before descending.
Hi Hersh, yes, I do have an adjustable front fork (from 140mm - 160mm) and when it was in climbing position (140mm) it was actually more comfortable on a long ride with the mullet setup. Partly because the frame is a bit small for me (I should have an L instead of an M/L), so I end up a little hunched over when I have the same size wheels on.
I did bite off a lot for the first ride with that setup, but it worked great. I went for a ride on the fun lower Fromme trails yesterday with the mullet and I'll do a video about that as well. It was super playful on things like Bobsled and Floppy Bunny. Overall, the extra grip in the back was the biggest noticeable and welcome difference. I was on 29ers before, so downsizing the back tire. With the wet roots and mud, it was great to have the bigger tire back there.
@@whatgoesup8972 Good stuff! The increased attack position of a lower travel is definitely a life changer for those really grueling climbs.
I on the rare end of the stick really enjoy a slightly undersized bike, I found that to ring especially true on 29ers. what otherwise might feel potentially a little sluggish and not as agile (lively?) say in tight corners or windy singletrack as a 27.5 or 26, can be combatted, or at the very least be made a little more playful and nimble by just shrinking the proportions ever so slightly, although at the drawbacks of climbing comfort. looking forward to many more fun videos that seems to always make me get off my ass and go ride!
Hersh, I agree - making a 29er more nimble but still keeping the benefits is a bonus of this set up!
Great vid., I actually found this while googling the exact same thing for my Rootdown. I live in North Van, so maybe I'll see you out on the trails.
Thanks! It is a fun set up. I just did a video (I'll post soon I hope) of ride #2 on the mullet bike on Bobsled and Floppy Bunny and it is even more fun on those flowy trails. I'm going to keep this set up for the winter for sure. Hope to see you out there!
@@whatgoesup8972 Will look forward to it. And i may have missed it - did you say what wheel you were on (and tire) ?
I may have to try out this setup! Great video!
It is working for me! Thanks for the feedback.
Great control; congratulation!
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice riding, good to somebody else its doing videos on hardtails on hardcore trails.
Thanks Rin!
I see you don't bother shuttling up to your runs. Basically pedal up and send it back home! That's a rad dad!
I do worry that I'm breathing too hard into the mic on the camera at some points! I'm definitely into the "use it or lose it" stage of life though.
@@whatgoesup8972 exactly. It goes fast past 45 ;).
Great riding in beautiful scenery! What tire width are the tires? The simple comparison between 29" 2.3 vs 27,5+" 3.0 shows that the outer diameter is identical at 740 mm, so the geometry of the bike should stay the same. The contact patch, cushioning and bike feel can be a great benefit of this idea. Especially, it is a hardtail and a beauty by the way ;)
Hi Jack, My rear tire is 2.8" wide. I haven't actually measured how the standing height of them compares, but I'll do that. Maybe it's that I can run the rear tire a little softer, but I definitely feel like the geometry is a touch slacker... hmmm.
The big tires are generally run much softer and tend to sag quite a bit. The geo would fore sure be affected.
I agree with Michael great solid riding and testing man👊🚲My setup is the same but on a Ragley Big Al I love Mullet totally unlocks the bike I can live with differences. 2.6 WTB Vigilante front 2.8 Schwalbe Nobby Nic rear💪
Thanks Robert! "Unlocks the bike" is a great way of describing it - it's like it powers up all the fun attributes!
Hi...I have the 2021 Big Al Frame only...are you still riding Mullet setup? What fork set up did you go with? Cheers.
Deceptive editing... How far from front door to trailhead? ;)
About 10mins riding from front door to trailhead.
next video idea, 27.5+ in front 29 in back?? it uhh helps with the climbs, yeah totally...
I heard that's a thing... really can't picture that working well unless you like rides that are 99% climbing!
YEWWW
Yeeaaaahhhh
You need a proper fender ! I rock a rootdown through every trail in Squamish.
Yes I do! I get a lot of mud in the eye, always at the worst time (not that there's a good time).
Wow you can ride
Just curious, what tyres are you running?
I've currently got Minion DHF (front) and DHR (rear), 2.5 width, stickiest rubber available. They are definitely a good winter tire for these parts, not so much in summer time. I also like to run High Roller 2s - they've been a good year round tyre for me.
@@whatgoesup8972 ok thanks :)
was this originally a 29er or 27.5 frame?
This frame is designed as a 29er frame that can take 27.5+ tires. I usually run the 29s and the 27.5+ in the wet winter, but mullet has been fun!
@@whatgoesup8972 great! Ill have something to model my build soon