Winching Logs with a Tractor Uphill | Skidding Cone Saved the Day
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- Today I'm out recovering trees that were blown down over the last few months in one of the many wind storms that has hit my area. Using one of my useful tools; the tractor winch, I'm bringing these wind-damaged trees from a low-lying area of the forest, uphill to my skidding trail. One of the downsides of working on such rough and steep terrain is that the walking can be difficult and dangerous. Add in a touch of snow and the ground is slippery as I'm trying to snake my way through the down trees and stumps to attach the choker chains and winch line to my trees. The easy part is pulling the rope attached to my Wallenstein FX85 skidding winch which then takes over the hard work and pulls the trees to my landing area. One thing is for certain, this winch has more power than I think I"ll ever use. As you'll see in today's video, at one point a log got caught against a stump and instead of stalling the tractor, the winch pulled the stump right out of the ground with the log. Now that's power! Glad everyone is here and hope your'e all doing well, here we go!
Tractor used in this video: 2012 Kioti DK40se HST (32 pto hp)
Winch used in this video: Wallenstein FX85 skidding winch
Skidding cone used in this video: Portable Winch company skidding cone
Hello from Russia, Happy New Year!
Thanks for watching! Happy New Year!
That cone did really make a Hugh difference but that winch is the star of the show I really like that winch it makes a lot of things possible that otherwise would not be possible. Great video Sandy be safe and keep the good video's coming
For sure! I couldn’t do half of this work without that winch
I wouldn't get too aggravated. Your little tractor is doing the work of a much bigger machine like a log skidder.
Very true! Good way of look at it
Thanks for all your work in making these videos. It is appreciated!
Anytime! I appreciate the support Paul
Good day Sandy
You pulled up a couple of nice logs. Your winch sure is paying for itself. One other tool that would be handy to have in the woods is your cant hook. It would help wrestling the logs around
I think that’s a good idea Chris. I may have to see about making a Cant hook holder for the winch
I spent a number of years high lead logging in B.C. in the early 60s. A very useful trick when you are hooking up a log is where the bell on the choker is. By correct positioning you can induce a roll to bypass or lift over ( Usually as close to the bottom ) and even when you run into a log that is laying cross your path. I could write a book on how many times I came close to getting killed by chokers, mainline, haul back and even rocks dislodged by some logs been drug in to the landing. BE Careful Love the little winch.
One way to look at it is a whole house of framing lumber laying on the forest floor waiting to be harvested. Lots of satisfying work
Good way to put it!
Exercise by Mother Nature! Well done Sandy.🌴🍻👍
Exactly! Can't go wrong there
Put your back into it. Carry those logs up the hill. Best hamstring workout goin, lol!
Haha
Love your Cone Gismo that you placed on the cut wood. It surely prevent from getting snagged from branches!!!
Yeah was really handy with all the debris!
Yes you and the DK got a work out there for sure that day! Enjoy watching you work and learning how you go about things, I’m really picking up lots of great info and tips from your channel in general and this will help me most definitely going forward in the future. Hope to do many of the same things that you do on your channel as well myself some day!.. an I may even get an olde golf cart to boot lol. Appreciate tagging along with you, always a pleasure 💯👍. Thanks again Sandy! Cheers!
Andrew from NB :)
TIM from Canada. What if you would have cut the stump around what you were working on. Cut the bad logs that are around your pile.. if you have the winch already out. Pull the bad stuff away from your piles. These are all suggestions that can be thought of as you’re doing this if there is a problem taking the piles of wood out of your area. Look at what you can pull out with your winch or cut it off at the ground and then come back in the spring time relook at it and figure it out
I appreciate the ideas Tim. Hope you're doing well
Every time you use that nose cone it amazes me the beating it can take. Nice skidding.
It sure is a durable unit. I’m also impressed
This is the first time I've seen you pulling logs our I can see that winch being very helpful
Absolutely! That winch has been one of my favourite tools for sure
Always amazed at the power of that winch and you are right....it is really hard work especially in tough terrain like that. Thanks for taking the time to film and have a happy, healthy 2022
Thanks Yves! Happy new year
I learn sooo much from you
Your tractor and skid cone sure beat a team of mules! Save your back wherever you can!
I’m trying to work smarter these days as I get older. My back won’t last forever haha
Your honesty and integrity are great qualities......happy new year
Thanks I appreciate that! Happy New Year
Have only had 3 days of skidding logs in the last month due to illness, watching you drag logs out is keeping me going until I get back out there hopefully soon, thanks Happy 2022 Sandy!
Hope you get back out there soon and feel better
Happy New Year!
Happy New year John
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Looked like a great day in the bush. I am grateful for my cone to save me from past efforts. I need to upgrade my winching setup. Happy New Year Sandy
Always a good day in the bush when equipment doesn’t break of me haha. Happy New Year
New sub here, really enjoying your content. I love firewood vids
Great idea to use that nose cone. I need to get one. Thank you, Ken
Thanks for watching Ken!
by the looks of it the skidding cone is worth the money ,
I find it quite helpful
@@sawingwithsandy I live in NS , was going to build some type of skid plate or cone , then saw what your using . At $165 , wasn’t too sure about it but now I’m think it’s worth it not to have logs caught up in stumps and rocks . Even though I own a woodmizer I get a lot of good ideas from watching you videos.
What are you using for cameras
good work sandy, and yes i gave her the old likearoo.
Right on! Thanks Terry
You need to carry a cant hook around with you. Pretty handy tool.
Hard work for sure. But good work to be doing. You will appreciate having those logs for your projects.
I agree. At the end of the day it’s rewarding work for sure
You have some nice equipment for the size of your operation. I'm envious. Nice channel.
Thanks John!
Sandy I’m amazed you didn’t trash the nose cone. Pretty friggin strong!
It sure is a strong piece!
It still be a bonus to have remote control but it wouldn’t be safe
I think it would be helpful at times for sure as then I could be down by the log to watch as it moves. Aside from that the cost I found to be a bit too much to justify for me. Hope all is well with you Ron! Happy New Year
Your winch is a beast!!!
It sure makes quick work if a normally hard job!
@@sawingwithsandy I bet.
Looked aggravated at times I felt your pain cause I've been there buddy.never heard of a nose cone in my hay day.keep it up man.the lumber w make it all better.
Yeah I was a bit frustrated at times but like you said, all the firewood and lumber will be worth it
Let's hear it for the little yellow cone !!!😊
Woot woot!
I have to admit I’m a bit impressed with that log cone, winched many a tree I have, I think I could see in some instances it would be helpful. As always great work
I like the skidding cone. I find it helps especially when I encounter other logs or trees as it allows the logs I’m winching to ride up and around
dont ya love it when everything is going good, then boom, caught up in a snag, happened to me today a couple of times...lol, nice machines though!!
Sure adds a bit more work to the pull that’s for sure haha
happy christmas and happy new year to all from wales
Thanks Jason! All the best in the new year
Man Sandy that's some nice timber!! That nose cone is a thing of beauty. Keep safe and healthy and Happy New Year to you and yours. Ken in Peterborough.
Thanks Ken! Nose cone sure was handy today. Happy New Year
I have the same cone and it works great for tail dragging logs.
For sure. I’m really liking it for my woods too Jack
The struggle is real! Good chilly morning to ya Sandy. 🥶 -5F here in NE Washington this morning, whatcha have in Ontario? We caught you in the act of making some progress! 👏 Here's to new adventures in this next year! Take care!😁
That os chilly! Only around 0 Celsius here this morning. Happy New Year (almost)
@@sawingwithsandy That's dang near bikini weather!
I’ll tell you what I tell everyone who finds themselves in a less than favourable situation in life,,,,,,,,,,,,,, you should have bought an Argo. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
All kidding aside, I find my Argo a great energy saver when it comes to bush work, you can drive right up to the tree and pull it out so there’s never lengthy walks to get the job done. I’m still envious of your tractor though, so I guess we are even. 😉
Yeah those Argos seem to be great units for sure
@@sawingwithsandy if you’re getting endorsements from companies Argo would be a great asset for your operation.
i realy like watching your videos. keep up the Great work that you do. :)
Thanks Warren, I appreciate the support
The nose cone is a pain to use but it will pay off in the longivity of the winch.
Great video. Looks like Santa 🎅 dropped off a new camera 📷 to you.
I also liked how that nose cone helped to clear that stump out of the ground.
I don't always comment but I always enjoy watching your videos and hitting that LIKE BUTTON 👍.
If you read this comment, make sure you hit that like button for the video.
Thanks Steve! I appreciate you tuning in each week. Hope things are going well with you. Sure was nice to see the power behind the winch pulling that stump out. Made me feel good after spending all that money on the winch haha. Happy New Year!
Raining here so my wood yard work has come to a halt for the moment. There is something bout snow that makes it nicer to work in than mud.
I agree with ya there!
That's gonna be my next implement Sandy, talk about a work saver despite the occasional woes getting the timber where you want it.
For sure. I waited a few years to get one as they are expensive but I’ve all but forgot about their cost due to how useful it is for me
@@sawingwithsandy I've owned a skidding winch for a year now, one of the best implements to have next to a grapple and snowblower.
I don't know how many hp does your tractor have but if it has more than 60hp you should get a different winch. Get something with 4 to 5 tons of pulling force. Then you don't need that cone. Great video.
It's 40hp. My winch has just over 4 tonnes of pulling power at 8800lbs which I find is a good amount as often the tractor will move before the winch loses pulling power
Really good show today! The thing behind the tractor seems to be A fantastic invention! Take care and happy new year! :-)
Thanks Dan! Appreciate you watching
@@sawingwithsandy Is that they really called a winch?
I’m they call it a skidding winch
I may have to come out and teach you how to put a "ROLL" on your chokers so it makes yarding them a little easier
I am familiar with loving the chokers to roll the logs. I’m the one instance I didn’t want to damage the standing tree. Y rubbing logs against it so I pulled one up at a time
Love that new winch ? Long time subscriber. Craig. Pa.
Thanks Craig! Sure is a Handy unit to have around! Thanks for being around the channel for so long. I appreciate the support
i have that cone also it works great .I use the caspan winch to move logs.
Happy New Year Sandy and the family. I was thinking if you take your Peavey down with you to aid in relocation of some of the logs around the trees and stumps as might be helpful.I noticed it while you were kicking them trying to get them to budge a little. I'm strong and I know you are too but deadfall is just that. Proud of how you're tackling all that loss of forest. We're in for bad storms now too here in central Alabama as usual and I'm not anticipating all the cleanup from debris. Ughh. Take Care~
Thanks for the idea Chuck and I wish you well with your upcoming storms!
Just seeing all your struggle... i think if i get a winch for my tractor... im gonna opt for the remote winch lol That looked painful! Love the vids man! helps me make educated decision lol
Yeah the remote would be nice. When I was considering the remote the only reason I decide it wasn’t worth it for me is because I still would end up walking back and forth the same number of times
Maybe consider cutting the busted stumps off at ground level to make an alley to pull the trees easier. I know it will take time but would be easier on your equipment. Just a thought. Be safe out there.
Think that could help for sure
Not to hurt your feelings but what you call a log is only tiny trees in the way of logging. It's called slash /pecker poles in Maine where logging employs many people. When your children are old the forest your in will have logs.
Good enough for me. Be sure to check out my other videos to find out why I’m harvesting these sized logs. Thanks for watching
pines are pains!
Sure can make for a tonne of work !
there some nice size logs your retrieving , lots of fire wood as well
For sure. Good day all around
That nose cone is a game changer for sure. Never forget that again lol 😂😂
Never ending work ahead of you there brother. Your setup sure will make life alot easier though.
Have you ever looked into any front mount brush cutters for your tractor?
Would be nice to grind up all the tree tops and open things up a little easier there.
Keep up all the great work there Sandy. Be safe...
Thanks for watching Steve! I looking into a PTO driven brush mulcher before but haven't made up my mind on that. A front-mounted unit sure would be slick. I'll have to look around at what's available.
I'm doing the same thing wright now. Exept my trees are falling into the river. So there has to be two guys. One with the chainsaw and the other starts winching while the tree is falling.
That sure sounds like a tricky operation but you’ve got it figured out it sounds. Another great use for the winch
Where did you get your skidding cone? I haven't seen any around here. I think you mentioned it in a previous video with your chainsaw winch setup. Thanks for the great info and ideas.
From the Portable Winch Company
Logs look larger than the ones you've been milling recently, be neat to see when you mill them and how you do it, most of the trees I've done thus far are 18 or so diameter.
I agree. I do enjoy the larger logs more than the small ones for sure
I think I like to get a skidding cone. It sure cuts down on the amount of brush pulled along. 👍 that’s great. Could you tell me where you got the cone please? Thanks
That works pretty good 👍 just one thing I would have with me is a cantook I'm not sure if that's spelled right the thing you have to flip the logs on your saw mill that works great for a log that is hung up you can move it over.
I still don't know how I feel about the nosecone, seems to work with just one log ok. Two or more just drags along for the ride. A winch can haul 3or4 of those small trees you are pulling with no problem, I know you pulling up hill with lots of debris, makes a difference.
Yeah I know what ya mean. I tried hauling three logs on the first pull and it went fine until the logs got jammed up under debris. Nose cone comes in handy in that case but other times not needed
Looks like that cone really helped out. But you still have so much wood on the ground that can’t be used, can you have controlled brush fires to help get rid of it?
I think in my area that may be frowned on as there's so much timber around it could get out of control.
Spend a little more time on your twitch trail,, fill it with brush,, cut those stumps down,, back up to your wood,, run the idle 2200-rpm's or more,, parking break on,, make the trail outta tops & brush!! Pulling from the tops will break off the limbs.. If you get a mud hole,, twitch some trees limb & cut into holes.. Drive in & make a turn-a-round every 50 --100 feet!! Aloha stay safe..
I think that would be a good idea but I’ll have to be picky on where I could accomplish this as some of the trails are a bit too steep for my tractor
@@sawingwithsandy The weight of the winch & logs will give you traction,, 3rd 4th of 5 gear,, low range sucks in snow,, fill the tires helps a bunch!! Run the winch from inside the cab,, so you can break with one foot & foot feed with the other,, that winch will pull faster then you can run but not while the tractor is 800 rpm!!! You can always turn around & winch yourself up the hill if it doesn't work,, brush is traction,, like sand on the highway..
Hi Sandy. Since you made 25 trips up and down the hill, does that mean you pulled 25 logs out? At any rate, it is looking better, and you will get the last log that you want to pull out. Can your winch be fitted to use a remote control?
Have good days!
I looked into remotes for mine and they are expensive
There is the option to buy this sand winch with a remote but it’s a lot more. I thought about the remote but I’d end up making the same number of trips back and forth as I’d still need to pull the winch cable back out to rig up the next log.
@@sawingwithsandy If you had a remote you could ride those logs out. 🤣
Sorry, some of us would find that entertaining lol
Haha now I’m interested!
@@sawingwithsandy Welcome to "Logsurfing with Sandy". LOL
Nose cone is a great tool to have. If the cable snaps it will stop or atleast slow the whip action that comes back at the person in front of the winch . Have you thought of using the strong cordage that dosent have that snap back tendencies . Feel real bad for your tree lose but I feel your pain living in hurricane zone . I’m sure you’ll dig in and make the most of them though. Wish I had time to come help you drag them out of the bush.Hope to see vids of lose turned to gain from them. Stay safe and keep up the good work
Thanks Timmy! I looked a little into the synthetic winch cable but was afraid it may have some abrasion issues with the rough terrain. Hope all is well
@@sawingwithsandy I have doubts about it too. But the Steel cable dosent care who it snaps back at. It’s kinda dang if you do or dang if you don’t , but the cone on either is a good safety measure , I’ve seen winch lines pulling logs snap and men on the side of the mountain say a prayer for not getting hurt
@@sawingwithsandy I have reluctance to the soft cordage too , stay safe my friend and I keep looking forward to your post .
@@sawingwithsandy all is well except for the heat here(🤣🤣🤣), just thought about the cordage winch and I know y’all have steel snapping cold up there . Stay safe my friend, and put the safety glasses on
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Hello sandy...another great video...where did you purchase your log come...would like to pick one up
Thanks for watching Yves! I bought the nose cone from Portable Winch Company. They may be sold at other forestry type stores as well. Happy New Year!
Where did you buy your logging chains with the red hooks??? Can't find them in stores in Canada (Québec)
Those came with my wallenstein winch
Feeling very sorry about the wind blown trees but also getting sorry hearing about it . Sorry.
I think after the regrowth of the trees happens I’ll start feeling better
Do they make a wireless remote for the winch ? It would surely be easier to operate the winch from besides the log.
They do make the same winch with a remote. It’s more money but I figured since I’d have to make the same number of trips back and forth to the logs it wasn’t worth it to me
Question, would using choker chains be less stress on your cable? I noticed the end of your cable is getting pretty bent up.
I’m not too sure. The winch Cable comes setup to have the first log hooked up with the cable but in the future of the cable gets damaged I could always go a different route
Hi Sandy,nice video. I'm in Québec,i hone a proprety(180 acres).I would like To cut my wood and build a house on it (specialy with the price of the lumber today).Whats the size of your tractor and your winch ?Do you like it?Would You take a bigger one? Thank you very much and wish a happy new year.
Hi Gary! Tractor has been great. Kioti 40hp . I did a three year review video a few months back and I’m still happy each day I use it. Powerful and a good size
The winch is a wallenstein fx85. I think if I Had the same frame size tractor but a few more horsepower I could probably use it at times but for 95% of the work around here the 40hp is plenty
Hey Sandy what make and model tractor and where did you get the nose cone from
Thank you Dan from Alaska
Hi Dan. It’s a kioti DK40se cab. Portable winch company is the brand of the nose cone
and how much more was it for the remote winch? Looks like its about worth it today haha
I can’t remember exactly but I believe it was about 2000 Canadian extra
I don't think you had your sludge before you started or you wouldn't have go
For got the cone
Haha probably right
As we say in Mississippi…oops
Haha
Du burde prøve med en kast blokk festet til et tre på de vanskligst steden så at du får løftet stokkendene opp fra bakken.
Tror den blokken ville fungere bra. Jeg har en så jeg må bare huske denne til neste gang. Takk for at du så på og delte ideen!
Should I release the saw blade tension on my bandsaw mill when not in use? Thanks
I’d also follow whatever the owners manual says but I don’t release the tension
@@sawingwithsandy thanks!!
No need for a gym membership when you're hauling logs up a steep hill. 🤣Soon the saw mill log deck will be overflowing.
Haha isn’t that the truth!
Where did you get that nose cone?
Portable winch company
where do you get those skidding cones?
I got mine from the Portable Wonch company
Man this is far away from the proper way to skid a log...clear the logs from branches this way they will slide smoothly on the ground up the hill, second clear the path from debree and other logs which are standing on the way atherwise you will ruin your winch, cable and skidding cone. If the wimch stops pulling do not force it...obviously there is an obsticle, try clearing ot, try also using snatch block for redirecting the logs
too bad you didnt limb the trees before you skid them , pull a lot easier and dont catch on other junk
look in a 3-in-1 Forestry MultiTool combines just a
I’ll have to check them out
Sand , why dont you clear a path by removing all that rubbish first.
The steepness of the hill won’t allow me to get a tractor down there and so I’m hesitant to clear a path when I’d have to do it by hand