I’ll still go with the Milwaukee even if it’s not THE best only because I’m already invested in the battery system. But for the bigger drills I might switch brands for 18v and 20v if there’s something better
Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" th-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
Great test! Noticed when you are using the hole saw, you are covering the air vent for the motors with your supporting hand. no wonder they are overheating.. try holding your hand flat on the back instead, using the palm of you hand. That should help air flow
The bosch is the king for versatility and ease of use . it has plenty of power for driving wood screws up to a #5 . anything bigger becomes a problem . for tricky angles and small diameter applications it's my favorite . if i want to drill big holes or drive big screws i break out my 18 volt drill and impact wrenches .
I know this is an old video and you tested the gen 1 skil drill. But i just bought the gen 2 brushless skil 12v drill. It has to be in speed 1 to drive a 4" decking screw. Not a structural screw, just a hillman 10x4 screw. And even in speed 1 it stopped and blinked once. The skil 12v impacter was not deficient in any way. It sunk those 10x4" screws without issue. Allmost makes me wonder if the drill kit is not quite right mechanicly speaking. It did let out one small poof of smoke the first time i tested it but has never done it since. I am thinking about how i want to handle this. Return it or keep it, register it and test chervons warranty if it quits. The store has a hands on display....maybe i should run the test on their display model?
When I started making desks and shelves, I went with SKIL because they did the job. Once I make a career out of this lucrative hobby, obviously I'll go with Makita or Dewalt. My dad used to be a carpenter with Makita tools.
Dewalt isn't much more expensive when it goes on sale which is pretty often. I just got the extreme 12v brushless impact driver which only cost me 99 bucks. Makita usually marks up a bit higher but the quality is also unbeatable.
We use the Bosch drills to drive M3 and M5 bolts for 3D printer assembly. For tasks where compactness is your biggest factor, I couldn’t recommend them enough. We’re nowhere near hitting the limits of the tool doing simple assembly, so the lower torque isn’t a factor for us.
That's a good point. I have the M12, but it's a little unfair to criticize the Bosch when they were trying to create the absolute smallest drill possible. I'd imagine for someone who is doing more delicate tasks all day the power is entirely irrelevant.
I enjoyed your review so much I subscribed, great video comparison. In the 12v world I invested in the Dewalt 12v Xtreme line and never had buyers remorse!!! I use the Dewalt 12 volts 80% of the time, if I need more power I pull out my Makita’s and Milwaukee’s all the brushless models. I’m looking forward to your next video, thanks.
Watched this after I had already bought a bunch of Dewalt 12V tools. My brother has the Milwaukee ones. He likes to borrow my tools when he needs to get something done…
I have 3 Bosch drills and impact drivers and they have been great. One is brushed and the others are brushless. The brushed one makes very strange noises when you are running at slow speeds, but it doesn't seem to matter, it still works fine.
Dude that was an awesome video. I came to see how the Bosch and Milwaukee compare, because they are available down here in Argentina, but really loved the whole video review. Amazing job.
You know which ones I would buy: The Makita or the Bosch. Reason being the fact that you can get spare parts for them at reasonable pricing and they last. Bosch is the undedog of powertools but they are really good at making tools that last and have something unique about them that fills a market niche. I have a brushed 12v Bosch drill from 2017 myself thats used, abused and put away wet 😅 Still works great. But the Motor is about cooked I got it to smoke a bit a few times it will die completely soon. Not a problem since I switched to Makita 18V but I keep the Bosch because its so tiny in size. New motor from Bosch is 16€ + shipping. Feels good not having to throw a once 100€ drill out because of a bad motor.
Do you have any idea when milwaukee will be updating their m12 drill? Seems like they are lagging far behind the competition in regards to size/performance
Cheers bud’ you’re test gleaming and it was a bonus How well dewalt done. Purchased Dewalt DCD 706 12V Hammer version. Being useful tonight’ with it All the best 🏴🇺🇸
Just got a skil set on clearance drill driver impact charger and 2 batteries 100$ thank goodness changed my tires and fix stuff at work making money and saving money 🤑
Skil won in terms of performance, but I think Bosch won the "Light-duty" category, which is the only reason to get a 12V drill. But I'mma get Skil because I don't care about the "Light-duty" category.
Okay did anyone, ANYONE else see this man blink or even move his eyes? Side note: thank you for including skil!!! I've been using skil for a year or two now and I absolutely love their new power tools. The price is always awesome compared to everyone else (varies by tool sometimes), and Ive never had an issue with them on any site I've been on. Tbh, quite overpowered for home owner projects. (20v line).
It’s interesting that this Bosch model you tested is listed at 300 lbs ft torque, and you were only able to measure 245. Given the 12v PS41 is such a capable drill, why such poor performance in a similar platform. #boschtools #drills #12v
Ha ha .I do bought my second 's tools.first are 171 bare ! Second 's tools are 333 .Makita , feels good ,looks great , with free charger , battery's.and cases...offer discount prices....
🚩⭐You didn't test the settings clutch. I have the Milwaukee and its too powerful in the lowest gear and also very slow at low gears which is annoying when you have to drill 20 screws in a UPVc door without going all the way through. I have an Ozito/Einhell drill which does great, its quick in low settings stopping at a certain tension.
Nice video...You should check out and make review of worx wu130, i got mine from aliexpress but it seems you cannot buy them anywhere else, those orange/black worx tools are available but these green/black coloured ones are not for sale in europe or north america. its easily the best and most handy drill driver I have used. they also have wu132 impact driver which is also very compact. I just ordered it, but havent got it yet, both have brushless motors and are 12v. i cannot find any english reviews about these products. I use wu130 every day as an electrician, its suprisingly powerful, i think wu130 gets 1800rpm and wu132 3300rpm.......seems like no one else has these tools in western world except me :)
My understanding is that the larger batter pack is like a larger gas tank in your car. It will help you go further but won't help you go any faster. Does Milwaukee actually get more power from the larger battery pack? Does it have a higher voltage?
@@GearGuide The 6 cell battery packs will have the same nominal voltage, but less voltage drop at high load so will allow the connected tool to make more power.
@@GearGuide Yep, I use the milwaukee m12 drill every day and the difference is just HUGE. I don't ever use the smaller batteries because it makes the drill quit so easily.
I don't know why everyone loves skils usb features. It's 5v 1amp or 5w charger. It's no better than an iphone charger from 2007. Where most phones these days charge at 15watts or higher. Most of today's devices use more power than that USB feature can provide.
why use 12v? because it has the benefits of light weight for lighter job. bosch is the winner for its purpose. smallest lightest and decent power. If need power for heavy job, simply go for 18v. a bit of more power in 12v tool is just nothing compare to 18v.
Dude your own test showed Skil beating Makita. Plus all the extras you get with the jump charger and price. I would call the Skil the winner yes Dewalt out performed in hole test but the Skil’s extra features should have took it. The Skil was right behind it. I know you said size and weight but your talking 12v it is light compared to regular 18 and 20 volt drills. It comes down to opinions in the end and I just disagree with yours nut appreciate you showing your test results. Thanks for the vid I am definitely going to get the Skil.
Just a heads up, makita sub compact 18V drill drivers are lighter than the milwaukee m12 and obviously the skil. Oh and cheaper (at least they are here in Canada). Might be an option for you?
Bosch is the only brand that is actually noticeably smaller than their other drills. The other drills are basically the same size as their 18/24v drills like why even use their 12v drills
@WomenHateShortMen 🧐 Okay, howabout put a 6 cell battery on all of those tools. What I mean is, they are seriously hampered by those little 3 cell batteries.
@@riba2233 That is true. But when doing a comparison, showcasing each tool as it is intended by the manufacturer would make sense. All the specs for the M12 drill are recorded with the XC batteries. Just because other manufacturers are lazy and produce half ass batteries, why should the milwaukee have to handicap its capability? Milwaukee is about to release High output M12 batteries which will increase the power by 25%. I am not a fan of milwaukee or their annoying hype bullshit marketing, but I do run M12 Fuel because nobody else has put close to as much effort into a 12v tool range.
@@procrastinator1842 makita also has battery with double the cells, 12v 4.0ah. and cxt tools are also more powerful with it. So does bosch etc. Imho for 12v tools compactness and low mass is everything, but sure, why not test both options for each brand.
@@riba2233 Yes you are correct, compactness is the point of 12v tools. If the little 3 cell batteries could cope with the M12 drill, circ saw, sds drill and cut off tool, I'd use them for everything. But in the real world you find your tools just need those bigger batteries to do the job, or else they just cut out continuously, unfortunately. I am in the process of building my own packs for M12. I am building a 2.0Ah/40A continuous ultra high demand compact pack for my 1/4 hex impact so I don't have to use the 6 cell battery when need to drive a bigger screw. I am also building a 9 cell 8.0Ah/105A continuous pack for rough in days at work where my XC packs often reach their thermal limit. The rest of the time I will just use the standard XC pack.
Hello, Gear Guide, Nice to meet you. I am the sales representative of Amazon's new tool brand TECCPO. The core of our products is quality and innovation. Currently we have some drill, impact driver, impact wrench and other products. We would like to invite you Take a video of the product unpacking test for us, Looking forward to your reply, thank you!
I’ll still go with the Milwaukee even if it’s not THE best only because I’m already invested in the battery system. But for the bigger drills I might switch brands for 18v and 20v if there’s something better
Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" th-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.
Great test! Noticed when you are using the hole saw, you are covering the air vent for the motors with your supporting hand. no wonder they are overheating.. try holding your hand flat on the back instead, using the palm of you hand. That should help air flow
Fantastic assembly of a video.
Lots of info yet easy to digest.
Seeing all these tools next to eachother in different positions was also excellent!
The bosch is the king for versatility and ease of use . it has plenty of power for driving wood screws up to a #5 . anything bigger becomes a problem . for tricky angles and small diameter applications it's my favorite . if i want to drill big holes or drive big screws i break out my 18 volt drill and impact wrenches .
I wish they were stronger. Bosch loses like every head to head battle against other brands. TH-cam channels have exposed them 😢
Iv been using the botch for years never let me down
Just a quick one man. Would you recommend a 12V Metabo for DIY? 🤔
I know this is an old video and you tested the gen 1 skil drill. But i just bought the gen 2 brushless skil 12v drill. It has to be in speed 1 to drive a 4" decking screw. Not a structural screw, just a hillman 10x4 screw. And even in speed 1 it stopped and blinked once. The skil 12v impacter was not deficient in any way. It sunk those 10x4" screws without issue. Allmost makes me wonder if the drill kit is not quite right mechanicly speaking. It did let out one small poof of smoke the first time i tested it but has never done it since. I am thinking about how i want to handle this. Return it or keep it, register it and test chervons warranty if it quits. The store has a hands on display....maybe i should run the test on their display model?
When I started making desks and shelves, I went with SKIL because they did the job. Once I make a career out of this lucrative hobby, obviously I'll go with Makita or Dewalt. My dad used to be a carpenter with Makita tools.
Yeah its a good value and no point getting the most expensive tool unless you are going to be using it enough to make it worth it.
You can get Skil combo with two batteries for $120
Skill will do the job, Makita will help you enjoy the job.
Dewalt isn't much more expensive when it goes on sale which is pretty often. I just got the extreme 12v brushless impact driver which only cost me 99 bucks. Makita usually marks up a bit higher but the quality is also unbeatable.
We use the Bosch drills to drive M3 and M5 bolts for 3D printer assembly. For tasks where compactness is your biggest factor, I couldn’t recommend them enough. We’re nowhere near hitting the limits of the tool doing simple assembly, so the lower torque isn’t a factor for us.
That's a good point. I have the M12, but it's a little unfair to criticize the Bosch when they were trying to create the absolute smallest drill possible. I'd imagine for someone who is doing more delicate tasks all day the power is entirely irrelevant.
I enjoyed your review so much I subscribed, great video comparison. In the 12v world I invested in the Dewalt 12v Xtreme line and never had buyers remorse!!! I use the Dewalt 12 volts 80% of the time, if I need more power I pull out my Makita’s and Milwaukee’s all the brushless models. I’m looking forward to your next video, thanks.
Brushless hammer drills do it all up to half inch
Watched this after I had already bought a bunch of Dewalt 12V tools. My brother has the Milwaukee ones. He likes to borrow my tools when he needs to get something done…
I got the makita and I’m really pleased with it I think it’s battery charges super fast
I have the Bosch and just used it to drill stucco. Love it! 💯 👍🏽
Good job !!!
Thanks.
How thick is the board used in the test?
Thanks!! It’s 2” so actual thickness is about 1.5”
@@GearGuide Thanks!
I am going Bosch for drills for years now
Not a single one broke down! Even after 25 years!
I have 3 Bosch drills and impact drivers and they have been great. One is brushed and the others are brushless. The brushed one makes very strange noises when you are running at slow speeds, but it doesn't seem to matter, it still works fine.
Bosch is good but they are weak
Im confused.. Makita rates this drill at 280 ft lbs torque, maximum. So I was going to avoid it.. but you got a much higher reading ???.
I use my 12v combo 90% of the time. There's just about nothing the average home owner can't do with a 12v.
Thanks for this! I was likely going to get the bosch before I watched this. Might go with a DeWalt or Makita now.
Can you do a comparison of the 12 volt screwdrivers and also impact drivers
Dude that was an awesome video. I came to see how the Bosch and Milwaukee compare, because they are available down here in Argentina, but really loved the whole video review. Amazing job.
You know which ones I would buy: The Makita or the Bosch.
Reason being the fact that you can get spare parts for them at reasonable pricing and they last.
Bosch is the undedog of powertools but they are really good at making tools that last and have something unique about them that fills a market niche.
I have a brushed 12v Bosch drill from 2017 myself thats used, abused and put away wet 😅 Still works great.
But the Motor is about cooked I got it to smoke a bit a few times it will die completely soon. Not a problem since I switched to Makita 18V but I keep the Bosch because its so tiny in size.
New motor from Bosch is 16€ + shipping. Feels good not having to throw a once 100€ drill out because of a bad motor.
I just bought 3 of the DeWALT 12v xtereme brushless you reviewed there for $67 at lowes
How did you get that deal?
i have the brushed previous models of the bosch drills. have more powerful drills but use the boschs far more just from a comfort level.
Do you have any idea when milwaukee will be updating their m12 drill? Seems like they are lagging far behind the competition in regards to size/performance
Probably Milwaukee will release new versions of their drills at the pipeline show later this year.
Cheers bud’ you’re test gleaming and it was a bonus
How well dewalt done.
Purchased Dewalt DCD 706
12V Hammer version.
Being useful tonight’ with it
All the best 🏴🇺🇸
Wow, amazing work 👏 also worth noting, imo, is that the Bosch doesn't have a ratcheting chuck
I went with the Bosch for the sole reason I also carry a Dremel in my bag and that means I have three batteries
Just got a skil set on clearance drill driver impact charger and 2 batteries 100$ thank goodness changed my tires and fix stuff at work making money and saving money 🤑
great test, i think I'll go for the Makita
Good choice!
I've had the Dewalt 12v and the Milwaukee 12v and decided I prefer the bigger 18/20v drills.
Sounds like SKIL won to me!
Skil won in terms of performance, but I think Bosch won the "Light-duty" category, which is the only reason to get a 12V drill. But I'mma get Skil because I don't care about the "Light-duty" category.
At that size might as well buy an 18v tool. It’s 18v sized
Okay did anyone, ANYONE else see this man blink or even move his eyes?
Side note: thank you for including skil!!! I've been using skil for a year or two now and I absolutely love their new power tools. The price is always awesome compared to everyone else (varies by tool sometimes), and Ive never had an issue with them on any site I've been on.
Tbh, quite overpowered for home owner projects. (20v line).
I bet he sleeps with one eye open!
Just ordered a Milwaukee 12v impact and driver with batteries and charger along with 45 pc bit kit for 140$ I feel like it was a great deal
The skil is a little big for a 12v but I love mine! It’s a beast and outperforms my Makita subcompact 18v drill.
great testing, i am going to go with makita. so much torque for a 12v
Btw for anyone wondering, makita has a fast 12v charger that charges a 2ah pack in less than 30 mins ;)
Wow, such detailed review, even with teardown! Please don't stop with videos
Wait, there are not links to twardowns in description like it was mentoined in video :(
Skil stepped up, no matter how you cut it everything else is overpriced.
I have the DeWalt 12v Hammer Drill....love the thing.
wasn't the Bosch the best 12v drill driver according to protools review.
Great comprehensive test 👍
Come baaack dude, great vids
Are all of these small 12v tools e-clutch?
No
Wow you're definitely my favourite reviewer
The dewalt is a tank, I have drilled a 5/8 auger bit through a light pole with it.
Thanks much! I am a 67 year old newbie to drills. Hubby has a 20v but it is way too heavy for me. This helps me make an informed decision.
Bosch GSB 12V-35 (with hummer drill also,) is the best of all of this toys.
Nah, makita is much better
What’s better makita df332dwye or makita hp332dwye?
They are the same but Makita's "HP..." drills have hammer mod for concrete and bricks.
Df
Doesnt help when youre using the small batteries, there is a noticeable difference between and you take away from the potential not using bigger
I love the fact that the dewalt uses the same charger for 20v and 12v
Excelente investigación y análisis bien detallado que debe haber tomando tiempo el mejor que he visto 👍.
Please do impact drivers under $160 next if possible! Thank you #impact #impactdriver #driver #powertools
It’s interesting that this Bosch model you tested is listed at 300 lbs ft torque, and you were only able to measure 245. Given the 12v PS41 is such a capable drill, why such poor performance in a similar platform. #boschtools #drills #12v
For me Bosch is the best because it is the most compact and lightest and is plenty of a tool around the house.
Ha ha .I do bought my second 's tools.first are 171 bare ! Second 's tools are 333 .Makita , feels good ,looks great , with free charger , battery's.and cases...offer discount prices....
🚩⭐You didn't test the settings clutch. I have the Milwaukee and its too powerful in the lowest gear and also very slow at low gears which is annoying when you have to drill 20 screws in a UPVc door without going all the way through. I have an Ozito/Einhell drill which does great, its quick in low settings stopping at a certain tension.
Nice video...You should check out and make review of worx wu130, i got mine from aliexpress but it seems you cannot buy them anywhere else, those orange/black worx tools are available but these green/black coloured ones are not for sale in europe or north america. its easily the best and most handy drill driver I have used. they also have wu132 impact driver which is also very compact. I just ordered it, but havent got it yet, both have brushless motors and are 12v. i cannot find any english reviews about these products. I use wu130 every day as an electrician, its suprisingly powerful, i think wu130 gets 1800rpm and wu132 3300rpm.......seems like no one else has these tools in western world except me :)
Why r ur scores different than the rest of youtubeLand?
Was the m12 in hammer drill mode?
No
I think next time you should try a test with 4ah batteries as drills such as the Milwaukee become more powerful when paired with a larger battery
True
My understanding is that the larger batter pack is like a larger gas tank in your car. It will help you go further but won't help you go any faster. Does Milwaukee actually get more power from the larger battery pack? Does it have a higher voltage?
@@GearGuide yes
@@GearGuide The 6 cell battery packs will have the same nominal voltage, but less voltage drop at high load so will allow the connected tool to make more power.
@@GearGuide Yep, I use the milwaukee m12 drill every day and the difference is just HUGE. I don't ever use the smaller batteries because it makes the drill quit so easily.
Great video, keep them coming! Subscribed.
Great informative review
I don't know why everyone loves skils usb features. It's 5v 1amp or 5w charger. It's no better than an iphone charger from 2007. Where most phones these days charge at 15watts or higher. Most of today's devices use more power than that USB feature can provide.
shaking my head at Bosch lol
Hola podrías traer metabo 12 v Gracias
why use 12v? because it has the benefits of light weight for lighter job. bosch is the winner for its purpose. smallest lightest and decent power. If need power for heavy job, simply go for 18v. a bit of more power in 12v tool is just nothing compare to 18v.
Does the bosch have a metal chuck? I hate those flimsy plastic looking chucks
Test Hercules vs dewalt hammer
As a Makita user this makes me happy cause all the shit the fuel guys talk
I used Bosch for some time and it's not better than makita. I use mine every day .
I am from Iraq following you very old how to buy good quality from you. In Iraq there is nothing but traditional Chinese, and I need it for work
Can you purchase items on ebay?
Milwaukee the beast in 12v platform
3,4 and 6ah my next cordless tools
Dude your own test showed Skil beating Makita. Plus all the extras you get with the jump charger and price. I would call the Skil the winner yes Dewalt out performed in hole test but the Skil’s extra features should have took it. The Skil was right behind it. I know you said size and weight but your talking 12v it is light compared to regular 18 and 20 volt drills. It comes down to opinions in the end and I just disagree with yours nut appreciate you showing your test results. Thanks for the vid I am definitely going to get the Skil.
Just a heads up, makita sub compact 18V drill drivers are lighter than the milwaukee m12 and obviously the skil. Oh and cheaper (at least they are here in Canada). Might be an option for you?
Where's the Festool driver lol ,never see those tested with "regular people tools"
Bosch is the only brand that is actually noticeably smaller than their other drills. The other drills are basically the same size as their 18/24v drills like why even use their 12v drills
Im buying skil and so cheap
What's that whining noise? Oh it's just Milwaukee fangirls crying
Based on what i have seen here, overall best is DeWatt and Skil. Not Makita.
cant beat the milwaukee, best platform by far
Makita charger DC10SA faster
I hope you didn’t have the Milwaukee on 17 the whole test lol
If you put the 4.0/6.0 battery in the milwaukee it would change the outcome completely.
@WomenHateShortMen 🧐 Okay, howabout put a 6 cell battery on all of those tools. What I mean is, they are seriously hampered by those little 3 cell batteries.
@@procrastinator1842 no, that is the point of 12v tools, you want them to be as light as possible
@@riba2233 That is true. But when doing a comparison, showcasing each tool as it is intended by the manufacturer would make sense. All the specs for the M12 drill are recorded with the XC batteries. Just because other manufacturers are lazy and produce half ass batteries, why should the milwaukee have to handicap its capability?
Milwaukee is about to release High output M12 batteries which will increase the power by 25%. I am not a fan of milwaukee or their annoying hype bullshit marketing, but I do run M12 Fuel because nobody else has put close to as much effort into a 12v tool range.
@@procrastinator1842 makita also has battery with double the cells, 12v 4.0ah. and cxt tools are also more powerful with it. So does bosch etc.
Imho for 12v tools compactness and low mass is everything, but sure, why not test both options for each brand.
@@riba2233 Yes you are correct, compactness is the point of 12v tools. If the little 3 cell batteries could cope with the M12 drill, circ saw, sds drill and cut off tool, I'd use them for everything. But in the real world you find your tools just need those bigger batteries to do the job, or else they just cut out continuously, unfortunately.
I am in the process of building my own packs for M12. I am building a 2.0Ah/40A continuous ultra high demand compact pack for my 1/4 hex impact so I don't have to use the 6 cell battery when need to drive a bigger screw. I am also building a 9 cell 8.0Ah/105A continuous pack for rough in days at work where my XC packs often reach their thermal limit.
The rest of the time I will just use the standard XC pack.
Hello, Gear Guide, Nice to meet you. I am the sales representative of Amazon's new tool brand TECCPO. The core of our products is quality and innovation. Currently we have some drill, impact driver, impact wrench and other products. We would like to invite you Take a video of the product unpacking test for us,
Looking forward to your reply, thank you!
Milwaukee and Bosch are the worst feeling in hand
Definitely.
Throw a 5.0 batterie on the milwaukee
You kept mixing up a wacky with makita you should reedit
These drills are obsolete
How so?
@5:53 BOSCH & MILWAUKEE
and NOT Bosch & Makita !
You’re welcome :)