@Leo you helped me pick my fav pedal so i made sure all my musician friends watch ur comparison videos first before they buy smthg...thanks so much Leo ,love your channel
10:42 plexi+cab 10:58 plexi+custom ir 11:14 ge200 stock ir 11:30 ge200 custom ir 11:46 ampero stock ir 12:02 ampero custom ir 12:18 mg30 stock ir 12:33 mg30 custom ir final: stock ir : mg30>ge200>ampero custom ir: ampero>mg30=ge200 Just for me
Great video, it really helps, specially on the specifications charts, I want to choose between mooer ge 250 vs Nux mg 30, I know that those are in different levels but I want to know if the ge 250 worths the double of price of the mg 30 I usually play live in small bars
The hotone with Ir is really identical to the original amp. Mg30 is what I wish to hear from a modeller to sounds like and what I imagine the original amp sounds will be, It so close to a real amp but not sounds like the original amp. With the 32bit/48khz and 11 blocks, I think it really can fight with the pod go. I wish it will have a bluetooth or some special funtion in next premium model. Ge200 is lack of dynamic and clearity, it sounds like looking for youtube in 240p.
Hi Leo!!! Great video!! I have just discover your channel! One question!! Do you think is a good option for the price to have one of this connected to my little amp at home (supro delta king 8)? My idea is to use most of the time only the effects to complement the natural sound of the amp. In that case, which one of the 3 has better effects/sound?? I dont mind to have less effects, I prefer the simplicity and the better sound. Obviously, I would use it also with headphones for prscticing using all the features (amps and cabs simulators). In thinking in mg-30 but appreciate your recommendation. Thank you in advance!!!! Regards from Spain!!!
Hi Carlos, thank you so much, I'm happy that you like the video! If you want to use it one of these unit with your amp, I think that you need the possibility to connect your amp with the pedalboard with the 4 cable method, and that only unit which allows this possibility is the MG 30. Thank you!
I just received the Ampero One . I bought it used in excellent condition. I’m waiting on 2 head rush frfr 108s. Kinda teasing myself until they arrive from Sweetwater. Looking forward to getting it on with the Ampero …
Glad I waited for the 2x head rush amps for the Ampero one . Killer killer killer . Now if I can just get some help figuring out how to get the Ampero One Editor to work with my Mac / with Big Sur . Ampere support sent me a very vague email saying it would work , recommended trying a different cable , different USB port , nothing helped . Keeps saying can’t be use in the downloaded format . I am not a computer guy . I’m 59 and old freekin school. Any one out there who knows what I’m not doing right I’m damn frustrated . I emailed Ampero again for assistance but they have not responded . Keep Rockin America
@@LeoGibsonGtr Fractal designer has said of your demos that the load you use is responsible for hi end ressonance that is not present in the real amps and as a result both your IRs and your real amp vs (modeller + its own cab sim) sound brighter than it should. To be honest, neither the suhr reactive load or any other load does something about the negative feedback from the speaker to the power amp, it's an incomplete procedure. Unless you are comparing to amps without negative feedback like mesa rectifier modern mode etc, or vox ac15, ac30. However real amps blown out volume wise (full tilt!) also loose their negative feedback and become scratchier, boomier. He is kind of right...
Hi Leo! I’m leaning towards the MG-30. Is it possible to place in front of a combo amp and use it as a stomp, for example only for the modulation, reverb and delay stages?
Dear Leo as always!! Great video!! 😎🤘 Nux included a 3-band input EQ and an 3-band output EQ each with level trim. These can be find in Pre-Eq en Output settings in the global settings. This make it easier to fit your guitar with the unit and make a proper gainstage setting (I want my master volume knobs between 50/75% with lots of headroom to play with. Be aware that the presets the unit comes with has been made with different guitars and input/output stages. So please don't judge gear by listen to presets. Presets are just building blocks to give you insight reverse engineering a sound or setting. Just pick your gear that works for you and make some music! 😎🤘
@@RobGross12Hahaha Nice one, No I had no intentions insulting Leo or any artist (I've made a back-up of all the factory presets to a file with the quicktone editor 😌☝🏻) Not gonna lie: Leo presets sounding great as also of some others (too bad Leo's presets comes later in the list, the unit starts with some over processed ones) 😎🤘 disclaimer: No artists were harmed during the writing of both comments
Hey man just noticed your comment, I've been looking for a way to get better headroom out of my MG30. How low do you set the levels on your patches'? I'm referring to the level knob that usually sits beside the bias knob in the preamp section. Thanks man.
Man i feel the MG-30 Lacks Lows and Low mids. I own one, i had Boss Gt-1 before. I Loved the GT-1 for its fullness. With rectifier of MG-30 there is no Low end at all, i dont know why they included a Bass Knob then.... I have no idea how youtubers can promote this pedal. i see the low end lack in every video on youtube. I regret buying MG-30 ,Is there anything I have to try out? Or is there anything special not to sell my MG-30?..... Expecting a reply, Thanks.
Great video! Leo is always neat and accurate. Yes, of course the GE 200 isn't the winner, but the other challengers are years newer! In terms of digital effects at least one year more or even less is just a long time... I own a GE 200, and I can honestly complaint the lack of firmware update (almost 4 years the last one! Shame on you, mooer!), but the sound is very good to my ears. How rightly Leo says, the sound isn't the only important feature of an electronic device, I know - I've already tried the tube amp with analogic pedalboard of a friend of mine (other world!) - but I don't play like Leo, so a cheap pedal is right for me (also full of advantages: sound card, preamp, lightweight, etc). However I didn't hear (at least, listening with headphones on YT) this huge sound improvement between GE 200 and the newest ones. Yes one or two additional ports, a little bit more quality accuracy... to me nothing more than marketing strategies. Like cellphones... one more camera, little bit more space, so there, a new model! I didn't hear a sound "revolution". When i sold my me-80 to buy the GE 200 the difference to my ears was sharply! And this is not the case. Here there are devices with similar features (one gaining in some and losing in the others) where everyone can say "this is the best"or where the difference is so slight that can fall in personal tastes... I've also tried the ampero in a music shop and I've found the feeling with expression pedal unpleasantly uncomfortable. I will wait more time before selling my little pedal, until arrive a real revolution in cheap multi effects world.
It is funny that you feel a "bit biased" to the unit that was received as a gift. When you received the GE200LT you"could not decide" between it and the MG30 😂😂😂
Thanks for your work Leo. I’d love to see the mg30 vs joyo gembox 3. If the modelling was as good on the gembox I might go that way because of the xlr sitch..
You are welcome!!! You are right, but unfortunately I don't have the gumbo....I have to check out if I'm able to get a good second hand occasion! Thank you for your message and suggestion!!!
Grande Leo. Mi sa che la scritta è errata nell'ultimo sample.... comunque... ottimi tutti e 3 . Forse il nux sui puliti mi sembra un po' troppo brillante. L'ampero col tuo IR sui distorti, mi sembra leggermente più vicino al reale. Buone cose
Grazie Luigi! Hai ragione...il copia e incolla finale mi ha fatto sbagliare...comunque i suoni sono giusti! Grazie anche per aver condiviso la tua opinion!!!
Hi Leo, Again, astoundingly complete video. Great work. I thought the biggest difference in sound was the clean Fender sound. The Mooer had " that Sound". The Ampero was OK. The Nux fell a bit short. A little harsher?. Other than that , I liked the Nux best.
Hello Leo & greetings from Downunder (Or Oz) Thanks for your always useful reviews & comparisons. A query about the Nux MG 30. Do I understand it correctly: with the Patches one creates from scratch or modified from the presets, there’s no “memory” or storage banks to store them as User Patches?? I sincerely hope I am wrong in this. Regards, Francis
Yes, as fa as I understood. Let me just say that anyway you can always save your patches / factory patches on external files and reload them whenever you want. Thank you for your message!
Bro, this looks like one of your toughest videos yet! These are all so similar and get have key differences that make each shine in different contexts. For my money, I think the MG 30 might be the way to go. I don't use elaborate rigs and I love that it comes with the extra pedals triggers. I don't own amps expensive enough to profile, but being able to download amps from other ppl makes the GE 200 very close in my opinion.
Hi Jesus, thank you and yes...this was pretty difficult...these video comparisons are pretty time consuming to do! Thank you also for sharing your opinion!
In your additional sounds section, how are you doing a Real Marshall Plexi with a Custom IR? what is your signal chain? Load box? Reactive Load? etc? Thanks.
Hi Leo. A question about the NUX MG-30. This multi-effects has unbalanced outputs. If you are going to play live and want to connect directly to a mixer, do you need a DI box? Congrats for your channel from Spain.
Hi, the DI box would be needed to transform the unbalanced TS cable coming out from the NUX into balanced XLR ones...in this way you will be able to run long cables (from the NUX to the mixer) without adding noise....but I don't think that they are strictly needed if your mixer has TS inputs. Thanks!
Great video review, with in-depth analysis as usual! I thought the mg-30 sounded a bit more present and sparkly on the high end both distorted or on the clean patches you played. I've noticed that in almost every demo I've heard on TH-cam that the mg-30 sounds more trebley and present. I wonder if that poses a problem on the stock presets? Did you have to dial out some of the high-end for your final settings? I do think with some tweaking the mg-30 may have the more realistic sound, but they did leave out some of the key features that the Mooer pedal offers like the profiling feature. I would like to see a head-to-head with the POD go. I know the POD is more expensive, but I think for me those two pedals are the ones I'm focused on to replace my aging Firehawk FX. I just wish the manufacturers had included XLR outs and Bluetooth functionality like the Firehawk FX has had for years. It is so convenient to tweak the amp settings off of your phone even in a live setting. God bless and rock on 😎🎸😎
with the MG-30 you can lowering the input stage (Pre EQ and the Output stage both have a 3-band EQ) Each guitar act differently so it's nice NUX has include this. I think the MG-30 sounds really nice. very nice featureset and the interface is fun to work with, I've didn't use the software yet. The unit is already fun to edit :-)
Hi, thank you, I'm really happy that you enjoyed the video! Actually I didn't touch the overall eq setting and as Lennert is saying, with the 3 band eq you can really set the tone as you want. A profiling procedure in the NUX would be great, but I don't think it's gonna happened, as Mooer products are based on profiling like Kemper where NUX is like fractal..they are modeling each component of the amp. The POD GO is in another price range...but many of you are asking a direct comparison...so maybe I will do it. Thank you for your message!!!
Would you rather advise to go for a full Hotone Ampero (the one with MIDI) or with a NUX mg30 if used for playing Metal? Especially soundwise i would be Interesse in other oppinions😄
Hi, I don't think that the music genre would make a difference in deciding for a unit or another, unless you want a specific amp that is not available in a unit: I would suggest to check out the manuals to verify which amps are available in each unit. The "regular" Ampero has midi in, balanced out, etc. even if the effect signal chain is more limited than the one of the MG 30 (for instance the Ampero does not offer parallel effects): so it depends if you need midi in or balanced out or if you prefer a more flexible signal chain. Thank you for your message!
Hi Leo. Thanks for the comparison. Love your videos, man. Do you think Ampero One is good for recording? I mean like for album wise recording, not for demo recording.
MG30: synced looper, effects loop and Internal effects re-routing options. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. I just wish you could load profiles. Never done it before, but I'd like to give it a go.
What a song! Very nice! I have the GE250 and the possibility to load profiles is what I like the most, especially those made by Choptones (still waiting your Soldano lol). Tone capture is also cool. With the same settings as the amp, the Ampero sounds better, but the same can be achieved with mooer by scoping the mids a little. Thanks Leo, wish you the best!
You are welcome! thank you for sharing your opinion...and you are right...I should do my soldano profiles...sooner or later... I wish you the best to you too!
Hi Leo, I currently have a Zoom G5n, but I'm thinking of getting Ampero One. Could you perhaps kindly give your opinion about these two, and on whether I should switch?
Hi, unfortunately I don't have the G5n so I can't tell from direct experience. I can just say that in the last 2 years the amp modeling industry has done a pretty big jump in terms of quality and features and therefore newer units should be better compared to the old ones, like the G5n Thank you for your question!
@@LeoGibsonGtr what I know is that sound-wise G5n is equal to G3n and G3Xn.. they're all older than the Ampero. Thank you for your opinion! I'd definitely put that into consideration 🙂
hello. what do you advise me, i already have zoom g3 with 3 display for stomp experience, is it worth retiring for one of these? Because I see they have the same things. loop.battery, the sounds? are they really better?
Hi Axel, I don't have the G3...it should be pretty old now, and algorithms and hardware features improve over the time...so I think that the new modelers are better, but I'm not 100% sure, as I don't have the G3. Thank you for your question!
Tone is important but also ease of use as in are you going to use it live or in the studio. When it comes to live more pedals can outway a minimal difference in tone which half the audience will never be able to tell anyway. Especially after a few pints 😂 Leo great job as usual with the comparison.
May i ask how's the nux mg30 and mooer ge200 tap tempo comparison specially on delay effects..because every now and then i tap the tempo while playing ang i dont like the "spaceship" sound like when changing tempo while playing
I've watched several of your comparison videos and I want to thank you for all your hard work. I've really enjoyed them. I'd have to call myself a very new beginner so one thing I can't help but wonder is your ability to setup the modelers from the original equipment. I don't have any of the high-priced amplifiers sitting in the room behind you to "calibrate" a modeling multi effects processor to the original. For that reason, I'd really like to know which effects processors replicate the original amps without much manual tuning. After all, what do I have to compare the processor with when I don't have access to any of those amplifiers? That's why I'd buy an effects processor, right? Anyway, I do like your comparisons and your opinions about the different effects processors.
10:43 amp 10:58 amp ir 11:46 ampero one 12:02 ampero one ir 12:18 mg 30 12:33 mg 30 ir ampero(not ampero one) vs mg30 which one do you like? I'm very confused since 3 weeks ago...
Thank you! Well, in term of sound the Ampero and the Ampero one sounds the same...so you can use this video also to check the sound differences between the MG30 and the Ampero. In terms of features the regular Ampero has the XLR out that are missing from the MG30, so this is I think the main difference. Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr actually I want to buy one of this cheap multi effects for playing in church. Light & easy to carry. Btw, now I know what to buy after watch your review. Thanks!
Thanks for sharing. I was wondering if the question that many of us tube amp lovers and pedalboard users is shall we try all you can play modelers or a decicated amp solution like iridiun or walrus ACS1?
Hi Carlos, you are welcome...well it depends: if you want an all in one solution with effects, amps etc...then go with an amp modeling pedalboard. If you just want few good amps tones and then you want to add your own effects pedals...something like the Iridium is the way to go. Thank you for your message!
All-in-one for grab 'n go & jamming at home, Walrus, NUX Solid Studio etc for "serious" stuff like gigs and recording. The Iridium didn't impress me when I tried one. It did not like many of my pedals, especially Fuzz.
Hi Ken, the next a Ampero should come in Spring...I did a video about it: th-cam.com/video/fm5jEeNFoj0/w-d-xo.html I think it's gonna be pricer than MG 30, GE 200 or Ampero one Thank you for your message!
Ciao Leo. Premesso che la qualità del tuo video è fuori discussione....... Volevo chiederti.....in questi giorni ho cervato (inutilmente) materiale esplicativo su questa pedaliera per capirne di più. In particolare volevo sapere quali fossero i 25 modelli di amplificatore emulati... Puoi aiutarmi ? Grazie
Ciao, if you go at the minute 14:52 of my demo, you can find the list: th-cam.com/video/Ie2trDPSO1Q/w-d-xo.html It's not self explanatory, but the amps should be: Roland 120 Fender Deluxe reverb Fender Bassman Fender Tweed Fender Twin reverb Hiwatt (model not clear) Mesa Boogie Lone Star (not sure) Vox AC15 e AC30 Marshall Plexi 100, 45 Marshall JCM 800 and 1987 Soldano SLO 100 Friedman BE Mesa Boogie Dual rectifier Diesel VH4 Fender Vibro King Budda (?) Z 38 Fender Super Reverb British Blues (?) Matchless Marshall JCM 2000 Thank you for your message!
Hi Jan, it's pretty hard to answer...the all can do crunch tone pretty well...maybe you can check out the beginning of the More sound section of this video where there is a comparison with a real Plexi and you can choose the one you like the most!
Yes. I don't understand why everyone seems lean towards Nux MG-30. From12:20, and 14:40 compared to original and others, there are no bass. Why is that? Can we easily fix this for all presets?
@@frederic_millenial I agree that it has no bottom end, would also like to know if it can be fixed. Would like to have preferred the mg 30 due to the 4 CM possibility but I guess I'm going with the ampero one.
@@frederic_millenial that’s what is putting me off. I’ve got a NUX mg300 which has been brilliant and has whet my appetite for a better modeller, but the mg30 seems significantly thinner than it’s cheaper version. I’m leaning towards the Ampero now after several hours of research 😂
Hi, I prefer not to give direct "sentences" as it depends from your taste and what "sound better" means for you. Thank you for your patience and I hope you understand.
Excellent presentation and comparison but I would not give preference in the current / power category based on a 100mA current difference. Maybe the extra 100mA goes to lighting. 100mA is a miniscule amount.
I think the Ampero is quite good, but to my ears the Nux sounds way more organic and responsive to the picking dynamics. I find the Ampero more like a jack of all trades, but the Nux sounds just great, even if it supports fewer effects/amps. Of course, the real Plexi sound is just way ahead of all of them, but for the money these are all great.
Hi, this is an hard question...also because they are in different price range...it depends...the GE 250 has the profiling features....where the NUX has a more advanced effect chain (with paralel effects)...so I think it really depends about what is more important for you and obviously if the price is not an issue...This is just a very sintetic opinion...but I would need to do a direct video comparison .... for a more ponderated answer...:)
@@LeoGibsonGtr I see. I have been doing some research for a time. I think IR loading, parallel path option, effect quality and tone capture/profiling are the things that make exceptional changes to the tone. I have seen/heard many times that IR loading makes the highest impact, but I am still not sure. Which feature do you think has the most effect on the tone? Let's say we have Boss GT1000 Core and Mooer GE300, both have IR loading feature. If we load the same IRs on both of these two devices, then do both devices sound extremely similar or are there still considerable differences (such as Boss effects being much better than Mooer's or vice versa)? The options are NUX MG 30, Mooer GE250/GE300, Boss GT1000 Core, Helix Stompbox. I cannot find Helix LT in local shops; therefore, I could not hear its tone. But after reading reviews/comparisons, I came to the conclusion that Boss has better sound while Helix has better user interface.
Hi Enrico, thank you very much, I'm happy you like it! Actually I didn't, I've promised that I will reveal my nationality as soon as I reach 10k subs.....😊
@@LeoGibsonGtr Hello! I have a small question regarding the Nux MG-30 processor: Can I turn off only the preamp in it? (using only the power amp section). The thing is, I want to use my own tube preamp by plugging it into the FX loop, but I also want to emulate the power amp in the processor circuit. I think it's a great idea to combine analog and digital equipment this way.
Hi, as far as I know you can not split the preamp from the power amp. Nevertheless you can still use your preamp just using the cab module of the NUX. You can still obtain pretty good results in this way, even in technically you have not a power amp in the signal chain. Thank you!
I 'can't understand why today, in the 2021, the brands like these, don't make a device with the possibilities to load almost the ir number like nux mg 30 or more (the problem is to insert a memory flash like 128MB? 512MB ? 1GB?), insert send/return and insert fx in serial o parallel...for what ? max 50/80 euro plus? If you analyze all device in the market they are "incomplete" in some of these points. Another point of comparison, for me, would be the editor for make your sounds. In this point NUX MG 30 for me wins, it's really beautiful and more immersive comparison to others. Thanks
Hi Marco, you are welcome! Thank you for sharing your opinion. Yes, I think that the price point is the reason. If you add 50 80 nowadays you hit the competitions of other modelers...here the trick is to find the right price point just offering something more in comparison with other brands...and the more the tech advance the more you can do with less money. Thank you...it's an interesting conversation.
Hi! I have a little question... For the mg-30, it's possible to record a basic loop, with drum etc and after when the loop is OK, to stop only the loop and plays on the drum in solo, and to restart the loop when you want? I hope my question is clear. Thanks for answer ☺️
Leo, I’ve noticed that you have Genelec monitors, not sure what the model is. I’m thinking of buying 8030c, I wonder if you have any thoughts on them, specifically for home studio use with guitar amp modelers.
I’ve also considered 8040b and 8050b, but I’m not sure if they represent a significant improvement for this use case. 8030c have less bass extension, but appear to actually have a flatter frequency response above 300hz than 8040b (at least according to the charts on the official site). 8050b seem great (deepest bass, while being about as neutral in the higher frequencies as 8030c), however there’s a big price jump. Genelecs are quite expensive in the US, especially the higher end models. 8050b go for $1,895 each before taxes.
Hi Victor, mine are the 8040b...I have them since a long long time...I think they are pretty good monitors and they are fine if you want to play amp modeling pedalboards with them. More or less 3 years ago I upgraded to the Focal that you can see in my studio... and after few mixes I decided to keep both as I found that my mixes sound better when they are kind in the middle between these two monitors in terms of frequency response... I mean I found the 8040 to be more bassy than the Focal, and the Focal to be better in the middle / upper freq range...so I try to get good bass sound from the Genelec and good middle and high from the Focal... Nevertheless have not try the 8030 or the 8050...so I can't tell how they compare with the 8040...8040 are good monitors. Thank you for your message!
@@LeoGibsonGtr Thank you so much for the detailed response! I have to say your music and guitar tone always sound great, so I really appreciate your opinion on these matters. BTW, I've been notified that the first batch of Quad Cortex units is getting shipped to European customers within a week, looking forward to your review!
That’s true, you have to use USB to control it using midi. AFAIK there are devices which offer midi ports and act as usb-host. Another thing I tried now: The latency of the MG30 as an audio interface seems to be really quite low. I used it with Overloud TH-U on iMac and iPad and it did work very well. I didn’t try out GElabs with it, but see no reason it would not work. This can compensate somewhat the GE200 tone capture feature. Since low latency audio interfaces are often not even cheaper than the MG30 itself, this is indeed good value.
What is the "Custom IR" when used with the real amps? It just says "Real Plexi + Custom IR". Is it downloadable, and or what is the model of the IR? Thanks!
Hi, I've recorded the plexi with a Suhr reactive load and then I have loaded an IR in my Digital Audio Workstation. In this way the real amp and the modellers are all using the same IR. You can check out the IR here: www.leogibsonguitar.com/shop-online/p/leo-essential-irs Thank you!
The MG30 actually has MIDI through USB... It even has an extensive MIDI config panel in its software where you can setup all the MIDI CC for the multitude of virtual effect knobs and switches
Complimenti Leo per i fantastici video, sei un punto di riferimento. Volevo chiederti se sai dove posso trovare l’elenco degli amp e degli effetti con relativi parametri della MG30. Sono indeciso tra la MG30 e Ampero, dovendo usare la pedaliera con basso e chitarra. Mentre per il basso nel manuale di Ampero è ben specificato l’elenco degli ampli, cab ed effetti dedicati (in particolare gli effetti di distorsione dedicati prevedono un blend), per MG 30 non ho trovato nulla se non i cab dedicati al basso (ma sul sito in qualche immagine). Quale mi consiglieresti per questo uso ibrido basso/chitarra? Grazie!
Ciao Mario, grazie dei complimenti...mi fanno veramente piacere! Effettivamente il manuale è un pò povero...la lista degli ampli la trovi in questo video: th-cam.com/video/Ie2trDPSO1Q/w-d-xo.html al minuto 14:54 ... Il video è la mia recensione dell'MG 30 e faccio sentire un pò di ampli ed effetti...mi rendo conto che non è come consultare la lista degli ampli in un manuale...ma è meglio di niente. Credo che se scorri il video dovresti trovare anche i drop down menù degli effetti. Ho ottenuto dei buoni suoni di basso da entrambe le macchine, ma sono un bassista amatore e non uso gli effetti per il basso, quindi non vorrei darti consigli sbagliati...ma le considerazioni che hai già fatto tu, credo siano corrette (es il blend).... Grazie del messaggio !
Hi Nikki, I don't have the g3 so I can tell from direct experience. I can just say that the MG 300 is newer and so it should have more modern / improved algorithms...thus sounding better. But it's just a speculation as I don't have direct experience. Thank you for your message!
Hello Leo !! Please help me in this regard.. I need a processor to use with my player series fender strat.. I want the clean tones, crunch, just slight overdrive.. no use of distortion.. I love the reverb ,ambient tones and shimmer.. which one is better?? Between these 3 or anything else in 300 dollars price range
Hi, the modelers are not design with a specific genre or type or use. They are good for metal, rock, pop, etc. Therefore I don't see any of the 3 to be excluded considering your use case. I would just suggest you to check out if the amps and fx you are searching for are available and, in the case you need parallel effects, the only unit to go is the MG 30 (as it is the only one offering parallel effects). Thank you for your question!
Hi, good question! Actually in order to answer properly I should do a direct comparison...good suggestion....maybe in the coming weeks. Thank you for your suggestion!
Nice comparison. The MG 30 in Canada retails for $389.99. The GE200 retails for $420. I have the GE200 but I'd buy the mg 30 out of the 3 compared here. As I've told you before, your comparisons and channel are among my favourites on youtube! Keep up the great work! I'd like to see more of the zoom multi effects - like the G3xn and the G5n. I know you have done the g1x four and the g11.
Hi Tony, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the channel! Thank you also for sharing your opinion! I will check out if I'm able to find some second hand occasion for the zoom...
hello just for info, i have the ge200 and another nux model the mg300, initially i found the mg300 superior to the ge200, that is in sound, im only interested in the sound. however, since I tried downloading / installing some GNR files from the mooer site, I hardly use the Nux any more. Mooer have some incredible gnr files which are basically a sort of recording of a real amp and cab that you can upload onto your unit and use as an amp model. there are many ive only tried a few and some come pretty close to that warm tube amp feel, at the moment Im using a dumble gnr file and an engl gnr amp file, far better than the preinstalled amps in my opinion...
@@dsam6990 i’ve ordered an MG 30 and it was supposed to be delivered the 21st but they knocked that into next month after the seventh. That’s very interesting about being able to load files from the Mooer site. May I ask is it a difficult thing to do as I’m not real computer savvy and also do they Offer them free if you purchased the pedal, or do you buy them. I may rethink it and cancel my order as I haven’t been charged yet.
@@LTJR. hey there, firstly the Nux MG30 is an older model than the Nux MG300, so although I haven't heard the 30, between the two I would go with the much newer MG300. My preference for the Mooer GE200 is based on what I would call the warmth like tube amp sound, I don't care if it sounds exactly like a certain model of amp which the MG300 does very well, I just want the tube like warmth. To me all these multi pedals tend to sound a bit fizzy, like if the sound was coming from a tin can, but I found a couple of GNR files for the Mooer that were slightly less fizzy for clean and overdrive. They are quit easy to install once you find them, which can be tricky and once you click on the right import button as there are 2 on the software that you have to install as well, they are free. Lastly please note that I play mostly using headphones, and if you intend to use mostly headphones, forget the above and buy the Fender Mustang Micro, so simple to use no apps, they sound to me far better than the Nux & Mooer, and for less than 100$ you will have a far closer warm tube sounding tiny headphone amp, that you can plug into an active speaker with the right cable as well. Stream music from a phone and walk around too. The Mustang Micro is all I use now, there are very little adjustments possible to the presets but unlike all pedal manufacturers Fender has made all the presets sound great, just that you can't do much tweaking, but for me that's cool cos they are much closer to a real tube amp feel, like really sweet like BB King or really sweet n sour like SRV .... Hope that helps
@@dsam6990 hey man I’m pretty sure you got that backwards and that the MG 30 is the new one and the 300 is the older. I’m definitely not firing on you just discussing. I plan to use mine for home recording and to be able to get my large pedal boards And wires off of the floor. If it’s cool I might use it live in addition to my floor pedals as I have done that before, in the older days as a sort of add on to get some of the tripped out time based effects & their ability to ramp up & down with an expression pedal. Those throbbing square wave trems, with a weird modulation like maybe a slow flange, and a ping pong delay, and you could mesmerize the dancers in the club and almost make them fall over! I may order the 300 also, so I could send my little Hotone to my cousin in Canada where the prices are so high.
Another brilliant video and tasty music Leo! I read that you can upload presets made within ge labs to the mooer(I'm not talking about sounds you profiled yourself, I'm wondering about the actual sounds within ge labs, as I really like their marshall sound). I tried reading up but it's not so clear really if these are a- the actual sounds within ge labs, or b- just the settings, that then are applied to the ampmodels already within the unit itself? I hope you can answer this for me, as I'd really love to get these sounds into a proper hardware unit, thanks for your time, Tom.
Hi Tom, in the video I'm not using the profiles done with the GE Labs App. You can of course download them from the Mooer web site, and here I have explained how to do them: th-cam.com/video/GSA9BSXaWng/w-d-xo.html As far as I know the profiles are not build upon the amp models in the unit, but are profiles of actual amp. Thank you for your message!
@@LeoGibsonGtr awesome thank you very much is a bit clearer now, if I upload one of their presets, I should then be able to get that down into a mooer unit. I'll just have to buy one now!
Hi, unfortunately I don't have a GT1, therefore I can not give you an advice from direct experience...I would say that it is a pretty old device...but I'm not sure if it sound better or worser than the MG30. Sorry
Ciao Leo e complimenti per il video, ben realizzato come di consueto. Sto davvero pensando di passare dall’Ampero al Nux MG 30, non tanto per i suoni che sono belli in entrambe le pedaliere, quanto per il loop effetti e la possibilità di usare in parallelo le modulazioni e i ritardi. Un abbraccio.
Grazie Giuseppe, sono contento che il video ti sia piaciuto....in effetti il loop di effetti ti da la possibilità di collegare la pedaliera al tuo ampli con il 4CM...anche a me è una feature che piace molto! Grazie ancora!!!
For full understanding needed to add mooer profile of this real amps and add them to this comparison! Now ampero closer to real amp (but to much high pres), then mg30( little to boomy) and then mooer. But profile in mooer potentially make it winner.
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Still the best chanel to compare pedal
Thank you, really appreciated!!!
Totally true!
Thanks!!!
Man, I’ve been watching a lot of demo and comparison videos lately and I honestly think yours are consistently the best I’ve seen. Thanks for these!
Hi Ryan, thank you so much, this is a great compliment that really makes me happy!!!
@Leo you helped me pick my fav pedal so i made sure all my musician friends watch ur comparison videos first before they buy smthg...thanks so much Leo ,love your channel
10:42 plexi+cab
10:58 plexi+custom ir
11:14 ge200 stock ir
11:30 ge200 custom ir
11:46 ampero stock ir
12:02 ampero custom ir
12:18 mg30 stock ir
12:33 mg30 custom ir
final: stock ir : mg30>ge200>ampero
custom ir: ampero>mg30=ge200
Just for me
Thanks!
Great video, it really helps, specially on the specifications charts, I want to choose between mooer ge 250 vs Nux mg 30, I know that those are in different levels but I want to know if the ge 250 worths the double of price of the mg 30 I usually play live in small bars
Oh Yeah !
The hotone with Ir is really identical to the original amp.
Mg30 is what I wish to hear from a modeller to sounds like and what I imagine the original amp sounds will be, It so close to a real amp but not sounds like the original amp. With the 32bit/48khz and 11 blocks, I think it really can fight with the pod go.
I wish it will have a bluetooth or some special funtion in next premium model.
Ge200 is lack of dynamic and clearity, it sounds like looking for youtube in 240p.
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!
I would chose the MG-30 for the 4-cable method. That said, I actually think the Ampero with the custom IRs sounded the best to my ears.
Hi Daniel, thank you for sharing...the 4CM is pretty important as you can use it with your amp or with a different preamp+cab
Thank you!
Hi Leo!!! Great video!! I have just discover your channel! One question!! Do you think is a good option for the price to have one of this connected to my little amp at home (supro delta king 8)? My idea is to use most of the time only the effects to complement the natural sound of the amp. In that case, which one of the 3 has better effects/sound?? I dont mind to have less effects, I prefer the simplicity and the better sound. Obviously, I would use it also with headphones for prscticing using all the features (amps and cabs simulators). In thinking in mg-30 but appreciate your recommendation. Thank you in advance!!!! Regards from Spain!!!
Hi Carlos, thank you so much, I'm happy that you like the video! If you want to use it one of these unit with your amp, I think that you need the possibility to connect your amp with the pedalboard with the 4 cable method, and that only unit which allows this possibility is the MG 30.
Thank you!
Forget about features for a moment. I want a great sounding system. And in my opinion the Ampero One sounds way better than the other two.
Hi Tim, thank you for sharing your opinion!
I just received the Ampero One . I bought it used in excellent condition. I’m waiting on 2 head rush frfr 108s. Kinda teasing myself until they arrive from Sweetwater. Looking forward to getting it on with the Ampero …
AGREE THE HOTONE HAS THE BETTER SOUNDS ALL TOGETHER, THE NUX JUST SOUNDS CHEAP
Glad I waited for the 2x head rush amps for the Ampero one . Killer killer killer . Now if I can just get some help figuring out how to get the Ampero One Editor to work with my Mac / with Big Sur . Ampere support sent me a very vague email saying it would work , recommended trying a different cable , different USB port , nothing helped . Keeps saying can’t be use in the downloaded format . I am not a computer guy . I’m 59 and old freekin school. Any one out there who knows what I’m not doing right I’m damn frustrated . I emailed Ampero again for assistance but they have not responded . Keep Rockin America
I just snapped the one that was the cheapest second hand on Amazon - GE200 for 140 eur :)
Thank you for sharing!
I have Nux MG30 and I really want to tell you that in Nux MG30 Amps are not good , Nux mg400 is much better for metal tone
Hi, thank you for sharing your findings!
i vote for Ampero for the tone
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion!
@@LeoGibsonGtr Fractal designer has said of your demos that the load you use is responsible for hi end ressonance that is not present in the real amps and as a result both your IRs and your real amp vs (modeller + its own cab sim) sound brighter than it should.
To be honest, neither the suhr reactive load or any other load does something about the negative feedback from the speaker to the power amp, it's an incomplete procedure. Unless you are comparing to amps without negative feedback like mesa rectifier modern mode etc, or vox ac15, ac30. However real amps blown out volume wise (full tilt!) also loose their negative feedback and become scratchier, boomier. He is kind of right...
Hi Leo! I’m leaning towards the MG-30. Is it possible to place in front of a combo amp and use it as a stomp, for example only for the modulation, reverb and delay stages?
Hi, yes it is. Just remember to remove the amp and cab blocks from the signal chain.
Thank you for your message!
Another superb comparison video! Your attention to detail and thoroughness are greatly appreciated!
Thank you Steve, I'm super happy you like the video!
Dear Leo as always!! Great video!! 😎🤘
Nux included a 3-band input EQ and an 3-band output EQ each with level trim. These can be find in Pre-Eq en Output settings in the global settings. This make it easier to fit your guitar with the unit and make a proper gainstage setting (I want my master volume knobs between 50/75% with lots of headroom to play with. Be aware that the presets the unit comes with has been made with different guitars and input/output stages. So please don't judge gear by listen to presets. Presets are just building blocks to give you insight reverse engineering a sound or setting. Just pick your gear that works for you and make some music! 😎🤘
Hi, thank you, really appreciated! Thank you also for sharing your opinion and experience!
You know Leo made some of the presets, right? Did you just insult him? ;)
@@RobGross12Hahaha Nice one, No I had no intentions insulting Leo or any artist (I've made a back-up of all the factory presets to a file with the quicktone editor 😌☝🏻) Not gonna lie: Leo presets sounding great as also of some others (too bad Leo's presets comes later in the list, the unit starts with some over processed ones) 😎🤘 disclaimer: No artists were harmed during the writing of both comments
Hey man just noticed your comment, I've been looking for a way to get better headroom out of my MG30. How low do you set the levels on your patches'? I'm referring to the level knob that usually sits beside the bias knob in the preamp section. Thanks man.
Ampero One for me
Thank you for sharing your opinion!
Man i feel the MG-30 Lacks Lows and Low mids. I own one, i had Boss Gt-1 before. I Loved the GT-1 for its fullness. With rectifier of MG-30 there is no Low end at all, i dont know why they included a Bass Knob then.... I have no idea how youtubers can promote this pedal. i see the low end lack in every video on youtube. I regret buying MG-30 ,Is there anything I have to try out? Or is there anything special not to sell my MG-30?..... Expecting a reply, Thanks.
Great video! Leo is always neat and accurate. Yes, of course the GE 200 isn't the winner, but the other challengers are years newer! In terms of digital effects at least one year more or even less is just a long time... I own a GE 200, and I can honestly complaint the lack of firmware update (almost 4 years the last one! Shame on you, mooer!), but the sound is very good to my ears. How rightly Leo says, the sound isn't the only important feature of an electronic device, I know - I've already tried the tube amp with analogic pedalboard of a friend of mine (other world!) - but I don't play like Leo, so a cheap pedal is right for me (also full of advantages: sound card, preamp, lightweight, etc). However I didn't hear (at least, listening with headphones on YT) this huge sound improvement between GE 200 and the newest ones. Yes one or two additional ports, a little bit more quality accuracy... to me nothing more than marketing strategies. Like cellphones... one more camera, little bit more space, so there, a new model! I didn't hear a sound "revolution". When i sold my me-80 to buy the GE 200 the difference to my ears was sharply! And this is not the case. Here there are devices with similar features (one gaining in some and losing in the others) where everyone can say "this is the best"or where the difference is so slight that can fall in personal tastes... I've also tried the ampero in a music shop and I've found the feeling with expression pedal unpleasantly uncomfortable. I will wait more time before selling my little pedal, until arrive a real revolution in cheap multi effects world.
Thank you Damiano, I'm happy that you appreciate the video!
Thank you also for sharing your experience and opinions...interesting points.
Thank you!
It is funny that you feel a "bit biased" to the unit that was received as a gift. When you received the GE200LT you"could not decide" between it and the MG30 😂😂😂
Thanks for your work Leo. I’d love to see the mg30 vs joyo gembox 3. If the modelling was as good on the gembox I might go that way because of the xlr sitch..
You are welcome!!!
You are right, but unfortunately I don't have the gumbo....I have to check out if I'm able to get a good second hand occasion!
Thank you for your message and suggestion!!!
Thank you for the comparison 🤘
You are welcome!!!
I love the "RVB HF" feature of the MG-30 so much, I will miss it in all modelers to follow 😆
:) Thank you for sharing!
Thanks again Leo. Nux MG30 a step ahead
You are welcome!!!
Grande Leo. Mi sa che la scritta è errata nell'ultimo sample.... comunque... ottimi tutti e 3 . Forse il nux sui puliti mi sembra un po' troppo brillante. L'ampero col tuo IR sui distorti, mi sembra leggermente più vicino al reale. Buone cose
Grazie Luigi! Hai ragione...il copia e incolla finale mi ha fatto sbagliare...comunque i suoni sono giusti!
Grazie anche per aver condiviso la tua opinion!!!
Hi Leo,
Again, astoundingly complete video. Great work. I thought the biggest difference in sound was the clean Fender sound. The Mooer had " that Sound". The Ampero was OK. The Nux fell a bit short. A little harsher?. Other than that , I liked the Nux best.
Hi Martin, thank you so much, both for the compliments and for sharing your findings!!!!
Hello Leo & greetings from Downunder (Or Oz)
Thanks for your always useful reviews & comparisons.
A query about the Nux MG 30. Do I understand it correctly: with the Patches one creates from scratch or modified from the presets, there’s no “memory” or storage banks to store them as User Patches??
I sincerely hope I am wrong in this.
Regards,
Francis
Yes, as fa as I understood. Let me just say that anyway you can always save your patches / factory patches on external files and reload them whenever you want.
Thank you for your message!
Sounds like a hassle
Hi leo 👋🏻, I think the ampero sound more like the real amp
Hi Pablo, ok, thank you for sharing your opinion!!
Bro, this looks like one of your toughest videos yet! These are all so similar and get have key differences that make each shine in different contexts. For my money, I think the MG 30 might be the way to go. I don't use elaborate rigs and I love that it comes with the extra pedals triggers. I don't own amps expensive enough to profile, but being able to download amps from other ppl makes the GE 200 very close in my opinion.
Hi Jesus, thank you and yes...this was pretty difficult...these video comparisons are pretty time consuming to do!
Thank you also for sharing your opinion!
which among the three has a menu Amp/mic/effecr for vocal
Hi, neither one, as far as I know. If someone has better info, please drop us a message!
Thank you for your question!
In your additional sounds section, how are you doing a Real Marshall Plexi with a Custom IR? what is your signal chain? Load box? Reactive Load? etc? Thanks.
Hi, I use a Suhr reactive load.
Thank you for your message!
Just subscribed. Thank you for these very detailed comparisons, helps for more informed buying decisions.
Thank you so much, I'm super happy to have been of some help, and your sub really means a lot to me!!!
Hi Leo. A question about the NUX MG-30.
This multi-effects has unbalanced outputs. If you are going to play live and want to connect directly to a mixer, do you need a DI box?
Congrats for your channel from Spain.
Hi, the DI box would be needed to transform the unbalanced TS cable coming out from the NUX into balanced XLR ones...in this way you will be able to run long cables (from the NUX to the mixer) without adding noise....but I don't think that they are strictly needed if your mixer has TS inputs.
Thanks!
@@LeoGibsonGtr Thanks for your answer.
Great video review, with in-depth analysis as usual! I thought the mg-30 sounded a bit more present and sparkly on the high end both distorted or on the clean patches you played. I've noticed that in almost every demo I've heard on TH-cam that the mg-30 sounds more trebley and present. I wonder if that poses a problem on the stock presets? Did you have to dial out some of the high-end for your final settings? I do think with some tweaking the mg-30 may have the more realistic sound, but they did leave out some of the key features that the Mooer pedal offers like the profiling feature. I would like to see a head-to-head with the POD go. I know the POD is more expensive, but I think for me those two pedals are the ones I'm focused on to replace my aging Firehawk FX. I just wish the manufacturers had included XLR outs and Bluetooth functionality like the Firehawk FX has had for years. It is so convenient to tweak the amp settings off of your phone even in a live setting. God bless and rock on 😎🎸😎
with the MG-30 you can lowering the input stage (Pre EQ and the Output stage both have a 3-band EQ) Each guitar act differently so it's nice NUX has include this. I think the MG-30 sounds really nice. very nice featureset and the interface is fun to work with, I've didn't use the software yet. The unit is already fun to edit :-)
Hi, thank you, I'm really happy that you enjoyed the video! Actually I didn't touch the overall eq setting and as Lennert is saying, with the 3 band eq you can really set the tone as you want. A profiling procedure in the NUX would be great, but I don't think it's gonna happened, as Mooer products are based on profiling like Kemper where NUX is like fractal..they are modeling each component of the amp.
The POD GO is in another price range...but many of you are asking a direct comparison...so maybe I will do it.
Thank you for your message!!!
Would you rather advise to go for a full Hotone Ampero (the one with MIDI) or with a NUX mg30 if used for playing Metal? Especially soundwise i would be Interesse in other oppinions😄
Hi, I don't think that the music genre would make a difference in deciding for a unit or another, unless you want a specific amp that is not available in a unit: I would suggest to check out the manuals to verify which amps are available in each unit.
The "regular" Ampero has midi in, balanced out, etc. even if the effect signal chain is more limited than the one of the MG 30 (for instance the Ampero does not offer parallel effects): so it depends if you need midi in or balanced out or if you prefer a more flexible signal chain.
Thank you for your message!
Hi Leo. Thanks for the comparison. Love your videos, man. Do you think Ampero One is good for recording? I mean like for album wise recording, not for demo recording.
Hi, thank you, I'm happy that you like the videos!!!
Yes, sure...in a mixed song it is gonna be hard to notice the difference...if any...
Your demos are awesome!
Thank you, I'm happy you like my videos!
MG30: synced looper, effects loop and Internal effects re-routing options. Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
I just wish you could load profiles. Never done it before, but I'd like to give it a go.
Loading profiles in the MG30 would be for sure super cool...
Thank you for your message!
What a song! Very nice! I have the GE250 and the possibility to load profiles is what I like the most, especially those made by Choptones (still waiting your Soldano lol). Tone capture is also cool. With the same settings as the amp, the Ampero sounds better, but the same can be achieved with mooer by scoping the mids a little. Thanks Leo, wish you the best!
You are welcome! thank you for sharing your opinion...and you are right...I should do my soldano profiles...sooner or later...
I wish you the best to you too!
Hi Leo, I currently have a Zoom G5n, but I'm thinking of getting Ampero One.
Could you perhaps kindly give your opinion about these two, and on whether I should switch?
Hi, unfortunately I don't have the G5n so I can't tell from direct experience.
I can just say that in the last 2 years the amp modeling industry has done a pretty big jump in terms of quality and features and therefore newer units should be better compared to the old ones, like the G5n
Thank you for your question!
@@LeoGibsonGtr what I know is that sound-wise G5n is equal to G3n and G3Xn.. they're all older than the Ampero.
Thank you for your opinion! I'd definitely put that into consideration 🙂
hello. what do you advise me, i already have zoom g3 with 3 display for stomp experience, is it worth retiring for one of these? Because I see they have the same things. loop.battery, the sounds? are they really better?
Hi Axel, I don't have the G3...it should be pretty old now, and algorithms and hardware features improve over the time...so I think that the new modelers are better, but I'm not 100% sure, as I don't have the G3.
Thank you for your question!
Thanks for the video, the effects loop definitely swings it for me, I wish it was a stereo loop! Maybe the next machine...
You are welcome! Yes, the fx loop is a pretty cool feature, that unlocks the 4 CB...pretty useful!
Thank you for your message!
i thought the ampero sounded the best to be honest... shouldnt that weigh the most in the decision ?
Hi, the tone is a personal choice and of course if for you the difference is so evident, it is an important decision point.
Thank you for sharing!
Tone is important but also ease of use as in are you going to use it live or in the studio. When it comes to live more pedals can outway a minimal difference in tone which half the audience will never be able to tell anyway. Especially after a few pints 😂 Leo great job as usual with the comparison.
Big thank you from Korea
Your videos are really helpful for many people who are considering to buy pedalboard
Thank you so much, I'm happy to be of some help!!!
May i ask how's the nux mg30 and mooer ge200 tap tempo comparison specially on delay effects..because every now and then i tap the tempo while playing ang i dont like the "spaceship" sound like when changing tempo while playing
Fantastic this is available, about 2 watch, currently i lean toward the Nux MG30, lets see if that changes:) thanking U
You are welcome!
I've watched several of your comparison videos and I want to thank you for all your hard work. I've really enjoyed them. I'd have to call myself a very new beginner so one thing I can't help but wonder is your ability to setup the modelers from the original equipment. I don't have any of the high-priced amplifiers sitting in the room behind you to "calibrate" a modeling multi effects processor to the original. For that reason, I'd really like to know which effects processors replicate the original amps without much manual tuning. After all, what do I have to compare the processor with when I don't have access to any of those amplifiers? That's why I'd buy an effects processor, right? Anyway, I do like your comparisons and your opinions about the different effects processors.
Great comparison. The chart was really, really useful. Thank you so much!
Thank you, I'm really happy you like the video and that you find the chart useful!
10:43 amp
10:58 amp ir
11:46 ampero one
12:02 ampero one ir
12:18 mg 30
12:33 mg 30 ir
ampero(not ampero one) vs mg30
which one do you like?
I'm very confused since 3 weeks ago...
Thank you! Well, in term of sound the Ampero and the Ampero one sounds the same...so you can use this video also to check the sound differences between the MG30 and the Ampero. In terms of features the regular Ampero has the XLR out that are missing from the MG30, so this is I think the main difference.
Thank you!
@@LeoGibsonGtr Thank you for the tip!
You are welcome!!!
Ampero one sounds very close to the real amp
Hi Charles, thank you for sharing your opinion!
@@LeoGibsonGtr my request is, I want you to make a comparison video between joyo gem box 3 & ampero one. Please
Hi Charles, unfortunately I don't have the Joyo...maybe I will do it, if I'm able to get a cheap second hand Joyo.
Thank you for your suggestion!
@@LeoGibsonGtr actually I want to buy one of this cheap multi effects for playing in church. Light & easy to carry. Btw, now I know what to buy after watch your review. Thanks!
Thank you Charles, I'm happy to have been of some help!
Thanks for sharing. I was wondering if the question that many of us tube amp lovers and pedalboard users is shall we try all you can play modelers or a decicated amp solution like iridiun or walrus ACS1?
Hi Carlos, you are welcome...well it depends: if you want an all in one solution with effects, amps etc...then go with an amp modeling pedalboard. If you just want few good amps tones and then you want to add your own effects pedals...something like the Iridium is the way to go.
Thank you for your message!
All-in-one for grab 'n go & jamming at home, Walrus, NUX Solid Studio etc for "serious" stuff like gigs and recording.
The Iridium didn't impress me when I tried one. It did not like many of my pedals, especially Fuzz.
When is the next ampero and mooer coming out? I think the nux supports midi over usb
Hi Ken, the next a Ampero should come in Spring...I did a video about it: th-cam.com/video/fm5jEeNFoj0/w-d-xo.html
I think it's gonna be pricer than MG 30, GE 200 or Ampero one
Thank you for your message!
Ciao Leo. Premesso che la qualità del tuo video è fuori discussione.......
Volevo chiederti.....in questi giorni ho cervato (inutilmente) materiale esplicativo su questa pedaliera per capirne di più. In particolare volevo sapere quali fossero i 25 modelli di amplificatore emulati...
Puoi aiutarmi ?
Grazie
Ciao,
if you go at the minute 14:52 of my demo, you can find the list: th-cam.com/video/Ie2trDPSO1Q/w-d-xo.html
It's not self explanatory, but the amps should be:
Roland 120
Fender Deluxe reverb
Fender Bassman
Fender Tweed
Fender Twin reverb
Hiwatt (model not clear)
Mesa Boogie Lone Star (not sure)
Vox AC15 e AC30
Marshall Plexi 100, 45
Marshall JCM 800 and 1987
Soldano SLO 100
Friedman BE
Mesa Boogie Dual rectifier
Diesel VH4
Fender Vibro King
Budda (?)
Z 38
Fender Super Reverb
British Blues (?)
Matchless
Marshall JCM 2000
Thank you for your message!
One of the best comparison videos that I have seen lately, awesome work mate!
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
In your opinion which one is best only in sound quality (focus on crunch/drive sound)?
Hi Jan, it's pretty hard to answer...the all can do crunch tone pretty well...maybe you can check out the beginning of the More sound section of this video where there is a comparison with a real Plexi and you can choose the one you like the most!
Is it possible to stack 2/3 delays in mooer me200❓
Hi, no it is not possible as far as I know.
Thank you for your question!
Nux MG-30 costs 247.9€ on Th, please check. Thank you for your work.
Thank you!
Actually I have just check it out and it is still 299. Maybe you are posting the price without VAT?
Thank you once more!
ありがとうLeo！
最高の比較レポートでした。
Thank you, I'm happy you like the video!
The best amp sounds goes to Ampero. You can clearly hear the difference
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion
Yes. I don't understand why everyone seems lean towards Nux MG-30. From12:20, and 14:40 compared to original and others, there are no bass. Why is that? Can we easily fix this for all presets?
@@frederic_millenial I agree that it has no bottom end, would also like to know if it can be fixed. Would like to have preferred the mg 30 due to the 4 CM possibility but I guess I'm going with the ampero one.
@@frederic_millenial that’s what is putting me off. I’ve got a NUX mg300 which has been brilliant and has whet my appetite for a better modeller, but the mg30 seems significantly thinner than it’s cheaper version. I’m leaning towards the Ampero now after several hours of research 😂
MG30 MG30 MG30.
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I did not know you have a twin brother..
Well...actually I have 4 twins, according to this video: th-cam.com/video/nxFsD1OXwZk/w-d-xo.html
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If I ask you which one you like most from this three if price is no matter?
Hi, I prefer not to give direct "sentences" as it depends from your taste and what "sound better" means for you.
Thank you for your patience and I hope you understand.
Excellent presentation and comparison but I would not give preference in the current / power category based on a 100mA current difference. Maybe the extra 100mA goes to lighting. 100mA is a miniscule amount.
Thank you Mark. Ok, thank you for sharing your opinion!
For the quality of sounds, Ampero wins, hands down. Period.
Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion.
I think the Ampero is quite good, but to my ears the Nux sounds way more organic and responsive to the picking dynamics. I find the Ampero more like a jack of all trades, but the Nux sounds just great, even if it supports fewer effects/amps. Of course, the real Plexi sound is just way ahead of all of them, but for the money these are all great.
Hi Leo, which one to buy between Mooer GE250 vs NUX MG 30 according to you?
Hi, this is an hard question...also because they are in different price range...it depends...the GE 250 has the profiling features....where the NUX has a more advanced effect chain (with paralel effects)...so I think it really depends about what is more important for you and obviously if the price is not an issue...This is just a very sintetic opinion...but I would need to do a direct video comparison .... for a more ponderated answer...:)
@@LeoGibsonGtr I see. I have been doing some research for a time. I think IR loading, parallel path option, effect quality and tone capture/profiling are the things that make exceptional changes to the tone. I have seen/heard many times that IR loading makes the highest impact, but I am still not sure. Which feature do you think has the most effect on the tone?
Let's say we have Boss GT1000 Core and Mooer GE300, both have IR loading feature. If we load the same IRs on both of these two devices, then do both devices sound extremely similar or are there still considerable differences (such as Boss effects being much better than Mooer's or vice versa)?
The options are NUX MG 30, Mooer GE250/GE300, Boss GT1000 Core, Helix Stompbox.
I cannot find Helix LT in local shops; therefore, I could not hear its tone. But after reading reviews/comparisons, I came to the conclusion that Boss has better sound while Helix has better user interface.
thank you for great and detailed comparison, helped so much
You are welcome, I'm really happy to have been of some help!
As usual top review. Did you ever disclosed where you're coming from?
Hi Enrico, thank you very much, I'm happy you like it!
Actually I didn't, I've promised that I will reveal my nationality as soon as I reach 10k subs.....😊
@@LeoGibsonGtr than I have to push all my friends to subscribe
😊 this is a great idea!!! 😊👍🏻
Plexi / Hotone / Nux
10:42 / 11:45 / 12:17
10:58 / 12:01 / 12:33
Thank you Vasiliy
@@LeoGibsonGtr Hello! I have a small question regarding the Nux MG-30 processor:
Can I turn off only the preamp in it? (using only the power amp section). The thing is, I want to use my own tube preamp by plugging it into the FX loop, but I also want to emulate the power amp in the processor circuit.
I think it's a great idea to combine analog and digital equipment this way.
Hi, as far as I know you can not split the preamp from the power amp. Nevertheless you can still use your preamp just using the cab module of the NUX. You can still obtain pretty good results in this way, even in technically you have not a power amp in the signal chain.
Thank you!
I 'can't understand why today, in the 2021, the brands like these, don't make a device with the possibilities to load almost the ir number like nux mg 30 or more (the problem is to insert a memory flash like 128MB? 512MB ? 1GB?), insert send/return and insert fx in serial o parallel...for what ? max 50/80 euro plus? If you analyze all device in the market they are "incomplete" in some of these points. Another point of comparison, for me, would be the editor for make your sounds. In this point NUX MG 30 for me wins, it's really beautiful and more immersive comparison to others. Thanks
Hi Marco, you are welcome!
Thank you for sharing your opinion. Yes, I think that the price point is the reason. If you add 50 80 nowadays you hit the competitions of other modelers...here the trick is to find the right price point just offering something more in comparison with other brands...and the more the tech advance the more you can do with less money.
Thank you...it's an interesting conversation.
Video info/presentation is top class 2 match your playing, fab stuff all round
Thank you, I'm happy you like the video!
Hi! I have a little question... For the mg-30, it's possible to record a basic loop, with drum etc and after when the loop is OK, to stop only the loop and plays on the drum in solo, and to restart the loop when you want?
I hope my question is clear. Thanks for answer ☺️
Hi Tony, I'm not sure .... If someone knows, please drop us a message!
Okok thank you very much for you'r answer
leo, could you please do mg 300 vs mg 30?
Hi Bryan, it was a comparison I wanted to do...but finally I didn't find the time...maybe in the future.
Thank you for your suggestion!
Leo, I’ve noticed that you have Genelec monitors, not sure what the model is. I’m thinking of buying 8030c, I wonder if you have any thoughts on them, specifically for home studio use with guitar amp modelers.
I’ve also considered 8040b and 8050b, but I’m not sure if they represent a significant improvement for this use case. 8030c have less bass extension, but appear to actually have a flatter frequency response above 300hz than 8040b (at least according to the charts on the official site). 8050b seem great (deepest bass, while being about as neutral in the higher frequencies as 8030c), however there’s a big price jump. Genelecs are quite expensive in the US, especially the higher end models. 8050b go for $1,895 each before taxes.
Hi Victor, mine are the 8040b...I have them since a long long time...I think they are pretty good monitors and they are fine if you want to play amp modeling pedalboards with them. More or less 3 years ago I upgraded to the Focal that you can see in my studio... and after few mixes I decided to keep both as I found that my mixes sound better when they are kind in the middle between these two monitors in terms of frequency response... I mean I found the 8040 to be more bassy than the Focal, and the Focal to be better in the middle / upper freq range...so I try to get good bass sound from the Genelec and good middle and high from the Focal...
Nevertheless have not try the 8030 or the 8050...so I can't tell how they compare with the 8040...8040 are good monitors.
Thank you for your message!
@@LeoGibsonGtr Thank you so much for the detailed response! I have to say your music and guitar tone always sound great, so I really appreciate your opinion on these matters. BTW, I've been notified that the first batch of Quad Cortex units is getting shipped to European customers within a week, looking forward to your review!
@@boshi9 Thank you Victor, yes I've paid mine monday...so ... I'm waiting... :)
you're the best .. thank you for the effort .. really2 help
Thank you so much! I'm happy to have been of some help!
The price range is not the same for ge200.. it's much cheaper of the three.. anyways, superb demo songs and exceptional playing.. BRAVO!
Thank you, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
The MG30 has a BIAS setting, global EQ&trim for input and output, Low/High-Cut in IRs and a very low latency (2ms)... and it actually has MIDI
Hi, thank you for sharing. Let me just add that it does not have a midi port.
That’s true, you have to use USB to control it using midi. AFAIK there are devices which offer midi ports and act as usb-host. Another thing I tried now: The latency of the MG30 as an audio interface seems to be really quite low. I used it with Overloud TH-U on iMac and iPad and it did work very well. I didn’t try out GElabs with it, but see no reason it would not work. This can compensate somewhat the GE200 tone capture feature. Since low latency audio interfaces are often not even cheaper than the MG30 itself, this is indeed good value.
@@aptfx Hey man, can you use Positive Grid BIAS FX2 or NEURAL DSP Plugins using NUX MG30?
What is the "Custom IR" when used with the real amps? It just says "Real Plexi + Custom IR". Is it downloadable, and or what is the model of the IR? Thanks!
Hi, I've recorded the plexi with a Suhr reactive load and then I have loaded an IR in my Digital Audio Workstation. In this way the real amp and the modellers are all using the same IR. You can check out the IR here: www.leogibsonguitar.com/shop-online/p/leo-essential-irs
Thank you!
Thank you Leo - great review/comparison! Very much appreciated!
You are more than welcome!!! I'm happy you like it!!
MIDI was critical for me, so I got an HX Stomp. Really nice demo tune and playing. Thanks
Thank you for sharing ... yes, a midi port would have been a pretty nice addition!
The MG30 actually has MIDI through USB... It even has an extensive MIDI config panel in its software where you can setup all the MIDI CC for the multitude of virtual effect knobs and switches
Complimenti Leo per i fantastici video, sei un punto di riferimento. Volevo chiederti se sai dove posso trovare l’elenco degli amp e degli effetti con relativi parametri della MG30. Sono indeciso tra la MG30 e Ampero, dovendo usare la pedaliera con basso e chitarra. Mentre per il basso nel manuale di Ampero è ben specificato l’elenco degli ampli, cab ed effetti dedicati (in particolare gli effetti di distorsione dedicati prevedono un blend), per MG 30 non ho trovato nulla se non i cab dedicati al basso (ma sul sito in qualche immagine). Quale mi consiglieresti per questo uso ibrido basso/chitarra? Grazie!
Ciao Mario, grazie dei complimenti...mi fanno veramente piacere!
Effettivamente il manuale è un pò povero...la lista degli ampli la trovi in questo video: th-cam.com/video/Ie2trDPSO1Q/w-d-xo.html al minuto 14:54 ... Il video è la mia recensione dell'MG 30 e faccio sentire un pò di ampli ed effetti...mi rendo conto che non è come consultare la lista degli ampli in un manuale...ma è meglio di niente. Credo che se scorri il video dovresti trovare anche i drop down menù degli effetti.
Ho ottenuto dei buoni suoni di basso da entrambe le macchine, ma sono un bassista amatore e non uso gli effetti per il basso, quindi non vorrei darti consigli sbagliati...ma le considerazioni che hai già fatto tu, credo siano corrette (es il blend)....
Grazie del messaggio !
Grazie Leo per le gentilissima risposta.
need help, Zoom g3XN or NUX MG300??
Hi Nikki, I don't have the g3 so I can tell from direct experience. I can just say that the MG 300 is newer and so it should have more modern / improved algorithms...thus sounding better. But it's just a speculation as I don't have direct experience.
Thank you for your message!
@@LeoGibsonGtr thanks bro
best demo comparisons anywhere, thanks.
Thank you so much Luigi, really appreciated!!!
Everything is good with IR, I think Mooer will be more convenient in terms of control and switching capabilities
Hi, thank you for sharing!
Hello Leo !! Please help me in this regard..
I need a processor to use with my player series fender strat.. I want the clean tones, crunch, just slight overdrive.. no use of distortion.. I love the reverb ,ambient tones and shimmer.. which one is better?? Between these 3 or anything else in 300 dollars price range
Hi, the modelers are not design with a specific genre or type or use. They are good for metal, rock, pop, etc. Therefore I don't see any of the 3 to be excluded considering your use case. I would just suggest you to check out if the amps and fx you are searching for are available and, in the case you need parallel effects, the only unit to go is the MG 30 (as it is the only one offering parallel effects).
Thank you for your question!
Which do you recommend between the nux mg30 and the mooer ge250? I get both at the same price
Hi, good question!
Actually in order to answer properly I should do a direct comparison...good suggestion....maybe in the coming weeks.
Thank you for your suggestion!
Hot guitar playing all around:)
Thank you, really appreciated! I'm happy you like it!
Great job as always! Thanks!
You are welcome and I'm happy that you appreciate the video!!
I have ordered two MG-300s and both were broken. I'm never buying a Nux product again. Waiting for my Hotone Ampero One. I hope the quality is better.
Hi...it's a misfortune! Thank you for sharing you opinion and experience!
Nice comparison. The MG 30 in Canada retails for $389.99. The GE200 retails for $420. I have the GE200 but I'd buy the mg 30 out of the 3 compared here. As I've told you before, your comparisons and channel are among my favourites on youtube! Keep up the great work! I'd like to see more of the zoom multi effects - like the G3xn and the G5n. I know you have done the g1x four and the g11.
Hi Tony, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the channel!
Thank you also for sharing your opinion!
I will check out if I'm able to find some second hand occasion for the zoom...
hello just for info, i have the ge200 and another nux model the mg300, initially i found the mg300 superior to the ge200, that is in sound, im only interested in the sound. however, since I tried downloading / installing some GNR files from the mooer site, I hardly use the Nux any more. Mooer have some incredible gnr files which are basically a sort of recording of a real amp and cab that you can upload onto your unit and use as an amp model. there are many ive only tried a few and some come pretty close to that warm tube amp feel, at the moment Im using a dumble gnr file and an engl gnr amp file, far better than the preinstalled amps in my opinion...
@@dsam6990 i’ve ordered an MG 30 and it was supposed to be delivered the 21st but they knocked that into next month after the seventh. That’s very interesting about being able to load files from the Mooer site. May I ask is it a difficult thing to do as I’m not real computer savvy and also do they Offer them free if you purchased the pedal, or do you buy them. I may rethink it and cancel my order as I haven’t been charged yet.
@@LTJR. hey there, firstly the Nux MG30 is an older model than the Nux MG300, so although I haven't heard the 30, between the two I would go with the much newer MG300. My preference for the Mooer GE200 is based on what I would call the warmth like tube amp sound, I don't care if it sounds exactly like a certain model of amp which the MG300 does very well, I just want the tube like warmth. To me all these multi pedals tend to sound a bit fizzy, like if the sound was coming from a tin can, but I found a couple of GNR files for the Mooer that were slightly less fizzy for clean and overdrive. They are quit easy to install once you find them, which can be tricky and once you click on the right import button as there are 2 on the software that you have to install as well, they are free. Lastly please note that I play mostly using headphones, and if you intend to use mostly headphones, forget the above and buy the Fender Mustang Micro, so simple to use no apps, they sound to me far better than the Nux & Mooer, and for less than 100$ you will have a far closer warm tube sounding tiny headphone amp, that you can plug into an active speaker with the right cable as well. Stream music from a phone and walk around too. The Mustang Micro is all I use now, there are very little adjustments possible to the presets but unlike all pedal manufacturers Fender has made all the presets sound great, just that you can't do much tweaking, but for me that's cool cos they are much closer to a real tube amp feel, like really sweet like BB King or really sweet n sour like SRV .... Hope that helps
@@dsam6990 hey man I’m pretty sure you got that backwards and that the MG 30 is the new one and the 300 is the older. I’m definitely not firing on you just discussing. I plan to use mine for home recording and to be able to get my large pedal boards And wires off of the floor. If it’s cool I might use it live in addition to my floor pedals as I have done that before, in the older days as a sort of add on to get some of the tripped out time based effects & their ability to ramp up & down with an expression pedal. Those throbbing square wave trems, with a weird modulation like maybe a slow flange, and a ping pong delay, and you could mesmerize the dancers in the club and almost make them fall over! I may order the 300 also, so I could send my little Hotone to my cousin in Canada where the prices are so high.
Another brilliant video and tasty music Leo!
I read that you can upload presets made within ge labs to the mooer(I'm not talking about sounds you profiled yourself, I'm wondering about the actual sounds within ge labs, as I really like their marshall sound). I tried reading up but it's not so clear really if these are a- the actual sounds within ge labs, or b- just the settings, that then are applied to the ampmodels already within the unit itself? I hope you can answer this for me, as I'd really love to get these sounds into a proper hardware unit, thanks for your time, Tom.
Hi Tom, in the video I'm not using the profiles done with the GE Labs App.
You can of course download them from the Mooer web site, and here I have explained how to do them: th-cam.com/video/GSA9BSXaWng/w-d-xo.html
As far as I know the profiles are not build upon the amp models in the unit, but are profiles of actual amp.
Thank you for your message!
@@LeoGibsonGtr awesome thank you very much is a bit clearer now, if I upload one of their presets, I should then be able to get that down into a mooer unit. I'll just have to buy one now!
You are welcome!
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Thank you!
Brilliant video as always. I'd love to try out the MG 30.
Thank you, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
Marvellous review thanks
Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
Can you please recommend me the best among Boss GT 1 and NUX MG 30?
Hi, unfortunately I don't have a GT1, therefore I can not give you an advice from direct experience...I would say that it is a pretty old device...but I'm not sure if it sound better or worser than the MG30.
Sorry
Ciao Leo e complimenti per il video, ben realizzato come di consueto. Sto davvero pensando di passare dall’Ampero al Nux MG 30, non tanto per i suoni che sono belli in entrambe le pedaliere, quanto per il loop effetti e la possibilità di usare in parallelo le modulazioni e i ritardi.
Un abbraccio.
Grazie Giuseppe, sono contento che il video ti sia piaciuto....in effetti il loop di effetti ti da la possibilità di collegare la pedaliera al tuo ampli con il 4CM...anche a me è una feature che piace molto!
Grazie ancora!!!
Hi Leo. Could Hotone Ampero and Nux MG30 be used for bass guitar, and as the USB interface too?
Hi, yes they can
Hey Leo, nice video buddy! I had a question to ask... Can I use NEURAL DSP Plugins or BIAS FX2 using NUX MG30? Is that possible?
Hi, I'm not sure if I have properly understood your question, but you can not use plugin with the MG 30.
I love you videos.
Thank you James, your comment makes me happy!!!
plz can you tell me how does the mg 30 compare with the zoom g5n?
Hi, unfortunately I don't have the g5n so I can't tell from direct experience.
Thank you for your message!
plz can you tell me how does the mg 30 compare with the zoom g5n?
Hi, unfortunately I don't have the g5n so I can't tell from direct experience.
Thank you for your message!
For full understanding needed to add mooer profile of this real amps and add them to this comparison!
Now ampero closer to real amp (but to much high pres), then mg30( little to boomy) and then mooer.
But profile in mooer potentially make it winner.
Hi, yes, it would have been a nice addition, but I just wanted to stay with what you get out of the box
Thank you for your message!
Ampero one! In my opinion!
Hi Bruno, thank you for sharing your opinion!!!