West Coast MainLine Action 2003/2004 | Good Old Days
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- Various trains & various locations on the WCML filmed back in the good old days of 2003 and 2004. When Pendolino's were very new and fairly rare and only has 8 coaches, 87's/90's/86's/HST's and lets not forget 321's ruled the WCML routes from Euston. Voyagers had only recently been introduced on Cross Country routes. The voyager seen arriving at Coventry, was the first Voyager I'd had ever seen!!! Running almost an hour late to Bournemouth.
Notice how some of the stations has changed so much, Milton Keynes for example, there is no sign what so ever of platform 6, platform 2 was the southbound slow, line where as today its platform 1, and platform 1 was just a terminating bay!
London Midland did not excist at all, it was known as Silverlink Country and 350 desiro's hadn't even been invented... So 321's were used all the way from London to Birmingham :)
Some of the filming is pretty poor I must say, it was done by my dad and some of it by me when I was about 8. Also you can here us talking at a few points but I tried to cut those sections out.
THINGS TO REALLY LOOK OUT FOR:
0:17 = Pendolino only has 8 coaches (so do all the pendolinos in this video)
0:34 = Pantographs are sparking just because it was a frosty morning.
3:40 = Failed DVT being pulled by the 90
4:19 = Virgin class 47 waiting on Thunderbird duty at Rugby
8:02 = *LISTEN* my dad calls a silverlink a "SilverJunk" LOL :P
9:55 = First Voyager I had ever seen!
11:06 = That is the fastest I have ever seen a train go through Birmingham International, still to this day...
12:00 = Very strange DVT, facing backwards being pushed by 87
12:50 = Nice class 87 crossover in the platforms
13:36 = Yet another stopping Virgin, this is before the introduction of Clock Face timetable.
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Today all of the 321s are no longer working with silver link and have been replaced by the 350s
Although we're only talking 8 or 9 years ago, that's quite a bit of nostalgic footage there! I was a regular visitor to Rugby in this period, but only photographed the workings sadly. However i did film on the WCML from 1986-1997 and am gradually putting these movies on My Channel - quite a change in that period of course!
It's now 16 years 😲
Oh dear now this comment is 8 years old and 2003/04 was 17/16 years ago!
it's now been 9 years.... 2003 was 19 years ago and 2004 was 18... you can clearly see the camera quality rise from 360p in 2000 - 2003 to 8k in 2021/22!
Some good stuff there mate! The old Mark 3 sets are infinately more comfortable to travel on compared to pendos. Though showing my age a bit, I remember when they were all in 'Intercity' livery! Now they were good days!
It feels weird to see Milton Keynes Central have 5 platforms instead of 6, I only went there yesterday to trainspot!
Sweet you finally got to upload it! =-D Super vid m8! Some early Pendolino's and some great Loco-hauled action! Love it! =-D I'm guessing the reason that that 82 was the wrong way roud was cos it was on a stock move to Wembley and the 87 would take it back to Wembley at the end of its shift
Back to when the Pendolinos were like the Azumas!
And I bet in 20 years it'll be the same with the Azuma and whatever replaces them
This is when the pendolinos are starting to appear and starting to replace the loco hauled ac locos
Look how shiny those pendolinos are!
I remember seeing these at Euston when i used to go London with my dad. I remember getting free travel on Silverlink aswell, but I dont recall traveling on it :)
Nice video mate :)
As a regular commuter on the WCML it's funny seeing the Pendolinos brand new. I always forget just how old they are now although the interiors do look extremely 2002 haha. Great video!
The first pendolino went in service in 2002 and the first pendolino to be built was in September 2001
The class 321 is the best train ever 😊
Leonard Sachs would have been delighted! Well done you for filming at the age of 8! Yes, I noticed the sparks near the beginning of the clip; if you want to see some real spark effects, download CHOO CHOO!!Plane's video "Trains at Reading in the Snow" 2.1.18 especially from 24'48" onwards and to a certain extent from 20'31" when the clip focuses on the Waterloo-bound platforms...
I still sometimes miss the Class 86, 87, 90, Mark 3 Carriages and Driving Van Trailers. They were great Express Trains.
The good old days indeed. I was super little in 2004, but the camera quality back in 2004 is nostalgic.
AcelaRailfan2150 Nostalgic indeed for me too. But the 4:3 shaky pixelated quality video will not bed missed haha
MisterMoa for me it will but oh well XD
@ 11:00. A non-stop, at speed, through BHI!
ik this is like really late but this was the best time, you got literally all the stock that ran on the WCML (43s, 47s, 86s, 87s, 90s, 221s & 390s
It’s so strange to see my local station at 10:05 in a time before I was born, especially knowing I’ve probably sat on that exact Super Voyager too
I'd have to agree, those really were the good, old days!
No it wasn't. And this isn't even that long ago.
The good old days were before privatisation!
In BR days you could buy a ticket from any station to any other station wherever they were in Britain and pay for it even though the passenger may be hundreds of miles from where you are. Try that today! It was called a Silk arrangement, doubt any booking office has ever heard of it these days.
Jeez, 19 years ago this is what Raul was like!
Wow that livery on the 321 beauty
Great stuff 👍 I miss that old virgin trains red livery
I liked the zebra doors and the red front beautiful
I don't like voyagers, they have become too common. its nice to see a vid on the west coat ML in its golden age with 90s and 86s pulling 12 coah trains!:)
Now it looks like the class 800s Hitachi are becoming too common
@@jeremysadventures99 not a good sound, I much prefer voyagers.
@@ttvvideos2050 And I much prefer many other trains. The 390 and the older Eurostars has an awesome noise I think.
@@jeremysadventures99 the 373 is amazing
Heyday for me on the WCML was the br blue and executive eras. A true 24hr railway not a bus in sight either.....
Agree
It's so weird seeing pendolinos alongside old stock like HSTs and DVTs, especially with freight trains only having 1 lone class 90 on the front 😂😂
You can still see the freight trains with a single 90, I saw one go through Nuneaton around 5 months ago.
@HamishG199 oh wow, I've seen loads and never a single one
@@jake_the_train_guy It was a Freightliner, one, in the green heavy haul livery, I believe.
@@HamishG199 ah
The West Coast Mainline (London Euston, Birmingham, Wolverhampton etc) have been using brand new Pendelinos since like 2002 but yet the East Coast Mainline (Leeds, Sheffield, London King Cross) still use these trains but just rebranded.
This particular DVT at 11:42 is now an Artemis class 19, numbered 19001
Great video! A fave and like from me. Do you have any more footage from back then?
This is rare footage! Seeing 47s, DVT, 87s, 1 HST (sad face), Pendolinos and Super Voyager all in one video! This is all that Virgin ever had! Can I use this video for another video I am putting together on West Coast Mainline History? I will credit you!
they has class 158 too ;) Cross country
Didn't realise the early pendolinos were 8 cars! At least they were mostly lengthened to 11 cars (Cross Country take note!!)
Nice video. I was 9/10 years old then
I was 13
@@hi24x years flew right by
@@eastendewish we could go back to these days!
I remember when the Pendolinos had the zebra doors rather than the STUPID GREY DOORS that they had before they were bought by Avanti West Coast; at least the Voyagers still had them.
@soundseeker63 I do understand what you mean, I used to love riding up and down on the mk3's and mk2's with my head out. But at the end of the day, its the busiest intercity mainline in the UK and for it to only be limited to 110 wasn't very good or practical really. I must say I do enjoy travelling on pendolino's they're smooth and reliable: But they are really common and therefore kind of boring. But I think they are bloody good at the routes they do!
@59thrasher Very frosty morning thats why, ice on the overheads.
Looking back from 2023!?
8:27 - that is such a rare (probably non-existent) sight nowadays; seeing a freight on the fast platforms.
Why do the Virgin pendolino’s have 8 coaches?
And now, theres only two more days left of wcml virgin...
Avanti West Coast's livery is so bland compared to this.
Good old days indeed good old black and red virgin trains black & red
Virgin still running on the route, Silverlink replaced by London Midland replaced by London Northwestern.
Stephen Dines Although now It’s extended to Glasgow because in these days, There were no services to Glasgow Central yet.
London Midland was replaced by London Northwestern and West Midlands Railway
Not so fast! I know you posted this 7 months ago, but Virgin have until 29 April 2017, near when Crossrail opens, and South West Trains Franchise is due to end. In the diary!
Rugby basically only had 2 platforms in those days, one up one down.
And obviously, the mk2 and the mk3 coaches
Pendolino 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@rachaelmatt Well how do dmus get their electricity iv been on one but i don't know
RonnDon DMU stands for Diesel multiple unit. EMU stands for electric multiple unit. DEMU stands for diesel electric multiple unit. You're stupid.
Maybe you should account the fact that I posted this 6 years ago, so by now I should know what a DEMU or DMU is. Right? Fucking idiot..
Miss that livery...
Nice video :)
And the Class 90 as well...
Now we have rubbish Avanti west coast replacing the 221 with IET plastic which can’t tilt
I do miss the old virgin trains livery. And silver junk
Sometimes the MK3 DVTs 82/1s pulled MK2 coaches
The 86s, 87s and 90s did all the work but the DVTs can't bacause they are a Driving van trailer (DVT)
@ronnoc1k8 They get there electricity from there motor which is run by deisel.
I think I'd rather have a mk 3: More legroom and aircon that wasn't designed by accountants, rather than an extra 15 mph top speed.
The time when everything was boxy and British. Now every livery has changed to something bland in comparison. The only train that has remained the same in this montage is the Class 66.
Best cohort of virgin trains
Just realised the video is in 4:3 resolution...
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'good old days' the first clip is a pendo.... lol great video
Plus no Platform 6 at MKC.
Silver junk XD And a frieight on the fast when it passes? Did that used to happen??
Still happens now...
Wait nevermind
Wow
omg 86501😲
Pendolinos are mobile sewage pipes.
Why virgin got rid of the Mk3 sets in favor of pendos and voyagers mystifies me to this day. They were not too old, 87s still work abroad and 90s weren't even half through their working life. Sure pendos are noticeably quicker, but I do not find them relaxing to travel in. In a mk3 you could guarantee a good view out and an almost silent, cool and airy atmosphere while the loco screams ahead of you. Not so now. 350s I like though, quick, smooth and spacious even if they look a bit fugly.
i thought it was a DEMU
There nothing like a diesel electric Multiple unit
Omg I was 3/4 yr
Amazing quality🤦🏼♂️
it was the early 2000s 💀
@@nitrainspotter7622 did that prevent the camera from being held still like?😂
@@JBFlytography the shaking of the camera isn't. Effecting the quality and by what I can see the camera doesn't shake very much during the video
@@nitrainspotter7622 I also wrote that comment 2 years ago…
Virgin trains 1997-2012
LOL nope still going strong in 2019 cos Branson cried like a baby
finally ending in late 2019
P
Why do the Virgin pendolino’s have 8 coaches?