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Incredibly good to drive AND a great deal! (Alfa Romeo Giulia 2024 review)

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  • Detailed review of the Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce, including handling, powertrain, ride quality, price and features.
    The Alfa Romeo Giulia is a sporty and luxurious midsize sedan that competes with the BMW 3 Series, Audi A4, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Jaguar XE and Volvo S60.
    But unlike the BMW and Mercedes, the Alfa has increased in price only very gradually over the last few years, which now makes it very good value for money.
    Time codes:
    0:00 - Intro
    0:57 - Pricing vs rivals
    2:18 - Missing features
    2:47 - New technology
    3:24 - Quality
    3:45 - Sports seats
    4:13 - Materials
    4:30 - Driving position
    5:21 - Back seats
    6:18 - No wagon version
    6:45 - 480L boot space
    7:21 - Servicing and warranty
    7:57 - Comprehensive insurance
    8:14 - Fuel economy test
    8:34 - Driving experience
    9:25 - Turbo petrol engine
    9:55 - Limited slip differential
    10:12 - Automatic transmission
    11:00 - Engine and exhaust sound
    11:38 - Ride quality
    12:18 - Suspension
    13:05 - Development process
    13:45 - Steering
    14:50 - Rattles in our test car
    15:48 - Drive modes
    16:23 - Verdict
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  • @AndrasMenyo
    @AndrasMenyo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Bought a Giulia 6 months ago (pre facelift version) and I can honestly say this car is a dream to drive, while we are also able to use it as a family car (wife & one kid). Both the boot space and back seat space is sufficient for a family of three.
    What I love most about this car is that nothing takes away your attention from driving. No big fancy screens, nothing high tech, just old school buttons, two paddle shifters, and a responsive steering wheel. Given that I am in my thirties I almost jumped on the EV+tech craze but the driving experience is more important for me than checking numbers on a giant screen while driving.

    • @stebansb
      @stebansb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      any visits to the mechanic yet?

    • @josephmuglia4204
      @josephmuglia4204 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Totally agree with You, the car is amazing, fun to drive, no quality issues at all. I’ve had mine for about 8 months, no complaints, no issues.

    • @AndrasMenyo
      @AndrasMenyo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@stebansb I didn't have to go the mechanic since I bought the car. Unfortunately, Alfa Romeo has a bad reputation from the past and it is all too often still labeled as unreliable. I've done my research before buying the car, and the Guilia is on par with BMWs and Mercedes when it comes to reliability.

    • @bandagraph
      @bandagraph 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same - except i bought a high mileage 2017. I didn't intend to buy a 2017 Alfa TI Sport Q2 with 75k miles but it was almost the perfect spec, 1 owner, and extremely well taken care of. Multiple people have commented that they thought it was new. So far, i had to replace the OEM battery (common issue - it was on its third). I replaced with the giulia forum recommended upgrade battery. Fairly easy to self install.
      2017 is supposed to be the most unreliable year and i'm only 3k miles into my ownership but everything is perfect except for some weirdness with the window switches in driver's door panel. They all work individually but can be a bit touchy when more than one are used at a time. The transmission is great but i still wish it was available with a 6 speed manual as that would make it a perfect car.
      I was able to get a mopar maxcare warranty for 3 years and up to 115k miles for about $2k. The car plus the warranty was $18.5k (USD). That is a crazy good value.

    • @anthonydotb
      @anthonydotb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bandagraph Thes awesome. We picked up our 2020 Ti Sport Nero (Veloce) two years ago. It was used with low mileage and has given us zero issues. Occasionally the infotainment system acts up, but the infotainment in our Mazda's also did the same thing from time to time. The Giulia has to be the most underrated car on the market. It's a joy to drive. The 2.0 liter turbo is fast, and sounds pretty good IMO even with the stock exhaust. We went with the red leather seats. The sport suspension is amazing too. The downside is that tires are crazy expensive and hard to come by if you stick with the OE set of Pirelli's. The staggered stance looks great though with the wider wheels in the back. Ours is white, with yellow calipers, red interior, black edition, and we added a carbon fiber spoiler because the backend felt like it was missing something. It's a shame Alfa's past, and their association with Fiat and Chrysler seems to bring their value and desirability down. The car is tight with zero creaks or rattles. It's responsive, and has the best paddle shifters/transmission combo on any car that costs under 100k.

  • @vickihallman
    @vickihallman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Bought my first Alfa in Dec. 2023; Giulia Véloce ‘24. I’ve owned every luxury brand and this is my favorite ever. WOW. To drive it is to love it. And it’s GORGEOUS

  • @alexanderperry7821
    @alexanderperry7821 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Cross shopped my '23 Estrema (with adaptive dampers, carbon fiber bits) against the M340i and S5. Down on power (and the sound of a 6 cylinder) but I don't regret my decision one bit. The Alfa looks and drives so much better than even the in between performance models the Germans make.
    I also get questions about it every time I visit the gas station - I even got into a car show in a beach resort town inadvertently (was just trying to park, and they let me in as the car is so special and rare in North America). At the end of the day, I bought a car to drive it and to enjoy it, I didn't buy an app. And yes, you will look back at it every time you park it.

    • @iraklikh6619
      @iraklikh6619 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      💯💯💯💯💯

  • @chrisgray4239
    @chrisgray4239 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Some friends have had an Alfa Romeo for over 5 years and it has been trouble free motoring...they want a Tesla but haven't switched yet because they love the Alfa!!

    • @DBGE001
      @DBGE001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      OMG what is wrong with people wanting to go from a pure drivers car with a nice interior to an stripped out eco box Tesla with an interior that has the cosy feeling of a deep freezer.

  • @confrantzeskos
    @confrantzeskos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I bought an Alfa Giulia Veloce based on your previous review - the previous spec, in Alfa Red with tan leather seats. I had it de-mufflered by Exhaust World in North Melbourne. They have built a custom muffler for the Veloce. It now sounds magic - a lovely growl, no drone and it’s not garish or loud. It’s basically the perfect car. I love it. (And so does my wife).

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I am very glad to hear that.

    • @willknott9245
      @willknott9245 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Alfa should come in RED only! :) Are there other colours? No way, RED I say! Good choice!

  • @WazzaG076
    @WazzaG076 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Thank you for an excellent review. I have owned 3 Alfas in my lifetime, the last a 1984 Giulietta 2L. We ended up keeping it 24 years as we loved it so much and had a great local mechanic.
    No rust and no major mechanical issues; just those expected during that period of time.
    Sold only due to health issues but if I can ever overcome them this is the car I will buy. You have convinced me.

  • @loceee
    @loceee 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've owned a '17 Veloce for 3 years now. Go into the deal with your eyes open. Know that the dealer and support network in Aus (and most places) isn't great. You should find a specialist mechanic that loves working on them, and know that it will cost a little more to service (but nothing worse than other euros - and yearly intervals are nice). They have some quirks, but they are mostly endearing. You'll find excuses to hop in it. It's special. They deserve to have sold more, but it's kind of nice they are rare on the road at the same time! I liked it so much I picked up a Giuletta '15 QV to match up the set.

  • @alastairwatson3201
    @alastairwatson3201 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Wow! An actual factual, no BS review. Nearly unheard of these days. Thanks.

  • @thimble288
    @thimble288 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Steering feel is everything

  • @spartanconscience2693
    @spartanconscience2693 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    To stand out, buy an Alfa. To be ordinary, buy any other car.

    • @leonardolupini3484
      @leonardolupini3484 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I live in Johannesburg, and Alfas are quite rare, so my red Veloce really stands out here!!

    • @wesleycurtis4426
      @wesleycurtis4426 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      absolutely

    • @MartinvanderVeeke-wp6mo
      @MartinvanderVeeke-wp6mo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The first part I totally agree (there are some other nice brands as well, not a lot). Since 3 weeks I now own a Giulia Veloce Blu Misano, and it’s my fifth Alfa Romeo ( after a 33, a 147 and two Giulietta’s). The driving always stands out. And the Giulia makes you want to drive again and again.

  • @charleskyriakou1938
    @charleskyriakou1938 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I've had my 2017 Giulia Veloce since Feb 2020 and absolutely love it! It's such a thrill to drive and I quite often receive compliments for how it looks. I know the back seat seems tight but I've got an 8 and 11 year old and they sit back there without any complaints, so I think it's a decent family hauler. The only major thing I've had go wrong with it in 3+ years of ownership was the high pressure fuel pump failed. Funnily enough, it's made by Bosch in Germany 🙂
    Being a 2017 it also didn't come with Apple Carplay or Android Auto but that was easily rectified by ordering a self-install module from ENG-Custom in Italy. I now have wireless carplay and AA which I believe is a must-have these days, and renders the rest of the infotainment system useless anyway. I love the way the screen is seamlessly integrated into the dash though.
    I definitely agree that Alfa should have done a better job with the exhaust note but I took mine to a reputable exhaust shop and it's now got a beautiful note without being too loud.
    One thing I will correct you on though, is that I don't think Alfa removed the under thigh support adjustment, it just never had it. Mine is a 17 and you can't lift just the front base of the seat, only the rear. I agree with you however, that this is a significant omission that would have made the seating position so much more comfortable.
    Thanks for a fair and great review.

    • @jamesterakazis6624
      @jamesterakazis6624 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      YIA SOU PATRIDA !!
      ZHTO H ELLAS
      ZHTO H ALFA ROMEO

    • @chum84
      @chum84 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My MY21 Veloce does have under thigh adjustment (lifting of just the front seat base) and it definitely helps with the seating position.

    • @user-lg5hw7uu3x
      @user-lg5hw7uu3x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My late 2020 (facelifted) Veloce has power adjustment of both front and rear of the seats individually, in addition to the extendable seat cushion. As someone pushing 6'2" who is mostly legs, I love those features.

  • @psychpadre
    @psychpadre 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Great review as always, Tom. I own a 2016 Giulia sport, remapped to something like 235 kw. No problems - excellent car. My frustration - when looking to update - is that the new Veloces I'm looking at are advertised for $87+ k. Fortunately, these things drop in price dramatically within a couple of years (when the 2nd hand market is a little more sane, that is.)
    All said and done, the Giulia is the most enjoyable-to-drive car I have ever owned. By a huge margin..!
    To any would-be Giulia owners out there, I say: go for it, you'll not regret buying a Giulia

  • @aus_life
    @aus_life 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Wasn't even on my list of cars to consider, now it most definitely is one to test drive. Thanks for the good review, and you are right, this would be awesome as an estate.

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My pleasure!

  • @JoakimMiller67
    @JoakimMiller67 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Now I am gonna buy one.

  • @AshtonMason
    @AshtonMason 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love my 2022 MY Giulia. The best aspects are the gutsy engine, the light weight, the fast and engaging steering, the well-tuned suspension, the balanced rear-wheel-drive handling, the simple and well-designed interior, and the looks.
    It's quite an old-school car, from the focus on low weight and great driving dynamics to the functional but unfussy interior. I like that it has actual knobs for stuff like the air con and volume control, where other luxury cars seem to be turning into tablets on wheels. The flipside is that it won't blow anyone away with its dashboard tech or luxury finishes. If you're looking for luxury or the latest gizmos, look elsewhere. But if you want a brilliant, well-made driver's car where every little detail has been thought through with the driver in mind, the Alfa is hard to beat. It's an increasingly rare thing, and I don't expect to ever own a better car for the money.
    It gets a lot of positive attention when out and about -- usually from Alfa fans and people who know that it's good to drive. My previous car, which I thought was quite a looker, might as well have been invisible in comparison. I even had a random girl on the street tell me "nice car" when I was cleaning it, which to me is unheard of.

  • @majorgify
    @majorgify 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've got a model year 2022 Giulia Veloce and love it. I could have waited and got a car with the new headlights and digital dashboard but prefer the old headlights and digital/analogue dashboard.

  • @prakashnarismulu3332
    @prakashnarismulu3332 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Great review. Alfa is a niche product, that’s part of the appeal 😊

  • @MegaRetr
    @MegaRetr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tom, you are by far the most captivating car reviewer.

  • @KylenExpress
    @KylenExpress 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tom, you are by far the most captivating car reviewer.
    Even if I don't have a particular interest in the car being reviewed, I still somehow find myself watching it to the very end.
    Well done 👌

  • @dodelphi
    @dodelphi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Great review as always...
    I picked up my facelifted Giulia Veloce in September and absolutely love it. I went with the ALfa white and black sunroof and it looks gorgeous in my opinion. I finally upgraded from a Alfa 156 (V6 Busso) though I was reticent in moving to a 4 cylinder. However, I can honestly say the whole driving dynamics of the Giulia are superb and hence I happily live with my choice. My only regret is I miss the throaty 156 V6 exhaust note - but you can't have everything! I will need to look after this one for some time as Alfa is going all electric from 2025 onwards 🙁

    • @Brian-jv8iy
      @Brian-jv8iy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They will be selling plenty of ice cars after 2025. around 2025 they will put out new ICE models and they "might" be the last, but an Alfa has a lifespan of about 8-10 years on the market so They should sell them until 2035 at least. Then I think they might move to some different method of propulsion like EVs with gas generators

    • @varmastiko2908
      @varmastiko2908 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All-electric is only going to be temporary, if that. Car manufacturers are already in the know about this and ICE development is on-going. But even so, current tech might be the safe bet for some time as there is going to be all sorts of new development happening and there are always growing pains.

  • @russellchristison8425
    @russellchristison8425 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    High on my desirability list especially in red, a pity about no tan leather though. Great review

  • @PeterHausr
    @PeterHausr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the very informative and fair review. I live on the west coast of Canada and after owning two Honda S2000's for 11 years I was ready for a bit more comfort. In August I bought a new 2023 Giulia Speciale, 2.0L in Verde Montreal. Alfa Romeo only produced 15 cars of this Edition for the Canadian market. It is a car that handles extremely well und is still comfortable to ride in. I can see the progress over the last 53 years, when I switch to a drive in my 1970 Giulia Super 1600.

  • @maciejpocwiardowski1463
    @maciejpocwiardowski1463 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Giulia Competizione has adaptive suspension and seat adjustment.

  • @halfrousseau69
    @halfrousseau69 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nice review Tom - watched your last review of the AFG and was so moved by your observation that this is perhaps the last great european petrol car I had to buy one - insane value compared to the competition. And driving around Melbourne it feels truly special to own one in amidst the usual flotilla of Mercs and Beamers. Couple of further comments on items touched on here - 1. I do a lot of highway driving and get 5-6L using the A setting as opposed to leaving it in N - very little difference in terms of drive quality; 2. I also had a rattle in the cockpit, so an inherent problem perhaps - but cured in seconds with a neat rubber shim supplied by Stoprattle. It does feel a bit ridiculous to need a $2 bit of rubber to cure - but there may be some new Alfa owners this who could use the tip. Thanks Tom.

  • @mikekeen1679
    @mikekeen1679 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tom, you really should have donned your shorts/white ankle socks combo for this review. Testing the Alfa while dressed like an Austin Allegro driver would have been just perfect!

  • @user-lg5hw7uu3x
    @user-lg5hw7uu3x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice, balanced review. And it's amazing that the Giulia is basically still unrivalled in its class as an all-round driving machine almost 8 years after its launch. I can understand Alfa deleting some of the standard equipment to keep the price down, but given there is no more fully-specced model (like an Estrema or a Competizione) available in Australia to buy up to, it's a real shame that you can't at least specify them as options.
    For me, the Giulia Veloce peaked in Australia with the version released in late 2020 (like the Visconti green/tan interior example tested by Chasing Cars back in 2021), as it had the all-important interior, infotainment and driver assist upgrades but had a much larger choice of interior and exterior colours, was still fully loaded with equipment (eg adjustable dampers) and came with the classic Quadrifoglio-style 5 hole wheels. A couple of years ago I bought a late 2020 Veloce in Misano blue with tan interior and yellow calipers and fully optioned, and I wouldn't trade it for a newer one. While the new headlights do look cool, I prefer my analogue gauges and I love the tan interior. And they didn't even upgrade the reversing camera with this facelift, which was by far the car's weakest link in terms of tech, or add wireless Carplay, both of which I would appreciate. So I'll continue to reverse with care and plug my phone in with a cable while enjoying the sweetest handling, best looking car in the segment. Grazie, Alfa!

  • @givvia6782
    @givvia6782 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Its a shame they have removed adaptive dampers from the Veloce spec! The ride with the adaptive dampers is fantastic!

  • @roarpal6314
    @roarpal6314 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This car is perfect you just don’t scratch the surface

  • @A-r-o-h
    @A-r-o-h 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I see the new, facelifted model takes some styling cues from the 159/Brera. Great design to reference.

  • @danield.7359
    @danield.7359 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Giulia makes me rethink Alfa...

  • @colossus_g
    @colossus_g 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I am in the fortunate position of having one of these ... a 2020 version in Competizionne Red and Tan interior .... and a dual motor Polestar 2. I have owned the Giulia for over 2 years and the Polestar for 1 year. Sometimes I think the red car is better ... sometimes the black car.
    My heart will always favor the Red Alfa but my head can see the Black Polestar is actually quicker (except twisty mountain roads where the Giulia is quicker) and cheaper to run.
    Edit:
    IMO The 2017-2022 versions look organic. It looks like a wild animal stalking you from the front. This new one looks good, but loses that with the changed headlights.... sigh!

  • @giulimarconi1715
    @giulimarconi1715 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank You Marcchione! sei GRANDE! THank you ! GRAzie!

  • @malcolmscott4150
    @malcolmscott4150 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Lovely car and can hold its head above water around German competition- Alfa just forgot to do a coupe version 🏎😎

    • @colossus_g
      @colossus_g 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The sedan looks brilliant ... doesn't need a coupe. As Tom states, what would be great is a wagon.

    • @brey93
      @brey93 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a 2019 giulia and love it, but would trade it in for coupe if they made one!

  • @FLUFFY2U2
    @FLUFFY2U2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can we have a review on an Alfa Romero Quadrifoglio Guilia or Stelvio 2023

  • @robertofrattini3748
    @robertofrattini3748 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alfa Romeo Number #1

  • @spice3767
    @spice3767 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just bought a blue one.. get it next can’t wait …!!!!!

  • @lewisjohnson7260
    @lewisjohnson7260 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just bought a 330i M Sport, and this video has made me appreciate that even more 😃
    Alfa does look pretty though.

    • @user-lg5hw7uu3x
      @user-lg5hw7uu3x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rude! lol. But each to their own. What exactly makes you appreciate the 330i M Sport more?

  • @rodsalvador3608
    @rodsalvador3608 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What happened to the Seamaster! lol thanks for this review. Cross shopping a Giulia Veloce (massively good value around $30k USD in the US) and a G70 3.3

  • @xq233
    @xq233 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree the facelift quality is a problem. I have a 2024 model year and the dashboard creaks all the time. I think it's some new material they used and the way they tucked it in place. Also, one of the speakers of the Harman Kardon system makes funny noises from time to time. Also, not sure if it's the car or my phone but the Adroid Auto crashes frequently on this car. I have another Giulia which is 2021 model year and none of that is a problem with that car.

  • @milhouse147
    @milhouse147 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @4:43 Hey Tom, You need a new pair of jeans! ;D

  • @michaelschneider1365
    @michaelschneider1365 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i’m hoping for an early buyout of my mini countryman so maybe this is worth looking at. seems way safer and better then a mini. i’m paying 493 a month for a car with nothing in it.

  • @philipn5162
    @philipn5162 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heard there’s a turbo lag, similar to the old dual clutch Audi/VW engines? That sucks in traffic and dangerous joining busy roads

  • @TheCaesarChris
    @TheCaesarChris 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Type R or the Julia? Thanks for bringing this car into my consideration!

    • @karadagmert
      @karadagmert 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chris, ı am an owner of 2023 alfa Romeo Giulia Competizione and my previous car was a 2017 FK8 Type R. You can easily choose Giulia instead of Type R. I think the only disadvantage is fuel consumption is higher, when compared to Type R.

  • @EmperialHails
    @EmperialHails 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Unfortunately most of this cars rivals have butchered their interiors with all the “tech” and massive screens. I feel this is the time to get this car before the inevitable electric guilia

  • @Senninha1960
    @Senninha1960 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Install Race mode, perfect sports sedan.

  • @justice4g
    @justice4g 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'd buy an older Alfa but they seem to need a lot of maintenance

  • @dennisjohnstone4739
    @dennisjohnstone4739 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alpha's have mostly been great cars for handling and communicating what the suspension is doing. This one seems to be no exception and equipped with those low profile tyres it should turn in nicely and handle well. That Alpha have sorted the ride with those tyres is testament to their suspension engineering, however, and here's the the rub. To equip a car with low profile tyres and not provide spare wheel and tyre in our market with our poor quality B roads where even a modest pot hole can cause irreparable damage to these tyres is a put-off for me as a can of goop won't suffice to repair the damage these tyres suffer. Beautiful car but poor quality control and the tyre issue is a deal breaker for me!

    • @DBGE001
      @DBGE001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which brand does deliver a spare wheel in today's market?

  • @mharro88
    @mharro88 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there any update to the interior from the 2018 models?

    • @user-lg5hw7uu3x
      @user-lg5hw7uu3x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interior changes came in late 2020: much better infotainment and redesigned, much higher quality centre console and shift lever. No meaningful interior changes since then other than the new fully digital dash on this model.

  • @fatsharks
    @fatsharks 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It sounds like this is what the 3 Series used to be 😂 Seriously though, regardless of how good it may be, an Alfa is a really, really tough sell considering their reliability, subpar interior, dealer and support network etc.

    • @DBGE001
      @DBGE001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      spot on, BMW lost its drivers mojo

  • @BiggieBalls72
    @BiggieBalls72 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How come you park across the centreline for yr review?

  • @andrewhalket4129
    @andrewhalket4129 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My pre-facelift Estrema has adaptive dampers - and nice carbon in and out. And the quad wheels - do not like those diamond cut ones.
    And I prefer the look of the older headlight set up, though I guess the new ones are full matrix ones?

    • @user-lg5hw7uu3x
      @user-lg5hw7uu3x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep the new headlights are full matrix. I kinda like the look of them. Though maybe when the novelty wears off I'll prefer the older ones. I definitely agree with you re the diamond cut wheels - I LOVE the dark-finish Quadrifoglio-style 5 hole alloys previously fitted to the Veloce (and I have them on my late 2020 Veloce) and can't imagine what inspired Alfa to do away with them. Just change for change's sake I guess.

    • @andrewhalket4129
      @andrewhalket4129 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-lg5hw7uu3xthe wheels are the main reason I got the Estrema rather than the Veloce. The interior has a lot of the Quad stuff - carbon, leather dash, Alcantara/leather seats. All an upgrade on my previous 2018 Veloce interior. Added the sunroof (to give it a black lid) and a rear spoiler and it looks like a Quad-lite. In red.

  • @c.s2001
    @c.s2001 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would have preferred a station wagon version

  • @thomasschumacher5362
    @thomasschumacher5362 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where in Australia has there been 12% inflation?

  • @Shareezy
    @Shareezy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are those prices correct? That's about what I paid for my quad. Edit: NVM just realized this may be aussie dollars.

  • @Ben-bs4od
    @Ben-bs4od 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does one get comfortable with the electronic braking? Did you feel safe driving it without normal hydraulic brakes. There is an e-brake in case of emergency right, but how does one know years down the road if sensors fail, that e-brake will be different?

    • @ralfybaby
      @ralfybaby หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's fine. Planes are fly by wire I'm not worried

    • @Ben-bs4od
      @Ben-bs4od หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ralfybaby how so

  • @Senninha1960
    @Senninha1960 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where is this road?

  • @longbowdt
    @longbowdt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the Lexus IS 350 F-Sport with RWD come close in the handling department? The Giulia is quicker in acceleration, and with gear shift speeds.

    • @thomaskilts4463
      @thomaskilts4463 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Handling is better in the Alfa, and gear shifting is quicker because of the transmission. The giulia would be quicker off the line but the Lexus would catch up eventually

  • @_Murky_
    @_Murky_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    looks like a Holden

  • @stevec4110
    @stevec4110 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful car, just out of my price range unfortunately. If I were looking for a used vehicle, what MY years would you recommend?

    • @willknott9245
      @willknott9245 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think after second facelift - so from MY 2021 up.

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mid-2018 onward, though they did bring in some good colours around 2020/2021

    • @AndrasMenyo
      @AndrasMenyo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is always some risk with buying a used car. My recommendation would be to wait another year, save a bit and buy a new one. You won't regret it.

    • @RubraLIber
      @RubraLIber 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chasingcars 2016-2019 best ackermann's corner

    • @user-lg5hw7uu3x
      @user-lg5hw7uu3x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. Available in Australia from late 2020 (mine is October 2020 and it's the MY2021 version).@@willknott9245

  • @bryanmurphy3328
    @bryanmurphy3328 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    It's always good to learn new things. ALFA has a reputation for poor quality and resale value. The quality issue was discussed in the Video with noises and rattles. A quality system that works will not vary on the day of the week. I agree, it would be a great car to drive. With poor quality and resale, it would not be a good car to own.

    • @willknott9245
      @willknott9245 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You need to update your knowledge about "reputation", resale value is better than BMW and Merc... at least in Europe. About rattles, I have driven BMW 3 once, during traveling (2 weeks),
      it was brand new (well almost ~2500km) and there was a noise from the back, does it mean that all BMW 3 are bad cars? Of course no.

    • @joevelte4252
      @joevelte4252 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Not true at all. They have new multibillion dollar assembly lines now. You are talking about 20 years ago.

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      As I mentioned, this is the first Giulia we’ve had quality issues with, so I need to be fair and balanced.

    • @stephenmuller5098
      @stephenmuller5098 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Still driving my 83 Sud, no rust.

    • @yslee1401
      @yslee1401 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      One Australian auto blogger best describes buying the Giulia is as impulsive as wanting to sleep with the bosses hot secretary

  • @Joe-yo6yb
    @Joe-yo6yb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the overview of the Giulia
    I’m in the market for a new car and it’s come down to the Mercedes C Class 200 and the Giulia
    Do you know if the Giulia Veloce will be built in 2024 because I want a 24 build car… I’ve heard that Giulia is moving to EV from 2025. Thank you

  • @57wadey
    @57wadey 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tom... How would you compare the Giulia to the T model 3?

  • @jasonlewis2990
    @jasonlewis2990 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No adaptive dampers in this price bracket is a hard pass, my piece of sh*t WRX has adaptive dampers and is significantly cheaper and has heated rear seats. Real shame as I love these Giulia's. Too paired back for the price

    • @Daniel-dg3np
      @Daniel-dg3np 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Plenty of cars with adaptive dampers ride and handle worse than cars without. I'd rather a car with well tuned suspension than a car with poor suspension tune and 3 modes.

    • @jasonlewis2990
      @jasonlewis2990 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Daniel-dg3np you've missed the point. Name me a car that tuned suspension does every job and every typed of road perfectly sub of the price of this Guila.

    • @Daniel-dg3np
      @Daniel-dg3np 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @jasonlewis2990 is your point that only perfection is better than 3 suspension modes? In most cars with electronic dampers, there are three tunes. 1 - too soft. 2 - normal (often worse than non-electronic) 3 - too firm. How is that a useful feature? I've never owned a car that would be significantly improved by dampers modes. Even good aftermarket coilovers are perfectly comfortable if ride height is correct and valving is correct. Been in plenty that needed a better suspension tune but not damper modes.

    • @jasonlewis2990
      @jasonlewis2990 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Daniel-dg3np So what you are saying is that Adapative dampers is for cars with crap suspension ? So by that rationale you're saying the BMW M3 Wagon which starts at like 180k plus, has crap suspension thus needing the dampers it comes with to make it better ? BMW makes crap suspension ?

    • @gdawwg1125
      @gdawwg1125 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heated rear seats LOL

  • @user-jp2iv5rx5s
    @user-jp2iv5rx5s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    leased my 2nd one, much better than BMW etc

  • @xchazz86
    @xchazz86 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those headlights looks crosseyed.

  • @Porgeot
    @Porgeot 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it still brake by wire?

  • @Brian-jv8iy
    @Brian-jv8iy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it is a compact sedan.

  • @mixalis6168
    @mixalis6168 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you own a Guilia ?

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No I don't.

  • @peterb4620
    @peterb4620 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A very nice car. Perhaps an Audi S3 might be a better option.

  • @Kinvesu
    @Kinvesu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank god. I hate it when car companies wate time and resources on fugly a^^ wagons.

  • @Kevin-xz4jq
    @Kevin-xz4jq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you love repairs?! Spending time at the mechanic?!

    • @thomaskilts4463
      @thomaskilts4463 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Owner too and the only thing I’ve taken my car to the dealership is for oil change. Take mine to track and drive it hard everyday

  • @jamesterakazis6624
    @jamesterakazis6624 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BMW WHO ?

  • @daweigo6851
    @daweigo6851 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Rattles, I am out

    • @mharro88
      @mharro88 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What stuff performance cars don't have rattles?

  • @prathyushprasad7518
    @prathyushprasad7518 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm Tom Baker , this is chasing cars....💙💙...The most beautiful intro of Chasing Cars.....💚💚.....That's why I'm watching each and every episodes of Chasing Cars from India....🧡🤍💚....

  • @filofilo8127
    @filofilo8127 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great car while it's under warranty.

    • @fabiodigiorgio9650
      @fabiodigiorgio9650 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Disagree. Better than it’s competitors by a mile.

  • @gggggggg3542
    @gggggggg3542 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is this the one with rear doors and no rear seats??? Half decent engines, but just wait till the warranty expires, set your clock and just wait for it to go bang......... like 99.99 of Alfas, it won't take long.

    • @yslee1401
      @yslee1401 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You don’t have to wait till the warranty expires for this car to go belly up

    • @CooperKatten
      @CooperKatten 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Alfas are not for Toyota buyers. Polar opposite. You buy an Alfa based on love and a Toyota based on fear. I own both ha ha

    • @gggggggg3542
      @gggggggg3542 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CooperKatten Why design a 4 door, and not put seats in?? Either dumb or more likely typical Italian laziness - - - crap cars, anything Italian, dissolve in the rain or just fall apart

  • @Maggieismydog
    @Maggieismydog 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    20k less then BMW and 50% less reliable!

    • @thomaskilts4463
      @thomaskilts4463 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      20k less then a bmw and 150% MORE reliable then a bmw. I’ve owned two giulias and a 330. The bmw was a piece of shit

  • @NeutralGenericUser
    @NeutralGenericUser 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know this car has a cult following, but I just think it looks horrible. The refresh made it worse, but the fundamental issue I have with it is that it has the proportions of a FWD econobox. I hate how the rear doesn’t visually flare out. Every other car in the segment, especially the BMW 3 does it so much better.

    • @RubraLIber
      @RubraLIber 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      it must be for this reason that it is the sedan with the most awards won for line and design, especially in Germany awarded by the German public

    • @NeutralGenericUser
      @NeutralGenericUser 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@RubraLIber A lot of people enjoy the FWD econo box look tbh. Many "award winning" (whatever the hell that means in a subjective context) cars have those proportions.

    • @RubraLIber
      @RubraLIber 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NeutralGenericUserOf course beauty is subjective, but you know Italy is the country of the cult of beauty, perhaps this is why many people come from all over the world to study design and everything that has to do with art.
      Let's leave the art of econoboxes to Uncle Sam

    • @user-lg5hw7uu3x
      @user-lg5hw7uu3x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This is an odd viewpoint. If you don't like the lines, then that's fine - it's totally subjective, we all like what we like. But if you look at the Giulia it has pretty classic RWD proportions - look how far forward the front wheels are placed with a long gap back to the leading edge of the door. And it really does flare quite substantially at the back, accentuated by the staggered wheels. You can literally tell at a glance it's RWD.

  • @jupitersydney3555
    @jupitersydney3555 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes but have you ever seen one on the road ??nobody buys them … woeful quality and disastrous resale values

    • @thomaskilts4463
      @thomaskilts4463 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They don’t make a lot that’s why. Which makes it even better to own because you never see them. I love them and will continue to buy them for the rest of my life

  • @davidherman564
    @davidherman564 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unfortunately, very pedestrian looking.

    • @chasingcars
      @chasingcars  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Said no-one ever.

    • @spice3767
      @spice3767 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jealousy is weak…

  • @avaliacarros7739
    @avaliacarros7739 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 6:48 of the video is reported that car has 16.9 cubic feet or 480 liters of trunk or boot space. This is the typical FAKE GOURMET sedan, the one that comes ready to be swallowed by an SUV. In the ranking of decent sedans (TOP 500 SEDANS) with a trunk capacity above 500 liters or 17.6 cubic feet it does not enter.

  • @Undisputed_King
    @Undisputed_King 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Never liked Alfa Romeo. Still don't. They'll become obsolete soon.

    • @thomaskilts4463
      @thomaskilts4463 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Obviously you’ve never owned one so I don’t think you can really say anything

  • @Paravantos
    @Paravantos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    None of this review matters WHEN this vehicle stands in line at the Alfa Romeo dealership service with major defects at 7-10-25k miles with coolant leaks, oil leaks, major electrical issues, 40 k mile total bushings failure. Pretty much the same as a Maserati in terms of reliability. The word “reliability “ does not qualify in any shape for this brand . Period.

    • @thomaskilts4463
      @thomaskilts4463 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I have no idea where you’re getting this information, I’ve owned two now and I will never turn back. Haven’t had a single issue