Jaime Nôro I’d like to hear a like for like comparison - I have the Texas Heat in my Blues Jr and like what it does - but if the V Type in the Bassbreaker is the reason why it sounds so alive, I’m getting one.
Depends on the amp. In general, Eminence are darker speakers than Celestions. If you want to add clarity to your tone (some would say brighten), give the Celestion a shot. The Texas Heat is much darker (some would say sweeter) than the V-Type.
That Texas Heat Speaker completely took out the Marshalls characteristic sound. Perhaps you might like it as is, but I think it should've been made clearer throughout the video that the amp has been modded in a way that totally decharacterized as a classic Marshall sound.
@@dantrag2890 keep in mind he had a lot of demands to go into the making of his amp. Fender is just the manufacturer of the amp, they didnt necessarily design it. Eddie took what he knew from Peavey, and the rest of his experience that he developed on his own over to Fender. He had some extremely high demands for the amp.
Thanks for this comparison Shane. I've owned and gigged the Marshall (I am a marshall fan) and now own and gig the bb30r. The dsl was always lacking that special midrange place that a good marshall finds in the mix. Ultimately I had to sell it. The bassbreaker hits that spot and I believe fender were aiming for just that. It is the best bang for buck lightweight 1x12 combo out there. Lovely voxy/fender cleans and the perfect overdrive channel. I am hugely impressed.
I've been a Marshall guy for as long as I've been playing, but, to me, the Bassbreaker was sweet. I'm seriously considering one of these myself. One of the nicest sounding amps I've heard.
Both sound great in their own respects. Marshall more compressed, Fender more open in your face. Lovely tones on both! Nice to see Fender stepping up their gain game!
Hands down the Fender Bassbreaker. Perhaps the best sounding amp Fender has produced since Pre-CBS amps. As for sustain, both were excellent. But if one needs more than that, there are plenty of good pedals to choose from.
All the comments seem related to the darker sounding speaker swapped in the DSL.. Kind of a bummer.... without the stock speaker (which is the same for both amps, other than the ohm rating), it is kind of impossible to really compare them in any fair way. .and, indeed, the DSL sounds like it has an Eminence speaker in it :)... I enjoy all of your vids and the passion you put in to this. You are a great guitarist, as well :) Please put the vintage speaker back in the Marshall, and let them both rip if you get a chance. Best to you and your music.
Thanks for the shootout! I did my own comparison at my local shop over the weekend. Both amps side by side with the stock V speaker. The Marshall wins by far. The Fender sounded like there was a blanket over it, very bassy. The Marshall just ripped 👍
Exactly, Marshall sounds much better live than Fender !!! In the video they obviously can't set up the Marshall properly, it's not an equal comparison.
I've actually A/Bed them in the music store and I've heard them both used on stage. In the store, from a distance, the Bassbreaker has a really nice character (I didn't hear someone else playing the Marshall from a distance). When playing myself, I found the Marshall to have a much more musical 'feel'. A lot of that is probably the sustain that Shane is talking about - but the Marshall really seemed to react better to my playing and was more enjoyable to play overall. On stage, the Bassbreaker didn't really cut through the way the Marshall did - but that could have been the player's settings. For me, that musical feel the Marshall had is the kicker and I would purchase the Marshall.
Really good demo, they seem like amps that some would scratch their heads over wondering which to get. I preferred the chord work on the Bassbreaker. It sounded more ‘present’ to me, I thought the Marshall sounded a bit like it was in the next room. But I preferred the ‘fuller’ sound of the single note work on the Marshall. Different types of feedback, the Marshall seemed to swell into octaves above the root note, whereas the Fender took off in more directions. I think the wilder sound of the Fender won the day for me, there.
It *loves* the pedals as well. I never heard a Big Muff sound like a Muff *should* sound until I played one (Ram's Head, Violet clone) through the Bassbreaker. My jaw actually dropped a little.
Wow! There is quite some difference there! I love the DSL but it does not cut it against that Bassbreaker! The Bassbreaker has far more clarity and makes the DSL sound ´muddy´... I´m surprised!
Wow!!!! I didn’t think I would like the Bassbreaker compared to the DSL, but man for a Fender, the Bassbreaker can hold its own!!!!! I hear a bit brighter on the highs as well as a tad more clarity with the Fender when going between amps. Don’t get me wrong, I really love the Marshall tone, however compared to the Bassbreaker , the DSL sounds a bit cloudy. Thanks for the comparison!!! Cheers!!🎸🎸🎸🎸🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
Of note, the cloudiness comes from the fact he did a speaker swap - they normally both come with nice, tight-sounding Celestion V-Type speakers, but he put an Eminence Texas Heat in the Marshall. The Texas Heat does better at crunchy blues tones than tight lead-guitar tones, and that's affecting this video a lot as it's all about the lead tones.
I'm telling you, man, for straight up rock and blues, the Bassbreaker is the king of the hill atm. Put a high gain pedal in front of it like the 5150 OD, and it'll do metal like nobody's business. One thing, though, it needs some volume. You can't really play at bedroom volume with the 30R. It wants to open up and breathe. Nice shootout, Shane!
Fender sounded brighter at this end but, as you mentioned, that could've been from the fresh V12. Glad you approve of the old BB15, that's the one I got back in 2017 ...
I was really surprised. I hadn't heard a demo of these Bassbreakers that I thought was too good. Must be in getting them dialed in. This one sounded great. It had a little clearer sound to me. Probably cut better. The vid you made when you first got your Marshall was my all time fave, so I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt.
Marshall is still Marshall, and I think I prefer it over the Fender just for the sound of it. The Fender is still damn good, and will cut through the mix better than the Marshall. What about clean channel on the BassBreaker? As good as Fender usually is on clean?
@@smokepeddler I find the clean not as "glassy" on the BB models as a traditional Fender, however, I still find it sounds cleaning and better than the Marshall clean channel.
Nice Vid Shane! I Loved the Fender Bassbreaker 30R over the Marshall. I play a lot of Blues and Classic Rock and for me the Bassbreaker takes it! I get the BEST of both worlds with the 30R and at only 38lbs. opposed to 50lbs. a lot easier to carry around. Plus the Bassbreaker comes with the Footswitch and Cover included, Big Savings there also!! Please keep up the Good Work Mate, LOVE your Channel!! And as always your Performance!!! Have a Great Day! Cheers from the US!!
Nice comparison Shane. Both sounded great and I can understand why others might find the marshall sounding muddy compared to the fender. The fender definitely has more top end to it, but the marshall just has THAT sound. I don't think you could go wrong with either.
Different tones from different amps. Both tones are great, l like them both a lot. Maybe a Strat would have make the Marshall shine even more. I do think that it would be a fairer comparison, if the Marshall had his stock speaker. The V30 would give the Marshall the most of the high end the Fender has right now. The main problem for a comparison like this is the TH-cam compression - and personal preferences. My last word: I would take both. Both are great amps with great tones.
You were in the zone completely with that Jimmy riff! You should have let it roll. I was like yeah! Here it comes... Then, nothing.
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Played your audio through 3 different playback sources. In this shootout I give the Fender Bassbreaker the slight nod. It just has more punch and just damn good tight and defined punch. The Marshall is no slouch a great amp but in this comparison, Fender Rules!!
The Texas Heat in the Marshall seemed to darken things up a bit. It would be good top hear a comparison with original speakers in those amps. The Bassbreaker was surprisingly good though. Great review Shane.
Hey Shane, have you bought a Bassbreaker 30R yet 😂 I got mine today, I’ve owned a few amps, and heard many more, but the sound of this Fender just blew me away. Can’t see me ever changing it. Go on, you KNOW you want to👹
Great! I would love that Bassbreaker (yes, the Bassbreaker 15 is good - but if you buy one in Australia you're rolling the dice on the notorious problems that Shane has mentioned in the past, and that I've ranted about in the comments section before), I think it wins over the Marshall. Maybe it's the EL84s, maybe it's the speaker, maybe it's the cab - whatever. Great demo, Shane. I'd love to hear a comparison between the BB30, the DSL, and maybe the Artist Tweedtone on 1) Clean 2) Gain channel 3) Pedals. I realize that's asking a bit much, but even just a couple of those amps A/B'd with a few common OD/Fuzz, etc pedals would be great and I reckon other folks would get a lot out of it.
The Marshall is, well, Marshally.. Very dark and awesome with lots of low end grunt. But my god that Fender did funny things to my ears 👂, I like it A LOT!! sign me up, man!! It’s the first time ever I would chose a Fender amp over a Marshall!
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I preferred the focused midrange of the Marshall. The BB flubbed out in the bass frequencies but it may just be that it doesn't handle humbuckers as well.
I think the main difference is the speaker. The 40CR has a Celestion V-Type, the old C had a 70/80 if I remember it right. The DSL20 still has the 70/80, so maybe you'd like that one more now? EDIT: Also this video is not representative of what a DSL40CR sounds like, intheblues put an Eminence Texas Heat in there - which is a much darker-sounding speaker and kind of does a disservice to the drive sound of the amplifier.
That Marshall has served me well and sounds ballz to the wall great at any volume. Takes some dialing in but easy enough. My only gripe with the DSL40cr is how the channel switching (w/ Marshall 6 button pedal) has an useable delay in between. Cant punch in mid-riff without a drop/delay in sound. Fortunately, I only use mine as a pedal platform anyway and only change channels in between songs, if at all. Almost always lives in ch2-OD1 with lowish gain and I use a JHS Angry Charlie to evoke an old JCM800 for clean and dirty sound duty. My guitar volume pot does the rest. Very pleased. Thanks for a great demo!
Marshall for me. The Fender sounds really nice. But that little bit darker tone of the Marshall is just amazing. Also i Think it distorts better, keeps more Clarity in the notes, without starts getting messy...
Happy I got rid of my DSL40. Onitss own and in recording, this guy sounds amazing! but on a live setti,ng the scooped mids forces you to keep pushing volume up. It's a wall of sounds, but you can't really define it. I currently play a 22 Watt DRRI and it cuts so well I play live at a quarter of the volume.
Given that both have decent drive channels, for a channel switcher, the Fender may have the edge because it has separate tone controls for each channel.
Marshall 's Rectified sound is far cleaner with more sustained especially in the mid range. Fenders are notorious for mid range sound. Some players call tone. Which app you use. Is based on whether you want people to hear the notes you're picking individually. Or if you want some noise to smooth out your transitions.
DSL for mine. The Bassbreaker sounded better with higher gain. The Marshall sounded great everywhere. Might be the speaker. I really like the darker tone with the Texas Heat. Great for bright guitars like SGs and Strats. Well played Shane
Could tell you were really having fun playing at those volumes without annoying the neighbors LOL! I agree with others the Fender sounded great, BUT your Marshall doesn’t have the stock speaker. Makes me if gig-quality amps aren’t like really good cars...manufacturers set them up to perform well at the factory, but when you start adding after market “high performance parts” it doesn’t necessarily add value or the performance you thought it should, it just makes it different. 🤙🏻🤔🎸
The stock speaker for both of these amps is the Celestion V-Type, so.... looks like we need to ditch that Texas Heat! -- Or put it in the Bassbreaker and see what happens!
Speaker choice makes a HUGE difference here. The Texas Heat is a great speaker. I absolutely loved it in my old blues jr and DeVille. Big round bass response, smooth top end. But I wouldn’t (personally) use it with a Marshall circuit. And this video is a perfect example of how it smooths, flattens, and darkens the frequency response of the amp. Makes the Marshall sound lifeless in comparison in a studio environment. In a live setting (well aware that Shane gigs his Marshall) the Texas Heat probably sounds fine, probably makes the Marshall a little more bluesy.
I personally chose the Marshall DSL20 head (through my Traynor cab with Celestion Greenbacks) over the Bassbreaker series. I liked the Fenders more than the old DSL line, but this "new" line is far improved. Marshall still makes the best rock/blues distortion in the business in my humble opinion.
As someone who owns a DSL100HR that i love so much ive made it my main amp i have to say they both sound good. But i still would prefer my Marshall but would love a Fender Bassman for "that" tone. EDIT: Yeah i always use the classic channels clean or crunch for most stuff and the ultra channels for lead if im not going to just boost the classic channel for the lead. The clean setting is designed around a plexi, the crunch around a JCM800 and the OD1 is a hot rodded JCM800 and the OD2 is also a hot rodded type of JCM800 tone with a different mids feel. I prefer the Marshalls btw cause they work better in a full band setting. But the Fenders like Orange amps sounds "better" on their own but they all work just fine in any of those applications.
Can’t do the Ball Breaker. Marshall suits my tonal area of interest. Tighter. The sustain would have gone on for all long time with no degradation. The BB quickly fizzled out. Both great amps. Would like to play both in stereo. Had to choose one? Today: this time: the Marshall. Pretty damned good show mate.
I like the Fender, but....the things we like with it going full range by itself in a room aren’t the same as when the sound guy/enigneer has rolled off all the low end so it’s out of the way of the bass, drums, vocals, and everybody’s going hard. I think under those circumstances, the Marshall would shine. It seems to have more mids. Less to have to dial out. My 2 bits.
Exactly. Listen to old led zeppelin soundboard recordings. There is no bass in pages guitar tone to speak off especially on the latter tours like 77. You you get all upper mids and treble and its a very twangy thin brittle tone but then when you listen to audience tapes of the same gig his tone sounds way different . It's fuller and fatter and you can actually hear the bass and lower mids as the audience recording is picking up some of his straight amplifier tone coming off the stage
Probably the best sounding Fender amp gain I have heard, but still prefer the Marshall, which is why I have one. The stock V-Type seems to greatly benefit from some break in, and keep the presence very low, the treble somewhat low, bass and mids somewhere past noon to taste, and I think it sounds awesome. But, I am also more into hard rock and classic metal than blues. But, I would take the Marshall for that too lol.
Listening to this on one of my favorite pairs of headphones, and so far, what I've gathered is that either of these sound pretty darn SWEET... especially compared to my small solid state practice amp.... when our house is ready for a nice amp, these two are definitely on the top of the short list to check out in person.... any recommendation of other similar size/price units to look into?
That bass breaker reminds me of my old hot rod Deville, but that Deville was loud man. Almost unusable loud. Might a I recommend the WGS USA et65 speaker in either of these amps. Has more crackle at the top and tighter lows. You can also try the reaper that "flatter" sounding but smooth and punchy
I like em both. The marshall's ultra gain sounded fuzz-like almost. I write with alot of gainy metal rhythm sections and that was pretty intense, even for me.
They both sound pretty good to my ears . I'd go for the Fender because I haven't owned a Fender amp before . The only thing I'm not keen on is the Fenders' looks but that wouldn't put me off buying a used one later down the line 👍
Thanks Shane. On my system (quite loud listening with Rogers speakers not headphones) there seemed to be a bit more clarity in the Fender Bassbreaker, which I enjoyed, but as you said, they both sounded great. Next up the BB vs your Blues Deluxe.
A lot of folks don’t realize that the brightness of the Fender will cut through on a gig, and break out of the mix better. Who are you playing for, your bedroom or studio, or a live audience in a dense mix?
Gotta go with the DSL. The bass breaker did sound amazing , but I am a classic rock guy and the DSL hits those classic Marshall sounds so well for an amp of its price point.
I've done quite a few gigs with the Marshall DSL40CR, and the best thing you can do is drop a Celestion NEO Creamback in the amp- it just sounds great clean or dirty. The BB sounds very very good, but I don't dig the apparent bottomy emphasis- probably might be a bit mushy on stage with a band? Both top amps.
Both are very nice. I am partial to the placement of the higher mid hump the Fender has. Marshall tends to have their mid hump lower in the band and i like the pop of the Fender top. This is a thing that will likely define both of these brands until they cease to exist.
at the end of the day its down to personal preference....my choice is..................................................................................both, they both have there own unique sound
As always, for clean sounds ... Fender ... And for dirty and noisy sounds, punk, hard rock ... Marshall, although it also depends on how you equalize from the amp and the guitar, this is usually misleading, just testing it oneself. The downside, the Bassbreaker is made in Mexico and the DSL40C in Vietnam ... they may not be the highest gamma of their brands, but they deliver. I still haven't decided which one to buy, according to my style, he leans towards Marshall. I have a USA Strat
They both sounded fantastic. To my ears the Marshall seemed a little more hollow sounding if that makes sense. The Fender seemed a little more open. It's down to personal preference which you like best. 🎸👍🤘🎸🤘👍🎸🤘👍🎸🤘👍
I wish they'd been more clear about what the Bassbreaker line was with their marketing. IE a Marshall-modded Champ, Princeton, HR Deluxe, etc. They're really cool amps with just the absolute worst marketing effort behind them. I want to say Fender's original videos on the amps, and the only real marketing push, happened almost a year after the release of the amp line.
The bass breaker is trying to be the DSL, I personally think the Marshalls ultra gain channel is absolutely more fun to play. The bass breaker is cool but if you want a Marshall sound get a Marshall and it leaves no room for disappointment.
The Texas heat on that Marshall is the reason why it sounds so dark compared to the Fender.
Jaime Nôro I’d like to hear a like for like comparison - I have the Texas Heat in my Blues Jr and like what it does - but if the V Type in the Bassbreaker is the reason why it sounds so alive, I’m getting one.
Depends on the amp. In general, Eminence are darker speakers than Celestions. If you want to add clarity to your tone (some would say brighten), give the Celestion a shot. The Texas Heat is much darker (some would say sweeter) than the V-Type.
What is a Texas Heat?
@R Gerard I see! I do like Celestion speakers and I'm thinking about upgrading my Vox AC-30 speaker! To what? I'm not sure yet. Cheers.
@R Gerard Really! Might look into that sounds like a bargain. So there real Celesions in it?
That Texas Heat Speaker completely took out the Marshalls characteristic sound. Perhaps you might like it as is, but I think it should've been made clearer throughout the video that the amp has been modded in a way that totally decharacterized as a classic Marshall sound.
Spot on if he had a celestion vintage 30 in the marshall it would have been closer
I can't believe I'm about to say this but I like the gain channels better on the Fender.
Keep in mind, EVH is made by Fender.
@@dantrag2890 keep in mind he had a lot of demands to go into the making of his amp. Fender is just the manufacturer of the amp, they didnt necessarily design it. Eddie took what he knew from Peavey, and the rest of his experience that he developed on his own over to Fender.
He had some extremely high demands for the amp.
@@ericwilliams538 it's worth it, because I love mine.
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Thanks for this comparison Shane. I've owned and gigged the Marshall (I am a marshall fan) and now own and gig the bb30r. The dsl was always lacking that special midrange place that a good marshall finds in the mix. Ultimately I had to sell it. The bassbreaker hits that spot and I believe fender were aiming for just that. It is the best bang for buck lightweight 1x12 combo out there. Lovely voxy/fender cleans and the perfect overdrive channel. I am hugely impressed.
you still playing it? how does it sound at low volumes? Wish it had a master volume.
@@skylarcarlson7745 Ive got the bb30r. Epic amp. I use a JHS little black box amp in the fx loop. Perfect for taming it for late night practice
I've been a Marshall guy for as long as I've been playing, but, to me, the Bassbreaker was sweet. I'm seriously considering one of these myself. One of the nicest sounding amps I've heard.
Both sound great in their own respects. Marshall more compressed, Fender more open in your face. Lovely tones on both! Nice to see Fender stepping up their gain game!
Yes!!! This is the amp shootout ive been waiting for. Thanks Brutha. Fender had blown my mind with this amp
Hands down the Fender Bassbreaker. Perhaps the best sounding amp Fender has produced since Pre-CBS amps. As for sustain, both were excellent. But if one needs more than that, there are plenty of good pedals to choose from.
All the comments seem related to the darker sounding speaker swapped in the DSL.. Kind of a bummer.... without the stock speaker (which is the same for both amps, other than the ohm rating), it is kind of impossible to really compare them in any fair way. .and, indeed, the DSL sounds like it has an Eminence speaker in it :)... I enjoy all of your vids and the passion you put in to this. You are a great guitarist, as well :) Please put the vintage speaker back in the Marshall, and let them both rip if you get a chance. Best to you and your music.
I've got the DSL40c and love it. You got me intrigued on the Fender Bassbreaker! May have to get it now. Great video!
Thanks for the shootout! I did my own comparison at my local shop over the weekend. Both amps side by side with the stock V speaker. The Marshall wins by far. The Fender sounded like there was a blanket over it, very bassy. The Marshall just ripped 👍
Exactly, Marshall sounds much better live than Fender !!! In the video they obviously can't set up the Marshall properly, it's not an equal comparison.
I've actually A/Bed them in the music store and I've heard them both used on stage. In the store, from a distance, the Bassbreaker has a really nice character (I didn't hear someone else playing the Marshall from a distance). When playing myself, I found the Marshall to have a much more musical 'feel'. A lot of that is probably the sustain that Shane is talking about - but the Marshall really seemed to react better to my playing and was more enjoyable to play overall. On stage, the Bassbreaker didn't really cut through the way the Marshall did - but that could have been the player's settings. For me, that musical feel the Marshall had is the kicker and I would purchase the Marshall.
Marshalls and Fenders play very differently… Personally I prefer Fenders as they are more dynamic to me
That's the point about Marshall amps they cut throw the mix very well. They're made to be play on stage.
For me I love the sound of fender bass breaker.
Really good demo, they seem like amps that some would scratch their heads over wondering which to get. I preferred the chord work on the Bassbreaker. It sounded more ‘present’ to me, I thought the Marshall sounded a bit like it was in the next room. But I preferred the ‘fuller’ sound of the single note work on the Marshall. Different types of feedback, the Marshall seemed to swell into octaves above the root note, whereas the Fender took off in more directions. I think the wilder sound of the Fender won the day for me, there.
Both are the best! But seriously, the Fender had some clearer cut tones to my ears
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At high gain the Marshall seems smoother while the Fender is more gritty. Both great tones. I could go with either. Fun demo Shane!
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Fender Bassbreaker 30R just sounds better to my ears. It's more lively and has better presence.
It *loves* the pedals as well. I never heard a Big Muff sound like a Muff *should* sound until I played one (Ram's Head, Violet clone) through the Bassbreaker. My jaw actually dropped a little.
I know that the fender circuit
I own both. Both are great amps. In a studio situation variety is paramount.
That Fender sounds awesome and so full.
Fender smokes it, time for a trade in Shane 😬
Wow! There is quite some difference there! I love the DSL but it does not cut it against that Bassbreaker! The Bassbreaker has far more clarity and makes the DSL sound ´muddy´... I´m surprised!
Both a great, but different enough you’ll want to keep both. I prefer the Marshall and with the 6 button footswitch it’s a slam dunk.
Wow!!!! I didn’t think I would like the Bassbreaker compared to the DSL, but man for a Fender, the Bassbreaker can hold its own!!!!! I hear a bit brighter on the highs as well as a tad more clarity with the Fender when going between amps. Don’t get me wrong, I really love the Marshall tone, however compared to the Bassbreaker , the DSL sounds a bit cloudy. Thanks for the comparison!!! Cheers!!🎸🎸🎸🎸🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
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A different speaker would change that.
Of note, the cloudiness comes from the fact he did a speaker swap - they normally both come with nice, tight-sounding Celestion V-Type speakers, but he put an Eminence Texas Heat in the Marshall.
The Texas Heat does better at crunchy blues tones than tight lead-guitar tones, and that's affecting this video a lot as it's all about the lead tones.
I'm telling you, man, for straight up rock and blues, the Bassbreaker is the king of the hill atm. Put a high gain pedal in front of it like the 5150 OD, and it'll do metal like nobody's business. One thing, though, it needs some volume. You can't really play at bedroom volume with the 30R. It wants to open up and breathe. Nice shootout, Shane!
I like both. I think that the Fender has a more ""balanced" sound, but the Marshall sounds like it would sit in a live mix better.
I have a Marshall 40 combo! I would love to hear a mix of the two together! I hope you can make it happen! Great video!
Fender sounded brighter at this end but, as you mentioned, that could've been from the fresh V12.
Glad you approve of the old BB15, that's the one I got back in 2017 ...
I love my BB15!
I liked them both. Would be hard pressed to pick a favourite. To be honest, I was really surprised how well the Fender sounded.
I was really surprised. I hadn't heard a demo of these Bassbreakers that I thought was too good. Must be in getting them dialed in. This one sounded great. It had a little clearer sound to me. Probably cut better. The vid you made when you first got your Marshall was my all time fave, so I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt.
IMO - the Bassbreaker is one of the finest sounding amps I have heard (for the tone I am looking for). Looking at the 45.
Marshall is still Marshall, and I think I prefer it over the Fender just for the sound of it. The Fender is still damn good, and will cut through the mix better than the Marshall. What about clean channel on the BassBreaker? As good as Fender usually is on clean?
The clean channel on the Fender is not that great.
Does not sound like a Fender. The clean channel is very mid focused lacking bottom end.
@@smokepeddler I find the clean not as "glassy" on the BB models as a traditional Fender, however, I still find it sounds cleaning and better than the Marshall clean channel.
Well, that was pretty impressive ! I like them both but, the Fender is better to my ears . Thanks for the comparison and demo mate !
Nice Vid Shane! I Loved the Fender Bassbreaker 30R over the Marshall. I play a lot of Blues and Classic Rock and for me the Bassbreaker takes it! I get the BEST of both worlds with the 30R and at only 38lbs. opposed to 50lbs. a lot easier to carry around. Plus the Bassbreaker comes with the Footswitch and Cover included, Big Savings there also!! Please keep up the Good Work Mate, LOVE your Channel!! And as always your Performance!!! Have a Great Day! Cheers from the US!!
Nice comparison Shane. Both sounded great and I can understand why others might find the marshall sounding muddy compared to the fender. The fender definitely has more top end to it, but the marshall just has THAT sound. I don't think you could go wrong with either.
Different tones from different amps. Both tones are great, l like them both a lot. Maybe a Strat would have make the Marshall shine even more.
I do think that it would be a fairer comparison, if the Marshall had his stock speaker. The V30 would give the Marshall the most of the high end the Fender has right now.
The main problem for a comparison like this is the TH-cam compression - and personal preferences.
My last word: I would take both. Both are great amps with great tones.
You were in the zone completely with that Jimmy riff! You should have let it roll. I was like yeah! Here it comes... Then, nothing.
Played your audio through 3 different playback sources. In this shootout I give the Fender Bassbreaker the slight nod. It just has more punch and just damn good tight and defined punch. The Marshall is no slouch a great amp but in this comparison, Fender Rules!!
The Texas Heat in the Marshall seemed to darken things up a bit. It would be good top hear a comparison with original speakers in those amps. The Bassbreaker was surprisingly good though. Great review Shane.
Never thought I'd hear a Fender absolutely smoking a DSL but... hey... here we are.
The bassbreaker is an awesome amp.
Thinking the same thing
A dimmed fender can rip... Unfortunately it requires ear splitting volume... 🤣
I played them both at GC today and you're right. That Fender is a beast
I love Fender, Vox and Marshall. This particular comparison is poorly done.
Thanks for the comparison. Very useful. I prefer the Fender. A more open and multidimensional sound
Hey Shane, have you bought a Bassbreaker 30R yet 😂 I got mine today, I’ve owned a few amps, and heard many more, but the sound of this Fender just blew me away. Can’t see me ever changing it. Go on, you KNOW you want to👹
Wow.... the Fender by far. Great sounding amp.
Fender cuts a little more, Marshall is a little smoother. I reckon with some tweaking to the treble and presence they could sound pretty similar!
indeed.
i have to echo some of the same comments. The clarity in the Fender is crazy side by side. Its like going from cassette tape to newly recorded HD.
Great! I would love that Bassbreaker (yes, the Bassbreaker 15 is good - but if you buy one in Australia you're rolling the dice on the notorious problems that Shane has mentioned in the past, and that I've ranted about in the comments section before), I think it wins over the Marshall. Maybe it's the EL84s, maybe it's the speaker, maybe it's the cab - whatever.
Great demo, Shane. I'd love to hear a comparison between the BB30, the DSL, and maybe the Artist Tweedtone on 1) Clean 2) Gain channel 3) Pedals. I realize that's asking a bit much, but even just a couple of those amps A/B'd with a few common OD/Fuzz, etc pedals would be great and I reckon other folks would get a lot out of it.
The Marshall is, well, Marshally.. Very dark and awesome with lots of low end grunt. But my god that Fender did funny things to my ears 👂, I like it A LOT!! sign me up, man!! It’s the first time ever I would chose a Fender amp over a Marshall!
The only reason I haven't sold my bb15 combo is I'm waiting to see if Fender will make the BB30r in a head.
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I could bear it in my head. 🎸🎶
I’m going to have someone make me a head cabinet to put the chasis in
Gratefully, I own them both. Two of my favorite amps of ALL TIME! :)
I was just thinking yesterday that it would be interesting to see this very comparison!! Cool!!
I preferred the focused midrange of the Marshall. The BB flubbed out in the bass frequencies but it may just be that it doesn't handle humbuckers as well.
I have no idea what Marshall did with the DSL 40CR but I like the tone from the older DSL 40C better but that's just me.
I think the main difference is the speaker. The 40CR has a Celestion V-Type, the old C had a 70/80 if I remember it right. The DSL20 still has the 70/80, so maybe you'd like that one more now?
EDIT: Also this video is not representative of what a DSL40CR sounds like, intheblues put an Eminence Texas Heat in there - which is a much darker-sounding speaker and kind of does a disservice to the drive sound of the amplifier.
That Marshall has served me well and sounds ballz to the wall great at any volume. Takes some dialing in but easy enough. My only gripe with the DSL40cr is how the channel switching (w/ Marshall 6 button pedal) has an useable delay in between. Cant punch in mid-riff without a drop/delay in sound. Fortunately, I only use mine as a pedal platform anyway and only change channels in between songs, if at all. Almost always lives in ch2-OD1 with lowish gain and I use a JHS Angry Charlie to evoke an old JCM800 for clean and dirty sound duty. My guitar volume pot does the rest. Very pleased. Thanks for a great demo!
Marshall for me.
The Fender sounds really nice. But that little bit darker tone of the Marshall is just amazing. Also i Think it distorts better, keeps more Clarity in the notes, without starts getting messy...
Yeah, I think I liked where the Fender EQ sits, but there's extra "junky noise" sitting on top of the notes. Sorta loose and "messy" like you said.
Happy I got rid of my DSL40. Onitss own and in recording, this guy sounds amazing! but on a live setti,ng the scooped mids forces you to keep pushing volume up. It's a wall of sounds, but you can't really define it. I currently play a 22 Watt DRRI and it cuts so well I play live at a quarter of the volume.
I like both. I’d probably choose the Fender if i was buying.
You do outstanding demos, rock on!
Only us Aussies can use a term like
Ball-Tearer, not bat an eyelid and still deliver a great review.
Nice pickups & chops, bro! Looks like my room. I have a HotRod Deluxe & DSL40-CR. - Cheers! 👍🏻
The fender bass breaker is the only amp I have ever played at a guitar store where my wife commented about how good it sounds.
Lol...my wife leaves me at a guitar shop while she shops elsewhere for a couple hours lol.
I've got a DSL. The Fender smoked it, didn't expect that.
Given that both have decent drive channels, for a channel switcher, the Fender may have the edge because it has separate tone controls for each channel.
Marshall 's Rectified sound is far cleaner with more sustained especially in the mid range. Fenders are notorious for mid range sound. Some players call tone. Which app you use. Is based on whether you want people to hear the notes you're picking individually. Or if you want some noise to smooth out your transitions.
DSL for mine. The Bassbreaker sounded better with higher gain. The Marshall sounded great everywhere. Might be the speaker. I really like the darker tone with the Texas Heat. Great for bright guitars like SGs and Strats. Well played Shane
Could tell you were really having fun playing at those volumes without annoying the neighbors LOL! I agree with others the Fender sounded great, BUT your Marshall doesn’t have the stock speaker. Makes me if gig-quality amps aren’t like really good cars...manufacturers set them up to perform well at the factory, but when you start adding after market “high performance parts” it doesn’t necessarily add value or the performance you thought it should, it just makes it different. 🤙🏻🤔🎸
The stock speaker for both of these amps is the Celestion V-Type, so.... looks like we need to ditch that Texas Heat! -- Or put it in the Bassbreaker and see what happens!
Speaker choice makes a HUGE difference here. The Texas Heat is a great speaker. I absolutely loved it in my old blues jr and DeVille. Big round bass response, smooth top end. But I wouldn’t (personally) use it with a Marshall circuit. And this video is a perfect example of how it smooths, flattens, and darkens the frequency response of the amp. Makes the Marshall sound lifeless in comparison in a studio environment. In a live setting (well aware that Shane gigs his Marshall) the Texas Heat probably sounds fine, probably makes the Marshall a little more bluesy.
Nah mate that Fender eats the Marshall for breakfast! Still, like my VOX AC-30TB better but overall any will sound great they are all great amps!
I personally chose the Marshall DSL20 head (through my Traynor cab with Celestion Greenbacks) over the Bassbreaker series. I liked the Fenders more than the old DSL line, but this "new" line is far improved. Marshall still makes the best rock/blues distortion in the business in my humble opinion.
Be interesting to hear them out of the same cab, or even the fender into the eminence speaker in the Marshall combo.🎸🎸🎸
As someone who owns a DSL100HR that i love so much ive made it my main amp i have to say they both sound good. But i still would prefer my Marshall but would love a Fender Bassman for "that" tone. EDIT: Yeah i always use the classic channels clean or crunch for most stuff and the ultra channels for lead if im not going to just boost the classic channel for the lead. The clean setting is designed around a plexi, the crunch around a JCM800 and the OD1 is a hot rodded JCM800 and the OD2 is also a hot rodded type of JCM800 tone with a different mids feel. I prefer the Marshalls btw cause they work better in a full band setting. But the Fenders like Orange amps sounds "better" on their own but they all work just fine in any of those applications.
The number one name in amplifiers steps up and reminds everyone who the boss is. Fender destroys the Marshall in both dirty and clean settings.
Can’t do the Ball Breaker. Marshall suits my tonal area of interest. Tighter. The sustain would have gone on for all long time with no degradation. The BB quickly fizzled out. Both great amps. Would like to play both in stereo. Had to choose one? Today: this time: the Marshall. Pretty damned good show mate.
I like the Fender, but....the things we like with it going full range by itself in a room aren’t the same as when the sound guy/enigneer has rolled off all the low end so it’s out of the way of the bass, drums, vocals, and everybody’s going hard. I think under those circumstances, the Marshall would shine. It seems to have more mids. Less to have to dial out. My 2 bits.
Exactly. Listen to old led zeppelin soundboard recordings. There is no bass in pages guitar tone to speak off especially on the latter tours like 77. You you get all upper mids and treble and its a very twangy thin brittle tone but then when you listen to audience tapes of the same gig his tone sounds way different . It's fuller and fatter and you can actually hear the bass and lower mids as the audience recording is picking up some of his straight amplifier tone coming off the stage
Fender all day, I own the bass breaker 30r and I love it. A lot clearer. Also how did you hear someone knocking at over 100db of loundness..lol
The Fender sounds way more yum with a lot more bottom end, BUT I wonder what that does in a mix, would the pokey mids of the Marshall sit better?
The Fender has much better mids and would sit in a mix better!
Probably the best sounding Fender amp gain I have heard, but still prefer the Marshall, which is why I have one.
The stock V-Type seems to greatly benefit from some break in, and keep the presence very low, the treble somewhat low, bass and mids somewhere past noon to taste, and I think it sounds awesome. But, I am also more into hard rock and classic metal than blues. But, I would take the Marshall for that too lol.
Listening to this on one of my favorite pairs of headphones, and so far, what I've gathered is that either of these sound pretty darn SWEET... especially compared to my small solid state practice amp.... when our house is ready for a nice amp, these two are definitely on the top of the short list to check out in person.... any recommendation of other similar size/price units to look into?
I definitely could hear the Marshall sounds tighter on the higher gain.
I have been playing on marshalls all my life, but that fender amp grab my attention and maybe I'll buy one 😊
I put a Celestion G12H30 Anniversary in mine, and it seems like a 50 watt combo amp now! The Bassbreaker 30 is unreal! 🔥🔥🔥
That bass breaker reminds me of my old hot rod Deville, but that Deville was loud man. Almost unusable loud.
Might a I recommend the WGS USA et65 speaker in either of these amps. Has more crackle at the top and tighter lows. You can also try the reaper that "flatter" sounding but smooth and punchy
The Fender is amazing! I'm a Marshall fan but this Fender is definitely a worthwhile competitor, I actually preferred the sound of the Fender.
Marshall is clear and is more even across the range, Fender is more mid focused. I would still pick the Marshall over the Fender.
I like em both. The marshall's ultra gain sounded fuzz-like almost. I write with alot of gainy metal rhythm sections and that was pretty intense, even for me.
They both sound pretty good to my ears . I'd go for the Fender because I haven't owned a Fender amp before . The only thing I'm not keen on is the Fenders' looks but that wouldn't put me off buying a used one later down the line 👍
Thanks Shane. On my system (quite loud listening with Rogers speakers not headphones) there seemed to be a bit more clarity in the Fender Bassbreaker, which I enjoyed, but as you said, they both sounded great. Next up the BB vs your Blues Deluxe.
A lot of folks don’t realize that the brightness of the Fender will cut through on a gig, and break out of the mix better. Who are you playing for, your bedroom or studio, or a live audience in a dense mix?
I just got the DSL40CR. love it!!
Gotta go with the DSL. The bass breaker did sound amazing , but I am a classic rock guy and the DSL hits those classic Marshall sounds so well for an amp of its price point.
I liked the Fender tone a bit more, both are great but the Fender just sounded better to me.
Interesting mic placement. I'd like to hear this with the mics about 4-5 inches to the side.
I've done quite a few gigs with the Marshall DSL40CR, and the best thing you can do is drop a Celestion NEO Creamback in the amp- it just sounds great clean or dirty. The BB sounds very very good, but I don't dig the apparent bottomy emphasis- probably might be a bit mushy on stage with a band? Both top amps.
Both are very nice. I am partial to the placement of the higher mid hump the Fender has. Marshall tends to have their mid hump lower in the band and i like the pop of the Fender top. This is a thing that will likely define both of these brands until they cease to exist.
Now I want both!
I used to have the BB15 and traded it in for the DSL40cr. The BB30 sounds good but i absolutely love my Marshall. Thnx Shane!!
Damn you! I have a DSL40CR and love it. But damn I have to admit the fender sounds better 😢…….. But doesn’t look as cool! 🤘😆🤘
at the end of the day its down to personal preference....my choice is..................................................................................both, they both have there own unique sound
Fender soudnd "better" in this video. In a band mix will be better Marshall. It will cut through a mix better.
As always, for clean sounds ... Fender ... And for dirty and noisy sounds, punk, hard rock ... Marshall, although it also depends on how you equalize from the amp and the guitar, this is usually misleading, just testing it oneself. The downside, the Bassbreaker is made in Mexico and the DSL40C in Vietnam ... they may not be the highest gamma of their brands, but they deliver. I still haven't decided which one to buy, according to my style, he leans towards Marshall. I have a USA Strat
They both sounded fantastic. To my ears the Marshall seemed a little more hollow sounding if that makes sense. The Fender seemed a little more open. It's down to personal preference which you like best. 🎸👍🤘🎸🤘👍🎸🤘👍🎸🤘👍
I wish they'd been more clear about what the Bassbreaker line was with their marketing. IE a Marshall-modded Champ, Princeton, HR Deluxe, etc. They're really cool amps with just the absolute worst marketing effort behind them. I want to say Fender's original videos on the amps, and the only real marketing push, happened almost a year after the release of the amp line.
The bass breaker is trying to be the DSL, I personally think the Marshalls ultra gain channel is absolutely more fun to play. The bass breaker is cool but if you want a Marshall sound get a Marshall and it leaves no room for disappointment.