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Fun fact. This helmet might even be adopted by the Polish Armed Forces. They are seriously interested in the idea of a modern steel helmet. Their logic is that thanks to their longevity and good enough protection they are perfect for long term mobilization storage.
I talked with a supply officer from a not that well of country once about the topic of helmets, he said something along the lines of "Kevlar helmets expire but we can give everyone an old steel pot that has the same level of protection as when it was made 45 years ago. In a war you can have a lot of them but if your fancy expensive helmets expire or run out and you have no backup, bad situation to be in." As modern steel helmets were mass produced for ww1, turns out we might once again need to have a very basic helmet that protects from fragments, as seen in Ukraine artillery is king in conventional war, and so are drone dropped light munitions. Plus you can easily add a simple hearing protection mount, even if it is not active earpro, videos from volunteers in Ukraine talked about half the squad being deaf from firing RPGs or grenades going off nearby, being unable to communicate in battle.
Don't get me wrong, that was pretty sketchy, but it also pointed out that ricochets don't usually have enough energy to do much of anything. Now if that hit you in the eye.. then we'd have a major problem.
If a guy is willing and has the skill to dome you with a 44 mag your cooked, if a guy has resources to buy 9mm light ap your also probably still cooked
@@Oxide_does_his_best Away from war zones, threats wearing ballistic helmets are maybe even more rare. Without a more likely threat of shrapnel, I have not even invested in a helmet. If there are artillery shells, bombs and or grenades landing in my vicinity and not currently being a soldier, I am staying in my makeshift bunker and hiding. However, if I had more income than I do I would buy a helmet, perhaps this one.
@@Toboe12PL If it were me, I'd have something solid between my vitals and the target. Water barrel, wood wall, steel plate, anything really. Sure something probably won't happen, but a healthy amount of caution when using firearms never hurts.
mechanical engineer here, what many people forget to mention is that steel is more dense than ceramics, particles are closer together, hence the weight. The benefit to this is that steel can easily be improved by removing imperfections, voids and cracks in the particle and grain structure, making it very effective for low cost. You can further improve it with some cheap CRV like on most tools from china nowadays. These steel helmet are also already significantly thinner and lower profile than most of the other stuff ive seen, maybe in the future they can make some stealth athletic type stuff.
@@TexasSurplusPro they dropped it because that was not theirs design but earlier version of this one helmet, but then they went into disagreement with inventor anh he decided to produce and sell them by himself.
The Polish army is considering buying a lot of those new modern steel helmets for a big reserve army personel since the Kevlar helmets got some kind of shelf life to cut costs so Im glad U did this video I wanted to know their abilities
It's a really cool idea, getting you near the same protection but for much cheaper. It would have been nice to include a weight comparison with similar cut helmets. Also steel doesn't expire unlike aramid so no need to worry about degrading performance over time. I think I would consider this option if I was looking for a ballistic helmet.
@Auto5k generally speaking it is around the same weight as an equivalent protection aramid helmet, though a lot of that can be contributed to its rather minimalist padding. If you decide to go a bit heavier you can get rifle rated helmets without the bulk of aramid helmets with SLAAP plates while maintaining the same weight. Case in point being the C1300H poly-titanium helmet, which is a similar helmet but made of polyurea coated titanium alloy with a rather substantial padding layer backed by kevlar or ballistic nylon.
They literally do not list the helmet's weight anywhere on the product site (which is like 10 pages long). A hilarious attempt to obscure what is obviously a significantly overweight helmet
Found on Ade.pt it weighs about 2.85(L/XL) for the steel one in ACH configuration. A opscore Sentry (Inbetween of ACH and high cut) is about 2.11 (Using L/XL Size.) So about 3/4 lb increase in weight but noting that people slap on nods, therms, or whatever other special little thing that gets you going for protection on there, I'd say a half pound difference depending on what you do.
@@0xdeed771 I found it pretty quickly under "Additional Information" tab under the product image when looking at the high cut version: Size L/XL: 2.85 pounds, Size M: 2.65 pounds
This is definitely interesting. Old steel helmets had inconsistent performance due to inconsistent steel heat treat etc, more modern steel and treatments may be a more cost-effective way to mass produce helmets.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD my initial idea was far cruder. I was going to take an old military steel helmet and weld on some angular plates. I've got all the materials and tools to do it. They told me I'd get brain damage if I took a hit, I said that still sounds better than the alternative
if it was guys on reddit you can basically ignore them, fosscad reddit commenters told me my printed glock 20 would disassemble itself violently when fired because the print had some layer lines in it from microscopic differences in layer widths, 45 rounds of full power 10mm later and theres no signs of wear
Maybe it's time to look at composite. Hard steel exterior, light spall liner inner shell or padding that acts as a frag liner. Sure your bell still gets rung with any penetration but the hard shell reduces what gets through and the Kevlar beanie catches the rest
On their site they claim it stops 5.7 ball over 2000 fps. I'd think it has a decent chance at stopping reduced velocity steel core rounds. Is the VPAM 3 7.62x25 special threat steel core? I would think so.
Ok but this doesn't matter on the battlefield, what matters is weight, price of units, and protection from fragmentation. No one is going to be shooting at you with a handgun, and most rifle rounds would easily penetrate both helmets anyways, so again weight. Neck injurie's are a serious issue the army is currently dealing with at the moment which they are trying to mitigate due to all the added tech like night vision, batteries for said night vision, coms etc.. and a heavy steel helmet is going to make that issue worse. My recommendation for if you want to be taken seriously and test helmets closer to the army's baseline of what they are prioritizing, I would wear these helmets for extended periods like 12-19 mile marches. Then record how you feel while also showing the protection capabilities and weight of said helmet compared to Kevlar helmets. edit: look at Ukraine for example, a significant amount of injuries are from fragmentation either to unprotected heads or body parts. Now for law enforcement which is not my area of expertise, I could assume from their expected common sub caliber threats and generally closer quarters these steel helmets would be perfect. But again not my area of knowledge so im just assuming.
Bro just came back from the dead and dropped an absolute banger of a review on the helmet that I was looking at. Merry Christmas and I hope flight school is going well!
Holy cow that ricochet was terrifying. My dad told me thats how the hole in the arm of the jacket he gave me got there but i didnt believe him. I can see it now though lol
They said steel helmets were obsolete. But for protection against rifle threats with steel cores, a properly designed steel helmet with kevlar or UHMPWE liner is one of the few ways to get it without becoming cumbersome. Ulfbrichts (probably butchered the spelling) is one of the few companies making steel and titanium core helmets (The zenturio c1300h was one of their best selling models, rated to stop m855 and equivalent loads at 50 meters) with aramid inner liners and polymer coatings. They are about as heavy as Altyn helmets though, so you give some you get some.
I was about to make a comment that this helmet would benefit from a PE or kevlar liner, hopefully to stop penetrations, but also to give some additional energy absorption material.
Helmets like that wouldn't be commonly issued for exactly that reason; soldiers already carry a lot of weight, and the military isn't yet ready to break their necks *as well* as their backs
@@williamnixon3994 That is true, however cost was more the factor here as the Zenturio c1300h was and still is a premium grade helmet. I will not say that weight does not play a factor too however, as the regular grunt often has to carry a heck of a lot more than more specialized units that engage in more direct action. Even with all that, a steel helmet that weighs as much as a conventional kevlar or PE helmet whilst providing the same or even superior protection (At least at the lower end of muzzle energy) at a lower cost 285 is an absolute steal compared to the 1K+ retail price of things that provide similar protection, and should be considered for assignments like rear echelon troops, who often use older gear and stockpiles, which steel helmets obviously have a much longer shelf life than Kevlar or PE helmets.
Do you think coating these helmets with layers of "Nanovate" (from a company called Integran) would make them even more resistant? From what I've seen it really looks like some sci-fi nanotech. It works by essentially electrodepositing a coating of a certain metal onto any object, which results in a grain size of around 5 nanometer. Typical heat-treated steel has a grain size of around 4.5 microns. (1 micron = 1000 nanometers)
I've seen test of the old stahlhelm design that germany used in ww1 and ww2. They still hold up. Its still relavent. The trade off for any steel helm when compared to modern helm is weight.
I think medieval armor can do a comeback in some circumstances, if renaissance era armors were made of modern alloy steel (or titanium, if made in an alloy that's not too brittle), it would perform excellently against direct hits. The key is to make shapes that makes bullets want to ricochet away, renaissance armor was designed to take musket rounds and shrapnel. Everything has to be either round or conical and slanted, just like tank armor. Also each part can be made of different thickness steel to optimize weight (that's how they did it before). I'm sure it's possible to make an actually good body armor for those who assault frontally and need to be able to take rounds and still move forward
Absolutely, this could be the start of something really cool. We tried to upgrade some leftover helmets with miniaturized ablative armor panels before and had decent results. Funnily enough we took inspiration from Clone Wars ARC Programme lol
incredibly interesting helmet, i'll probably pick one up due to this vid tbh, i feel like that helmet is ever better att taking shrapnel hits as well in combat scenarios as well as managing debris. NVG mount on a steel helmet is sick to
Sounds to me like you just need that steel base wrapped with some kevlar and finished with a little poly. Let the kevlar dissipate some of that energy so the steel can do the work.
@motakai3898 What is your source? Because all I have seen is IIIA polyethylene helmets being tested. I cannot find testing of any rifle rated helmets, other than the data provided by the manufacturer.
Damn, the medical bill from that ricochet may have been cheaper if it hit your arm than the palma amoeba jacket sleeve it took out instead! XD Glad you're ok!
I wonder, as a civilian helmet, between this steel helmet and the popular Kevlar and bump helmets what would protect the best against physical attack as well. Deflecting a baseball bat or swung 2x4.
I can't speak for this helmet, but having done reenactment fighting in Australia for the last decade, the shape of the helmet doesn't lend itself to glancing a blow, you'd definitely feel it in your teeth/spine from the shape of the dome.
I was looking for an actual review on those modern steel helmets. I imagine, besides including a liner, that those helmets could be improved if it was made from a powder steel alloy
Economically these are a great option especially in cases of actual conflict, 1/3 the cost, and just as effective in war, the performace gap of 9mm and rifle rounds means they are just good enough. the chances of accurate shots from intermediate calibers when they are at a distance where they perform like a 44 magnum is so rare, and if the shots are accurate... thats probably .308 or 54r, you are done
The most important thing you have on a battlefield are your senses. Eyes and ears being the most important but smell also plays a part. This thing shuts off those senses to virtually zero. For example, you need to hear that faint whine of an incoming round and you have about half a second to react to it and hit the deck, not to mention communication with your squadmates. This thing might be good for breaching but for general use. I would say not so good.
You know... off topic but - in Poland there is a mention of making a tender for modern steel helmets for army. The reason being that composite / kevlar helmets are troublesome to store for mobilization. Steel helmet if stored correctly - can basically remain in storage for indefinite amount of time. Which makes it much cheaper to maintain as reserve than conventional modern helmets. And it's not a trivial difference, potentially makes such helmets 4 times less expensive (assuming per Polish standards that typical modern helmets have 10 year lifespan before they risk gradually losing ballistic properties). For steel helmet 40 years... is nothing. And we are talking couple hundred thousands of these things.
With the steel being so then I wonder if they could make an over shell that would plus up a traditional Kevlar helmet? Do you think you have enough material leftover to test this idea?
When the richochet brushes your sleeve, it's a sign from above: You're standing too damn close. Ricochets should be a one in a million thing, not a one in ten.
seeing the results from this test do you believe the best helmet would be some form of metallic or ceramic outer shell with a polyethylene/aramid interior as a similar defense structure to plate carriers?
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If you can get your hands on one I’d love to see a review of the Ukrainian ipi malyuk/vulcan-m assault rifle.
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Fun fact. This helmet might even be adopted by the Polish Armed Forces. They are seriously interested in the idea of a modern steel helmet. Their logic is that thanks to their longevity and good enough protection they are perfect for long term mobilization storage.
yep, some historian told me about it but he was quite irritating
@@pword1023 I see what you did there lol
I talked with a supply officer from a not that well of country once about the topic of helmets, he said something along the lines of "Kevlar helmets expire but we can give everyone an old steel pot that has the same level of protection as when it was made 45 years ago. In a war you can have a lot of them but if your fancy expensive helmets expire or run out and you have no backup, bad situation to be in."
As modern steel helmets were mass produced for ww1, turns out we might once again need to have a very basic helmet that protects from fragments, as seen in Ukraine artillery is king in conventional war, and so are drone dropped light munitions. Plus you can easily add a simple hearing protection mount, even if it is not active earpro, videos from volunteers in Ukraine talked about half the squad being deaf from firing RPGs or grenades going off nearby, being unable to communicate in battle.
this could be the play, especially with the attrition of gear and tons of artillery we’re seeing in conflicts today
Maybe the kolpak 20 wasn’t so bad
bro. After seeing that ricochet. You need a bench to do these remotely from now on. God just gave you another chance lol
This is like his 4th second chance
Don't get me wrong, that was pretty sketchy, but it also pointed out that ricochets don't usually have enough energy to do much of anything. Now if that hit you in the eye.. then we'd have a major problem.
@@triumphant39good thing he's wearing that face shield
@@triumphant39 Or the neck... or the balls
@@triumphant39 True that, but why risk a nut-shot?
He does exist! Merry Christmas!
I love your 5.7x28 videos!
Merry christmas too u, maybe one day U will test railgun rifles haha
Unironically could not look more like the Helldivers helmet. Thats deeply funny
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I was looking for this comment in case and was going to post it myself if there weren't any, thank you sir
No way, a helmet that not only protects you but returns fire for you!
Trickshotting the NCO by bouncing your round off the support gunners steel helmet 😵💫😵💫😵💫
@@herrsiemes7094 Smoke an RTO and the fragments bounce off the inside of his helmet also shredding the radio
I think we can all safely assume that steel core 9mm is more of a prevalent threat then 44 magnum.
Both are pretty uncommon
If a guy is willing and has the skill to dome you with a 44 mag your cooked, if a guy has resources to buy 9mm light ap your also probably still cooked
Correct me if I'm wrong, but dont intermediate cartridges like 5.56 and 7.62x39 generally perform similarly to .44 magnum after around 100-150 yards?
@@Oxide_does_his_best Unless they are not similar to fragments produced by artillery shells :\
@@Oxide_does_his_best Away from war zones, threats wearing ballistic helmets are maybe even more rare. Without a more likely threat of shrapnel, I have not even invested in a helmet. If there are artillery shells, bombs and or grenades landing in my vicinity and not currently being a soldier, I am staying in my makeshift bunker and hiding. However, if I had more income than I do I would buy a helmet, perhaps this one.
This man survives a potentially deadly ricochet, and then proceeds to take no additional safety precautions. Are you good, man?
hes wearing a helmet. What more do you want?
I’ve been hit by a lot of similar ricochets that I don’t show, they don’t have the energy to damage unless you get it in the eye
@@Oxide_does_his_best Alright, I'm not one to judge. Just be careful, I don't want to see good people get hurt.
@@Toboe12PL If it were me, I'd have something solid between my vitals and the target. Water barrel, wood wall, steel plate, anything really.
Sure something probably won't happen, but a healthy amount of caution when using firearms never hurts.
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Shoutout for using the Ready or not soundtrack. That shit bangs.
agreed
i knew i recognized it but didnt know what from lol
11 seconds ago is a Christmas mircale
mechanical engineer here, what many people forget to mention is that steel is more dense than ceramics, particles are closer together, hence the weight. The benefit to this is that steel can easily be improved by removing imperfections, voids and cracks in the particle and grain structure, making it very effective for low cost. You can further improve it with some cheap CRV like on most tools from china nowadays. These steel helmet are also already significantly thinner and lower profile than most of the other stuff ive seen, maybe in the future they can make some stealth athletic type stuff.
I remember ar500 armor making a steel helmet that got memory holded
The promo pics with an absolute unit of a lad were not flattering.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD he's just got built in trauma padding and backup blood
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD fat guys need helmets too
I don't get why they dropped those from the lineup. Lots of potential!
@@TexasSurplusPro they dropped it because that was not theirs design but earlier version of this one helmet, but then they went into disagreement with inventor anh he decided to produce and sell them by himself.
The Polish army is considering buying a lot of those new modern steel helmets for a big reserve army personel since the Kevlar helmets got some kind of shelf life to cut costs so Im glad U did this video I wanted to know their abilities
I bet that they'll probably will just make some kind of „modernized” type 67 helmets :/
@@Dromaeosaurs steel has no expiration date. Same as bwp-1 and lubawa
It's a really cool idea, getting you near the same protection but for much cheaper. It would have been nice to include a weight comparison with similar cut helmets. Also steel doesn't expire unlike aramid so no need to worry about degrading performance over time. I think I would consider this option if I was looking for a ballistic helmet.
@Auto5k generally speaking it is around the same weight as an equivalent protection aramid helmet, though a lot of that can be contributed to its rather minimalist padding. If you decide to go a bit heavier you can get rifle rated helmets without the bulk of aramid helmets with SLAAP plates while maintaining the same weight. Case in point being the C1300H poly-titanium helmet, which is a similar helmet but made of polyurea coated titanium alloy with a rather substantial padding layer backed by kevlar or ballistic nylon.
They literally do not list the helmet's weight anywhere on the product site (which is like 10 pages long). A hilarious attempt to obscure what is obviously a significantly overweight helmet
Spall coating however, does expire, and steel fragments in your skull are indeed not very good
Found on Ade.pt it weighs about 2.85(L/XL) for the steel one in ACH configuration. A opscore Sentry (Inbetween of ACH and high cut) is about 2.11 (Using L/XL Size.) So about 3/4 lb increase in weight but noting that people slap on nods, therms, or whatever other special little thing that gets you going for protection on there, I'd say a half pound difference depending on what you do.
@@0xdeed771 I found it pretty quickly under "Additional Information" tab under the product image when looking at the high cut version: Size L/XL: 2.85 pounds, Size M: 2.65 pounds
This is definitely interesting. Old steel helmets had inconsistent performance due to inconsistent steel heat treat etc, more modern steel and treatments may be a more cost-effective way to mass produce helmets.
I wanted to make something like this myself, but some guys from the guncad community called me *regarded*. Something tells me I was on the right path.
Were you thinking of making your own stamping dies?
Those guys are all bandwagoners. Don't listen to em. They say dumb shit pretty often.
Those same people would then say to buy an Opscore or HHV helmet.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD my initial idea was far cruder. I was going to take an old military steel helmet and weld on some angular plates. I've got all the materials and tools to do it. They told me I'd get brain damage if I took a hit, I said that still sounds better than the alternative
if it was guys on reddit you can basically ignore them, fosscad reddit commenters told me my printed glock 20 would disassemble itself violently when fired because the print had some layer lines in it from microscopic differences in layer widths, 45 rounds of full power 10mm later and theres no signs of wear
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Ready or Not sound track. Nice.
Vt, my unit used your vids to show how are armor works, my new commander wants the guys to understand there gear
Holy smokes! That 9mm bounce back was close!
The return to monke of helmets.
Maybe it's time to look at composite. Hard steel exterior, light spall liner inner shell or padding that acts as a frag liner.
Sure your bell still gets rung with any penetration but the hard shell reduces what gets through and the Kevlar beanie catches the rest
Old G.I. helmets are 2 piece design.
@shawndmiles6747 exactly
The altyn style helmets follow this philosophy just with a titanium shell instead of steel.
Wonder how the steel would handle Ss190 or M855 at 1,500 fps
Ask Jake to send you one
@@Oxide_does_his_bestI believe he was waiting on gen 2 :)
On their site they claim it stops 5.7 ball over 2000 fps. I'd think it has a decent chance at stopping reduced velocity steel core rounds. Is the VPAM 3 7.62x25 special threat steel core? I would think so.
@@PheonixOstapowichlikely that’s FMJ 5.7 not steel penetrator :) 7.62x25 is a bit fatter and slower than 5.7
i love the look of the face shield, reminds me of medieval visored armet plate helmets
christ, couldnt imagine what getting your bell rung while wearing one of those would feel like
probably feels better than being dead
Ok but this doesn't matter on the battlefield, what matters is weight, price of units, and protection from fragmentation. No one is going to be shooting at you with a handgun, and most rifle rounds would easily penetrate both helmets anyways, so again weight. Neck injurie's are a serious issue the army is currently dealing with at the moment which they are trying to mitigate due to all the added tech like night vision, batteries for said night vision, coms etc.. and a heavy steel helmet is going to make that issue worse. My recommendation for if you want to be taken seriously and test helmets closer to the army's baseline of what they are prioritizing, I would wear these helmets for extended periods like 12-19 mile marches. Then record how you feel while also showing the protection capabilities and weight of said helmet compared to Kevlar helmets.
edit: look at Ukraine for example, a significant amount of injuries are from fragmentation either to unprotected heads or body parts. Now for law enforcement which is not my area of expertise, I could assume from their expected common sub caliber threats and generally closer quarters these steel helmets would be perfect. But again not my area of knowledge so im just assuming.
Everybody is addicted to the ready or not soundtrack and I love it
The helmet looks really awesome, the face plate kinda reminds me of some Wolfenstein soldiers
For me it makes me think 'knights of the 21st century'
My brain saw helldivers immediately
That face armour is tingling my gamer senses.
Glad to see more helmet tests from you. Merry Christmas!
Thank you oxide for this Christmas gift.
Bro, I love the Ready or Not music. Thanks for the video!
Bro just came back from the dead and dropped an absolute banger of a review on the helmet that I was looking at.
Merry Christmas and I hope flight school is going well!
This was worth the wait, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and a Happy Nee Year Oxide.
Holy cow that ricochet was terrifying. My dad told me thats how the hole in the arm of the jacket he gave me got there but i didnt believe him. I can see it now though lol
Return of the goat.
Thanks dude, been waiting for this one!
I just realized he had the ready or not soundtrack on, I might be wrong tho but this is pretty sick
Loving the Ready Or Not soundtrack for the background audio.
Someone’s been playing ready or not, like the soundtrack
They said steel helmets were obsolete. But for protection against rifle threats with steel cores, a properly designed steel helmet with kevlar or UHMPWE liner is one of the few ways to get it without becoming cumbersome. Ulfbrichts (probably butchered the spelling) is one of the few companies making steel and titanium core helmets (The zenturio c1300h was one of their best selling models, rated to stop m855 and equivalent loads at 50 meters) with aramid inner liners and polymer coatings. They are about as heavy as Altyn helmets though, so you give some you get some.
I was about to make a comment that this helmet would benefit from a PE or kevlar liner, hopefully to stop penetrations, but also to give some additional energy absorption material.
Helmets like that wouldn't be commonly issued for exactly that reason; soldiers already carry a lot of weight, and the military isn't yet ready to break their necks *as well* as their backs
@@williamnixon3994 That is true, however cost was more the factor here as the Zenturio c1300h was and still is a premium grade helmet. I will not say that weight does not play a factor too however, as the regular grunt often has to carry a heck of a lot more than more specialized units that engage in more direct action.
Even with all that, a steel helmet that weighs as much as a conventional kevlar or PE helmet whilst providing the same or even superior protection (At least at the lower end of muzzle energy) at a lower cost 285 is an absolute steal compared to the 1K+ retail price of things that provide similar protection, and should be considered for assignments like rear echelon troops, who often use older gear and stockpiles, which steel helmets obviously have a much longer shelf life than Kevlar or PE helmets.
been waiting for you to upload!
that ricochet was absolutely incredible. stay safe
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Would love a variant of this that still had the openings on the sides for Headsets tbh.
the visor of that helmet needs to be fluted outward. as it stands its guiding all bullet fragmentation and debris into your upper chest.
Do you think coating these helmets with layers of "Nanovate" (from a company called Integran) would make them even more resistant? From what I've seen it really looks like some sci-fi nanotech. It works by essentially electrodepositing a coating of a certain metal onto any object, which results in a grain size of around 5 nanometer. Typical heat-treated steel has a grain size of around 4.5 microns. (1 micron = 1000 nanometers)
This and the HighCom RCH have been my two biggest wish-list items for somebody to test out. Thanks for the info 🙏
I've seen test of the old stahlhelm design that germany used in ww1 and ww2. They still hold up. Its still relavent. The trade off for any steel helm when compared to modern helm is weight.
I think medieval armor can do a comeback in some circumstances, if renaissance era armors were made of modern alloy steel (or titanium, if made in an alloy that's not too brittle), it would perform excellently against direct hits. The key is to make shapes that makes bullets want to ricochet away, renaissance armor was designed to take musket rounds and shrapnel. Everything has to be either round or conical and slanted, just like tank armor. Also each part can be made of different thickness steel to optimize weight (that's how they did it before). I'm sure it's possible to make an actually good body armor for those who assault frontally and need to be able to take rounds and still move forward
with the helmet being noticeably slimmer, it could be a good option to be up armored with replaceable ceramic or composite plates.
Absolutely, this could be the start of something really cool. We tried to upgrade some leftover helmets with miniaturized ablative armor panels before and had decent results. Funnily enough we took inspiration from Clone Wars ARC Programme lol
incredibly interesting helmet, i'll probably pick one up due to this vid tbh, i feel like that helmet is ever better att taking shrapnel hits as well in combat scenarios as well as managing debris. NVG mount on a steel helmet is sick to
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Ricochet nearly had your number XD
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Thank you for testing this, now they need to make a K6-3 clone.
Merry Christmas oxide wish you the best
Huh, had no idea steel helmets were still a thing 🤯
Very informative. Thanks!
This video is about to blow up.
The ready or not music is peak
What a swell Christmas gift
The return of the knight
Sounds to me like you just need that steel base wrapped with some kevlar and finished with a little poly. Let the kevlar dissipate some of that energy so the steel can do the work.
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Ive always been a fan of your helmet reviews, but found your channel again looking up WOCS and SIFT
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Please try a rifle rated helmet. Like Ops-Core RF1 or Highcom RCH.
Neither 'Rifle-Rated' helmets work. They catch the round alright if it's not steel Core, but have lethal backface deformation of more than 6 inches.
@motakai3898 What is your source? Because all I have seen is IIIA polyethylene helmets being tested. I cannot find testing of any rifle rated helmets, other than the data provided by the manufacturer.
Damn, the medical bill from that ricochet may have been cheaper if it hit your arm than the palma amoeba jacket sleeve it took out instead! XD Glad you're ok!
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ready or not music fitting
CEOs gonna be rocking these soon. 😆
Steel outer layer. Kevlar inner layer. Make if full face and provide head and neck support for the weight.
I can totally see Brandon Herrera doing a video over this in the future
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well... you learn something new every day...
Back to the old trench raider helmet design now just need to bring back the trench shotgun and 12 grenade bandolier.
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Nice Ready or Not music choise
I could see a hybrid of the two with spaced armor on the lower angles
I wonder, as a civilian helmet, between this steel helmet and the popular Kevlar and bump helmets what would protect the best against physical attack as well. Deflecting a baseball bat or swung 2x4.
I can't speak for this helmet, but having done reenactment fighting in Australia for the last decade, the shape of the helmet doesn't lend itself to glancing a blow, you'd definitely feel it in your teeth/spine from the shape of the dome.
I'd get this but have been looking at this helmet for years +. Blunt impact would be many based on your helmets padding more than anything
I was looking for an actual review on those modern steel helmets. I imagine, besides including a liner, that those helmets could be improved if it was made from a powder steel alloy
Now we need the Bastion and it's add-on rifle bullet armor
Economically these are a great option especially in cases of actual conflict, 1/3 the cost, and just as effective in war, the performace gap of 9mm and rifle rounds means they are just good enough. the chances of accurate shots from intermediate calibers when they are at a distance where they perform like a 44 magnum is so rare, and if the shots are accurate... thats probably .308 or 54r, you are done
We spreading managed democracy with this one
Been waiting for this one 🔥 Merry Christmas Oxide!
The most important thing you have on a battlefield are your senses. Eyes and ears being the most important but smell also plays a part. This thing shuts off those senses to virtually zero. For example, you need to hear that faint whine of an incoming round and you have about half a second to react to it and hit the deck, not to mention communication with your squadmates. This thing might be good for breaching but for general use. I would say not so good.
You know... off topic but - in Poland there is a mention of making a tender for modern steel helmets for army.
The reason being that composite / kevlar helmets are troublesome to store for mobilization. Steel helmet if stored correctly - can basically remain in storage for indefinite amount of time. Which makes it much cheaper to maintain as reserve than conventional modern helmets. And it's not a trivial difference, potentially makes such helmets 4 times less expensive (assuming per Polish standards that typical modern helmets have 10 year lifespan before they risk gradually losing ballistic properties). For steel helmet 40 years... is nothing. And we are talking couple hundred thousands of these things.
I almost bought one of these just for the hell of it a few months ago
I have two ar500’s versions of these I got back in 2020 been wondering how they might perform. Thanks for the upload.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!
With the steel being so then I wonder if they could make an over shell that would plus up a traditional Kevlar helmet? Do you think you have enough material leftover to test this idea?
We've come full circle to high medieval era.
When the richochet brushes your sleeve, it's a sign from above: You're standing too damn close. Ricochets should be a one in a million thing, not a one in ten.
Return of the Helm*
This looks like a Helldiver helmet prototype
seeing the results from this test do you believe the best helmet would be some form of metallic or ceramic outer shell with a polyethylene/aramid interior as a similar defense structure to plate carriers?