This is a very hard point to explain. Very well done. I own a cane corso and people are always talking to me without any real experiences. Sure it's a real dog with power but it doesn't require half as much leadership to keep in line as some horses I've known. People have completely lost the concept of "out of drive" obedience.
Hans get to the core of whats going on within the dog. imo no other trainer can or has ever done it to this level. his understanding of dogs is at a Masters level. imo thank you Sir. Much Respect
I have done a lot of obedience with my male cane corso so that i can control him . And yet he is super protective ! Sometimes i don't have to say a word , its like he can sense my energy and my emotions. I don t know if its a special trait of the breed but i couldn t ask for a better protector. 😊
Very good and useful information once again. Sometimes you must feel like you are banging your head against the wall when it comes to training the handler, rather then the dog though, lol! Yall do a great job on these vids, thanks.
It makes complete sense what you are saying about the dog looking to a strong leader to protect it. A news report did a show on whether random, individual people’s dogs would protect them if someone entered the home while the owner was there. 99% of the dogs were large, except for an older terrier-mix and his chihuahua sidekick. The older lady who owned them was a gentle, soft-spoken soul and you could tell accepted them for who they were in spirit and had had them for a long time. As soon as the pretender suddenly entered the home while the lady was sitting on the couch, she screamed and that terrier ran from the next room to beat the ban with friend Chico right behind him. He confronted the bad guy without hesitation, placed himself between his owner and the bad guy and jumped up on him, pushing him back toward the door, while the chihuahua relentlessly bit the back of his ankles. You could tell the terrier was the leader of this group. He even checked his mama, giving her that blocking stance Andy look to stay back, I’ve got this. He backed the guy right out the door and then went to check on mama. The big dogs that the people had gotten to protect all ran away terrified.
Cautious or aloof dog has a great potential for protection if the dog is trained correctly through defense drive. I am selling videos on that topic at alpinek9real.com Many protection based prey drive trainers do not understand this or in error outright reject it. As far as your dog goes I would have to see it on my own but I will say this. If your dog is not ready for the scenario and you are 'making' it to deal with something he is not ready to deal with, then you maybe making the situation worse. I am often using this example. If I lock you in a cage with a tiger - then are you going to stop being afraid of that tiger. Obviously not. The Boerboels are naturally suspicion and defensive protectors so that is where your extreme suspicion of your dog is coming from. I would need to know it means when you say that you "worked extensively on neutralization" means. What I would suggest is that you use my OUT of drive obedience (NO treats NO toys rewards) and teach that way you teach the dog to look up to you for a guidance. You will find the video on my alpinek9real . If that does not solve the problem then you need to use the system of 2 stresses. Imagine that you are afraid of heights (Stress A) Just imagine that you are terrified of heights, which fear is induced in you by the high elevation of the location, THAT YOU are TERRIFIED of heights is stress "A" and you are in the front yard of a cabin which is build in high . Now-> A tiger is coming at you and wants to kill you. That is a stress "B". Stress "B" (the killing tiger) most definitely overrides your current fear of heights (Stress A) which is a stress that you are trying to eliminate from your psyche. So as you are fighting a tiger you disregard/forget about heights fear (stress A) because the REAL and PRESENT DANGER at that moment is the tiger (stress B). Let's say that you are victorious and kill the tiger or get away from him, and thus eliminate stress B and all that WHILE you have had no fear of A (heights) or did not consider such fear at that moment. Then such "not considering" of stress "A" then extends into the future when we encounter heights after the stress "A" is not present because it was overridden by dealing with stress B(tiger). This - not considering the heights (stress "A") then STRONGLY carries into time when stress "B" (tiger) is not present anymore thus virtually curing the problem of "A" - fear of heights. I guess one may say what to be afraid of “A” (heights) now when i was not afraid of it when under stress “B”(the tiger) carried into rest of your life. So in the same way with your dog. When the dog is afraid of something like a person (Stress A) apply and demand performance in OUT of drive obedience like down command (Stress B) when you make the dog perform let say down command when under stress A then the stress A becomes irrelevant in that situation and since it is irrelevant in that situation that it becomes irrelevant in the rest of the dog's life. (This needs to be repeated several times.
I have no disagreement with Mr.Hans on this matter. Which means I am not pulling your legs here , but I feel there is blind spots in this kind of experiments. Many of these large dogs owners out there actually get the sheep in the wolf clothe type of dogs. They want the appearance but not the correct temperaments. Backyard breeders know soft needy big dogs sell, so they bred these soft weak dogs. Even without bad training, these dogs wouldn't be able to step up unless truly cornered. For dogs sold by Mr Hans, the true protectiveness instinct is always there. However confused the dog can become due to bad training, the dog instinct and smartness would still kick in in the end. Unable to send an obedient to a fault dog to engage from a distance is a different story to perps jump on the dogs and their owners scenario. Remember that it's impossible to out-train genetics and instincts. People with similar dogs to Mr. Hans' dogs wouldn't want to get into this silly TV experiments in the first place because when they get these type of dogs they should be responsible to train their dogs even at basic level, thus learn the potential of the dog. There is no doubt the dog would engage to fight in that scenario. It's just a waste of time to prove what's known. It would be both embarrassing on TV and a legal issue when the owners would fail to disengage the dogs from the fight, if dogs this strong are not fully trained!!! Mr.Hans' dogs would fight for real. Nobody want to welcome people into their house to then get their dogs labeled as dangerous. So to summarize: Even average dog owners would be able to tell that their good big protective dogs would fight off intruders. Those that participated in these experiment had subconsciously felt something wrong with their big weak dogs.
I have a question What if the dog resource guards the handle coz the handler is the source or food prays and play so the handle is a valuable resource to the dog.......
This video series will show you each step. I offer a discount and also Internet support if you buy the entire package at once. www.alpinek9real.com/personal-protection-dog-training
I have a white German shepherd, idk if there is much of a difference. Idk how you would feel doing a podcast on white shepherds and/or the difference between the colors if there is any. Thank you. I learn much from your podcasts ND really enjoy them.
My parents got one too.. I had never seen one before! Can't lie, I had a whole list of questions because I was convinced there was SOMETHING wrong with the dog😂 she's OK though.
I had a rottweiler x white German shepherd. There's no difference that I know, it's just white coloured coat which excludes what standard wants etc. Any I've seen all had straight backs, not sloping backs like show dogs, so they're probably healthier in some respects.
I have two white shepherds. Their pedigrees go back, with photos of all the sires on pedigree database without blanks for 40 generations, to the very first German shepherd Horand von Grafrath. They are exceptional dogs. No the color doesn’t matter, they are like all German shepherds. But remember too that while German shepherds have similar traits that they have been bred for, each gsd has his own specific temperament and character. Color plays no role. The whites have a color under the white, but it is genetically masked by the masking gene. Only two dogs with the masking gene can produce a white gsd. And they aren’t really white, they are lightest fawn.
I come from Germany and there are no white German shepherds here. You have a White Swiss Shepherd. This is a gentle dog with all the advantages of its German brother.
Back when real dog people operated on experience, any white GSD was put down at birth. They are genetically inferior. That's very unpopular in this day and age of feelings over facts though.
This is a very hard point to explain. Very well done. I own a cane corso and people are always talking to me without any real experiences. Sure it's a real dog with power but it doesn't require half as much leadership to keep in line as some horses I've known. People have completely lost the concept of "out of drive" obedience.
Well said!
Hans get to the core of whats going on within the dog. imo no other trainer can or has ever done it to this level. his understanding of dogs is at a Masters level. imo thank you Sir. Much Respect
Thank you for your kind words
Exploring each idea in this way based on experienced understanding of dog psychology and behavior makes these video sessions real gems.
Thank you so much for watching the videos. I’m glad to hear that it’s helping you.
In other words, you allow the dog a certain amount of leadership, and work accordingly, actually a phenomenal approach! Many would not get this!
Yes. But it seems you understand it which is great. And personal protection training I relinquish my leadership the moment I give the alert command.
I have done a lot of obedience with my male cane corso so that i can control him . And yet he is super protective ! Sometimes i don't have to say a word , its like he can sense my energy and my emotions. I don t know if its a special trait of the breed but i couldn t ask for a better protector. 😊
Thanks for sharing your story and thank you for watching and listening
Watching and listening with my 10 month old intact male Rottweiler in Australia
Thanks. Do not neuter him.
I am learning a lot from you. I will definitely get all of your dvds
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching them 😊
Very good and useful information once again. Sometimes you must feel like you are banging your head against the wall when it comes to training the handler, rather then the dog though, lol! Yall do a great job on these vids, thanks.
Oh the handlers are much more difficult to train then their handlers. Dogs are more clearheaded, and learn much faster.
very very interesting....... the world the dog see's
Yes it’s. Thank you for listening.
It makes complete sense what you are saying about the dog looking to a strong leader to protect it. A news report did a show on whether random, individual people’s dogs would protect them if someone entered the home while the owner was there. 99% of the dogs were large, except for an older terrier-mix and his chihuahua sidekick. The older lady who owned them was a gentle, soft-spoken soul and you could tell accepted them for who they were in spirit and had had them for a long time. As soon as the pretender suddenly entered the home while the lady was sitting on the couch, she screamed and that terrier ran from the next room to beat the ban with friend Chico right behind him. He confronted the bad guy without hesitation, placed himself between his owner and the bad guy and jumped up on him, pushing him back toward the door, while the chihuahua relentlessly bit the back of his ankles. You could tell the terrier was the leader of this group. He even checked his mama, giving her that blocking stance Andy look to stay back, I’ve got this. He backed the guy right out the door and then went to check on mama. The big dogs that the people had gotten to protect all ran away terrified.
Cautious or aloof dog has a great potential for protection if the dog is trained correctly through defense drive. I am selling videos on that topic at alpinek9real.com Many protection based prey drive trainers do not understand this or in error outright reject it. As far as your dog goes I would have to see it on my own but I will say this. If your dog is not ready for the scenario and you are 'making' it to deal with something he is not ready to deal with, then you maybe making the situation worse. I am often using this example. If I lock you in a cage with a tiger - then are you going to stop being afraid of that tiger. Obviously not. The Boerboels are naturally suspicion and defensive protectors so that is where your extreme suspicion of your dog is coming from. I would need to know it means when you say that you "worked extensively on neutralization" means. What I would suggest is that you use my OUT of drive obedience (NO treats NO toys rewards) and teach that way you teach the dog to look up to you for a guidance. You will find the video on my alpinek9real . If that does not solve the problem then you need to use the system of 2 stresses. Imagine that you are afraid of heights (Stress A) Just imagine that you are terrified of heights, which fear is induced in you by the high elevation of the location, THAT YOU are TERRIFIED of heights is stress "A" and you are in the front yard of a cabin which is build in high . Now-> A tiger is coming at you and wants to kill you. That is a stress "B". Stress "B" (the killing tiger) most definitely overrides your current fear of heights (Stress A) which is a stress that you are trying to eliminate from your psyche. So as you are fighting a tiger you disregard/forget about heights fear (stress A) because the REAL and PRESENT DANGER at that moment is the tiger (stress B). Let's say that you are victorious and kill the tiger or get away from him, and thus eliminate stress B and all that WHILE you have had no fear of A (heights) or did not consider such fear at that moment. Then such "not considering" of stress "A" then extends into the future when we encounter heights after the stress "A" is not present because it was overridden by dealing with stress B(tiger). This - not considering the heights (stress "A") then STRONGLY carries into time when stress "B" (tiger) is not present anymore thus virtually curing the problem of "A" - fear of heights. I guess one may say what to be afraid of “A” (heights) now when i was not afraid of it when under stress “B”(the tiger) carried into rest of your life. So in the same way with your dog. When the dog is afraid of something like a person (Stress A) apply and demand performance in OUT of drive obedience like down command (Stress B) when you make the dog perform let say down command when under stress A then the stress A becomes irrelevant in that situation and since it is irrelevant in that situation that it becomes irrelevant in the rest of the dog's life. (This needs to be repeated several times.
I have no disagreement with Mr.Hans on this matter. Which means I am not pulling your legs here , but I feel there is blind spots in this kind of experiments.
Many of these large dogs owners out there actually get the sheep in the wolf clothe type of dogs. They want the appearance but not the correct temperaments. Backyard breeders know soft needy big dogs sell, so they bred these soft weak dogs. Even without bad training, these dogs wouldn't be able to step up unless truly cornered.
For dogs sold by Mr Hans, the true protectiveness instinct is always there. However confused the dog can become due to bad training, the dog instinct and smartness would still kick in in the end. Unable to send an obedient to a fault dog to engage from a distance is a different story to perps jump on the dogs and their owners scenario. Remember that it's impossible to out-train genetics and instincts. People with similar dogs to Mr. Hans' dogs wouldn't want to get into this silly TV experiments in the first place because when they get these type of dogs they should be responsible to train their dogs even at basic level, thus learn the potential of the dog. There is no doubt the dog would engage to fight in that scenario. It's just a waste of time to prove what's known.
It would be both embarrassing on TV and a legal issue when the owners would fail to disengage the dogs from the fight, if dogs this strong are not fully trained!!! Mr.Hans' dogs would fight for real. Nobody want to welcome people into their house to then get their dogs labeled as dangerous.
So to summarize: Even average dog owners would be able to tell that their good big protective dogs would fight off intruders. Those that participated in these experiment had subconsciously felt something wrong with their big weak dogs.
I remember that report, it was pretty hilarious most of the dogs welcomed the burglar with open arms.
I have a question
What if the dog resource guards the handle coz the handler is the source or food prays and play so the handle is a valuable resource to the dog.......
My protection training is on based on that.
@@hans-alpinek9real very interesting stuff
I'd like to train my next dog like this, I've only done it through prey before.
This video series will show you each step. I offer a discount and also Internet support if you buy the entire package at once.
www.alpinek9real.com/personal-protection-dog-training
@@hans-alpinek9real If I had the finances man, I can't justify spending that ATM on training videos
My philosophy too
Good to hear
I have a white German shepherd, idk if there is much of a difference. Idk how you would feel doing a podcast on white shepherds and/or the difference between the colors if there is any. Thank you. I learn much from your podcasts ND really enjoy them.
My parents got one too.. I had never seen one before! Can't lie, I had a whole list of questions because I was convinced there was SOMETHING wrong with the dog😂 she's OK though.
I had a rottweiler x white German shepherd. There's no difference that I know, it's just white coloured coat which excludes what standard wants etc. Any I've seen all had straight backs, not sloping backs like show dogs, so they're probably healthier in some respects.
I have two white shepherds. Their pedigrees go back, with photos of all the sires on pedigree database without blanks for 40 generations, to the very first German shepherd Horand von Grafrath.
They are exceptional dogs. No the color doesn’t matter, they are like all German shepherds. But remember too that while German shepherds have similar traits that they have been bred for, each gsd has his own specific temperament and character. Color plays no role. The whites have a color under the white, but it is genetically masked by the masking gene. Only two dogs with the masking gene can produce a white gsd. And they aren’t really white, they are lightest fawn.
I come from Germany and there are no white German shepherds here. You have a White Swiss Shepherd. This is a gentle dog with all the advantages of its German brother.
Back when real dog people operated on experience, any white GSD was put down at birth. They are genetically inferior. That's very unpopular in this day and age of feelings over facts though.