Well, this has convinced me to get spacers. I live in a mountainous region and got my tires filled. Spacers would be the final piece of the puzzle! Thanks for taking the time to make this video, sir!
B3200 here. I live in Vermont and there isn't a piece of level ground within 20 miles. I use a couple big rocks (4 or 5 hundred lbs), carried low in the bucket for ballast.
After seeing this video I ordered the 1.5 spacers WOW what a difference. I have turf tires with about 50# of RV antifreeze and the combination definitely takes some of the pucker factor out of cutting the back side of my pond dam. Would recommend to most anyone.
Great video of showing a before and after test of the spacers. In the "Orange Tractor Forums" there's a good number of threads about the topic and a lot of speculation of whether the spacers are worth it, even going so much as to break out the slide rule and theorize about their effectiveness, but not much if any on actual results. This video solved that problem. As for additional torque on the bearings and axles, I'd much rather not have to deal with a roll over and long recovery if I lived than replacing parts on a machine. The machine is expendable, I'm not. I also think Kubota or any other good equipment manufacturer is going to add a little extra tolerance to their equipment than what's listed in the repair/service manuals.
When mowing, I've always felt the deck would touch down long before I tipped over. And there's no way the tractor is going to roll over the edge of the deck - that's a good 5 inches further out from the tires. Not good for the deck. But better than rolling over.
I felt the same way until I went over. It was a smaller Kubota but the mower deck to wheels spacing was roughly in the same proportion. The deck didn't slow the roll over one bit, in fact I was completely amazed at how quickly how fast the event unfolded. @@paullambert2668
I have 2 inch spacers on my BX25D-1 still have clearance between the anti scalping out riggers and the R4 tires. They work great on the steep bank I mow.
I have a kioti cs2220 which is basically the equivalent to your bx. Mine is about an inch wider than yours stock and tends to slide before it gets tippy. I have been looking at some 1” spacers which would bring me to about the same width you are now so this was helpful to see. One thing I felt with the kubotas more than the kioti was that you were sitting on the tractor vs more down in it. Yours also sits a little higher I believe so I can imagine this made a big difference. Love the videos!
I have a BX23S with 54 inch MMM and the maximum wheel spacers I can use are 1 1/4 inch, which combined with fluid filled rear tires definitely has made a difference. I have very hilly property and a drainage ditch much like yours. For the minimal cost + whatever added wear and tear, it is well worth it if preventing even just one tip over. Ultimately, each individual must figure out their own specific limitations given their equipment, property, experience, skill level, etc. I certainly do appreciate these videos and Tractor forums adding to my hands on knowledge and experiences, but wish all the so called “safety experts” didn’t feel the need to impose their opinions and limitations on everyone else.
@@michealabercrombie4271 Not sure of actual lug size but it's the same size as for a common jeep which was about $40 for a pair on amazon and fit perfectly.
About a year ago I specifically asked you about wheel spacers when using a mid mount mower. You said you were not sure if there’d be sufficient clearance and told me you would investigate. Thank you for making this video and answering my question! I’m going to buy the same spacers you bought!
OK my 1.5” wheel spacers are on my tractor and the difference is like night and day! No longer does my tractor feel tipsy. Kubota shouldn’t sell the BX23S with such a narrow track. I’ve been on the farm for 49 years and have learned how to not kill myself. But for a newbie the stock BX23S could be a real eye opener!
Dad installed one of those tilt gauges on his hood. I ask "what number is the limit ?", his reply was that he didn't know. So I handed him a felt pen and told him to keep it his shirt pocket to mark it. He didn't think it was funny.
I’m glad you finally bought some!! The 2” with the R4 tires on the right side is a little tight but, no problem. Like I’ve said before I put 1.5” on the front that helps a lot. You have to readjust your wheel stops so you don’t hit the deck and you loose turning radius but, the trade off is worth it to me. I did some research about the stress and couldn’t find any negative info. I was worried about the warranty on the tractor being brand new and the dealer told me there was no problem with me putting them on. Best $ I spent on my BX!!!!!!!!!
I'm surprised at putting spaces on the front wheels. The front wheels don't contribute to stability - they're on a pivot. That's why a machine with weight on the front is much less stable - if the rears are off the ground (or very light) you can tip the tractor over by turning tight on flat ground.
@@paullambert2668 the front won’t pivot but so far anyway then bottoms out against the frame. Bro-tec recommended them for the front so I bought them. I figured it wouldn’t hurt 😁
I have a JD 3038E. It's narrower and taller than my old 8n. When I'm bushhogging on my lower slopes, it just feels sketchy. Im sure its fine. But ive been thimking of spacers. Thanks for the video and recommendation. Ill be ordering these asap.
Thanks for illustrating to increase in stability. I did the 1" 1/2 spacer a couple of years ago. I figured it had to help. Just didn't know how much. I have never had my 2380 over that far. It does seem tippy.
I have a few areas on my back lawn that have a slop. I have a 1025r John Deere with 50 lb weights on the back wheels. I do get a bit nervous but to this date I've never rolled it. I think the weights are helping but it is still unnerving. Thanks for the post.
How's she goin'? Just checking out your channel and was very interested in this test you did. Mighty steep bank and the pucker factor would be pretty high I'd say!! LOL I was amazed at the difference the wheel spacers made. I have a Massey Ferguson sub-compact and I am forever backing off on grades as the tractor seems very tippy to me. Maybe I need a set of these spacers. I think your reasoning for going with the 1.5" was spot on. Gives a lot more stability and minimizes the stresses on the rear axle and components!! Great video and thanks for for posting. Take 'er easy!!
2 years ago I put a canopy on my bx and to me it was heavier than I thought it should be. My land is pretty much level except for the road ditches . The tractor became more unstable than I liked so I put on 1.5" wheel spacers and they made a huge difference!
I would never try that with my LX series tractor. I tipped my LX, so I went knee jerk reaction and loaded the tires and put 4" spacers on the back. Big difference! Now your tractor has a much lower center of gravity and is easier to upright if it does tip, so I may be more inclined to push the envelope. Anyway, thanks for the video.
I have a small Yanmar 19hp tractor 4x4. Scary on slight slopes. I first swapped the rear wheels and put them on the opposite side. Because of the wheel offset that alone made the rear track 6" wider and helped a lot. Since my property has many slopes it was still scary on the steeper ones. The next addition was 6" wheel spacers. The tires were now mostly outside of the fenders. This addition made the tractor feel much more comfortable on a slope. The last step was to add calcium fill on the tires. This lowered the center of gravity a lot.
Did you add 12" of track or 18" of track? I'm understanding that flipping the rims added 3" per side and then you added 6" wheel spacers. Is that two 6" spacers or two 3" spacers for 6" total? I ask because that sounds like a lot of leverage on the axles, but that sort of track width would be amazing for stability. Has your new setup given you any concern regarding drivetrain strain?
I just finished mowing a piece of property down by Trail BC, which is a bit of a slope. It’s ok when you’re going straight up or down, sometimes the need is to be on an angle . I have a 2305 JD, used a rear blade 5 foot wide low above the ground and it was sure thankful for this stability . Also had the loader & bucket on low down catch some stability at the front on the angled ground. Just because I have this property and never been mowed before. I think the rear blade would’ve been given the adequate stability.
I live in the Northeast and bought a Kubota B3030 where the rear wheels didn't have enough clearance to run tire chains in the winter. I put the Kubota OEM spacers on it and never looked back. The lack of wheel clearance for chains on my B3030 was one of only 2 negatives for the tractor in my opinion. The other negative was that it came with no 12-volt accessory plug/port. Even my $2,000 Husqvarna lawn tractor has one!
I have a bx with 2 inch spacers and seeing the angle you were on, my pucker factor was up. There were times on a lesser angle I had to drop the front end loader because a rear wheel was coming up. Yes I kept the bucket low. Every day, when I start I'm nervous on unlevel ground, as the day goes on I feel more comfortable, but I'm still really nervous on just a 10-15 degree grade. You were way beyond that. I know my nervousness is keeping me safe but Im sure I could do a lot more work if I'd get over it
The bucket/FEL lifts centre of gravity. With loader on it'll be less stable. Speed is also a problem. Something that's safe slow is not safe faster - drop a wheel into a hole or hit a bump and you can easily go over.
It’s amazing how 3” of extra wheel base can make such a difference. I have though about getting some spacers for my tractor but if I go any wider I won’t fit between some of my trees. Great information and great demonstration! Take care Lucas!
That's a very good point, especially on a SCUT: many people buy these BECAUSE they will (barely) fit through a standard 48" residential gate. Spacers would mess that up. I have one gate that is 6' wide, so I'm good even with 2" spacers.
I put 2” spacers on my BX23s, I don’t use mine to mow with. I use mine to get firewood, but I can say there’s less pucker factor now!! Thanks for the videos!!
The very reason I’m keeping my old Craftsman riding mower, mowing the ditch and around the culver. Definitely think my BX will benefit from spacers. It has been tippy when using loader.
I went with the 2" spacers. I have turf tires and the 60" MM mower. My slope is close to yours and I don't have weighted tires. It definitely feels safer. My slope is right up along the gravel concession road on both sides of my lane .Thanks for the video
If you think about what you said about going to far out makes sense as far as adding to much additional stress and putting internals in a bigger bind plus you gotta think about wheel seals too. Been thinking about wheel spacers for my L235 just to get a little more stability on slopes
🟢I put 4" BORA spacers on my 2022 JD 3046r Cab Tractor.! Front and Back and its Rock Solid.!!! 🟢 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ With no problems.!!! 👍 Glad i listened to the owner of BORA.!!!
The 54 deck is tighter. I bought the 1.4 inch spacers and the anti scalp wheels are close. Even had to turn around the pins on the scalp wheels to get the cotter pin away from the tires.
On my Gravely Pro Turn Z 48 before I ordered the 1.5in spacers ……I looked at the axile/transmission specs on the Pro turn 52 & 60in decks. The 52 & 60 all have wider tires but each had the same 3100 transmission as my 48. This lead me to believe that spacers would not be an issue or added stress on the axle. The 1.5in spacers are the exact width of my 48in deck and the added stability on my slopes is incredible . I also run the Sun F ATV tires for added traction, turf saver tires can’t handle slopes especially when you have mud or clay.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you should be able to swap your wheels from side to side. Doing so would increase track width of the rear. Fronts may be able to be done as well. At least that’s how I was taught to widen the track. I’ve never heard of wheel spacers on a tractor until this vid popped up in my feed.
Very helpful! I'd been thinking I should put spacers on my B2601; loader work on some of the irregular terrain we have here gets downright scary at times. Sounds like even relatively small spacers would improve matters considerably.
Eric, I'd highly recommend spacers on your B2601. I'm in the mountains of N PA and none of my 17 acres is anywhere near level! Mowing hay with my slightly bigger B2650 was pretty scarey at a couple of spots before the spacers. I bolted on 1-1/2" spacers a coupla years ago to make room for tire chains, but I've been amazed by how much sidehill stability has improved. The difference has been surprising, both with the original fully loaded ag tread rear tires and with the current unloaded R4 tread rears. My advice, fwiw: definitely install spacers!
If I had the budget I would go for dual wheels over spacers, as duals are wider. Also with "click" type duals a wheeel can be removed easily. I grew up on a hill country farm and the 80 hp tractor had duals, while the 45hp tractor had adjustable rims set to a 7'6" track over the factory 6" track.
I have a bx25 with a 60in. deck I put bro Tec 2in. spacers on it and it made a big difference in my little tractor. I live in southeast Ohio and our farm is all hill my tires are loaded and it helps.
If you think Kubotas are tippy you should try a Kioti. I owned a Kioti for two days. Slopes that I had run 2 or 3 Kubotas would have rolled that K35 in a heart beet. I took it back and we went round and round. I "calculated" the CG of the Kioti was at least 4-5 inches higher than my B2400. The B2400 was my third Kubota. It had 80 hrs on it when I bought it. It ended up with another problem. The .450 wear plate in the hyd motor wasn't there. Which meant it was pulling the pistons .450 further than it should have. It quit at 600 hrs.
Does an Older prior 2016 Bx2230 take the same spacers? Did you do spacers on the fronts also? Thanks. Found your channel to do fluid changes and it’s very helpful and informative. Great job.
Great video! I have the bx23s with the 60 inch mowing deck and two years ago, after research on some forums, i went with 2 inch. Made a huge difference. I can definitely say that extra space between the tires and deck wheels is a lot less than what you had there, but it hasn’t caused any issues. My pucker factor even with 2 inch spacers would be super high on that hill you demonstrated. I might not even attempt it lol. But now i am definitely going to get out on my farm on some of the slopes i mow and try what you did while off your tractor with testing tip over!
I apologize if you covered this and I missed it. You should consider using locktite when putting the spacers on the tractor. This is the practice when putting these on cars. It isn't uncommon for these to loosen up some without the locktite. Locktite red is what they normally use on something like this. Best of luck...
Hi there from Australia!, I love your videos. They have saved me heaps of time and kept me safe. I have a bx2670 i was wondering if you knew if they would be the same spacers for my tractor? I cant seem to find the exact dimensions or a comparison? Thanks !
Lean toward the hill use your personal ballast to change the center of gravity it wouldn't have much affect on a large tractor but on a small one it matters
Thank you, that was helpful. I've had my Kubota abota for about a year. I have a Hill with the same Slope , maybe a little more. I use the fwd drive to Keep It from Sliding in the Front. I think it helps I've been using the backhoe for counter balance. I like your videos keep up the good work. Your son's a helpful person Tell him to keep it up to hes doing good.
I live on a mountainside and run 2" spacers on my SCUT (and loaded tires). My dealer said they would not void my axle warranty. I've been happy with them.
Overall, I think spacers are a good thing I have the John Deere 1025R, which is about the same thing as yours… And I plan on getting a pair of spacers like yours because they were a few scenarios on the back part of my property with that rear tire came off the ground and I thought I was gonna tip the thing over… I’m too old to be handling up on stuff like that… that being said, you said your front tires were turned and you were still sliding along… I invested in about 240 pounds of suitcase weights to put on the front. Now my front tires are always gripping the ground I feel a lot safer with them on there.
I put 2” spaces on my BX. My hills are a lot steeper than yours. It makes a huge difference. I also have R14 tyres. I’m also going to put water in the wheels soon.
Seldom do I have my mower deck attached but almost always have the backhoe and front loader in operation. Very little of my acreage is level and on several occasions I found myself teetering on three wheels while carrying a load. I even have to swing the backhoe way over to one side for counterbalance in order to drive the tractor across some slopes. I will certainly look into spacers but I'll need to check my clearances to see whether 1.5 or 2 inch will work. I think I may also add wheel weights but will not fill my tires. I hear many bad things about filling tires and the problems it may cause later on, especially if you have a puncture or need to change a tire.
I was more concerned about bucket width since I don't have a mid mount mower. My b2601 is 48" stock and the bucket is 54". So I went with 2.5" spacers, and man, let me tell you what a difference it makes!
I can see how beneficial it is with you adding the spacers. How do you feel about fluid in the rear tires? Do you think that would be beneficial as well?
Great video. I have several steep areas that got my attention while riding along them. I considered spaers but haven't pulled the trigger. I don't know if the spacers will fit on my Massey GC 1710 sub-compact tractor. I think they're only made for Kubota tractors. Enjoyed a full-watch and will give those spacers another look-see. Have a fine week and hope you're not dealing with the same intense heat that we're getting here in NC. Triple digit heat. 👍🏽🤠 8/15/23
These spacers are a standard 5x4.5 bolt pattern and fit Jeeps as well as many other vehicles. I’m willing to bet they fit your Massey or you can find a bolt pattern that does. Amazon has a great return policy so if they don’t fit, just shop them back. 🤷🏼♂️
I run 4" spacers on my BX23s in the winter so my V Bar tire chains don't snag any of the hydraulic lines under the rear fenders. I take them off in the spring so I can equip my mower deck and I can tell you there is a drastic difference in the stability. Also, I believe you could "just" get away with 3" spacers and still run your mower deck. 4" is just too tight (only a quarter inch gap between the tire and the mount). The moment your deck nudged a tree or a post the A shaped anti scalp wheel mount would begin to pare your rear tire tread off it's carcass like an apple peeler. You could get away with 3" if you pay attention to the mower deck's lateral movement when it contacts trees and posts. You would have about an inch and a quarter of lateral movement before apple peeling would begin. I cannot stress this point enough! WHEN YOU RUNT SPACERS 3" OR LONGER YOU MUST TORQUE, RE-TORQUE, AND THEN CHECK AND RE-CHECK THE TORQUE ON YOUR WHEEL SPACERS MONTHLY. Something about steel bolts and aluminum parts under stress, those nuts come loose regularly. Thread locker helps but you still shouldn't trust it blindly. It only takes 15 min to pop the tires off and check the spacers for 90ft-lbs.
I have a BX with a 48 inch MMM, Im curious if the spacers will work with it. What size MMM is on yours? Great Video! Thanks for taking the time to share!!
So I don’t have a 48” deck for reference, but I will say that Amazon has a solid return policy…I would order a set and give it a shot. Worst that happens is you return them. 🤷🏼♂️👊
My property is very hilly, I use 4” spacers from Bro-Tec on my Kubota L225 and plan to add 2” Bora spacers to my new L2501 soon. I always load my tires and I always wear my seatbelt with the ROPS up.
Thanks for the info. I almost tipped my BX23s and since have been skittish about mowing or driving on hills. Do you also fill your tires with fluid? If so how did you do it? I would love a good DIY way to fill the tires.
I have filled tires, but my dealer took care of that for me. I believe Paul at Williamson Ridge Outdoors is releasing a video soon about DIY filling the tires you might keep an eye on his channel.
I have an old 3750 kabota the rear rims are two pieces / dish and rim.The dish can be turned in or out that's a 6" adjustment and the rim Is 8 more one way or 3" the other way . Each rear wheel has 4 width adjustments From stock to full width you can add 14" to each side .Key. Factor is keeping load on axel close to center line of tires my rears are 10" wider each side a 60" shredder/brush hog Edges cut centerline of my rears.. A little stunt driving n+s then e+w and don't even need weed beater ..
it didn't look like those were hub centric wheel spacers. I have spacers on my tractor and they do the job wonderfully, but especially if they are loaded tires you should be using hub centric spacers.
I can replace my wheel bearings but I can’t replace my spine. I’ll take my chances on wearing out the bearings. I’m starting off with some factory ones on the L3902 I’m getting and if I feel like I need more, I will upgrade.
It also looked like your rear rims can be swapped to for more width. The rear axle is alot more solid and beefy compared to the front, that being said a 6" wheel spacer and maxing the 3 point lift is asking for it and is definitely adding stress but alot of tractors have rims can swap around for wider or narrower stants too. The front axle is alot smaller than the rear and has the additional weight and stress of a loader and the engine on smaller tires but the rear I wouldn't think a 1"-2" spacer is doing much other than better stability.
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead Thanks. I bought the 2" ones and they fit my 2680 with turf tires just fine. Thinking of some 2" for the front also, have you tried them?
@@danu3247 I haven't. With the pivoting front axle, I'm just not sure they would help anything. I also have my hydraulic pressure turned up so I don't want to add more stress to the front axles...
Wheel spacers are a must. I've got 2" on my Yanmar with loaded tires and before I put them mowing with the offset fail mower I use was an E-Ride along the pond and creek on my place
Should the "Post Office" and "any minute" ever be used in the same sentence? Not sure why but Kubota does not recommend well spacers for a B260X equipped with a backhoe or mid-monut mower deck - I get the mower deck due to interference but I do wonder what the issue is with the backhoe - perhaps it is the weight of the backhoe.
I see the problem, a blind man could see it in a minute, you ain’t using a John Deere. Just pickin with ya, that’s a nice machine! Watched ya dig your water line with it and for its size it did a great job!
My BX has 2 inch spacers on the front and 3 inches on the back and I still wouldn’t want to mow that bank. We have R4 tires on ours and a 60” mower deck. Even with the 3 inch spacers the mower deck still technically fits, but the tires rub and sometimes even catch so most likely they be getting cut off. The front tires also rub and catch sometimes when turning at a sharp angle which if not careful will bend the mower deck and or lifting assemblies so I need to adjust the turn stops. Overall it has helped tremendously with mowing steep stuff, but I still don’t like pushing it too far.
@@christophergallagher531Even then its likely a back wheel is already off the ground and roll maybe unrecoverable. Everything I've read is all negative concerning wear and damage to hubs etc with no benefit to stability with front spacers
I had my tires filled and the maximum with spacers the dealership would go wider than 1". I have a b2601 and a 60" three point hitch mower. There are places I mow where no seatbelt is needed for grip on the seat. Going on 3rd year now.
When my engine is vibrating against my frame I know im too steep of an angle and back off. Its a non intentional feature of the 2017 bx23s. So I dont really need spacers the engine tells me when im too steep.
I bought my spacers from Bro-tec. Not cheap but, they are made just for the Tractor CNC machine. I had seen and read about casted and cheap spacers cracking. I felt better about spending a little more for them. Did not want a wheel to come off while I was on the side of the hill. Just saying
I was blown away at the angle you just mowed. I sincerely was nervous for you. Great information Lucas. Thanks 👍
Thanks! I appreciate you watching.
Spacers also magnify the effect of filled tires. It hangs that extra ~80lbs of tire weight a little further out and really plants the tractor nicely.
Ah, that is an excellent point I hadn’t thought of. 👊
Yea but what about the added stress on the axle? Would this void a warranty?
I think l it's 50lb with beet juice on the 2380.
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
@@bry8890take the spacers off if you have a failure before taking it to dealer 😂😂😂
Well, this has convinced me to get spacers. I live in a mountainous region and got my tires filled. Spacers would be the final piece of the puzzle! Thanks for taking the time to make this video, sir!
Thanks for watching! 👊
B3200 here. I live in Vermont and there isn't a piece of level ground within 20 miles. I use a couple big rocks (4 or 5 hundred lbs), carried low in the bucket for ballast.
After seeing this video I ordered the 1.5 spacers WOW what a difference. I have turf tires with about 50# of RV antifreeze and the combination definitely takes some of the pucker factor out of cutting the back side of my pond dam.
Would recommend to most anyone.
Right on! Glad they worked out well for you. 👍
@@jg6438 Yeah, I don't either. I actually do not even get on the part sloped toward the water. I just weedeat that.
Great video of showing a before and after test of the spacers. In the "Orange Tractor Forums" there's a good number of threads about the topic and a lot of speculation of whether the spacers are worth it, even going so much as to break out the slide rule and theorize about their effectiveness, but not much if any on actual results. This video solved that problem. As for additional torque on the bearings and axles, I'd much rather not have to deal with a roll over and long recovery if I lived than replacing parts on a machine. The machine is expendable, I'm not. I also think Kubota or any other good equipment manufacturer is going to add a little extra tolerance to their equipment than what's listed in the repair/service manuals.
Thank you! This satisfied me that they are worth it. I was genuinely surprised at how effective they were.
When mowing, I've always felt the deck would touch down long before I tipped over. And there's no way the tractor is going to roll over the edge of the deck - that's a good 5 inches further out from the tires. Not good for the deck. But better than rolling over.
I felt the same way until I went over. It was a smaller Kubota but the mower deck to wheels spacing was roughly in the same proportion. The deck didn't slow the roll over one bit, in fact I was completely amazed at how quickly how fast the event unfolded. @@paullambert2668
I have 2 inch spacers on my BX25D-1 still have clearance between the anti scalping out riggers and the R4 tires. They work great on the steep bank I mow.
I put 2” spacers on my BX2380 and it made an incredible difference.
Thanks for the info I have the same issue with hills on my property and just bought a 1025r. It looks like a solution and not to expensive from bora
Glad you took the plunge on the wheel spacers. I move a LOT of dirt around my property, and I went with the 2" spacers. Changed my life. 🤣🤣
Right on!
That was great! Thanks Lucas!
I have a kioti cs2220 which is basically the equivalent to your bx. Mine is about an inch wider than yours stock and tends to slide before it gets tippy. I have been looking at some 1” spacers which would bring me to about the same width you are now so this was helpful to see.
One thing I felt with the kubotas more than the kioti was that you were sitting on the tractor vs more down in it. Yours also sits a little higher I believe so I can imagine this made a big difference.
Love the videos!
Nice observations! Thanks for watching!
Wow Lucas, The pucker factor just watching you was very real for me. You are a brave man...
Very interesting, thank you for sharing. Dan 😊
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I have a BX23S with 54 inch MMM and the maximum wheel spacers I can use are 1 1/4 inch, which combined with fluid filled rear tires definitely has made a difference. I have very hilly property and a drainage ditch much like yours. For the minimal cost + whatever added wear and tear, it is well worth it if preventing even just one tip over. Ultimately, each individual must figure out their own specific limitations given their equipment, property, experience, skill level, etc. I certainly do appreciate these videos and Tractor forums adding to my hands on knowledge and experiences, but wish all the so called “safety experts” didn’t feel the need to impose their opinions and limitations on everyone else.
Yeah, I quit hanging out in the forums much because of the attitudes. Oh well…all part of it. Thanks for sharing your setup. 👊
What lug size did you order for your Kubota 23?
@@michealabercrombie4271 Not sure of actual lug size but it's the same size as for a common jeep which was about $40 for a pair on amazon and fit perfectly.
About a year ago I specifically asked you about wheel spacers when using a mid mount mower.
You said you were not sure if there’d be sufficient clearance and told me you would investigate.
Thank you for making this video and answering my question! I’m going to buy the same spacers you bought!
Right on! 👊
OK my 1.5” wheel spacers are on my tractor and the difference is like night and day! No longer does my tractor feel tipsy.
Kubota shouldn’t sell the BX23S with such a narrow track.
I’ve been on the farm for 49 years and have learned how to not kill myself. But for a newbie the stock BX23S could be a real eye opener!
Dad installed one of those tilt gauges on his hood. I ask "what number is the limit ?", his reply was that he didn't know. So I handed him a felt pen and told him to keep it his shirt pocket to mark it. He didn't think it was funny.
Lol. That’s funny! Hope he never finds out where the line goes.
I'm amazed at the difference. Good value upgrade!
I’m glad you finally bought some!! The 2” with the R4 tires on the right side is a little tight but, no problem. Like I’ve said before I put 1.5” on the front that helps a lot. You have to readjust your wheel stops so you don’t hit the deck and you loose turning radius but, the trade off is worth it to me. I did some research about the stress and couldn’t find any negative info. I was worried about the warranty on the tractor being brand new and the dealer told me there was no problem with me putting them on. Best $ I spent on my BX!!!!!!!!!
Great input. Thanks for sharing! I’m loving them. I can really tell a huge difference after mowing a few times with them.
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead you can tell a big difference with the front loader while turning .
I put the 2" and 1.5" on my bx23s made a big difference. I did not have to just the front wheel stops .
I'm surprised at putting spaces on the front wheels. The front wheels don't contribute to stability - they're on a pivot. That's why a machine with weight on the front is much less stable - if the rears are off the ground (or very light) you can tip the tractor over by turning tight on flat ground.
@@paullambert2668 the front won’t pivot but so far anyway then bottoms out against the frame. Bro-tec recommended them for the front so I bought them. I figured it wouldn’t hurt 😁
I have a JD 3038E. It's narrower and taller than my old 8n. When I'm bushhogging on my lower slopes, it just feels sketchy. Im sure its fine. But ive been thimking of spacers. Thanks for the video and recommendation. Ill be ordering these asap.
Thanks for illustrating to increase in stability. I did the 1" 1/2 spacer a couple of years ago. I figured it had to help. Just didn't know how much. I have never had my 2380 over that far. It does seem tippy.
I have a few areas on my back lawn that have a slop. I have a 1025r John Deere with 50 lb weights on the back wheels. I do get a bit nervous but to this date I've never rolled it. I think the weights are helping but it is still unnerving. Thanks for the post.
How's she goin'? Just checking out your channel and was very interested in this test you did. Mighty steep bank and the pucker factor would be pretty high I'd say!! LOL I was amazed at the difference the wheel spacers made. I have a Massey Ferguson sub-compact and I am forever backing off on grades as the tractor seems very tippy to me. Maybe I need a set of these spacers. I think your reasoning for going with the 1.5" was spot on. Gives a lot more stability and minimizes the stresses on the rear axle and components!! Great video and thanks for for posting. Take 'er easy!!
Thanks! I appreciate the comment!
I loaded the rear tires on my Massey, made a big difference in how tippy it feels.
2 years ago I put a canopy on my bx and to me it was heavier than I thought it should be. My land is pretty much level except for the road ditches . The tractor became more unstable than I liked so I put on 1.5" wheel spacers and they made a huge difference!
Awesome! Yeah, you definitely don’t want to add a bunch of weight up high. A canopy should be super light I would think…
Me too I was not expecting it to be that heavy but that's what my dealer sold as a universal canopy.
I would never try that with my LX series tractor. I tipped my LX, so I went knee jerk reaction and loaded the tires and put 4" spacers on the back. Big difference!
Now your tractor has a much lower center of gravity and is easier to upright if it does tip, so I may be more inclined to push the envelope. Anyway, thanks for the video.
I have a small Yanmar 19hp tractor 4x4. Scary on slight slopes. I first swapped the rear wheels and put them on the opposite side. Because of the wheel offset that alone made the rear track 6" wider and helped a lot. Since my property has many slopes it was still scary on the steeper ones. The next addition was 6" wheel spacers. The tires were now mostly outside of the fenders. This addition made the tractor feel much more comfortable on a slope. The last step was to add calcium fill on the tires. This lowered the center of gravity a lot.
Did you add 12" of track or 18" of track? I'm understanding that flipping the rims added 3" per side and then you added 6" wheel spacers. Is that two 6" spacers or two 3" spacers for 6" total? I ask because that sounds like a lot of leverage on the axles, but that sort of track width would be amazing for stability. Has your new setup given you any concern regarding drivetrain strain?
I just finished mowing a piece of property down by Trail BC, which is a bit of a slope.
It’s ok when you’re going straight up or down, sometimes the need is to be on an angle .
I have a 2305 JD, used a rear blade 5 foot wide low above the ground and it was sure thankful for this stability . Also had the loader & bucket on low down catch some stability at the front on the angled ground. Just because I have this property and never been mowed before. I think the rear blade would’ve been given the adequate stability.
I live in the Northeast and bought a Kubota B3030 where the rear wheels didn't have enough clearance to run tire chains in the winter. I put the Kubota OEM spacers on it and never looked back. The lack of wheel clearance for chains on my B3030 was one of only 2 negatives for the tractor in my opinion. The other negative was that it came with no 12-volt accessory plug/port. Even my $2,000 Husqvarna lawn tractor has one!
Nicely done, Lucas. I really need to consider this for my B2601.
Thanks, Ed! If you have hills on that new property I would say it is a worthwhile upgrade!
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead I’ve got hills that no spacer would solve 🤣
@@MyClutteredGarage me too, Buddy!
I have 2” Amazon spacers, love the stance, and stability. 2” spacers fit between the 60” mower deck wheels just fine.
I have a bx with 2 inch spacers and seeing the angle you were on, my pucker factor was up. There were times on a lesser angle I had to drop the front end loader because a rear wheel was coming up. Yes I kept the bucket low.
Every day, when I start I'm nervous on unlevel ground, as the day goes on I feel more comfortable, but I'm still really nervous on just a 10-15 degree grade. You were way beyond that.
I know my nervousness is keeping me safe but Im sure I could do a lot more work if I'd get over it
You have to do what you’re comfortable with. Don’t worry about what anyone else is doing. 👊
The bucket/FEL lifts centre of gravity. With loader on it'll be less stable. Speed is also a problem. Something that's safe slow is not safe faster - drop a wheel into a hole or hit a bump and you can easily go over.
It’s amazing how 3” of extra wheel base can make such a difference. I have though about getting some spacers for my tractor but if I go any wider I won’t fit between some of my trees. Great information and great demonstration! Take care Lucas!
I didn’t want mine much wider either. I feel like I found the right balance. It is much more stable. 👍
That's a very good point, especially on a SCUT: many people buy these BECAUSE they will (barely) fit through a standard 48" residential gate. Spacers would mess that up. I have one gate that is 6' wide, so I'm good even with 2" spacers.
Thats not wheelbase
Wheelbase is center to center from front to rear , side to side is track width .
I put 2” spacers on my BX23s, I don’t use mine to mow with. I use mine to get firewood, but I can say there’s less pucker factor now!! Thanks for the videos!!
Right on! Thanks for watching!
I just added 2" spacers on my BX2680, not because I mow on slopes, but because I wanted a little extra width.
Good mod and demo Lucas! Tractor Hard! 🚜💪!
Thanks, Brad!
Thanks. I have a bx25d it is a little tippy.
The very reason I’m keeping my old Craftsman riding mower, mowing the ditch and around the culver. Definitely think my BX will benefit from spacers. It has been tippy when using loader.
I went with the 2" spacers. I have turf tires and the 60" MM mower. My slope is close to yours and I don't have weighted tires. It definitely feels safer. My slope is right up along the gravel concession road on both sides of my lane .Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching!
If you think about what you said about going to far out makes sense as far as adding to much additional stress and putting internals in a bigger bind plus you gotta think about wheel seals too. Been thinking about wheel spacers for my L235 just to get a little more stability on slopes
Yeah, I think there is probably a middle ground that makes the tractor safer without too much danger to the drivetrain…
🟢I put 4" BORA spacers on my 2022 JD 3046r Cab Tractor.! Front and Back and its Rock Solid.!!! 🟢 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ With no problems.!!! 👍 Glad i listened to the owner of BORA.!!!
Wow! 4”. I’m sure that made an enormous difference!
Still haven't had any issues.! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I put 1.5" spacers on my BX 2680 and it was the best thing i ever did. Not too wide so that my wheels are not sticking out past the bucket.
The single best upgrade I ever made on my. BX. More torque as well.
You are right but I got rims that are 6" offset. They were for loaders.
The 54 deck is tighter. I bought the 1.4 inch spacers and the anti scalp wheels are close. Even had to turn around the pins on the scalp wheels to get the cotter pin away from the tires.
Thanks for sharing. I was wishing I had one for reference. 👍
What brand of spacers did you buy??
@@brianbarrett4100 I can't remember, maybe bro tek. My memory is as long as my,,,,,,,,,,, never mind.
Good information. I used to have a B7100 HST now I have a B 2650 and it feels much more tippy. Got to find out my bolt pattern and order some.
Thanks
On my Gravely Pro Turn Z 48 before I ordered the 1.5in spacers ……I looked at the axile/transmission specs on the Pro turn 52 & 60in decks. The 52 & 60 all have wider tires but each had the same 3100 transmission as my 48. This lead me to believe that spacers would not be an issue or added stress on the axle. The 1.5in spacers are the exact width of my 48in deck and the added stability on my slopes is incredible . I also run the Sun F ATV tires for added traction, turf saver tires can’t handle slopes especially when you have mud or clay.
Ahhh i run sunn atv tires on my bota bx1500 fronts and carlsons on rear. Had to ballast fronts to handle front end loader
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you should be able to swap your wheels from side to side. Doing so would increase track width of the rear. Fronts may be able to be done as well. At least that’s how I was taught to widen the track. I’ve never heard of wheel spacers on a tractor until this vid popped up in my feed.
Very helpful!
I'd been thinking I should put spacers on my B2601; loader work on some of the irregular terrain we have here gets downright scary at times. Sounds like even relatively small spacers would improve matters considerably.
That’s what I’m seeing. 👍
Eric, I'd highly recommend spacers on your B2601. I'm in the mountains of N PA and none of my 17 acres is anywhere near level! Mowing hay with my slightly bigger B2650 was pretty scarey at a couple of spots before the spacers.
I bolted on 1-1/2" spacers a coupla years ago to make room for tire chains, but I've been amazed by how much sidehill stability has improved. The difference has been surprising, both with the original fully loaded ag tread rear tires and with the current unloaded R4 tread rears.
My advice, fwiw: definitely install spacers!
If I had the budget I would go for dual wheels over spacers, as duals are wider. Also with "click" type duals a wheeel can be removed easily. I grew up on a hill country farm and the 80 hp tractor had duals, while the 45hp tractor had adjustable rims set to a 7'6" track over the factory 6" track.
Nice video, appreciate the demo
Thanks
I have a bx25 with a 60in. deck I put bro Tec 2in. spacers on it and it made a big difference in my little tractor. I live in southeast Ohio and our farm is all hill my tires are loaded and it helps.
Right on. You must be pretty close to my area. I know the terrain well. 👊
If you think Kubotas are tippy you should try a Kioti. I owned a Kioti for two days. Slopes that I had run 2 or 3 Kubotas would have rolled that K35 in a heart beet. I took it back and we went round and round. I "calculated" the CG of the Kioti was at least 4-5 inches higher than my B2400. The B2400 was my third Kubota. It had 80 hrs on it when I bought it. It ended up with another problem. The .450 wear plate in the hyd motor wasn't there. Which meant it was pulling the pistons .450 further than it should have. It quit at 600 hrs.
i loved the real life example of wheel spacers and it was clear it made a difference
I was surprised how obvious the difference was.
20 years without spacers on my bx1500. Does sound tempting.
Is that the 60" deck? I have the 54" and i think i can barely get by with 1". Definitely helps the stability factor 👍👍
i have a 54" deck and cant use the 2 " spacers with the deck , but i need the s
pacers more in the winter for plowing the help tremendously
Thanks for sharing. 👊
Great vid and points about mmm👍
Does an Older prior 2016 Bx2230 take the same spacers? Did you do spacers on the fronts also? Thanks. Found your channel to do fluid changes and it’s very helpful and informative. Great job.
Great video! I have the bx23s with the 60 inch mowing deck and two years ago, after research on some forums, i went with 2 inch. Made a huge difference. I can definitely say that extra space between the tires and deck wheels is a lot less than what you had there, but it hasn’t caused any issues.
My pucker factor even with 2 inch spacers would be super high on that hill you demonstrated. I might not even attempt it lol. But now i am definitely going to get out on my farm on some of the slopes i mow and try what you did while off your tractor with testing tip over!
I appreciate the comment! Stay safe out there! 👊
One video showed putting duals on his 1025 Deere. I think he also did fluid and spacers. Looked pretty solid.
@@tlm3574 duals would look pretty cool! I wouldn’t want the added width, but it would have to be stable!
I apologize if you covered this and I missed it. You should consider using locktite when putting the spacers on the tractor. This is the practice when putting these on cars. It isn't uncommon for these to loosen up some without the locktite. Locktite red is what they normally use on something like this. Best of luck...
Yeah, I don’t think I said much about installation. The ones I recommended came with red loctite and instructions. 🤞👊
Hi there from Australia!, I love your videos. They have saved me heaps of time and kept me safe. I have a bx2670 i was wondering if you knew if they would be the same spacers for my tractor? I cant seem to find the exact dimensions or a comparison? Thanks !
I am pretty sure they are the same. I am not 100% certain. Thanks for watching!
Lean toward the hill use your personal ballast to change the center of gravity it wouldn't have much affect on a large tractor but on a small one it matters
Thank you, that was helpful. I've had my Kubota abota for about a year. I have a Hill with the same Slope , maybe a little more. I use the fwd drive to Keep It from Sliding in the Front. I think it helps I've been using the backhoe for counter balance. I like your videos keep up the good work. Your son's a helpful person Tell him to keep it up to hes doing good.
Thank you!
Wonder if those spacers will work on my bobcat ct1021..
I live on a mountainside and run 2" spacers on my SCUT (and loaded tires). My dealer said they would not void my axle warranty. I've been happy with them.
Nice! What type of tractor you running?
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead a Massey CG1725M
@@DougBittinger nice!
Overall, I think spacers are a good thing I have the John Deere 1025R, which is about the same thing as yours… And I plan on getting a pair of spacers like yours because they were a few scenarios on the back part of my property with that rear tire came off the ground and I thought I was gonna tip the thing over… I’m too old to be handling up on stuff like that… that being said, you said your front tires were turned and you were still sliding along… I invested in about 240 pounds of suitcase weights to put on the front. Now my front tires are always gripping the ground I feel a lot safer with them on there.
Nice! Great tip!
I installed 2" spacers on my BX2380 with a 60" MMM and still have plenty of clearance.
I put 2” spaces on my BX. My hills are a lot steeper than yours. It makes a huge difference. I also have R14 tyres. I’m also going to put water in the wheels soon.
I have 2” w versa turf. Fits fine. I find them a necessity.
Spacers and loaded tires make a huge difference
Seldom do I have my mower deck attached but almost always have the backhoe and front loader in operation. Very little of my acreage is level and on several occasions I found myself teetering on three wheels while carrying a load. I even have to swing the backhoe way over to one side for counterbalance in order to drive the tractor across some slopes. I will certainly look into spacers but I'll need to check my clearances to see whether 1.5 or 2 inch will work. I think I may also add wheel weights but will not fill my tires. I hear many bad things about filling tires and the problems it may cause later on, especially if you have a puncture or need to change a tire.
Wheel weights are a great option. I’ve had my tires filled for over 3 years with no issues though. I’m happy with that.
I was more concerned about bucket width since I don't have a mid mount mower. My b2601 is 48" stock and the bucket is 54". So I went with 2.5" spacers, and man, let me tell you what a difference it makes!
Nice! Thanks for sharing!
I can see how beneficial it is with you adding the spacers. How do you feel about fluid in the rear tires? Do you think that would be beneficial as well?
Absolutely! My tires are filled and the machine would be nearly helpless on my property without it.
Great video. I have several steep areas that got my attention while riding along them. I considered spaers but haven't pulled the trigger. I don't know if the spacers will fit on my Massey GC 1710 sub-compact tractor. I think they're only made for Kubota tractors. Enjoyed a full-watch and will give those spacers another look-see. Have a fine week and hope you're not dealing with the same intense heat that we're getting here in NC. Triple digit heat. 👍🏽🤠 8/15/23
These spacers are a standard 5x4.5 bolt pattern and fit Jeeps as well as many other vehicles. I’m willing to bet they fit your Massey or you can find a bolt pattern that does. Amazon has a great return policy so if they don’t fit, just shop them back. 🤷🏼♂️
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead 👍🏽🤠
Maybe Massey is more worried you will be too confident on slopes and die as a result. Dead people can't by more Massey stuff for their tractors.
Good point @jc-pj3nh , we surely wouldn't want to disrupt future Massey sales 😁. Have a merry Christmas. 👍🏽🤠 12/18/23@@jc-pj3nh
I run 4" spacers on my BX23s in the winter so my V Bar tire chains don't snag any of the hydraulic lines under the rear fenders.
I take them off in the spring so I can equip my mower deck and I can tell you there is a drastic difference in the stability.
Also, I believe you could "just" get away with 3" spacers and still run your mower deck. 4" is just too tight (only a quarter inch gap between the tire and the mount). The moment your deck nudged a tree or a post the A shaped anti scalp wheel mount would begin to pare your rear tire tread off it's carcass like an apple peeler.
You could get away with 3" if you pay attention to the mower deck's lateral movement when it contacts trees and posts. You would have about an inch and a quarter of lateral movement before apple peeling would begin.
I cannot stress this point enough! WHEN YOU RUNT SPACERS 3" OR LONGER YOU MUST TORQUE, RE-TORQUE, AND THEN CHECK AND RE-CHECK THE TORQUE ON YOUR WHEEL SPACERS MONTHLY. Something about steel bolts and aluminum parts under stress, those nuts come loose regularly. Thread locker helps but you still shouldn't trust it blindly. It only takes 15 min to pop the tires off and check the spacers for 90ft-lbs.
Interesting. I didn’t know anyone was running 4” spacers. Good to know you are doing it without issue. Thanks for sharing your experience. 👊
Were your spacers hardened properly after the machining process , if at all ? Some of the stuff from " overseas " is an accident waiting to happen .
My spacers were made by Bro-tek, here in Canada (New Brunswick) I doubt you can buy higher quality spacers anywhere else.@@bobbrinkerhoff3592
I have a BX with a 48 inch MMM, Im curious if the spacers will work with it. What size MMM is on yours? Great Video! Thanks for taking the time to share!!
So I don’t have a 48” deck for reference, but I will say that Amazon has a solid return policy…I would order a set and give it a shot. Worst that happens is you return them. 🤷🏼♂️👊
My property is very hilly, I use 4” spacers from Bro-Tec on my Kubota L225 and plan to add 2” Bora spacers to my new L2501 soon. I always load my tires and I always wear my seatbelt with the ROPS up.
Nice! I’d say you’re going to love that L2501.
Thank you!
Thanks for the info. I almost tipped my BX23s and since have been skittish about mowing or driving on hills. Do you also fill your tires with fluid? If so how did you do it? I would love a good DIY way to fill the tires.
I have filled tires, but my dealer took care of that for me. I believe Paul at Williamson Ridge Outdoors is releasing a video soon about DIY filling the tires you might keep an eye on his channel.
bx 2380 have 2.5 spacers with a 60 inch deck... loaded tires ...still would like more stability
I have an old 3750 kabota the rear rims are two pieces / dish and rim.The dish can be turned in or out that's a 6" adjustment and the rim Is 8 more one way or 3" the other way . Each rear wheel has 4 width adjustments From stock to full width you can add 14" to each side .Key. Factor is keeping load on axel close to center line of tires my rears are 10" wider each side a 60" shredder/brush hog Edges cut centerline of my rears.. A little stunt driving n+s then e+w and don't even need weed beater ..
it didn't look like those were hub centric wheel spacers. I have spacers on my tractor and they do the job wonderfully, but especially if they are loaded tires you should be using hub centric spacers.
my old kubota b6001 has adjustable width from factory. Are they removing features now? Or is this only for mower type mini tractors.
I can replace my wheel bearings but I can’t replace my spine. I’ll take my chances on wearing out the bearings. I’m starting off with some factory ones on the L3902 I’m getting and if I feel like I need more, I will upgrade.
Right on!
You definitely just push the limits😮 👍 put a digital angle finder on that and let us know in the comments😂
35 degrees. 👍
It also looked like your rear rims can be swapped to for more width. The rear axle is alot more solid and beefy compared to the front, that being said a 6" wheel spacer and maxing the 3 point lift is asking for it and is definitely adding stress but alot of tractors have rims can swap around for wider or narrower stants too. The front axle is alot smaller than the rear and has the additional weight and stress of a loader and the engine on smaller tires but the rear I wouldn't think a 1"-2" spacer is doing much other than better stability.
Very interested in the 1.5" spacers. Will the ones linked fit my BX2680? This is great information as I have a great fear of rolling over....AGAIN!
Yes, the same ones should fit your 2680
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead Thanks. I bought the 2" ones and they fit my 2680 with turf tires just fine. Thinking of some 2" for the front also, have you tried them?
@@danu3247 I haven't. With the pivoting front axle, I'm just not sure they would help anything. I also have my hydraulic pressure turned up so I don't want to add more stress to the front axles...
Probably a dumb question but i will ask. Can you put double tires/wheels on the back with a space in the middle so it will clear the deck wheels?
My dealer said they know a guy who put duals on his so it can be done.
Wheel spacers are a must. I've got 2" on my Yanmar with loaded tires and before I put them mowing with the offset fail mower I use was an E-Ride along the pond and creek on my place
I'd be terrified of getting Electrocuted if you were to roll an Electric Tractor into the pond! Ha, Lol!
Should the "Post Office" and "any minute" ever be used in the same sentence? Not sure why but Kubota does not recommend well spacers for a B260X equipped with a backhoe or mid-monut mower deck - I get the mower deck due to interference but I do wonder what the issue is with the backhoe - perhaps it is the weight of the backhoe.
Careful, I work for the Post Office! 😂
Yeah, I would guess that the weight of the backhoe and the added stress on the axles would be why…
I see the problem, a blind man could see it in a minute, you ain’t using a John Deere. Just pickin with ya, that’s a nice machine! Watched ya dig your water line with it and for its size it did a great job!
lol. I have nothing against Deere, never operated one. I am happy with the Kubota though. 👍👊
Your facial expression at 5:36 is all the "science" I need to tell that it made a difference! LOL.
Lol
My BX has 2 inch spacers on the front and 3 inches on the back and I still wouldn’t want to mow that bank. We have R4 tires on ours and a 60” mower deck. Even with the 3 inch spacers the mower deck still technically fits, but the tires rub and sometimes even catch so most likely they be getting cut off. The front tires also rub and catch sometimes when turning at a sharp angle which if not careful will bend the mower deck and or lifting assemblies so I need to adjust the turn stops. Overall it has helped tremendously with mowing steep stuff, but I still don’t like pushing it too far.
Those front spacers really don't do any thing, untill the axel hits its's limit. Chris
@@christophergallagher531Even then its likely a back wheel is already off the ground and roll maybe unrecoverable. Everything I've read is all negative concerning wear and damage to hubs etc with no benefit to stability with front spacers
I had my tires filled and the maximum with spacers the dealership would go wider than 1". I have a b2601 and a 60" three point hitch mower.
There are places I mow where no seatbelt is needed for grip on the seat.
Going on 3rd year now.
I’m sure the dealer is going to be conservative on their recommendations. I’d say the 1” spacers are enough to do the trick though.
@@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead not really.
Lots of times its been teetering on the front Axel pivot.
I asked about duals and the absolutely not!
When my engine is vibrating against my frame I know im too steep of an angle and back off. Its a non intentional feature of the 2017 bx23s. So I dont really need spacers the engine tells me when im too steep.
I’ve got a Kubota and their nice. When mowing banks I try to back up the banks when possible. Remember those roll bars ant for looks.
This is always a fun topic *grabs popcorn* haha
Lol. For sure!
The Toro Z maters 4000 will go anywhere you want it to 45 degree angle and steeper but that's for the tip
I have pilot hubs on mine
I bought my spacers from Bro-tec. Not cheap but, they are made just for the Tractor CNC machine. I had seen and read about casted and cheap spacers cracking. I felt better about spending a little more for them. Did not want a wheel to come off while I was on the side of the hill. Just saying
Do you have the 54 " or 60" on your BX23S?
Thanks
60”