The Elizabeth Line probably the best thing to happen in London, both architecturally, and for the city, in a long long time. I hate the word "iconic" as it's way over used, but I think this might actually qualify (at least in the future). The whole team did a fantastic job on this.
You'd expect a big impact for £18billion, but I agree the Elizabeth Line does the job. In fact, I think it is far better suited as an entry point for HS2 than Euston station.
I largely agree with what’s said in this video. The Elizabeth line - as soon as I enter it, I feel in a far more relaxed, confident environment. This also extends to the trains - I now know from experience that the ride will be smooth, rapid and comfortable. With the level boarding, you just walk on as though the train is just a continuation of the platform. Even if it’s standing room only, there’s really (for me) no need to hold on to anything, because the ride is so smooth. The relaxed experience also extends to the door open time - normally a longer time than on the other tube trains. I often choose my route through London to deliberately include, when practical, the Elizabeth line. I always look forward to that part of my journey. All the design has definitely been a success in creating a whole new level of experience!
Well deserves the prize. I have been living for a year in an area of the Elizabeth line. Best line ever. When it opened as until now, I touch the wall, I keep looking up and admire every design. I still need to visit many of its stops but Bond Street is one of my favorite. Hope passengers will look after it. Now, need the line to go 24H on Friday & Saturday to give it a 6 Stars ❤
This rail line and its stations will show people for the next hundred years that we, at the start of the 21st century, could still do it when we tried.
As a lifelong Londoner, its still difficult to feel like you’re living in real life when in/on the Elizabeth Line system. That alone should win it the prize. On architecture alone, it is absolutely faultless.
Arguably one of the things that doesn't work in the Elizabeth line underground sections are the platform seats. They were designed without backrests so the seated person leans against the tunnel wall. The walls are already quite heavily stained behind the seats so I predict that the seating will eventually get changed for something more conventional or they will change the wall covering behind the seats to something that attracts less grime.
The UK still does this kind of thing extraordinarily well - thoughtfully, intelligently and ambitiously. Just when there’s political will to get behind it. (Oh and 🤑
Compare this to some of the new rail projects in the rest of the UK, which have been in the news recently. A new station opens in Bristol which is so basic and austere , little more than a bus stop with platforms. The new Cardiff metro where the trains have to run through tunnels on battery power because they cannot afford to modify the tunnels and of course HS2 the railway to nowhere. Can people not understand why it annoys people outside the London bubble when they see things like this
On accessibility; many of the stations still require ramps. Annoying how they phrase it like it’s “job done”. If they’re seeking awards, the grading should be from the present, and at present, it’s not fully accessible.
Anyway, apologies for being so crass. I'd have reservations going up against this if it is a finalist. All these individual worthies rightly extolling the virtues of their own speciality. Many many miles of construction site. And so on, versus the unique joys of the more usual contender, the single building.
Build the most expensive single line underground project in Eurasian history, half a decade late, can't afford to do level platforms etc. Get a prize. Nothing shows how utterly incompetent the British Architectural/Civil Engineering space is. "inclusion" my arse, if it had been at Parisan construction costs we would already have Crossrail 2 and more with all the transit access to ordinary people that could provide. Instead RIBA decides to reward its own professional failures on unaccountable terms.
The architecture and engineering of the Elizabeth line isn’t the reason it went over budget and got delayed. You can award something for looking good even if the the politicians or contractors screw it up
@@petitkruger2175 Competent transit agencies don't hire fancy architectural firms, read the Transit Costs Project. Compare the value engineering of the Traditional Tube let alone modern champions like Spain, Italy or Korea.
@@Nooticus A lot of people will be crying when there isn't a Bakerloo extension or Crossrail 2 because the rest of the country refuses to release the money.
Overspending on ego driven stations rather than simple and functional needs to stop. Money is short enough as it is. How many more kms could we have got for the excess money spent on edifices that add neither efficiency or functionality.
Has anyone ever told you that money isn't real? This project has taken money from the banks and put in to the hands of the workers and provided an investment that is seeing far more use than was projected at the start and will be in place for hundreds of years.
And even then, I don't think the design is particularly interesting when compared to other projects, such as the jubilee line extension. It's very swish and clean, built to function, and does have some well thought out touch such as the totems and pasa anger flows - but it's arguably quite restrained, particularly considering how much time and money was spent.
Unpleasant stations don't inherently make a project cheaper lol, pretty terrible mindset - the problem lies in the UK's planning system. This will last for years and pay back multiples of its cost
The Elizabeth Line probably the best thing to happen in London, both architecturally, and for the city, in a long long time. I hate the word "iconic" as it's way over used, but I think this might actually qualify (at least in the future). The whole team did a fantastic job on this.
You'd expect a big impact for £18billion, but I agree the Elizabeth Line does the job. In fact, I think it is far better suited as an entry point for HS2 than Euston station.
I largely agree with what’s said in this video.
The Elizabeth line - as soon as I enter it, I feel in a far more relaxed, confident environment. This also extends to the trains - I now know from experience that the ride will be smooth, rapid and comfortable. With the level boarding, you just walk on as though the train is just a continuation of the platform. Even if it’s standing room only, there’s really (for me) no need to hold on to anything, because the ride is so smooth. The relaxed experience also extends to the door open time - normally a longer time than on the other tube trains.
I often choose my route through London to deliberately include, when practical, the Elizabeth line. I always look forward to that part of my journey.
All the design has definitely been a success in creating a whole new level of experience!
Total love the Elizabeth Line, it is a game changer for getting across London, and the stations are amazing
Well deserves the prize. I have been living for a year in an area of the Elizabeth line. Best line ever. When it opened as until now, I touch the wall, I keep looking up and admire every design. I still need to visit many of its stops but Bond Street is one of my favorite. Hope passengers will look after it. Now, need the line to go 24H on Friday & Saturday to give it a 6 Stars ❤
I LOVE THE ELIZABETH LINE!!! 💜💜💜
same!!
Fluid, clean and user friendly design, reminds me of Starwars storm troopers! 🤔🙃😃
This rail line and its stations will show people for the next hundred years that we, at the start of the 21st century, could still do it when we tried.
Great system! The core section is great for Wheelchairs!
As a lifelong Londoner, its still difficult to feel like you’re living in real life when in/on the Elizabeth Line system. That alone should win it the prize. On architecture alone, it is absolutely faultless.
Arguably one of the things that doesn't work in the Elizabeth line underground sections are the platform seats. They were designed without backrests so the seated person leans against the tunnel wall. The walls are already quite heavily stained behind the seats so I predict that the seating will eventually get changed for something more conventional or they will change the wall covering behind the seats to something that attracts less grime.
The Elizabeth Line is a triumph of London - the difference between it and the rest of the system make it like an oasis lol
The UK still does this kind of thing extraordinarily well - thoughtfully, intelligently and ambitiously. Just when there’s political will to get behind it. (Oh and 🤑
designedbyai AI fixes this (AI Architectural Designs). RIBA Stirling Prize 2024 winner
Compare this to some of the new rail projects in the rest of the UK, which have been in the news recently. A new station opens in Bristol which is so basic and austere , little more than a bus stop with platforms. The new Cardiff metro where the trains have to run through tunnels on battery power because they cannot afford to modify the tunnels and of course HS2 the railway to nowhere. Can people not understand why it annoys people outside the London bubble when they see things like this
On accessibility; many of the stations still require ramps. Annoying how they phrase it like it’s “job done”. If they’re seeking awards, the grading should be from the present, and at present, it’s not fully accessible.
Seriously, must be one of the easiest things to design, how many tube stations have come before, templates ?
1:48 Really?
What?
And what cools her down?
Anyway, apologies for being so crass.
I'd have reservations going up against this if it is a finalist. All these individual worthies rightly extolling the virtues of their own speciality. Many many miles of construction site.
And so on, versus the unique joys of the more usual contender, the single building.
The cladding is made of very poorly chosen material. It is already very grubby .
looks like another dismal, stark modern train station to me
Is this a joke? It's clean and neat....but it's just a clinical tube line ! Whatever next? A bucket?
Build the most expensive single line underground project in Eurasian history, half a decade late, can't afford to do level platforms etc. Get a prize. Nothing shows how utterly incompetent the British Architectural/Civil Engineering space is. "inclusion" my arse, if it had been at Parisan construction costs we would already have Crossrail 2 and more with all the transit access to ordinary people that could provide. Instead RIBA decides to reward its own professional failures on unaccountable terms.
You must be fun at parties
The architecture and engineering of the Elizabeth line isn’t the reason it went over budget and got delayed. You can award something for looking good even if the the politicians or contractors screw it up
@@petitkruger2175 Competent transit agencies don't hire fancy architectural firms, read the Transit Costs Project. Compare the value engineering of the Traditional Tube let alone modern champions like Spain, Italy or Korea.
waaaaaa im crying like baby waaa 🤡
@@Nooticus A lot of people will be crying when there isn't a Bakerloo extension or Crossrail 2 because the rest of the country refuses to release the money.
Overspending on ego driven stations rather than simple and functional needs to stop. Money is short enough as it is. How many more kms could we have got for the excess money spent on edifices that add neither efficiency or functionality.
Has anyone ever told you that money isn't real? This project has taken money from the banks and put in to the hands of the workers and provided an investment that is seeing far more use than was projected at the start and will be in place for hundreds of years.
And even then, I don't think the design is particularly interesting when compared to other projects, such as the jubilee line extension. It's very swish and clean, built to function, and does have some well thought out touch such as the totems and pasa anger flows - but it's arguably quite restrained, particularly considering how much time and money was spent.
It's not just about the money, money, money. It's about capacity, frequency, lots of things; witness the non-spherical Circle line now.
Unpleasant stations don't inherently make a project cheaper lol, pretty terrible mindset - the problem lies in the UK's planning system. This will last for years and pay back multiples of its cost