The best view at ATL is finding a window near the ends of one of the concourses, and watching planes take off or land continuously, often twice per minute. In that way, efficiency ends up being its own aesthetic.
Last time I was at the Denver airport (a very similar configuration to ATL) they even had outdoor patios at the end of the terminal you could sit in to watch planes take off...I guess we're not the only ones that recognize the beauty in this.
I’ve been to Daxing airport, it’s absolutely amazing. I enjoyed so much wondering around it. Also, that’s the first time I could conveniently take a shower in an airport for free! And the way it is connected to the city infrastructure is just amazing. No need to take a car at all. Bravo!
I wish I have the opportunity to experience Daxing airport in the future. I went to Beijing 2 years ago and missed the opportunity both times due to incompatible flight schedules.
This! I am currently visiting Beijing, came in through Daxing and the efficiency of being able to hop on that Daxing Express train straight into the city ($4usd, 25 minute journey) is just amazing. The train seats are way more comfortable than the flight too.
Yeah I really felt that convenience in Shanghai Pudong airport. Taking the Maglev to the city centre is a surreal experience and all for £5. China doesn't get enough credit in that regard.
Long Beach California is another one with much outdoor space. KOA and LGB, however, handle a small fraction of the traffic that major hubs, like ATL do. Tough comparison.
My most favorite airport (so far) is Changi Airport Singapore. It’s seamlessly connected with all kind of private and public transport, function as a shopping center, public park, sightseeing area, souvenir shops, ughhh I cannot stop thinking about it, it’s just too perfect in my opinion, it’s checked all of my lists
Carpets floorings and spilt interconnecting terminals instead of being in just 1 main terminal. Reduces the clutter upon the pickup/dropoff and departure/arrival process.
Honestly, I'm one of those weirdos that LOVE every aspect of traveling by plane. I could spend hours sitting and watching the goings on outside the terminal as well as people watching inside. Saarinen very much embodied my excitement and love of the total experience of flying.
Me too! In just about any airport, there’s so much to see, whether you want to window shop or people-watch or plane-spot. Or I can just relax at the gate with a snack and enjoy my books or electronic devices and just chill out. I’m secretly excited when I get a longish layover at an interesting airport (as long as it isn’t too ridiculous, like overnight).
@@annabethwivell327 I've been known to drag my family to different airports just for the experience! IAD and MCO have been two of my favorite destinations (in the US). There's just something so exhilarating about the buzz of seeing people and planes converge...And if the architecture is stunning, that heightens the experience even more!
Barajas in Spain is the airport that has stuck in my mind the most. I've only been there once but every once in a while I will randomly remember the shapes and the slow gradient on the inside of the roof
Hands down Daxing airport. After landing there I felt like exploring the place so I didn't just get my bags and leave. The place is so inviting and modern, so efficient and well organized, it's captivating. Even after a very long flight I just couldn't get enough of it, no mater how tired I was, I had to walk around and see the zen gardens and the other relaxing areas that are inside this amazing structure. I can't wait to visit again.
China's train stations are designed like airports too, with the upper level for departing passengers & the lower one for arriving ones, plus security & ID checks at the entrance & during ticketing
Excellent video! One thing to add: Many airports around the world are becoming heavily focused on retail. Some feel more like shopping malls that they happen to park planes at. It becomes a bit obnoxious, really - many airports are now purposefully creating labyrinthine mazes of retail (especially duty-free shops) that you have to navigate through before you can find the gate.
Apparently Heathrow is one of the top airports for extracting the most amount of money out of passengers, it was one of their primary goals. Maybe being privately owned has a lot to do with that.
I stayed at the TWA hotel last year and it was amazing - stepping back in time - I loved it - I’m so glad that it wasn’t torn down during the ‘we don’t care about the past’ 1970’s
My first experience of American airports was back in the early 90's when I arrived at ATL, I have to say I didn't realise until later that it was the busiest airport, whilst the loss of views when travelling down to the train to the main terminal, it was fairly relaxed, which I actually appreciate more than a nice visual aesthetic.
ATL’s efficiency is what makes it so beautiful. There is no doubt that, even with its upgrades, it is not an aesthetically pleasing complex. But it is hard not to marvel at the sheer volume of people, baggage, and airplanes traveling through that airport at all hours. I know most love to hate it, but it will always hold a special place in my heart.
As a business traveler I want IN and OUT and somewhere to maybe get some snacks, a book, or a meal. I am not going to buy a designer suit, or luggage, or lingerie (for wife). In that regard I appreciate ATL. Even though PHX is built on a similar concept its and airport I despise because that 45 minute walk to change planes is common there and the only way between terminals is a walkway conveyer speedway. They really need a train. And don't even get me started on LAX or JFK.
Anyone who is designing an airport, MUST study ATL. Everything about it is pure logic...except one thing. They named the first concourse "T" (for terminal), then it goes A, B, C, D, E. This always confuses first-timers.
I enjoy spending time at the airport before takeoff. It gets me in the travel mood and mindset. My favorite airport is Singapore Changi and the Jewel. Absolutely love the art and living plants throughout. My least favorite is Seattle unless you're flying International.
My opinion of Seattle is the opposite lmao. I actually really like Seattle’s domestic experience but the international terminal might as well be Mordor with the terrible food options and nonexistent shops and other things to distract yourself with while waiting
@@hassanabdulaziz7275the carpet makes it much harder to pull your luggages. It's like paving roads with carpet and driving your car over it. Looks nice but impractical
I disagree. Changi is overrated. The carpets make it absolutely difficult to drag your luggages. Doing security at the boarding gates and then trapping you in a room without toilets after that means you can't bring any drinks you have bought at the concourse onto the aircraft (many other airports don't have this problem as they do security checks before passport checks). If I want to bring onboard a local Singaporean drink, I can't. And then they trap you in a room without toilets after security and before boarding, which means that you can only go to the toilet once you are onboard, not ideal when you are moving along the aisle against the flow of traffic of people boarding
PDX in Oregon!!! The latest remodel is absolutely amazing and incredible - you have to see it to believe you're actually in an airport -- a total experience -- looks and smells like the PNW! And they're not done... working on another phase and I want to see that when it's completed!!
@@yxeanget-any Yep, amazing interior (Jewel!) but the layout is bad-ish -- only Terminal 1 has direct access to both runways while T2 and T3 have only one direct runway access leading to long taxiing half of the time. And T4 is the worst, located at the wrong end of one of the runways so long taxi all the time!
Changi has probably the most beautiful and cool smoking lounge in the world at Terminal 3 airside. Large, air conditioned, non-smoky with a Zen Garden,mini waterfall, fountain, greeneries and rivulets with amazing view of the runway and planes. So unforgettable that I actually chose flights that lands at T3
TWA was the first stop I made after arriving in the US. I was astonished by how beautiful and comfortable a terminal can be, representing what New York is to me for a long time.
As an airport planner, I think you did a great job on the video. One comment is that Atlanta is not the only airport to serve more than 100 million annual passengers. Beijing Capital International Airport also achieved this before Daxing opened. (Personal pet peeve: never say tarmac. It is ramp or apron.) Thanks again!
Love hearing Michael's take on anything but especially airports and the different concepts! Side note, he did not have to roast ATL's lack of aesthetics like that, but at the same time I completely agree lol
I appreciate SFO for having art exhibits all over the place! Arriving early allowed us to enjoy a Pixar Toy Story retrospective ❤ I dream of one day going to Singapore and specifically spending time in their crazy fancy airport :)
Yeah bc a year before the time slots the wait for security was like 3-6 hours. And they still haven't fixed the baggage handling issues. It's an atrocious airport.
I hated it the first time - you have to walk forever, and it was sometimes confusing on where you go next. But the second time through we loved it - things were more familiar and we realized the walks were long, but everything flowed nicely. And staying at the Hilton in the airport the night before our departure much more stress free.
I’m a Mechanical Engineer at a small consulting firm in California. This sort of content providing architectural insight is so cool. I am lucky to have been designed part of a few unique buildings & hope I get to do many more.
it does function well: i'll agree!! still not sure what those weird scenes are trying to be in the pit/to the subways.. looks like a dry fountain?... I dunno---cheap looking, whatever the attempt..
Seriously, do you have a magic pass that lets you get through security in under 1 hour? Because, please share the magic. I really dislike Denver other than the fact you can quickly catch a train to escape the airport.
Yes, the ceilings at the check in are very creative, and after you get off the train, you enter a VERY spacious concourse. I do feel that Denver airport is underrated.
@christopherchurch9874 ex-ATLien here. I always wondered the same. However in my opinion is for 2 reasons: 1 don't confuse people that delta only uses D gates 2- It would considered "free advertising" for delta? Hahahaa that's me making assumptions lol
@@christopherchurch9874 Even the air traffic controllers use "Dixie" instead of "Delta" when using the phonetic alphabet. Way too many things are already Delta at ATL.
I'd love to see more videos on transportation and infrastructure like this one! Even more on other airports, since TWA isn't a working terminal anymore.
I’m probably one of the few people who loves LAX. While the inefficiency of the “horseshoe” is frustrating, the terminals are getting better each time I visit. The Theme Building is such an iconic structure, which few airports can boast. My least favourite is Dubai. I can’t put my finger on the actual problem, but it’s always a relief to get out of there.
I loved Changi airport in Singapore, so exquisite and exotic but comfy at the same time. Given the fact that most travelers expectation peaks at its highest when they arrived at the airport, that one really hit the spot.
Balancing aesthetics with efficiency is crucial for enhancing the traveler experience. I’d love to see more examples of airports that manage to do both well!!
Detroit Airport-McNamara Terminal. Simple, beautiful, and efficient. Also, plenty of natural light! Edit: I am no architect but the way they design McNamara is both efficient and aesthetically pleasing, IMO. I always enjoy going back to Michigan because of the airport. The Sky Lounge is amazing as well!
Do you seriously think that they can compete with China?😆 Cmon, the ugliest metro station in China looks far better than the most futuristic american airport
Agreed, it’s a very visually appealing terminal, probably one of the best in North America. Detroit is underrated for architecture, as mentioned in the video, Saarinen designed the GM tech center and a couple other sites like Cranbrook. Also can’t forget Albert Kahn. And the beautiful art deco buildings downtown.
Love the Daxing model!! Live in NYC and while the airports are upgraded and more modern now they’re almost worse than before because it takes so much longer through shopping areas to get to the gate (LGA in particular). Wish more design thought went into passenger experience vs maximizing passenger revenue
The downside to the satellite concept is there's only one security checkpoint for all terminals, which is why security lines for DEN and ATL are super long compared to other airports.
Thank you! I'm saying... the security experience at DEN and ATL is just some dark version of waiting in line. Shouting, shuffling, uncomfortable, unclear, confusing, and just so slow.
This is a design error! You can have satellite-style check-in, too. No need for a single bottleneck (unless making passengers miserable is your plan, as TSA seems to like it :-} ).
KLIA in Malaysia has a satellite terminal. There's a small security checkpoint in the main terminal but it's very efficient because they only scan the bags. Then there's the full security checkpoint at every gate in both main and satellite terminal
@@x--.DEN is awful. So confusing. ATL is great. You just need to spring for Clear. I lived in Atlanta over 20 years and was in and out of that airport countless times. Clear really makes it a breeze. I now live in NYC. LaGuardia is simple too, but JFK is a pain.
I love airports. I'd go just to stroll around them if it weren't for security. What's bad is how awful the customer service is by airlines. Mainly the stress of showing up with a purchased ticket and not really knowing if you'll make your flight due to lines and overselling, etc.
This guy could make a 10-part series about the architecture of ant farms and I would binge watch every single one and then leave a comment asking for more. And honestly, I don’t even care about architecture but he makes me want to care.
@@lelo9923 as much as Singapore airport is amazing, it isn't very useful as an example in this discussion. The video is using two extreme examples of aesthetics vs efficiency in building design. Singapore airport is somewhere in the middle, and it's an incredible airport because of it's systems design, automation, additional features, etc. It's architectural design isn't particularly unique as compared to other airports. Whereas the airports mentioned here would perfectly showcase the points made in the video.
I recently flew into PHX. Our plane arrived at gate F14 in Terminal 3. We had to walk the length on the terminal to get to the escalators to go down to Baggage Claim level. Then we walked back the entire length of the terminal to get to baggage claim. We then had to walk the entire length of the terminal with our bags to get back to the escalators that would take us up one level above the gates to the "Sky Train" that would take us to the Rental Car Center. This is by far the least efficient for people airport I have ever been through.
Mr Wyetzner …extraordinary presentation by this erudite of the architecture world. We are introduced to the beauty of airport architecture in such simple way that makes sense to everyone lucky enough to stumble on one of his awe inspiring presentations. Thank you. 🙋♂️
Three of the largest airports in the US have the same design issues, which make them a nightmare for travelers and airlines: Los Angeles (LAX), New York (JFK) and Miami (MIA). Runways along the property perimeters and gates stretching around the core which contain parking, ticketing and baggage. They need to adopt the Atlanta concept by moving the parking and terminal functions off the airport property, freeing up land for planes and passenger gates. Build the linear passenger structures like Atlanta, but with enhanced esthetics, connecting them by trains the travel over the building rooftops, with bridges spanning over taxiways and eventually reach the terminal. Provide bold, clear graphics that don't require understanding English to guide the passengers to their various destinations (Using letters A,B,C,D,E,F and colors red, orange, yellow, green, blue, and purple). Keep it simple while making it attractive and inviting. Make the airport experience as exciting an adventure as the traveling itself!
Oh gosh, you like Atlanta's airport? Really? Felt like around every corner was a chokepoint. That said LAX is moving toward exactly what you describe, hopefully they do a better job than Atlanta did because I dislike flying in there so much. Rather a dentist appointment than a flight to ATL
I think a difference between something like ATL and some major Pacific airports has to do with layover. It's rare that I'm in ATL longer than an hour between flights. You don't want to go do or see anything in the airport because really you need to just get to your next gate and MAYBE have 15 mins for a quick bite. On the other hand, when flying thru Asia and the Pacific, and I often have six hour or even 24 hour layovers, and then, yeah, having a big nice airport with lots of things to see and do becomes a thing. ATL does have some little art exhibits and things and in 20 years of flying I've never had time to see them.
Because I live here I am partial to Hartsfield. I love the airport because I lived near it and I loved to hear the sound of planes taking off. Plus it is a beautiful chaotic symphony and once you understand the layout you will appreciate it more….I actually love getting on the plane train, and the escalators.
During the late 60's, we would go on a date to the PHL observation deck and watch planes take off and land. It was thrilling. My first plane ride was on Eastern Airlines and we wore dresses & suits. My favorite airports now are the small ones. Easy arrivals & departures, no crowds.
I would love for Paris' airport to be explained and analized this way! it is such a strange building and every time I have been inside of it it feels like im traveling through 20 completely different constructions
My favorite airports are the small regional ones. Some can be aesthetically pleasing, like Santa Barbara, but they're mostly convenient and calm compared to monstrosities like DFW.
My experience at SB in 1988 involved getting off the plane outside, then down the portable steps and onto the tarmac, and then a short walk into the terminal. I'm not sure if it's the same now. It did feel like a calm space, like a bus stop in a small town.
Singapore Changi airport has been my favorite for years! Not only beautiful and functional, they have butterfly space and orchid garden inside… people actually go early ahead of the flight to spend more time there.
Yamasakis groined vaults at STL Lambert came years before TWA. It could be argued Yamasakis jet age design had an even greater impact than TWA, influencing the overall design approach of Saarinen in TWA + Dulles and many other subsequent airports
Yep, I agree with you - Yamasaki's thin shell concrete design for the STL Lambert Terminal was constructed before Saarinen's designs for TWA and Dulles airports. He deserves some credit in influencing airport design as we know it now!
The ability to expand is one feature that wasn't mentioned. The Hartsfield pattern can be used to build a smaller initial configuration but if accommodated in the original site plan can be expanded easily.
I don't mind being in an airport for a while, as long as I do not have to: - run around in panic of being late - wait in line forever (check-in, security, and boarding, the trifecta of inefficiency) - be in an uncomfortable space, like in the middle of a noisy giant hall
A lot of new Chinese airports seem to follow this philosophy. Another i went through recently was Kunming. For the US, I do like SFO with the landside arranged in a ring with piers attached to it radiating out.
My fav has been the koh samui airport! Was so cute the shops had a great range and didn't get dull this paired with the outdoors and the design was beautiful!!
Kempegowda International Airport, Bengaluru. Gosh, none can beat this for sure! Changi Airport, SGP, CSMT Mumbai, Hamad int (Doha) and new Istanbul airport. Bengaluru airport won the best in competition for structure and design this year!! BENGALURU AIRPORT YOU BEAUTY!😍..
I may be called weird for this but I actually like the design of Atl Hartsfield's overall design concepts. There is a certain beauty when there is a functional design that works well and efficiently that often gets overlooked because its not appealing to the eye.
I used to use TWA terminal at JFK a lot. The one thing that I hated about it was that there were no ramps. One has (had) to lug suitcases up the stairs. Even the dining area was up a long set of stairs. It's like Saarinen didn't think it through enough to consider all of us with luggage. After a few times I tried to book flights that didn't use that terminal.
This is actually interesting because rollaboards werent invented/popularized till the late 1980s. So when the TWA terminal was built they probably didnt even think of it.
Loved this video! I could watch several more, maybe a series with an episode exploring one airport per video. I love flying and am amazed at the beauty of the world's best airports.
The TWA terminal by Saarinen at Idlewild in 1962 was preceded by the St. Louis terminal by Yamasaki in 1956 as the forerunner of modern airport design.
Satellite configuration is actually fine for hub airports where passengers stay inside the terminal to wait for their connecting. It's a very efficient use of land. Daxing airport's configuration creates lots of awkward triangular areas on the apron.
Thank you for this! My husband and I were just at Reagan airport (DCA) and discussing design vs efficiency of airports. Reagan airport has a very Grand Central Station feel. It is currently my favorite airport. I agree the ATL Hartfield is dull and boring!
Arriving in the middle of the night by car to Mumbai Airport is an experience. It has stunning architecture. I have never been so impressed by any other terminal than that. Gorgeous white slopes hold an immense roof.
Thank you for sharing your perspective on spaces that I tend to rush through without appreciating the design intent. I will be more aware and appreciative in the future.
Can you do a video on Singapores Airport? Also love a video on all the redevelopment of airports happening around the US. Especially NYC, SFO, Newark, and LAX.
I love airports. One of my favorites is Kansai (KIX) and was thrilled to see it mentioned. Now, I have to make a side trip to Beijing Daxing International Airport.
I love the look of KIX, but I’ve never had a longer security line in my life. It was many, many hours of waiting, though workers did come through the lines and call for passengers by name if their flights were about to depart.
I live in Atlanta so I’ve been in its airport many times, and I actually love getting to ride the plane train. Its such a smooth ride and every passenger has to use it, so you end up seeing so many different kinds of people going to so many different places, all in the same train which comes at a super high frequency (like 1 every minute). I also love seeing the planes come and go on the tarmac, like a new plane lands or takes off every 30 seconds. Sure, the interior design is lacking and it could go for an aesthetic upgrade, but I love my city’s airport anyways.
I've always have enjoyed ATL. The main terminal at STL used to be fun because it has much of the same arches that the TWA terminal at JFK does. However, once you get through security, not so much. Least favorite - actually hated - airport is Chicago O'Hare.
Actually there is a outdoor Chinese style garden at the end of each pier terminal in Daxing. Make sure you get to check them out if you ever travel to Daxing!
The best view at ATL is finding a window near the ends of one of the concourses, and watching planes take off or land continuously, often twice per minute. In that way, efficiency ends up being its own aesthetic.
completely agrees
Last time I was at the Denver airport (a very similar configuration to ATL) they even had outdoor patios at the end of the terminal you could sit in to watch planes take off...I guess we're not the only ones that recognize the beauty in this.
@@fordrollhaus9086Denver designed their airport like ATL because of the efficiency....even copied the subway train underneath
you can do that at any airport, doesn't change the fact the ATL airport is ugly
Mr Wyetzner is the David Attenborough of Architecture, I could listen to him forever. More of this content please AD. Love it!
Yessssss exactly!!
Totally agreed!! 🎉❤
I agree and Im deaf.
This is probably the most intelligent comment I've ever read on the internet.
Excellent. I am very glad to have watched this video.
I’ve been to Daxing airport, it’s absolutely amazing. I enjoyed so much wondering around it. Also, that’s the first time I could conveniently take a shower in an airport for free! And the way it is connected to the city infrastructure is just amazing. No need to take a car at all. Bravo!
I wish I have the opportunity to experience Daxing airport in the future. I went to Beijing 2 years ago and missed the opportunity both times due to incompatible flight schedules.
No need for car was not mentioned in this video but this is also contributing to the aesthetic experience!
This! I am currently visiting Beijing, came in through Daxing and the efficiency of being able to hop on that Daxing Express train straight into the city ($4usd, 25 minute journey) is just amazing. The train seats are way more comfortable than the flight too.
Yeah I really felt that convenience in Shanghai Pudong airport. Taking the Maglev to the city centre is a surreal experience and all for £5. China doesn't get enough credit in that regard.
Thoughts on Russian airports?
Kona, Hawaii. It feels like half the space is outdoors, which is marvellous. You're in paradise within seconds of steppping off the plane.
Huatulco in Mexico is another one like that. very cool airport.
Yes enjoyed kona
Madinah airport in Saudi Arabia also feels like much of that space is outside.
The Palm Springs airport is also like that...very airy and pleasant...
Long Beach California is another one with much outdoor space. KOA and LGB, however, handle a small fraction of the traffic that major hubs, like ATL do. Tough comparison.
My most favorite airport (so far) is Changi Airport Singapore. It’s seamlessly connected with all kind of private and public transport, function as a shopping center, public park, sightseeing area, souvenir shops, ughhh I cannot stop thinking about it, it’s just too perfect in my opinion, it’s checked all of my lists
and despite the big size it always gave me the cosy living room atmosphere!
Carpets floorings and spilt interconnecting terminals instead of being in just 1 main terminal.
Reduces the clutter upon the pickup/dropoff and departure/arrival process.
机场与各种私人和公共交通无缝衔接这不是最基本的吗？中国的机场都这样啊
Great airport but the airport walkways are all carpet. Insane design decision.
@@amazingnina5665 北美洲的机场大部分的公共交通都比较差，甚至有时候甚至没有。许多北美的旅客是在外国才第一次接触良好的公共交通。
Honestly, I'm one of those weirdos that LOVE every aspect of traveling by plane. I could spend hours sitting and watching the goings on outside the terminal as well as people watching inside. Saarinen very much embodied my excitement and love of the total experience of flying.
Same
I like airports too! I don't know why, they just feel great!!!
Me too! In just about any airport, there’s so much to see, whether you want to window shop or people-watch or plane-spot. Or I can just relax at the gate with a snack and enjoy my books or electronic devices and just chill out. I’m secretly excited when I get a longish layover at an interesting airport (as long as it isn’t too ridiculous, like overnight).
@@annabethwivell327 I've been known to drag my family to different airports just for the experience! IAD and MCO have been two of my favorite destinations (in the US). There's just something so exhilarating about the buzz of seeing people and planes converge...And if the architecture is stunning, that heightens the experience even more!
Once i took a flight with a 10 hour layover just to hanghout at the airport 😂😅
Barajas in Spain is the airport that has stuck in my mind the most. I've only been there once but every once in a while I will randomly remember the shapes and the slow gradient on the inside of the roof
definitely a nice airport. but only T4. flew in july to Terminal 1, which was quite underwhelming and taxi times are eternal to that terminal.
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The taxiing takes forever, though 🫠
Hands down Daxing airport. After landing there I felt like exploring the place so I didn't just get my bags and leave. The place is so inviting and modern, so efficient and well organized, it's captivating. Even after a very long flight I just couldn't get enough of it, no mater how tired I was, I had to walk around and see the zen gardens and the other relaxing areas that are inside this amazing structure. I can't wait to visit again.
China's train stations are designed like airports too, with the upper level for departing passengers & the lower one for arriving ones, plus security & ID checks at the entrance & during ticketing
Excellent video! One thing to add: Many airports around the world are becoming heavily focused on retail. Some feel more like shopping malls that they happen to park planes at. It becomes a bit obnoxious, really - many airports are now purposefully creating labyrinthine mazes of retail (especially duty-free shops) that you have to navigate through before you can find the gate.
I agree! Trying to battle my way through the folks hanging at the bars & restaurants as I try to make my connection!
Apparently Heathrow is one of the top airports for extracting the most amount of money out of passengers, it was one of their primary goals. Maybe being privately owned has a lot to do with that.
Copenhagen reminded me of a mall.
All in the name of security theatre.
Combined with not telling passengers their gate until the last minute
I stayed at the TWA hotel last year and it was amazing - stepping back in time - I loved it - I’m so glad that it wasn’t torn down during the ‘we don’t care about the past’ 1970’s
My first experience of American airports was back in the early 90's when I arrived at ATL, I have to say I didn't realise until later that it was the busiest airport, whilst the loss of views when travelling down to the train to the main terminal, it was fairly relaxed, which I actually appreciate more than a nice visual aesthetic.
ATL’s efficiency is what makes it so beautiful. There is no doubt that, even with its upgrades, it is not an aesthetically pleasing complex. But it is hard not to marvel at the sheer volume of people, baggage, and airplanes traveling through that airport at all hours. I know most love to hate it, but it will always hold a special place in my heart.
Architec vs Engineer lol
As a business traveler I want IN and OUT and somewhere to maybe get some snacks, a book, or a meal. I am not going to buy a designer suit, or luggage, or lingerie (for wife). In that regard I appreciate ATL. Even though PHX is built on a similar concept its and airport I despise because that 45 minute walk to change planes is common there and the only way between terminals is a walkway conveyer speedway. They really need a train. And don't even get me started on LAX or JFK.
Anyone who is designing an airport, MUST study ATL.
Everything about it is pure logic...except one thing. They named the first concourse "T" (for terminal), then it goes A, B, C, D, E.
This always confuses first-timers.
@@markleavitt4477 the most confusing is international flights aren't just out of the International terminal
It's not for nothing that so many new terminals copy ATL's concept.
I enjoy spending time at the airport before takeoff. It gets me in the travel mood and mindset. My favorite airport is Singapore Changi and the Jewel. Absolutely love the art and living plants throughout. My least favorite is Seattle unless you're flying International.
My opinion of Seattle is the opposite lmao. I actually really like Seattle’s domestic experience but the international terminal might as well be Mordor with the terrible food options and nonexistent shops and other things to distract yourself with while waiting
The carpet at Changi does make it better to experience for sure
@@hassanabdulaziz7275the carpet makes it much harder to pull your luggages. It's like paving roads with carpet and driving your car over it. Looks nice but impractical
I disagree. Changi is overrated. The carpets make it absolutely difficult to drag your luggages. Doing security at the boarding gates and then trapping you in a room without toilets after that means you can't bring any drinks you have bought at the concourse onto the aircraft (many other airports don't have this problem as they do security checks before passport checks). If I want to bring onboard a local Singaporean drink, I can't. And then they trap you in a room without toilets after security and before boarding, which means that you can only go to the toilet once you are onboard, not ideal when you are moving along the aisle against the flow of traffic of people boarding
@@ZachTamyou sure? It's not reallt that hard
PDX in Oregon!!!
The latest remodel is absolutely amazing and
incredible - you have to see it to believe you're actually in an airport -- a total experience -- looks and smells like the PNW!
And they're not done... working on another phase and I want to see that when it's completed!!
Finally had a leg thru PDX last week. Looks great!
11:33 my heart dropped for a few seconds
i thought i was the only one
i thought this video was about to escalate veryyy quickly 😭
I recently went through LaGuardia Terminal B and it was great. Spacious, clean, simple, not busy.
Such a dramatic improvement!
Wow. I’ll have to see it again, it used to be a horror
Singapore's Changi Airport has long been my favourite in the world, it's incredible,
Yeah its interior decoration is outstanding, but this video is talking about the architecture
@@yxeanget-any Yep, amazing interior (Jewel!) but the layout is bad-ish -- only Terminal 1 has direct access to both runways while T2 and T3 have only one direct runway access leading to long taxiing half of the time. And T4 is the worst, located at the wrong end of one of the runways so long taxi all the time!
Changi has probably the most beautiful and cool smoking lounge in the world at Terminal 3 airside. Large, air conditioned, non-smoky with a Zen Garden,mini waterfall, fountain, greeneries and rivulets with amazing view of the runway and planes. So unforgettable that I actually chose flights that lands at T3
Followed closely by Inchon,Seoul airport. Kulalampur has just opened a new wing, it is supposed to be grand. Hope to go there soon.
@@yxeanget-anynot just its interior deco but its technologically advanced engineering. Its a marvel
TWA was the first stop I made after arriving in the US. I was astonished by how beautiful and comfortable a terminal can be, representing what New York is to me for a long time.
As an airport planner, I think you did a great job on the video. One comment is that Atlanta is not the only airport to serve more than 100 million annual passengers. Beijing Capital International Airport also achieved this before Daxing opened. (Personal pet peeve: never say tarmac. It is ramp or apron.) Thanks again!
Love hearing Michael's take on anything but especially airports and the different concepts! Side note, he did not have to roast ATL's lack of aesthetics like that, but at the same time I completely agree lol
They put that light up rain cover over the terminal parkways.... But yeah, she's not winning any beauty contests.
I appreciate SFO for having art exhibits all over the place! Arriving early allowed us to enjoy a Pixar Toy Story retrospective ❤
I dream of one day going to Singapore and specifically spending time in their crazy fancy airport :)
Schiphol is my favourite airport/ train station. You can even book a time slot to go through security!
It really is a nice airport. It feels like a mall.
Yeah bc a year before the time slots the wait for security was like 3-6 hours. And they still haven't fixed the baggage handling issues. It's an atrocious airport.
Super confusing layout imo. Didn’t like it
I hated it the first time - you have to walk forever, and it was sometimes confusing on where you go next. But the second time through we loved it - things were more familiar and we realized the walks were long, but everything flowed nicely. And staying at the Hilton in the airport the night before our departure much more stress free.
“You don’t linger and look at the architecture”
I do. I know a few other people who do too.
Like me!
me too
I’m a Mechanical Engineer at a small consulting firm in California. This sort of content providing architectural insight is so cool. I am lucky to have been designed part of a few unique buildings & hope I get to do many more.
I like Denver. The roof which has received a lot of criticism is actually quite cool.
it does function well: i'll agree!! still not sure what those weird scenes are trying to be in the pit/to the subways.. looks like a dry fountain?... I dunno---cheap looking, whatever the attempt..
Seriously, do you have a magic pass that lets you get through security in under 1 hour? Because, please share the magic. I really dislike Denver other than the fact you can quickly catch a train to escape the airport.
@@x--. just arrive at 5 am.
Yes, the ceilings at the check in are very creative, and after you get off the train, you enter a VERY spacious concourse. I do feel that Denver airport is underrated.
@@Spaceboii-23 yes, the TSA granting you so much time to gaze at the ceiling while you wait in line is so kind. True heroes of aviation architecture.
Changi Singapore is a striking example of form and function, i.e. esthetics and efficiencies.
One advantage of flying into atlanta a few times is you will be able to say "The Next Stop is for the D Gates, D as in David" in several languages.
How can the D not be Delta?
@christopherchurch9874 ex-ATLien here. I always wondered the same. However in my opinion is for 2 reasons: 1 don't confuse people that delta only uses D gates 2- It would considered "free advertising" for delta? Hahahaa that's me making assumptions lol
I'm waiting until they build out to M, so we can hear "M as in Mancy"
@@christopherchurch9874 Even the air traffic controllers use "Dixie" instead of "Delta" when using the phonetic alphabet. Way too many things are already Delta at ATL.
I'd love to see more videos on transportation and infrastructure like this one! Even more on other airports, since TWA isn't a working terminal anymore.
It is a working hotel, though! Worth a visit if you fly through JFK
You can still walk through the tubes to get to jetBlue.
I’m probably one of the few people who loves LAX. While the inefficiency of the “horseshoe” is frustrating, the terminals are getting better each time I visit. The Theme Building is such an iconic structure, which few airports can boast. My least favourite is Dubai. I can’t put my finger on the actual problem, but it’s always a relief to get out of there.
I loved Changi airport in Singapore, so exquisite and exotic but comfy at the same time. Given the fact that most travelers expectation peaks at its highest when they arrived at the airport, that one really hit the spot.
Balancing aesthetics with efficiency is crucial for enhancing the traveler experience. I’d love to see more examples of airports that manage to do both well!!
Detroit Airport-McNamara Terminal. Simple, beautiful, and efficient. Also, plenty of natural light!
Edit: I am no architect but the way they design McNamara is both efficient and aesthetically pleasing, IMO. I always enjoy going back to Michigan because of the airport. The Sky Lounge is amazing as well!
Do you seriously think that they can compete with China?😆
Cmon, the ugliest metro station in China looks far better than the most futuristic american airport
you tried to sneak detroit into in architecture conversation 😂
Agreed, it’s a very visually appealing terminal, probably one of the best in North America. Detroit is underrated for architecture, as mentioned in the video, Saarinen designed the GM tech center and a couple other sites like Cranbrook. Also can’t forget Albert Kahn. And the beautiful art deco buildings downtown.
and the best fountain ever
McNamara concourse A is a mile long! That starfish design would be better!!
Daxing is my favorite airport, it gives you exciting experience!
Love the Daxing model!! Live in NYC and while the airports are upgraded and more modern now they’re almost worse than before because it takes so much longer through shopping areas to get to the gate (LGA in particular). Wish more design thought went into passenger experience vs maximizing passenger revenue
The downside to the satellite concept is there's only one security checkpoint for all terminals, which is why security lines for DEN and ATL are super long compared to other airports.
Thank you! I'm saying... the security experience at DEN and ATL is just some dark version of waiting in line. Shouting, shuffling, uncomfortable, unclear, confusing, and just so slow.
This is a design error! You can have satellite-style check-in, too. No need for a single bottleneck (unless making passengers miserable is your plan, as TSA seems to like it :-} ).
KLIA in Malaysia has a satellite terminal. There's a small security checkpoint in the main terminal but it's very efficient because they only scan the bags. Then there's the full security checkpoint at every gate in both main and satellite terminal
@@x--.DEN is awful. So confusing. ATL is great. You just need to spring for Clear. I lived in Atlanta over 20 years and was in and out of that airport countless times. Clear really makes it a breeze. I now live in NYC. LaGuardia is simple too, but JFK is a pain.
Atl, at least for the precheck side has plenty of machine capacity, but the usually have less than half the machines on due to a lack of employees
I love airports. I'd go just to stroll around them if it weren't for security.
What's bad is how awful the customer service is by airlines. Mainly the stress of showing up with a purchased ticket and not really knowing if you'll make your flight due to lines and overselling, etc.
That's another advantage to ATL: once you clear security, you have access to all the other Concourses.
Asia doesn't have "Security Theater" no problem wandering around the airport. Changing and Inchon encourage it.
Daxing Airport is a true architectural gem. I had an amazing experience there. Rest in peace, Zaha Hadid.
11:34 that drawing made me hold my breath for a second
DEN should get a mention for both the terminal and radial runways joined by well thought out taxiways
Den is the largest airport in the United States by land area.
This guy could make a 10-part series about the architecture of ant farms and I would binge watch every single one and then leave a comment asking for more. And honestly, I don’t even care about architecture but he makes me want to care.
"The moment you get out to your taxi, Uber or Lyft." You can tell he is American by not even mentioning public transport.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
@@vcalblasPersonally, I thought his accent gave it away immediately.
As someone who regularly uses public transit, why take it to the airport with a suitcase?
The moment you get out to your taxi, taxi or taxi
@@rtdoninwhy not? There are trains that go inside the airport so you don’t even need to walk outside other than to the station
This guy clearly has had one too many layovers in ATL and is taking it personally 🤣🤣
Singapore Changi Airport is impressive too
Hamad, Mumbai, Bengaluru, Hong Kong, Tokyo HND, Incheon among others as well.
Sure if you like spiders in your bags.
@@Dayvit78 in singapore changi? whats the reference
yeah I don't understand how you can make a video on airport architecture and now even mention Changi????
@@lelo9923 as much as Singapore airport is amazing, it isn't very useful as an example in this discussion.
The video is using two extreme examples of aesthetics vs efficiency in building design. Singapore airport is somewhere in the middle, and it's an incredible airport because of it's systems design, automation, additional features, etc. It's architectural design isn't particularly unique as compared to other airports.
Whereas the airports mentioned here would perfectly showcase the points made in the video.
Tampa Int'l is my favorite domestic airport. It's a fine combination of efficiency, shopping, amenities and aesthetics.
I recently flew into PHX. Our plane arrived at gate F14 in Terminal 3. We had to walk the length on the terminal to get to the escalators to go down to Baggage Claim level. Then we walked back the entire length of the terminal to get to baggage claim. We then had to walk the entire length of the terminal with our bags to get back to the escalators that would take us up one level above the gates to the "Sky Train" that would take us to the Rental Car Center. This is by far the least efficient for people airport I have ever been through.
new LAX is not any better.
Can always just fly private in to a smaller regional airport. No waiting on bags or your car.
Mr Wyetzner …extraordinary presentation by this erudite of the architecture world. We are introduced to the beauty of airport architecture in such simple way that makes sense to everyone lucky enough to stumble on one of his awe inspiring presentations. Thank you. 🙋♂️
Three of the largest airports in the US have the same design issues, which make them a nightmare for travelers and airlines: Los Angeles (LAX), New York (JFK) and Miami (MIA). Runways along the property perimeters and gates stretching around the core which contain parking, ticketing and baggage. They need to adopt the Atlanta concept by moving the parking and terminal functions off the airport property, freeing up land for planes and passenger gates. Build the linear passenger structures like Atlanta, but with enhanced esthetics, connecting them by trains the travel over the building rooftops, with bridges spanning over taxiways and eventually reach the terminal. Provide bold, clear graphics that don't require understanding English to guide the passengers to their various destinations (Using letters A,B,C,D,E,F and colors red, orange, yellow, green, blue, and purple). Keep it simple while making it attractive and inviting. Make the airport experience as exciting an adventure as the traveling itself!
Oh gosh, you like Atlanta's airport? Really? Felt like around every corner was a chokepoint. That said LAX is moving toward exactly what you describe, hopefully they do a better job than Atlanta did because I dislike flying in there so much. Rather a dentist appointment than a flight to ATL
Incidentally, LAX and MIA are two airports I avoid whenever possible.
It's a LOT of walking, but at least LAX is finally connected behind security. 😊
AD... I love this guy! More videos with him!
I think a difference between something like ATL and some major Pacific airports has to do with layover. It's rare that I'm in ATL longer than an hour between flights. You don't want to go do or see anything in the airport because really you need to just get to your next gate and MAYBE have 15 mins for a quick bite. On the other hand, when flying thru Asia and the Pacific, and I often have six hour or even 24 hour layovers, and then, yeah, having a big nice airport with lots of things to see and do becomes a thing. ATL does have some little art exhibits and things and in 20 years of flying I've never had time to see them.
Because I live here I am partial to Hartsfield. I love the airport because I lived near it and I loved to hear the sound of planes taking off. Plus it is a beautiful chaotic symphony and once you understand the layout you will appreciate it more….I actually love getting on the plane train, and the escalators.
The new main terminal at PDX is beautiful! Take a look at Portland International.
During the late 60's, we would go on a date to the PHL observation deck and watch planes take off and land. It was thrilling. My first plane ride was on Eastern Airlines and we wore dresses & suits. My favorite airports now are the small ones. Easy arrivals & departures, no crowds.
new Portland international Airport in Oregon is beautiful too
No it’s not it’s ugly af down to it’s carpets
I would love for Paris' airport to be explained and analized this way! it is such a strange building and every time I have been inside of it it feels like im traveling through 20 completely different constructions
Chek Lap Kok for the win! I love Norman Foster as an architect. The building is so spacious and innovative.
SLC & PDX are USA airport game-changers… Beautiful Airports.
Only if you fly delta in slc. The walk to terminal b is awful. Extremely stupid design.
@@dark_winter8238big facts on this!
My favorite airports are the small regional ones. Some can be aesthetically pleasing, like Santa Barbara, but they're mostly convenient and calm compared to monstrosities like DFW.
My experience at SB in 1988 involved getting off the plane outside, then down the portable steps and onto the tarmac, and then a short walk into the terminal. I'm not sure if it's the same now. It did feel like a calm space, like a bus stop in a small town.
They have jet bridges now
Singapore Changi airport has been my favorite for years! Not only beautiful and functional, they have butterfly space and orchid garden inside… people actually go early ahead of the flight to spend more time there.
Yamasakis groined vaults at STL Lambert came years before TWA. It could be argued Yamasakis jet age design had an even greater impact than TWA, influencing the overall design approach of Saarinen in TWA + Dulles and many other subsequent airports
Yep, I agree with you - Yamasaki's thin shell concrete design for the STL Lambert Terminal was constructed before Saarinen's designs for TWA and Dulles airports. He deserves some credit in influencing airport design as we know it now!
The ability to expand is one feature that wasn't mentioned. The Hartsfield pattern can be used to build a smaller initial configuration but if accommodated in the original site plan can be expanded easily.
These are so much better than those Wired let-me-ask-Twitter-what-would-take-2-seconds-to-Google videos
I don't mind being in an airport for a while, as long as I do not have to:
- run around in panic of being late
- wait in line forever (check-in, security, and boarding, the trifecta of inefficiency)
- be in an uncomfortable space, like in the middle of a noisy giant hall
A lot of new Chinese airports seem to follow this philosophy. Another i went through recently was Kunming.
For the US, I do like SFO with the landside arranged in a ring with piers attached to it radiating out.
My fav has been the koh samui airport! Was so cute the shops had a great range and didn't get dull this paired with the outdoors and the design was beautiful!!
Porto (Portugal) airport is a great example of a masterfully done airport.
All about the crash games here started on a whim now I can’t stop the excitement just builds 🚀
Hong Kong International airport - efficient and still looks modern after 25 years!
It would have been interesting to see more about the integration of airports into public transits, with the metro, trains, buses etc
TWA terminal reminds me of the movie. Catch me if you can by Leonardo de Carpio, so it's an amazing picturesque terminal.
Kempegowda International Airport, Bengaluru. Gosh, none can beat this for sure! Changi Airport, SGP, CSMT Mumbai, Hamad int (Doha) and new Istanbul airport. Bengaluru airport won the best in competition for structure and design this year!!
BENGALURU AIRPORT YOU BEAUTY!😍..
I’ll be sure to come back to this video once I open my own airport. 😊😂
you should also visit the kempegowda airport t2 in bengaluru. the interior is made completely with a bamboo facade and is really amazing
I would definitely include an honorable mention for Doha and Changi airports.
I may be called weird for this but I actually like the design of Atl Hartsfield's overall design concepts. There is a certain beauty when there is a functional design that works well and efficiently that often gets overlooked because its not appealing to the eye.
I used to use TWA terminal at JFK a lot. The one thing that I hated about it was that there were no ramps. One has (had) to lug suitcases up the stairs. Even the dining area was up a long set of stairs. It's like Saarinen didn't think it through enough to consider all of us with luggage. After a few times I tried to book flights that didn't use that terminal.
This is actually interesting because rollaboards werent invented/popularized till the late 1980s. So when the TWA terminal was built they probably didnt even think of it.
Loved this video! I could watch several more, maybe a series with an episode exploring one airport per video. I love flying and am amazed at the beauty of the world's best airports.
I was hoping he'd talk about Singapore's airport. It's so beautiful. 🤩
Exactly
I only remember the carpets, it's so pleasant to get to here and there comfortably.
Its is in South Asia ..........It doesnt belong to their world. It s only we admire their structures
@@sraamcit’s SOUTH EAST asia, NOT South Asia
The TWA terminal by Saarinen at Idlewild in 1962 was preceded by the St. Louis terminal by Yamasaki in 1956 as the forerunner of modern airport design.
Satellite configuration is actually fine for hub airports where passengers stay inside the terminal to wait for their connecting. It's a very efficient use of land. Daxing airport's configuration creates lots of awkward triangular areas on the apron.
Okay, so you arrive at the gate, take an underground train to the terminal, then you have your documents processed and take another underground train?
That's not necessary for domestic flights nor international flights in transfer zones @annasolovyeva1013
Thank you for this! My husband and I were just at Reagan airport (DCA) and discussing design vs efficiency of airports. Reagan airport has a very Grand Central Station feel. It is currently my favorite airport.
I agree the ATL Hartfield is dull and boring!
Hong Kong International and Singapore Changi takes the cake for me.
Thank you for mentioning Madrid airport! It’s truly amazing!
Arriving in the middle of the night by car to Mumbai Airport is an experience. It has stunning architecture. I have never been so impressed by any other terminal than that. Gorgeous white slopes hold an immense roof.
As usual, you’ve provided us with an amazing presentation. Was also hoping to get your opinion on Changi!
Thank you for sharing your perspective on spaces that I tend to rush through without appreciating the design intent. I will be more aware and appreciative in the future.
Can you do a video on Singapores Airport? Also love a video on all the redevelopment of airports happening around the US. Especially NYC, SFO, Newark, and LAX.
I love airports. One of my favorites is Kansai (KIX) and was thrilled to see it mentioned. Now, I have to make a side trip to Beijing Daxing International Airport.
I love the look of KIX, but I’ve never had a longer security line in my life. It was many, many hours of waiting, though workers did come through the lines and call for passengers by name if their flights were about to depart.
Omg yay this is so awesome!! I was hoping for more videos with him! Thank you so much for sharing insight 😄😄
Love Kansas City’s new airport. Not an architectural wonder but generous interior spaces, art and fairly short walks. Lots of amenities.
I live in Atlanta so I’ve been in its airport many times, and I actually love getting to ride the plane train. Its such a smooth ride and every passenger has to use it, so you end up seeing so many different kinds of people going to so many different places, all in the same train which comes at a super high frequency (like 1 every minute). I also love seeing the planes come and go on the tarmac, like a new plane lands or takes off every 30 seconds. Sure, the interior design is lacking and it could go for an aesthetic upgrade, but I love my city’s airport anyways.
TWA Hotel is a MUST SEE for any person who has time to fill at JFK. Hop on the train and head over to terminal 5. One of the great sites in NYC.
Never been in it as a hotel yet but as a kid I was in the terminal.
I've always have enjoyed ATL. The main terminal at STL used to be fun because it has much of the same arches that the TWA terminal at JFK does. However, once you get through security, not so much. Least favorite - actually hated - airport is Chicago O'Hare.
Zaha Hadid’s fire station is not in Switzerland, it is in Weil am Rhein in Germany. 10:11
It’s an American Magazine what else would you expect…
My favourite airport as a passenger is ZRH
but as an architect one of my favourite designs is DXB.
I love Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta Int’l Airport KATL!!! Such a master of efficiency with its terminal configuration and taxiway system!
Actually there is a outdoor Chinese style garden at the end of each pier terminal in Daxing. Make sure you get to check them out if you ever travel to Daxing!
My mind went in a completely different direction @11:34
Singapore Changi is my FAVORITE airport ever!!
Dulles is a great balance of efficiency and beauty
But then you get to United concourse...
Most of an Airport's efficiency comes down to staffing. Waiting ages in Passport control because only 2/8 of the desks are manned can be a nightmare.