We're Growing ANCIENT Vegetable Varieties - Here's Why

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  • Growing ancient varieties in the vegetable garden can be not only a great thing from a flavor perspective because they are so unique, but also from a biological perspective. Ancient varieties provide so much biodiversity and genetics that aren't found in today's varieties.
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  • @chernagast6754
    @chernagast6754 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have wild Galapagos tomatoes. They have self-seeded and come back year after year even in Illinois, and everything loves them - me, the chickens, the deer, the birds - everything!

  • @WMHhomestead
    @WMHhomestead ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It amazes me how after so many years of making gardening videos, you are still so passionate and enthusiastic! Thank you for your dedication!

  • @MynewTennesseeHome
    @MynewTennesseeHome ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm doing my own land race type thing. I plant gobs of different type tomatoes together and save seeds. The next year I wean out any that don't thrive so they don't mix back in. Any voluteers get a chance to join the club. I've gotten some unique results. I do this with beans, peppers, mustard, collards, winter squash and this year maybe cabbage. I love this stuff!

  • @latauarobison6521
    @latauarobison6521 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m growing about 60 varities of tomatoes this year. My nephew got me a 45 tomato variety seed pack plus I grew the ones I loved before! It’s been a challenge and a gift! Lol

  • @languagelynnie
    @languagelynnie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Luke is nerding out! YAY!

  • @lauriedavis4045
    @lauriedavis4045 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm very curious how landrace variety tomatoes (for example) compare in nutritional value to 'modern' varieties. Are they higher in vitamins A and C, lycopenes? Were they more healthful? 🤔

  • @jenniferrescott1149
    @jenniferrescott1149 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great history/science lesson , Luke😊

  • @memph7610
    @memph7610 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm growing rocoto peppers which look pretty wild. They still have lush, dense foliage, and relatively large leaves, but they have longer branches and fewer fruit than the more domesticated peppers.
    There's some spindly pepper that wound up in my seed packet too. It was supposed to be a bell pepper, but it looks like some small, elongated fruit, and very small leaves and long stems.
    Another thing I've noticed with the bell peppers, is that the stems are often kind of weak. The stems are thick, and capable of supporting the weight of the fruits, although the fruits are often closer to the plant's centre of gravity, which helps, however the bell pepper stems aren't as well lignified and more prone to snapping.

  • @TamiMarieIsAGardener
    @TamiMarieIsAGardener ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So awesome that y'all can grow vegtables in July!
    My okra and sw potatoes love this heat everything else are done in this heat.

  • @terryl.9302
    @terryl.9302 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Landrace etc Very Exciting. A return to blueprint + gibberellic acid after growth begins does indeed bring another mated strain (=dipole) back to health. *Unbelievable until you see it for yourself. Some stress along the way is recommended to bring forth the dormant weaknesses. Thx Luke for being on top of this development. --xxoo 🍒

  • @jessicaleighdargaclark4536
    @jessicaleighdargaclark4536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luke and Team - Have you heard of Bevin Cohen from SmallHouseFarm? He's based in Sanford MI and has a book called "The Complete Guide to Seed and Nut Oils: Growing, Foraging, and Pressing" and he has great information on why commercial seed and nut oils are bad versus the kind you would do on your own. I know you don't really do "interviews" so to speak, but I would love to see a conversation between you two!!

  • @HGrimes
    @HGrimes ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is fascinating! I was trying to find info on landrace varieties when I was seed shopping last winter and found so little on the topic, so thank you for covering it.

  • @BlendAndConquer
    @BlendAndConquer ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Bro, you’re super enthusiastic about the history of plants. It’s cool to see. I really never thought about how amazing and actually smart plants have been through the course of evolution. And how so much of it depended on whether it needed humans to survive or to be completely neglected in nature. I guess home gardens can help in small ways, even the ones who have nothing but ONE plant still alive. That one is going to have some special genetics.

  • @Barefootchicken
    @Barefootchicken ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hope this will lead to new seeds in your store❤️ awesome video Luke!

  • @Melinda_WA_US
    @Melinda_WA_US ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Tess's tomato, I grow it like a bush and only prune for air flow. They are my favorite garden snack.

  • @angelpate4082
    @angelpate4082 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been into landrace for the last couple years and I love it.

  • @bmiles4131
    @bmiles4131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peppers like shade here in Texas. Have to give lots of water in 100F but not the bird peppers (chiltepequin). I grow them for the birds because they’re too hot for me.

  • @robertavillella6485
    @robertavillella6485 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was an incredible video! Thank you for putting it together, Luke. Its amazing to see how far along we have come in this area. I don't thinks it's all good, mind you, lol. Nonetheless, fascinating to learn more about this. I love your content. You always have such different topics. Kudos to you! 😎😁

  • @joeyhardin1288
    @joeyhardin1288 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    GREAT CONTENT!!! Thank you. I grow a lot of heirloom varieties but none like these. I will next year! God Bless and stay safe.

  • @Gardeningchristine
    @Gardeningchristine ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Black nightshade. I bought my house 3 years ago and googled it. Google mistook it for deadly nightshade so I’ve been trying to eradicate it. But I found out it’s edible and kinda tasty. Grows like a weed 😂

    • @Enochphilw
      @Enochphilw ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're like tiny black tomatoes but super sweet.

    • @Youdontknowmeson1324
      @Youdontknowmeson1324 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There black nightshade solanum nigrum and are edible very nice .😊

    • @D1115_
      @D1115_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I ate just one black nightshade and ended up with explosive results a few hours later

    • @Gardeningchristine
      @Gardeningchristine ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@D1115_ oof. They have to be completely black, no green left at all.

  • @lorrigierman7089
    @lorrigierman7089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating video! Thanks for sharing with us.

  • @joesqudy
    @joesqudy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very intriguing and exciting Luke. I like the mini history lessons you give while making us better gardeners.
    🍅🥒🌶️🫑🥕🥬🧅🥦🥔🥕
    Thank you. ❌⭕️🙏🏽♥️

  • @JuxstLer
    @JuxstLer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg you had 666 likes when I got here. I fixed it ofcourse...always give a thumbs up...long time fan....just wanted to say. I love what your doing..
    .like I said long time fan...so I get tired of watching garden channels that repeat videos they have done. I also understand & respect the reason for doing so. However this year (I imagine weather may be some of the reason) you have done some very creative & useful videos. Entertaining as well. Love your direction. Your still #1 garden channel & I dont see that changing.
    Btw random question (dont ask me why) but how's your wife's singing? Has she ever sang "Bad Boys".....jw random question..😉
    Oooo one request before I digress.
    Any chance you could have your daughter sing bad bugs? I just think it would be awesome.
    Grow Big & Grow at Home!

  • @lauriedavis4045
    @lauriedavis4045 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It makes so much sense to utilize the ancient varieties. I mean, what's endurance worth?

  • @lisamorris4232
    @lisamorris4232 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've grown ground cherries which are native to South and Central America also in the tomatillo family. Yum! 😋

    • @Gardeningchristine
      @Gardeningchristine ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Trying growing them this year. Interesting flavor but they grow easily enough. I’ll probably grow them again next year.

    • @Youdontknowmeson1324
      @Youdontknowmeson1324 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have cold hardy perenial ground cherries native to my area called clammy gooseberry and I have wild Chinese cape goosebrries called Chinese lanterns which considered invansive in my area but had edible orange cape gooseberries. When I went to Nevada I saw tons of wild desert cape goosebrries with weird looking fruits growing near wild desert tobacco, wild rosemary and edible wild cactus.

  • @TheRINOShow
    @TheRINOShow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like growing Everglades Tomato. The wife doesnt like them so much, but they go great in most dishes.

  • @raychie27
    @raychie27 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I grow wild arugula, wild tepary beans, and a mix of landrace beans. I hope to grow some landrace tomatoes at some point to breed with my favorite tomato varieties for better disease and heat resistance.

    • @strawberryseed1886
      @strawberryseed1886 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Be prepared to have very tall supports for the tomatoes. I grew them this year for the first time. I just had to prune them. They were over 6 feet tall. I was using normal tomato cages. They twisted together and became a huge mass. Very tasty, though! And they’re continuing to bloom in over 100 F heat.

    • @Youdontknowmeson1324
      @Youdontknowmeson1324 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have wild arugula perenial kind called slyvettia arugula, I have wild perenial kidney beans but they died and I have one annual perenial sand bean. There is members of lathyrus genus which are moderately toxic they make wild peas and beans some species are edible cooked like the beach pea that grows around here and the everlasting perenial sweet pea has edible shoots but both species can be toxic if eaten wrong cooked etc.

  • @saramasters1804
    @saramasters1804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am in Florida and always grow Seminole Pumpkins, Everglades Tomatoes, wild radishes, and creeping cucumbers (Melothria Pendula). No matter what domesticated varieties I am growing in my garden, I always have those four.

    • @saramasters1804
      @saramasters1804 ปีที่แล้ว

      Each of those produces delightful fruit, for sure. But the main reason I grow them is because they drive the local bees wild.

  • @dbrant8903
    @dbrant8903 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I trust you, as long as it's not bioengineered or GMO I will buy it from you!!

  • @dianaspy6733
    @dianaspy6733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information! I always learn something new! Thanks!🎉❤😊

  • @HomemakerSuzy
    @HomemakerSuzy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have giant Crimson growing in mine 😏, but also Kajari melons, I think 5 or more types of basil....lots of things!

  • @lauriedavis4045
    @lauriedavis4045 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely love how you geek out on SCIENCE. 😎

  • @dalegaa4094
    @dalegaa4094 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting. I have grown Good King Henry for many years, also a wild arugula.

  • @kimmcdonagh6756
    @kimmcdonagh6756 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting. I learned domething new! Thanks!

  • @amandamimic2725
    @amandamimic2725 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually a pretty good illustration of the Baramin model. You can breed out traits and select for useful ones based on what is desired, but if you breed out things you want, you need to reacquire them. You might get a lucky mutation but in practice it doesn't really happen- you need to find the genes in a relative who still has them. And without GMOing it you need to get the trait from the related plants- pepper to pepper or tomato to tomato but not plum to tomato nor from carrot to pepper.
    The evolutionary prediction would by contrast use more mutations for novel traits, whereas the Baramin model asserts that the potential traits of a family are already set and can only be removed over time.

  • @jeannamcgregor9967
    @jeannamcgregor9967 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Exactly. We don't want to be stuck growing only varieties of food that ship well. 🤨

  • @sparky6086
    @sparky6086 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I grow "Everglades" tomatoes. They're marble sized & produce the most by weight than any of my other tomatoes. Disease nor pest bother them at all.
    They grow wild in Florida, but I don't know, if thier lineage is all wild, or if they descended from domesticated varieties?
    I grow them in central Alabama, & I get a lot of volunteer plants along with the seedlings, I plant. They're sweet & are a good general use tomato. 25 of them, mayonnaise, salt, & bread make a great sandwich!

    • @Youdontknowmeson1324
      @Youdontknowmeson1324 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is other wild tomatoes called galagos tomatoes heirloom reviews grows and breed wild tomatoes for fun.

  • @seedy-waney-bonnie4906
    @seedy-waney-bonnie4906 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the info. Thank you.

  • @craighalle7892
    @craighalle7892 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great and very interesting, Luke. I was wondering how many aliens you've run into. I think I've seen a few, but they seemed a lot like us until they boarded their vessel and took off. HA! I have lots of tomato plants that come back every year. I only see them mid to the end of June. The ones that are where I don't want them, I try to move to the tomato bed. This year, I had a tomato and potato come up 6 inches apart in bed I haven't used for a few years. I am leaving them there just to see what happens. May the Lord keep blessing you and yours, Luke. By the way I checked on my close out order which hasn't arrived yet for more than 2 weeks and found out there were thousands of other orders which is why it is taking awhile. Guess you really didn't need my help closing out last year's seed stick. It's worth the wait, though.

    • @user-pb8bp6sr2u
      @user-pb8bp6sr2u 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have several volunteer potatoes as well, and just transplanted a volunteer tomato. I typically have several volunteer tomatoes in the rabbit yard as well. What I like about volunteers is that they are hardy!

  • @hoosierpioneer
    @hoosierpioneer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you sell landrace seeds?

  • @smithpianoservicing3421
    @smithpianoservicing3421 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2 questions:
    1) was that your giant crimson you showed?
    2) what is the closest available tomato seed we can find to a wild tomato?

    • @kacheek9101
      @kacheek9101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Everglades tomatoes are fairly wild; love these little guys in my garden

  • @Notable2Nikki
    @Notable2Nikki ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fascinating. It is crazy to see the seeds of the ancient/wild bananas. I cannot imagine eating around those massive seeds!

    • @Youdontknowmeson1324
      @Youdontknowmeson1324 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have cold hardy bannana that is hardy to zone 5/6 outside it’s hardy Michigan to Canada to southern Maine. There is also pink bananas that are also hardy and musa inegens the worlds largest tropical banna is also really cool. There is blue bananas to.

  • @IAMGiftbearer
    @IAMGiftbearer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting. I wonder if Cimmaron Lettuce is one of these varieties. I have heard it described as an old variety of Romaine.

  • @michellephillips4484
    @michellephillips4484 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was such a great video. I love looking how different everything looks. This years was tomatoes I added 8 types and every plant looks different. I love it because now I look at the plant and I am like this is this type and this type. And I have one tomatoe that is making smaller then grapes. So now I am thinking it Must be closely related to that current tomato. ❤

  • @Heartfeltdesigns54
    @Heartfeltdesigns54 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always. Was wondering where to purchase these landrace varieties?

  • @barbaralong8665
    @barbaralong8665 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Serrano pepper is very tough and I overwinter it California outside without production. I can’t keep up with production but it is hotter than the Jalapeño

  • @88jameson88
    @88jameson88 ปีที่แล้ว

    Acapulco Gold is my favourite landrace

  • @charmainemrtnz
    @charmainemrtnz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi. I put 40% shade cloth on my garden last week in the hopes it would save my tomatoes. Do you think that is too much or will it be ok? Please help! Thank you. It was 101 here today.

  • @Agriculture369Khmer
    @Agriculture369Khmer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video

  • @Youdontknowmeson1324
    @Youdontknowmeson1324 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anybody ever heard of capsicum flexosum the cold hardy wild pepper for southern South America. I personally think of it has a superior species in every way it can survive freezing and is very hardy.

  • @mellyg8872
    @mellyg8872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting Luke! I wondered how plants have come to current state. I didn’t have a clue or about dogs either. Cool!

  • @jenniferwalters579
    @jenniferwalters579 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I see you don’t have fruits yet. Does that mean there’s hope for me in zone 6b? I got jalapeños early b/c they were overwintered, and finally I am picking the longer light green ones. Im hoping for the 2-3 bell varieties. The peppers struggled early on for some reasons.

  • @robertavillella6485
    @robertavillella6485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Btw...how can someone get a hold of these wild varieties? Would it be something you would carry, at some point? I dont think I remember seeing them in your seed shop.

  • @Youdontknowmeson1324
    @Youdontknowmeson1324 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have perenial kale called sea kale it’s a close relative to a kale not a true kale it grows on the coast of England and makes big roots that are edible and seeds are hard to sprout there extremely hard to get and to sprout but it they can grow for 25 years plus.

  • @angieguscott8446
    @angieguscott8446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there an online store that you would recommend for buying landrace vegetables. I looked at your store but I don't believe I saw were you sell any landrace varieties? If you do sell, could you clue me in on how to identify which ones are landrace. Thank you

  • @rock5138
    @rock5138 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting!

  • @patriciahammett4197
    @patriciahammett4197 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What you said on the video makes sense to me because all the people on the earth today came from only 8 people, and all kinds of animals came from only 2 of each kind.
    So why would plants be different.
    Enjoyed the history mixed with the garden lesson.

  • @gardenstatesowandsew
    @gardenstatesowandsew ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you ❤ I love this

  • @aarontomaselli4910
    @aarontomaselli4910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll have to try this.

    • @Youdontknowmeson1324
      @Youdontknowmeson1324 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should try the hardy pepper capsicum flexosum to they much more hardy

  • @reneejmj
    @reneejmj ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will you have seeds for these varieties? It would be nice to taste them.

  • @vickieboudwin7781
    @vickieboudwin7781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved your video thank you

  • @HGrimes
    @HGrimes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could I suggest an episode on germinating wild seeds? Or do you have one out there already? This is something I really struggle with!

    • @Youdontknowmeson1324
      @Youdontknowmeson1324 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some seeds need freezing and they shells Brocken off scarification

  • @lisadeluca5714
    @lisadeluca5714 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am in search of Red Long of Tropea onion seeds-Italian. Could you get these? Thanks!

  • @lisagee2789
    @lisagee2789 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be amazing if you could team up with JOSEPH LOFTHOUSE of Utah. to bring this high quality seed to the forefront He's been fine tuning landrace seeds for over 10 years. Just throws the seeds together and grows out the best. He even tastes his soil before starting a new field. Great guy and amazing varieties..

  • @thebest21445
    @thebest21445 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have kalaa pathari landrace its very sensitive to amendments

  • @deltorres2100
    @deltorres2100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow so we’re can we get an Landrys variety at. ??

  • @cypherknot
    @cypherknot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where does one get landrace seeds?

  • @jordanyeager9220
    @jordanyeager9220 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always informative. 🌿 🌶️ 🫑

  • @Youdontknowmeson1324
    @Youdontknowmeson1324 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everglades and galagos tomatoes are cool and Perenial rare and exotic

  • @gardening-ft6ku
    @gardening-ft6ku ปีที่แล้ว

    Your seeds were the best

  • @timmartin8191
    @timmartin8191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool video! Kudos to you and your inquisitive mind.

  • @keithshumaker6402
    @keithshumaker6402 ปีที่แล้ว

    Landrace you get what grows in your area

  • @oovii808
    @oovii808 ปีที่แล้ว

    Panam Red is a landrace.

  • @pwaslurrr
    @pwaslurrr ปีที่แล้ว

    😀

  • @bipbip6626
    @bipbip6626 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are theses new super genetics seeds called [in uk] F1?

  • @foreverwantingpie
    @foreverwantingpie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isnt landrace different from wild? I thought landraces were kind of a middle ground, not wild or fully "domesticated", a descendant of cultivation by humans

  • @SG-vu4qy
    @SG-vu4qy ปีที่แล้ว

    how to find ancient varieties?

    • @Youdontknowmeson1324
      @Youdontknowmeson1324 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They sell them experimental farm network, Etsy, Amazon maybe, rare seeds, logees greenhouse maybe.

  • @hollynelson543
    @hollynelson543 ปีที่แล้ว

    Comeon people grow big or home!😊

  • @user-pb8bp6sr2u
    @user-pb8bp6sr2u 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ancient corn is this tiny little grain. You wouldn't recognize it as corn.

  • @jtsloth
    @jtsloth ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew chiltipin. Not great. Lots of teeny tiny hot pods. Interesting grow though.

    • @elliottwallace
      @elliottwallace ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I grow them - they do great in Texas, as they are native here. They are good to add to salsas for a bright and spicy flavor. They are also very commonly used to make pepper vinegar. Its super common for restaurants to have a bottle of vinegar with tabasco peppers or chiltepin peppers in it for adding that acidic kick to dishes.

    • @jtsloth
      @jtsloth ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elliottwallace makes sense. I'm in northern Indiana and not all varieties do great here. Luke is way north of me, so I assumed they would grow well.

    • @Youdontknowmeson1324
      @Youdontknowmeson1324 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is other wild peppers to grow like Rocoto peppers and capsicum flexosum peppers for example there tons of other capsicum spcies you can experiment with.

    • @jtsloth
      @jtsloth ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Youdontknowmeson1324 I looked into the Rocoto and I'm interested in trying it next season. I tried 11 new varieties this year, and most won't make it next year, so I'll have to fill some gaps. Thanks for the suggestion!

    • @Youdontknowmeson1324
      @Youdontknowmeson1324 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jtsloth gapeys grub and heirloom reviews made wild peppers videos to. Nigel carter got the rarest pepper videos.

  • @rogaineablar5608
    @rogaineablar5608 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you are way off about pit bulls being 60% chihuahua, it's more like both pit bulls and chihuahua share 60% of the same genetics. That's a very different concept. We share 98% of genes with chimps but we are not 98% chimp.

  • @user-pb8bp6sr2u
    @user-pb8bp6sr2u 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What happened to grow big or go home?

  • @stevenkertesz4625
    @stevenkertesz4625 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the moment I own more Maples than ASE's. Besides my collection book of eagles. The premiums are just too high on the ASE's. It is cheaper to purchase foreign bullion.

  • @randyroberts9322
    @randyroberts9322 ปีที่แล้ว

    🥸Good job 2 nerdy? dude Hey did you ever watch John Candy harmlessly suckcessfully funny enough sell shower rings in thee movie Planes,trains and automobiles