I've been thin my whole life and when my best friend of 20 yrs got obese I believed her when she said it was from her poly cystic ovarian syndrome. Later down the road when she lost weight she finally confessed to my dumb ass she lied. She has PCOS. She was also just around family and a new bf that over ate constantly. I felt ignorant and betrayed. Lol
@@robinjoy2789whoa. Reading that made me remember being gaslighted by an addict. There has to be an addictive force to it, to do life threatening harm despite knowing it's harmful. Interesting.
And what's quite shocking is they dont tell people whats actually happening. The diet rich in simple carbs and sugars messes up gut flora and neurochemicals which all makes you just crave more junk food in turn making dopamine even more depleted and making you eat more and more to get same stimulation. Eating disorder has more to do with this dopamine mechanism than counting calories. Diet rich in fruit and veggies and protein will make losing weight much more easier since it will rebalance the brain and eliminate these cravings.
Without defending the entirety of James Corden's public persona and career, Bill Maher has continually mischaracterized the point James Corden was making against him. Corden said that the obesity epidemic is absolutely a serious health crisis but that bullying and fat-shaming people aren't the ways to solve it and could actually increase obesity by causing depression, leading to self-destructive habits like overeating. Whether you agree with his point, he was not claiming that being obese wasn't unhealthy or that people's life choices couldn't affect their weight and health. Maher either didn't watch Corden's response or is willfully misinterpreting it because he has repeatedly said that James was making points that he explicitly stated the opposite of.
Where is this data that being fat and disease being sick have anything to do with each other that's all bullshit being fat is mostly genetic and living long is mostly genetic don't let them fool you these are just Pharmaceutical companies trying to push pills on people and also the exercise industry you think they're going to tell you the truth nope there's no money in that
Totally agree. As a fat person trying to change my lifestyle and body. Lost 1.5” off my waist and 1” off my chest to far but only down 4 lbs. trying to focus on the fat, not the weight seems to be the critical thing I am finding I need to focus on.
I've lost 80 pounds the last year and he's right about the poop thing.😂 My whole digestive system works so much better in general. It's mainly the healthy diet though I'm sure.
It’s also because a lot of the central fat which pushes your intestines and organs around is gone so your system works a lot better. This has happened to me both times I lost 90 lbs.
Congratulations on the hard work buddy! It can be really tough keeping your self-discipline at its highest level 24/7, but it’s absolutely worth it. I just went through a big weight loss as well and my digestive system is infinitely better!
80 pounds in a year - that's fucking awesome. 👊 I'm sure you don't need anybody to say it, in order for you to know that you should be proud of yourself... But we're going to.
If you know anything about eating disorders like binge eating disorder it's often rooted in psychological issues. That doesn't make it any less relevant. Normal people don't exist. If you're referring to people on here I think I see a lot of people who don't understand addiction.
I agree. For alcoholics, just drink less or stop drinking and your problems will be over. I mean I've never been an alcoholic but it must be easy to fix, right?
I’ve recently lost 120 pounds and Joe is right if anyone is trying to lose weight it’s definitely not easy but if you train your mind and work hard at it just like anything else in this world it is more than doable. Granted I do understand some people have reasons for weight gain and loss, so that is understandable…
Keep it up big dawg I'm currently at the gym trying to get back down to my healthy weight. At one point I had lost 200 pounds and I unfortunately put about 80 back on but it's doable and your goal is something you will achieve if you just stick to it and stay motivated!
But that is PRECISELY the problem. You have to train your mind! People who have mental problems and are dealing with things like childhood abuse, SA, ptsd, etc find it hard to train their mind! Most of the fight is mental because I do believe most people now know that they are doing the wrong things to get to a healthy weight.
I feel like there’s a switch that has to go off, that makes the threat of future disappointment stronger than the desire for immediate satisfaction. I still haven’t found it.
I agree with everyone 100%… when it comes to health it’s not a sprint it’s a marathon and people forget that sometimes, and it comes in all parts of your life, menatal, physical,emotional,and trying to be as stress free as one can, witch is not an easy task these days lol…I appreciate all the support and hope everyone is living to their fullest and enjoying all that life has to offer…
Never been overweight, but I’ve had other problems where doctors just offered me pills rather than helping me address the root cause. I strongly declined. Respect for you guys who are also taking responsibility for your situation!
I was very skinny but active in high school, and gained "only" 50 lbs in a few years because of constant stress-eating in university. It absolutely made me more lethargic, unhealthy, and unconfident. The more weight I lose, the happier I am. There's a direct correlation there. And even if you have a genetic disposition to obesity and related illnesses like I do, it's no excuse to avoid being healthy. *Very* few people are genuinely unable to stay healthy; the majority just can't get to that point (like me for most of my past weight loss attempts). Personal responsibility is key. Somehow the anti-bullying movement went from "don't tell people to off themselves for being fat, just be polite" to "obesity is actually good and you're a narrow-minded, racist bigot for daring to think otherwise". It's another example of weaponized empathy, and it's genuinely leading people who don't know any better to quicker deaths.
I’m similar, I’ve been between at roughly 155 for last five years but before that my weight fluctuated my entire life. At my heaviest I was pushing 320 lbs and it was entirely from binge eating and beer.
I stopped drinking soda back in March of 2022 and started exercising regularly in July of that year, I went from being obese at 298lbs down to 185lbs and not being overweight for the first time in my adult life. Diet and exercise makes all the difference.
You must have been drinking a TON of soda if that's the main change. Exercise doesn't really burn all that many calories. Surely you did more than that to lose that much weight?
You nailed it “diet” soda too, I bet. That shit is poison, I think aspertame causes you to retain fluid’s. Adding the word “diet” to anything doesn’t mean it’s good for you.
this was a terrible take though. He is complaining that people consider obesity a disease and that it's not considered not curable....Some diseases are curable Bill..... They later both agree that food addiction leads to obesity and food addiction is real...which is the disease...Bil Maher puts less than zero thought into his political views. Joe Rogan also puts zero but at least is intelligent enough to respond correctly when he hears nonsense.
I’ve lost 90lbs overall. I go up and down but I’ve kept most of it off. It is hard. I’ve been overweight my whole life and it sucks. I know it sucks and it’s still hard to stay disciplined with diet and exercise. You have to change your lifestyle. People think they can diet , lose weight, and then go back to how they were eating and living. It don’t work that way. It has to be a permanent change.
@@cameltoelicker-rv6poyes they do. Seen it everyday. Guys lose a bunch of weight and gain it all back after 6 months and seem shocked. People aren't smart
The comparison with alcoholism is interesting. I used to be in OA, not for overeating but more for anorexia. There is a 12 step method for eating disorders whether that leaves people over or underweight. They have like different approaches, some people are "grey sheet" (a specific diet printed on a grey sheet). One helpful thing for me was to talk about childhood trauma (hiding food in my room so my sister & I could eat regardless of drunk drama, police being at the house, whatever) and also just they have these wallet cards with steps to "12 step" a problem. So it can walk you through problem solving in a healthy way, so you're not eating at a problem or restricting at a problem or avoiding it, you just have a formula you can follow to make better decisions. It's not perfect but it did help me a lot. I still have the wallet card, I'll look at it like on the train during my commute sometimes before work to get my mindset right for the day. One interesting thing: a lot of 12 step meetings never went back to face-to-face after COVID. They're still like Zoom only. So you can't get the same connection of even being in a room with people with the same problem. People are still afraid to go back. It kind of sucks because that kind of face to face connection/support can be helpful.
I'm proud to have helped my own 12-step group (ACA) go back to in-person after being online-only for COVID. In the ACA-world, overeating is one of many, many techniques people use to avoid feeling what they don't want to, but need to, feel. Having a safe place to talk about your problems is one of the most beautiful and helpful things in the world. I agree it's not perfect - you need to make sure it's helpful for you, and make it your own - but it's been really positive for me.
I'm in Ireland and I am on Ozempic as there is a long history of type 2 diabetes in my family, I also have MS so exercise is draining and even though I was walking 6 km a day , my weight was ballooning ....hit 20st my doctor put me on Ozempic as my Blood sugar levels were through the roof. Since I was on it , I have lost two stone and last year I had to have Brain surgery , the doctors came to me and asked me why did my charts say I was diabetic? As My blood sugar levels in the pre op tests now read normal ....Doctors then told me the problem is now that I'm on it , I have to stay on it to keep my blood sugar under control...now with everyone taking it to lose weight , it's becoming incredibly difficult for pharmacies to get enough for those of us on prescription.
Labeling addiction as a disease increases the ability for doctors to bill insurance companies for the treatment. They are less likely to cover care for psychological conditions.
Funny thing is that all this shit is happening only in America, Canada and Australia. No one else caters to the feelings of woke victimhood like US does Slut shaming, weight shaming, entertaining childhood transitions of kids, kids shutting down teachers/professors for microaggressions, weird sexual books for really young kids, laws against deadnaming, Pride month with extremely lude public acts -all American ideas. This empire will collapse just like the Roman empire did
Some of us just get tired of it. I was a varsity athlete freshman to senior year in highschool all the Xcountry indoor and outdoor track. But some of us get sick of it. Then we work out again years and years later and realize it’s cool when it’s not a competition. But some of us say eff it.
I put on about 20 kgs during the pandemic and weighed 120 kgs the heaviest I have ever been. Ate like shit and felt good when I ate because it coped with loneliness and depression. Now I am close to losing all that weight I gained thanks to training Muay Thai. Obesity is no damn disease it's a choice!
295-->205, I went with intermittent fasting and now I going back to small meals to spread those calories out more. Getting your stomach to shrink helps a lot, so start slow and stick with it works wonders.
You can't dismiss the mass influx of cheap, processed foods into the American diet and that effect over the last 30-40 years (especially combined with middle class wage reduction). Not that they support the disease theory; but definitely the addictive aspect. Add to this that Philip Morris and RJ Reynolds own most of it, and it makes total sense why people are addicted to it.
its insane. Just walking down the Isles is like all junk food. My diet consist of meat, veggies and juices. Idk how people eat all that other shit. Soda Included.
@@willyjf6193 Some juices are comparable to soda in terms of sugar content, and not all of it is natural. Be careful with your choices in that category. I just eat fruit and drink water instead.
I think the fast food industry has a lot to do with that, all the food that's bad for you benefited from economies of scale and the population chubbed up with them. Now nutritional food is often expensive, whereas the crap clogging up our hearts is super cheap. That's why the poor are disproportionately fatter than most others, they simply can't afford to eat healthy.
I was never super over weight, but i did need to lose about 45 lbs. I did that with keto -> fat adaptation, staying under my maintenance and also intermittent fasting all rolled into one. I did this during COVID lockdown and also strength trained at the same time. I was the leanest, strongest and the healthiest i've ever been. And one thing i can tell you, i'm a refined sugar CARBOHOLIC. The secret is discipline, lots and lots of discipline - even when every inch of your body and mind is telling you to eat that doughnut that'll cause you to snowball. It's absolutely a losing battle if you dont force yourself to be disciplined and not be "fun" by going out with friends for dinners and drinks.
Congrats of your weight loss, hope you will be able to maintain it for life :) I need to disagree with you though - discipline will never be the ultimate way to achieve life long goals. We are not made to stay super focused and disciplined overe anything for life - state of concentration and discipline is good for us for achievieng short-term goals, in terms of dieting it might be cutting weight for competition for example, but staying disciplined for life is simply tiring and drives you to break eventually. You need to find a way to stay healthy without forcing yourself to do so, otherwise it's gonna be a constant battle. Me - overweight whole life, at my 28 I realized I'm obese. Drinking too often and too much, doing drugs and eating for fun. It took me a year to go cut from 120kg jelly to 93kg lean, I looked amazing then, but It was a struggle - everyday hour or more cardio, strict calories counting, no going out for dinners and drinks with friends, strenght training 5 days a week. Now I'm 34, 103kg weight, still looks good, strong AF, 3 trainings a week, sometimes I eat junk-food, sometimes I drink, sometimes I do drugs, I do not count calories and I maintain body weight for 3 years now :)
275lbs 6ft2 last year. Down to 195 now and a lot of that was muscle gained. Take care of yourself. The gym and good eating fixed like 80% of my problems in life.
I'm a former morbidly obese 340lb depressed and suicidal teen, and at no point did I have a "disease". I had underlying psychological trauma from living in a 'chaotic' home and nearly daily bullying in school. I self medicated by over eating, until I became unrecognizable. One day I woke up, sick and tired of being an undisciplined whale and decided to change my life. In 2 years I lost 160lbs and transformed myself physically, and healed myself from anxiety and depression. All it took was daily consistent exercise, counting calories and patience for the weight to come off. Unless you have a thyroid issue, if you're obese it's because you over consume food, you are not burdened with a 'disease'.
well according to google the definition of disease is "a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that has a known cause and a distinctive group of symptoms, signs, or anatomical changes." which I kind of feel like that sounds like obesity. I mean obesity is a disorder of function in human beings, the function being things like not dying of heart disease, seeing your own dick when you look down, etc etc. I don't really see any problem with calling it a disease, no one ever said disease had to come from bacteria or something. Anyway it's all just semantics for fun I'm not being super serious right now.
@@pointlessmanatee "according to Google." Obesity is not a "disorder" of function. The function of weight control is fine, the eating bad food or too much is the issue. AKA: the function was fine until the person pushed the function past it's breaking point by their choices.
Two years ago, my A1C was 5.8 and my doc offered to put me on medication right away to manage it. I refused, cut out carbs, returned 8 months later having lost 50 lbs. Now my A1C is 5.3 and back in the normal range. I love my doctor -- been going to her for decades -- but her eagerness to just throw pills at the issue made me smarten the fuck up and change my ways.
Yeah your A1C didn't call for medication at ALL. You can diet and exercise that right down. Also you gotta make sure your thyroid is ok. Hypothyroidism will bring your A1C and cholesterol RIGHT UP.
In any profession there will be good and bad people, some of those bad people might push medications to get kickbacks. You can say that’s an issue but what also should be addressed is human nature. Another reason doctors are so quick to prescribe medications over diet/exercise is because statistically, their patients won’t diet/exercise and make the necessary life changes so it’s safer for them to prescribe medication. Good for you though bro doing it the right way.
I work in health care and it is mind blowing how different we think about obesity. Obesity definitely causes so many diseases. But obesity in itself being a disease that needs medical attention and treated in a way that other disease are treated. I think we need to start being more honest to our patients.
I struggle with weight but found something that's working for me. It's scary how the medical industry is treating it as a disease. The best explanation I have heard is our bodies are smart and trying to keep us alive by always being hungry because the food we are eating is low in vitamins and nutrients. So our brains are always being triggered that we're hungry. Eat high nutritious, whole foods and we won't have the same cravings or desire for food like we do now. Our bodies are like a machine. Give it what it needs and it will function properly. I swear by this concept because it's working for me. Lost 50 lbs in 5 months. Without starving or undereating. I ate to satisfaction but chose foods high in a variety of vitamins and nutrients.
I was 360 lbs and it was no one’s fault but my own. I was depressed, not exercising and had atrocious eating habits. Since I’ve changed my lifestyle to exercise almost every day and a 2000 calorie high protein diet I’ve lost 75 lbs and hope to lose 60 more. It’s all up to you. Either deal with how hard it is to exercise and diet or deal with how hard it is being morbidly obese and all the related health problems.
The amount of fat people actually blaming others for their predicament is low. With the extremes being used as talking points. What if you were forced to do what you did? What if you had economic or social constraints put on you because of your weight? That's the direction these two assholes want to steer the Country.
The fact that Tess Holliday went on a press tour saying she was anorexic as a morbidly obese woman and never had any serious pushback shows how far down the rabbit hole we’ve gone with this
Anorexia doesn't have to lead to malnutrition. It only means that you're throwing up your food regularly out of shame over your body, which is a psychological problem no matter how you objectively look.
And it's a bit shameful because you know there are people with actual diseases that they cannot influence but otherwise they make good disciplined choices @JonKrueger
As a truck driver, I lost over 40 lbs 2 yrs, and tbh it’s all a mindset thing and how well you discipline yourself, because I started working out and ate a lot of subway, fruits and salads at the truck stops, I know it’s not the best choice of nutritional options but it was convenient for me. . I also cooked my meals on my truck too but I wish these truck stops had more variety of healthy foods us truck drivers can eat. . Because Wendy’s, McDonald’s, Burger King is not it
Joe and his guests have taught me a lot about how to lose weight. I have lost 145 pounds from my heaviest. If I could have learned about intermittent fasting ( from Joes podcast) earlier in life it would not have taken me so many years. I am down to my Jr high wrestling weight now and have drastically reduced my diabetes. You gotta move your body every day and stick with one meal. Doesn’t work for everyone - but it worked for me. I am 56
I would argue that in places like the US it is far more difficult to maintain a healthy weight due to their horrific food regulations where the stuff you get from a store is rancid oils covered with high fructose corn syrup and petroleum derived colouring agents. It's not that it's not good for you, it's actively toxic.
@@Waywardbiscuithow so. I am not an expert but I have family overseas and they complain whenever they come here abt everything the OP of this comment said
And it so much harder for me because of genetics! Sad to hear that it’s so hard to eat healthily in the US and to not be able to find anywhere to walk either. That must be the reasons why eating more calories than you burn off occurs so much in the country. Not saying it’s easy, but people are dancing round the main problems, over eating of unhealthy food and lack of exercise. imo.
@@IrepDoubleurmax Just don't buy that stuff. All of the food that doesn't have that junk in it is just as available as the junk food at grocery stores. People make the decision to walk past fresh vegetables and buy junk every day. That's on them.
I've lost about 80-90 lbs over the past few years. It is one of the best things I've ever done. I feel so much better and have so much more energy each day. I was able to do this because I am in control of my body and what I put in it and how much I move it. Was losing this weight easy? No, but it is possible.
I took Ozempic for 3 weeks and got very sick. It gave me horrible gastrointestinal issues. I was throwing up uncontrollably, going diarrhea all day and my food was not digesting. It was horrible! I'm not horribly overweight and not diabetic but my doctor prescribed it to me because I wanted to lose weight. Avoid at all costs!
Good stuff! I’m going through the opposite. I’m 40 pounds underweight and trying to cram in 2-3k calories a day. it’s a challenge. then working out to turn it into muscle mass.
Hey, it might be time to make a change.. you don’t have to dive full in, just start with not eating an two hours before bed and drink more water. Because you admitting to your own fault and consequences, should show you that you are ready for a change. Best of luck but you don’t need it, you can do it
I’m formerly 240 lbs and I’m currently 168 lbs. In 2017, I got down to welterweight. I’ve fluctuated in weight and anytime I’ve been overweight, it’s because of sugar intake, too much eating, eating before bedtime and a lack of exercise. I do have chronic pain, but eating better and walking a lot helps. I’m sure it’s different for some individuals, but I wasn’t about to accept my poor choices. Self acceptance is good, but it should never become a reason to not change for the better.
I lost over 200lbs (currently at a healthy weight of 165 at 6'-2") and I was able to do it with intermittent fasting/calorie counting and hitting 10k steps a day. I've kept the weight off for like 6 years now. I have very little to no stretch marks. Intermittent fasting is the way humans are designed to eat. Not 12 small meals BS.
Sugar - carbohydrates cause inflammation. 2 knee , 1 elbow, 1 back surgery after 33 years at UPS. Went Keto, got back to my ideal weight quickly. Inflammation decreased substantially. I still keep my carbs super low and intermittent fast, but when I take occasional breaks during holidays and such, aches and pains return. Especially if I load up on the deserts and sweets.
Currently lost 137lbs. All it took was calorie counting, gym and steps. Are we really in a position now where medical professionals are questioning that that's the mechanism for fat loss?
I really think the price and quality of food needs to be part of this conversation too though. 24 oz of kale from Safeway is $6, and that's the cheapest per volume I could find. You can get a two cheeseburger meal from a fastfood chain, which I think includes fries and a soda, for $4.89. A big part of the problem, in my view, is that the cheapest, most convenient options are high calorie, low quality foods.
I need to gain weight, 50 pounds underweight 5'9 at 112 actually lost 2 pounds wish i have your issue and the money how do you even have the money too weigh 170
@@perrycoffey5410weight lift until ur sore. Try working out 3-4 times a week. It'll help activate ur hunger. And when ur sore, food will help u gain weight if u eat a lot. If ur not sore, idk if it'll work. It's a learning curve that I'm still working on. Gained a few pounds so far
@@perrycoffey5410what im doing is. Upper body lifting, rest day, lower body lifting, rest day, upper body lifting, rest day, lower body lifting, rest day. I was doing upper body lifting, lower body lifting, then two or three rest days and it wasnt activating my hunger as much as it is now with just one rest day in between
4:13 Also, in 1969 doctors were handing out speed as diet pills like it was candy. My mother's doctor had her time-release speed as diet pills when I was a kid, I remember seeing them when I was 6, in 1970. Also remember taking them when I was 11 in 1975. So she was on at least that long. Was common then.
I have battled weight my entire life. The “sick” part of that is that it almost always LEARNED BEHAVIORS. Food was my drug, my coping mechanism. It was how I numbed out. In my 30’s, I allowed my 5’3 frame to get to 306lbs. I no longer struggle and HOW doesn’t matter nor is anyone’s business, the point is, while I feel it IS an illness of some kind, teaching people they “can’t help it” is dangerous and it’s not helping anyone.
The behavior of overeating in some people has literally hijacked the brains reward system and is by strict definition a disease. People without addictive issues or with natural high metabolisms often have zero empathy for these people as you can tell by this comment section. I totally agree with you, it's not healthy but it isn't an excuse to crap on people.
I kind of agree with you. How I look at obesity is that its a "result" of a disease. The disease in my opinion is an eating disorder. A lot of people may disagree but I believe that majority of individuals that fall into the category of being obese have an unhealthy/unmanaged relationship with food. Any rational person wouldn't sit back and tell an anorexic person to "just eat more" or an alcoholic to "just don't drink" or "just control yourself and drink less". Most people can look past themselves and understand that statements like that are absurdly ignorant because even though they may have a healthy relationship with food or alcohol that's not the reality of someone with a disease in the form of an eating disorder or addiction. Like anorexia and alcoholism change and a healthier mind and body is possible for someone with an eating disorder that has resulted in their body being obese. But it will require a strong commitment to rehabilitation.
Fascinating point by joe near the end. It can be a disease and have a cure. Once you're aware of your habits and patterns, you can change them. Before you are, youre stuck in a loop.
May I express my admiration for the brave people in this chat who have decided to lose weight and succeeded. Because I am 70 and brought up in an era with generally more natural food, I am not obese and this is NOT because I am not greedy. I am extremely greedy but my body was healthy in those first few years eg breast fed and no processed stuff for first ten years of my life. I think people who are obese are victims of malnutrition that started as babies. So I just want to say to those people, well done for trying to put things right now. There is no shame on your side. The people who should feel shame are the food companies and the greedy shareholders who profit from all this and the corrupt politicians who refuse to legislate.
I has a stylist tell me she cut out a sizeable portion of her digestive system to lose weight. Nice lady, so I felt bad :( The diet she had to stick to after this surgery... I didn't ask, but thought, "You did not need to diet this hard if you just dieted normal first." It is crazy what people feel like they need to do to lose weight, almost like they can't without a terrible surgery!
You need to do some research into nutritional value in this country and why Americans are the fattest also did u know the food pyramid was a marketing plot to sell more (carbs)
My biggest regret is thinking a pill could help me lose weight. I was depressed. Then I gave myself a chance and start self auditing what Ive been doing. Slowly, things began to change. Sugar is my biggest weakness
Sugar is my nemesis...I try to eat a lot of protein, my sweets consist of Greek yogurt with stevia and berries and I use stevia in iced coffees etc. It has helped me not be miserable. I did keto but too much added dietary saturated fat is not ideal. I try to stick to leaner cuts of meat and veggies plus I do a fasting mimicking diet every month. It's totally doable, but I would be Leary of the people who claim their way is the only way. Sustainability is the only thing that really matters when health and weight loss/maintenance is your goal. If you can't do it consistently it won't work.
Don't get discouraged. There aren't shortcuts and you shouldn't short circuit your life either. Genetics and biological gender does play a part. What foods you can buy and how your work/life balance influences your schedule and options is only in your control in a limited way. Make good choices when you can, rely on an accountability partner of you struggle here. You are human.
If it makes you feel better, the depression you felt or are still feeling is really more connected to sugar(or as I will explain later) than to weight. For example I was never really fat, my heaviest was 210 pounds but I am quite built 6'1 guy so no one really looked at me as fat, more like just good build. But for other reasons I wanted to lose weight and I am down to 185 now but would you believe I had periods of depression at 185 I never felt when I was the heaviest. After watching various videos I connected the dots and yeah, my diet was heavy in simple carbs and sugars with very little veggies. It turns out the gut bacteria is essential for mental well being. I am back to eating saurkraut almost everyday, fruits and veggies everyday and improvement is already noticeable. Just the other day I bought pizza and icecream and boy did my mood drop after that was digested, the whole next day or two I felt it. Obviously its not the same for everyone but I feel like I have to go on extended periods of no junk foods to repair all the damage to gut and brain and re balance all these neurochemicals.
Doctors absolutely know why it works lol it has been used for diabetics for years. "Ozempic works by mimicking a naturally occurring hormone. As those hormone levels rise, the molecules go to your brain, telling it you're full. It also slows digestion by increasing the time it takes for food to leave the body. This is similar to the effect of bariatric surgery."
As a proud 34 year old who has lost over 60kg in less than two years, I can confidently say working out and eating right is the best way to go. My confidence level is off the charts too!!! Haha I went from 141kg to 77kg by moving my fat ass around. I started from 30mins morning walks by 6am, to, today, an hour walk and an hour run from 4am-6am, everyday unless it rains. I didn't know I had it in me.
Mechanism of Action: Glucagon-like peptide-1 (GLP-1) agonist Weight management: GLP-1 is a physiological regulator of appetite and caloric intake, and the GLP-1 receptor is present in several areas of the brain involved in appetite regulation
And I'm going to guess that the loss of muscle and connective tissue is due to people not eating enough due to lowered appetites, not because the drug is evil.
Yeah I won’t call him out for being a liar but he is very mistaken if he thinks we don’t know why GLP-1 agonists work. This isn’t the 1800s where we throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks, now we make medications based on our understanding of physiology and the medications behave almost exactly as they were expected to.
The solution is rucking- walking with a weighted backpack. I added 13 pound weights to my backpack and i carry it everyday to work.. i have a 20 minute commute each way. So 40 minutes of walking daily, with a weighted bag. Builds stamina, strength, burns extra calories than walking alone, great for heart health
@@kuryaku5906 Fast food is wrecking people. I walk my dog by a bakery every morning. Tons of obese people go in. No wonder. Lots of sugary/icing foods. Smells great. No way would I have the discipline to eat just 1, so i don’t even go in there. Those people must have a crazy level of addiction.
Glad you brought up food addiction. It's a thing, and needs to be talked about. If more people viewed their unhealthy eating habits as an addiction they might get turned around and lose some weight and improve their health.
Not really. That's not how addiction works. I am addicted and it doesn't change anything about my addiction. On the contrary, it makes me feel even worse that I am addicted and that worse feeling makes me even more addicted in order to kill the mental pain that comes from the shame.
Food addiction isn't a thing. Food just tastes really good so it's very easy to over consume. I can have some sympathy for very overweight people because I do recognize that genetics plays a role in hunger hormones and how full someone feels after they eat. Same thing goes when people say they're addicted to sugar. No. No one is just sitting there eating table sugar. They're eating it in conjunction with fat/salt, and that combination tastes amazing. Incredibly enjoyable and easy to over consume is not the same as an addiction.
Ozempic works by mimicking a naturally occurring hormone. As those hormone levels rise, the molecules go to your brain, telling it you're full. It also slows digestion by increasing the time it takes for food to leave the body. This is similar to the effect of bariatric surgery.
I've lost 60 pounds since January of this year. The ONLY thing I changed was the quantity and quality of my food. No extra exercise was required. The key is consistency. If you remain at a daily calorie deficit for an extended period of time, you WILL lose weight.
Gastrointestinal issues are the #1 issues we see with this in the ED. It commonly occurs when folks start rapidly losing weight while continuing to increase their dose.
🇲🇽 In order to combat childhood obesity, in 2018, Mexico passed a law banning cartoon mascots to promote junk food. So, if you go into a Mexican grocery store, you can still buy sugary cereals, cookies, and cakes, but there are no cartoons on the box. No Trix Rabbit. No Captain Crunch. Nothing,.
I just found out something even crazier! In the Mexican states of Oaxaca and Tabasco, it is now illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to buy junk food!
I lost 60lbs and im now a healthy 80kgs and run 20km a few times a week. It completely turned my life around but it is hard. Its not a disease but its a mental issue 100%. Its forcing yourself to not do something that give you instant dopamine rush. To put it into perspective for someone like Joe its like asking him to just stop going to the gym and not working out for 6 months. For someone whos life is all about thst lifestyle its super difficult but youre a better person once you do it.
You do not run 20 km a few times a week lol. More like 2 km a few times a week, which is still a lot compared to the average. (I checked Google maps in my area to see what 20 km is and it's a lot). Especially for someone that's walked 10 km like myself in what felt like 5-7 h.
@@JetteroHeller83 okay so because you cant cant run for that long no one else can? I do a 20km in about 90-100 minutes, its not that difficult but it took years of consistently training and exercising. I've been running for about 14 years now consistently a few times a week to during lockdown running 10km a day every day for a month just because I was bored. Somedays are sore, somedays are slow. I'm currently training to do a marathon so I've stepped up my distance and training. Also walking 10km should only take about 2 hours at a normal walking pace. Are you that unfit?
Losing weight is like getting out of bad debt, doing the bare minimum and missing payments and it will snowball and get more difficult but if you make sacrifices and have discipline it will soon become second nature the new habits you have adopted
So many people are overweight from just depression and/or whatever they are dealing with in their lives. just like people that drink too much. Its a way to feel good for a little bit. People that are fat know how to lose weight, but the drive is just gone or life has been just beating them down and eating makes them feel good. People are fat because they eat too much, but there are many understandable reasons it happens. Life isn't easy, i gained weight when my mom died. I just didn't care anymore, it took a while to find my way back to normal. Losing weight is easy once your mind is right, but getting to that point can be surprisingly tough.
You are wrong. So 50 years ago everybody was happy? 50 years ago most Americans cooked their own food from scratch... Now they don't. Instead they eat shit...They have no idea what is put in their food.
Yeah man. It's like quitting smoking. It's not something you just do once and you're good. It's a continuous process. It's a mindset. But you have to want it. I used to smoke and I was overweight once. Both problems I fixed and continue to fix everyday through hard work and meditation.
I appreciate this point of view - good for u. I have a few people in my life struggling with their weight and they’re all amazing human beings and I’m rooting for them so hard
As someone who’s struggled with my weight being too low I can’t fathom obesity, I mean how easy is your life if being obese is your biggest problem. Maybe it’s time you start taking responsibility for stuffing yourself full of “food”.
I think the difference between the attitude to "alcoholism as a disease" and "obesity as a disease" is that with the former nobody's pretending that the solution isn't some variation of "find a way to stop drinking". With the latter, the activists don't want to have constructive and non-judgemental conversations about how you can develop the discipline to stop overeating and maintain an exercise regimen, they want to pretend that the eating and lack of exercise are completely separate from being unhealthily fat. If the fat acceptance brigade were saying things like "being mean to fat people is both cruel and doesn't help them lose weight, treat it like an addiction they can be supported through" I'd be behind them 100%. However, since they're acting as if there's no connection, their position is as ridiculous as it would be for Alcoholics Anonymous to say "failing livers and violently/humiliatingly losing control of our behaviour is just who we are, stop pretending it's got any connection to all the alcohol we keep drinking"
@mzytryck That is what the fat acceptance movement wants. It’s people like Bill Maher who lie about the movement for personal profit. Alcoholism is a choice while if you have a glandular problem, you don’t have a choice in being overweight. Genetics also play a role in determining what your body size is.
Stopped drinking beer and soda in November, since then I've lost 33lbs and have been in the best physical shape of my life, the simple disruption of alcohol abuse made me make poor food choices and crave fast food. I have become more discipline in what I eat and how I eat and exercise daily. People need discipline
They name it a “disease “ and push the narrative so these big power companies , can continue to sell us foods that are so harmful but make tons of profit on it and guess what when you need help with this “disease “ they sell you drugs that help with this “disease “ oh that didn’t work and now you got cancer ? Guess what we can make money from your health insurance and bill you on your health care .
The problem is, there's no money to be made in what it takes to be healthy. It's way more profitable to convince people that they need to by a drug, a bunch of supplements and a gym membership to be healthy. All you need is a pull-up bar to cover exercises you can't use bodyweight for and to cut out processed crap and you'll be fine, but there's no money in that.
The conflation of disease and a state of affairs that is really hard to fix always puzzled me. I am an alcoholic I needed medical care to quit. It was hard to do, but the idea that I have a disease is just silly.
I'm NOT calling alcoholism or being overweight a mental illness. But, in most cases there is something going on emotionally/mentally/in the brain that is a strong contributor to the condition. But rarely a "disease" or "illness".
To some extent it's really more of a question of "how do we use language here" than it is "who's right and who's wrong." You can be right that you didn't have a "disease" but if that's not the right word for a situation like yours, that required medical care to help address, what is? I don't think we have another word that's as simple as "disease" that's sufficiently appropriate. Along with the word comes connotations and an implication of what the correct approach is to address it. And just the feeling that by having given it a name, that one has some general idea of what to do about it as opposed to having no idea how to actually approach such a thorny problem.
I am a type 2 diabetic and I take Ozempic. It controls my blood sugar. In contrast to what is conventional thought, I was not morbidly obese when diagnosed. In fact, the diagnosis was a surprise to me, my doctor, and my wife. I started Ozempic a few years later, when it became difficult to control my blood sugar without living on a keto style diet, which I hated. I did lose about 15 lbs when I started it. Mainly because of the side effects. I was always nauseas and had terrible heartburn. BUT, I am very active. I lift weights 4 days/week and do daily cardio. I am now, over 2 years on the drug, the same weight I was when I started taking it, because I control my diet. I have added muscle and lost body fat. Not because of Ozempic, because I eat a lot of protein and workout hard. Yes, Ozempic does affect appetite, but honestly, if you ate taking it just to lose weight, the gastrointestinal side effects aren’t worth it. Just adjust your diet to increase protein, eat less overall, lift weights and get in some cardio. How weak are you really if you cannot do that?
@jobunaga4178 they do know that it has an appetite suppressant effect and that it slows gastric emptying but glp-1s are hormones and they aren't sure of everything it's doing or why or even where all the receptor locations are.
I'm also a type 2 diabetic who is not obese, but it came as no surprise since I'm Native American and genetically predisposed. Everyone in my family has it whether we're skinny or fat. I was on insulin with an a1c of 12.5 last year. I'm taking Mounjaro and no more insulin, a1c is now 5.6.
@@soofriends Gald to hear that the Mounjaro is working for you! I have found that I am far from alone with T2D and no history of morbid obesity. It drives me nuts when people imply that the CAUSE of T2D is obesity. Obesity is certainly a risk factor, but having T2D does not imply that you have ever been morbidly obese. Genetics definitely play a role.
I'm 70 pounds overweight and to call it a disease is the worst thing you could do. Not only does it take away responsibility of the person who made those horrible dietary decisions. It removes any avenue for a solution. For if it's your fault (which it is) that also means it's within your power to fix it. Although, I'n sure it's called a disease for medical billing/insurance purposes.
Was 260 when I graduated high school. Lost 80 pounds working at a warehouse job, but began to gain it back when I went back to school. I would ride my bike or would walk twice a week and instead of going to McDonalds and the gas station for food I would make sure I had eggs, chicken and rice in the fridge to fight the urge. You're the one responsible for what you put into your body.
There is something wrong with the quality of our food here. Millions of anecdotes about people going to other countries and pigging out while losing weight only to come back to America, eating far less, and gaining all the weight back. Also, city and neighborhood planning in America has lost the ideals of creating a beautiful walking environment. It's just a bunch of shopping plazas with ugly, mismatched buildings in between. Every new building project is a bigger eyesore than the last. NYC used to be gorgeous. Grand Concourse in the Bronx was so gorgeous before the 70s
It’s literally calories in calories out. A calorie is a calorie throughout the world. “Pigging out” overseas just means you are eating more filling, calorically dense food.
Wait what? "Millions of anecdotes about people going to other countries and pigging out while losing weight only to come back to America, eating far less, and gaining all the weight back." is this a thing? damn, some of those people must be eating some REALLY shitty food then, ive been living in Europe for the past 10 years, in Spain 4 now and the quality of food here is not only great but is affordable and IT IS everywhere, like the norm, like you have to go OUT of your way to eat shit food here.
@@areallytallguy that's not the whole story though. Many additives, hormones, pesticides, etc, are allowed in the US that are banned in other countries. The lack of nutrients in our foods is a problem. Our factory farm eggs have close to no nutritional value when compared to pasture raised eggs. Once I started taking bio available vitamins, my body dropped almost 10 pounds in less than a week and has maintained that weight with no other dietary or physical changes from me.
@@fungus_am0nguz644 from what I've read, people have gorged on breads, cakes, etc on their trips, lost weight, came back to a far more moderate diet in america and gained it all back.
I'm on Ozempic for diabetes. Been dealing with diabetes for about 22 years. Haven't been able to control it. Until 2 years ago. I went keto + veggies. Began to lose weight and lower A1c. But I lost the dam fight to food cravings. Those carbs are freaking hard to shake. So I ended up doing Omad. And it did work. But getting to the end of the day was rough. I ended up on Ozempic as a tool to help my cravings so I can make it to dinner. I eat once a day now, keto. Lost weight, A1c went from 14 to 6.7. The Ozempic did help. At some point, I'll see if I can wean off of it. Basically, Ozempic is a tool, not a full solution. You need to commit and have some balls to follow through with a regime of a good diet.
Keto is a shit diet and goes into what you were just listening to about losing the wrong type of weight. Losing muscle mass is not good and that is exactly what Keto does. Only eating once a day is bad for your metabolism as well and that's why your susceptible to binge eating.
@@deluxsound123 Couldn't be more wrong. How does eating primarily protein and fat magically cause you to lose muscle mass? I benched 275 pounds on Keto.
I'm 320 lbs and I can tell you exactly how I got here. The past 3 years have been a blur of stress eating, insomnia, exhaustion, no opportunities to exercise and depression from traumatic life events. There isn't a single general practitioner that's prepared or qualified to "treat" my obesity because it's a function of depression.
nailed it. dealing with that rn losing weight easy and its not because I'm starving but because I have just what I need not all the extra shit. feel amazing health wise. the broke shit annoying tho xD
Tends to be the opposite for a lot of people these days. Poor people can afford large amounts of very low quality food while decent, fresh, quality ingredients and meals are much more expensive. Obesity largely effects low income people in America today.
@@KAT-dg6el - that's true, and they're poorly educated on nutrition.. but if you don't know what you're doing and don't have money it's easier for those people to buy large amounts of very unhealthy food than it is too buy smaller amount of expensive healthy foods. It's still a personal choice, but it can't be denied that that's a problem
The even more ridiculous thing is the ease of losing weight increases with how overweight someone is. A girl who's thin, bikini body weight is 120, but weighs 300 could slim down to 200 without too much effort, but approaching 150, and getting under 150 is very hard. The net calorie consumption either from diet or exercise reduces from 2000 calories to get to around 200 to 1500 calories for 150, and less than 1500 for that thin weight; especially, if she's over the age of thirty. It's particularly hard, because most Americans struggle to eat a diet less than 2000 calories that's nutritious and filling, and doing 500 extra calories of cardio a day is also a lot of effort; particularly, for someone on a diet. For this reason, I can sympathize with a woman who's fifty pounds overweight saying it's a biological or genetic struggle for her. I can't sympathize with a 400 pound woman trying to justify why she can't even reduce her calories a day to 3000. I knew a girl who weighed about 300 pounds, and managed to get a doctorate in some branch of nutritional science; I just hope no one takes advice from her.
Several years ago my thyroid doctor had the balls to tell me that I’d lose weight “if I kept my head out of the feed bag”! I told him he was evil, but he said he was just being honest. Pissed me off so bad that for months I kept a food journal before putting anything into my mouth to keep my carbs, calories & fat grams under the prescribed amount. It was truly time consuming & such a struggle that I hated every second of that experience. When I saw him again I’d lost at least 30 pounds & he was super nice to me from then on. It sucked that he was right tho 🤔 Since then I’ve learned that eating closer to a keto lifestyle works better for me & it’s MUCH easier. Weight peeled off, plus the cravings for sugar & carbs went away once I stopped eating sugar & high carb foods.
@@chadgrovHe was definitely in the wrong but he also recognized that and fixed the situation, your response is stupid. Some doctors are evil, like the entire opioid epidemic started by all the doctor's handing out pills like candy because they got kickbacks. Most doctors are good though.
Meanwhile, why is fat only 'beautiful' on women? Feminists aren't running around telling us 5'-7" men weighing 300 lbs are beautiful, are 10s. Is it because only women will believe this nonsense, and the only people willing to fk fat women are other fat women?
Im about 40 pounds over weight. Its because what i put in my face late at night. Not some disease.
I've been thin my whole life and when my best friend of 20 yrs got obese I believed her when she said it was from her poly cystic ovarian syndrome.
Later down the road when she lost weight she finally confessed to my dumb ass she lied. She has PCOS. She was also just around family and a new bf that over ate constantly. I felt ignorant and betrayed. Lol
@@robinjoy2789whoa. Reading that made me remember being gaslighted by an addict. There has to be an addictive force to it, to do life threatening harm despite knowing it's harmful. Interesting.
why did you put that in your face?
@@lxcas1123I think to eat it fella
And what's quite shocking is they dont tell people whats actually happening. The diet rich in simple carbs and sugars messes up gut flora and neurochemicals which all makes you just crave more junk food in turn making dopamine even more depleted and making you eat more and more to get same stimulation. Eating disorder has more to do with this dopamine mechanism than counting calories. Diet rich in fruit and veggies and protein will make losing weight much more easier since it will rebalance the brain and eliminate these cravings.
Joe and Bill taking the piss out of James Corden is always fun to hear.
No one likes that dude
Without defending the entirety of James Corden's public persona and career, Bill Maher has continually mischaracterized the point James Corden was making against him. Corden said that the obesity epidemic is absolutely a serious health crisis but that bullying and fat-shaming people aren't the ways to solve it and could actually increase obesity by causing depression, leading to self-destructive habits like overeating. Whether you agree with his point, he was not claiming that being obese wasn't unhealthy or that people's life choices couldn't affect their weight and health. Maher either didn't watch Corden's response or is willfully misinterpreting it because he has repeatedly said that James was making points that he explicitly stated the opposite of.
@@harryfranklin1263 - exactly
Where is this data that being fat and disease being sick have anything to do with each other that's all bullshit being fat is mostly genetic and living long is mostly genetic don't let them fool you these are just Pharmaceutical companies trying to push pills on people and also the exercise industry you think they're going to tell you the truth nope there's no money in that
It is funny being British and having more common ground with Joe and Bill than that arsehole
Totally agree. As a fat person trying to change my lifestyle and body. Lost 1.5” off my waist and 1” off my chest to far but only down 4 lbs. trying to focus on the fat, not the weight seems to be the critical thing I am finding I need to focus on.
Good job buddy. Keep it up
Might be gaining muscle. That’s why you might be losing inches but not that much weight.
Lookup carnivore diet.
You got it, just stay disciplined and in one year time you'll be a whole new person. 🎉
Good stuff, losing weight is relative, losing fat is a great goal.
I've lost 80 pounds the last year and he's right about the poop thing.😂 My whole digestive system works so much better in general. It's mainly the healthy diet though I'm sure.
80?! That’s insane dude well done
Congrats🎉🎉🎉 I wish you evelasting health❤
It’s also because a lot of the central fat which pushes your intestines and organs around is gone so your system works a lot better. This has happened to me both times I lost 90 lbs.
Congratulations on the hard work buddy! It can be really tough keeping your self-discipline at its highest level 24/7, but it’s absolutely worth it.
I just went through a big weight loss as well and my digestive system is infinitely better!
80 pounds in a year - that's fucking awesome. 👊
I'm sure you don't need anybody to say it, in order for you to know that you should be proud of yourself...
But we're going to.
Normal people: It’s not a disease. Stop it.
Drug companies: It’s a disease. We can help you.
Exactly
People buying drugs because they are lazy. It’s a fair exchange in my opinion
If you know anything about eating disorders like binge eating disorder it's often rooted in psychological issues. That doesn't make it any less relevant. Normal people don't exist. If you're referring to people on here I think I see a lot of people who don't understand addiction.
It is a disease. As a psych student and also an addict I can assure you it is a diseaase lol
Okay so is type 2 diabetes not a disease then? It's just what happens when you eat too much sugar right?
Calling it a disease is an easy way for people to avoid the responsibility of actually having to take care of themselves!!
Exactly
Just like drug addicts and alcoholics
I agree. For alcoholics, just drink less or stop drinking and your problems will be over. I mean I've never been an alcoholic but it must be easy to fix, right?
Yea because over eating and under exercising is exactly comparable to being an alcoholic or addicted to opioids 🙄
Calling it a disease means that they can sell you a pill to cure it
I’ve recently lost 120 pounds and Joe is right if anyone is trying to lose weight it’s definitely not easy but if you train your mind and work hard at it just like anything else in this world it is more than doable. Granted I do understand some people have reasons for weight gain and loss, so that is understandable…
Wow 120! That takes a lot of fortitude. I don't know you but I am proud of you. May good health be upon you for all your days 🎉❤
Keep it up big dawg I'm currently at the gym trying to get back down to my healthy weight. At one point I had lost 200 pounds and I unfortunately put about 80 back on but it's doable and your goal is something you will achieve if you just stick to it and stay motivated!
But that is PRECISELY the problem. You have to train your mind! People who have mental problems and are dealing with things like childhood abuse, SA, ptsd, etc find it hard to train their mind! Most of the fight is mental because I do believe most people now know that they are doing the wrong things to get to a healthy weight.
I feel like there’s a switch that has to go off, that makes the threat of future disappointment stronger than the desire for immediate satisfaction. I still haven’t found it.
I agree with everyone 100%… when it comes to health it’s not a sprint it’s a marathon and people forget that sometimes, and it comes in all parts of your life, menatal, physical,emotional,and trying to be as stress free as one can, witch is not an easy task these days lol…I appreciate all the support and hope everyone is living to their fullest and enjoying all that life has to offer…
Never been overweight, but I’ve had other problems where doctors just offered me pills rather than helping me address the root cause. I strongly declined. Respect for you guys who are also taking responsibility for your situation!
How do you address the root cause of primary hypertension?
@@bengalslash Is this guy supposed to be your personal search engine? Look it up.
Doctors make me sick. Irony, eh? But you can't question them because they're beyond reproach due to the occasional saving of a life. What a racket.
@@holdensaganyou have single digit iq
Yeah! I don't need medication for my schizophrenia! Just help me find the root cause!
I was obese for my whole adult life. lost 100lbs and now have a healthy bmi. It's discipline, diet and exercise and I was fat because of my choices
I was very skinny but active in high school, and gained "only" 50 lbs in a few years because of constant stress-eating in university. It absolutely made me more lethargic, unhealthy, and unconfident. The more weight I lose, the happier I am. There's a direct correlation there. And even if you have a genetic disposition to obesity and related illnesses like I do, it's no excuse to avoid being healthy. *Very* few people are genuinely unable to stay healthy; the majority just can't get to that point (like me for most of my past weight loss attempts). Personal responsibility is key.
Somehow the anti-bullying movement went from "don't tell people to off themselves for being fat, just be polite" to "obesity is actually good and you're a narrow-minded, racist bigot for daring to think otherwise". It's another example of weaponized empathy, and it's genuinely leading people who don't know any better to quicker deaths.
I’m similar, I’ve been between at roughly 155 for last five years but before that my weight fluctuated my entire life. At my heaviest I was pushing 320 lbs and it was entirely from binge eating and beer.
BMI is not a good judgment of health. But congrats otherwise mate! 100 pounds is like a whole nother person!
Intermittent fasting is literally a cheat code. Anyone who doesn’t do it is dumb
Same here. Was 310 lbs. Down to 205. Feel way way better . Discipline does wonders😊
I stopped drinking soda back in March of 2022 and started exercising regularly in July of that year, I went from being obese at 298lbs down to 185lbs and not being overweight for the first time in my adult life.
Diet and exercise makes all the difference.
You must have been drinking a TON of soda if that's the main change. Exercise doesn't really burn all that many calories. Surely you did more than that to lose that much weight?
I have a hard time with the soda. Good job.
@@usaman7358 bruh.
You nailed it “diet” soda too, I bet. That shit is poison, I think aspertame causes you to retain fluid’s. Adding the word “diet” to anything doesn’t mean it’s good for you.
@@usaman73581 can of coke is 140 calories. Lets say someone drinks about 5 cans worth of coke thats a 700 calorie deficit if you cut it out.
It baffles me how Bill can have these lucid moments while at the same time having some of the absolute worst takes
I think it's just intellectual dishonesty
Yes, he contradicts himself constantly. He should watch a compilation of his own takes.
this was a terrible take though. He is complaining that people consider obesity a disease and that it's not considered not curable....Some diseases are curable Bill..... They later both agree that food addiction leads to obesity and food addiction is real...which is the disease...Bil Maher puts less than zero thought into his political views. Joe Rogan also puts zero but at least is intelligent enough to respond correctly when he hears nonsense.
This is what happens when you take away their writers and now they have to rely on their tiny little brains to come up with their own thoughts
Have you ever listened to Joe lol
I’ve lost 90lbs overall. I go up and down but I’ve kept most of it off. It is hard.
I’ve been overweight my whole life and it sucks. I know it sucks and it’s still hard to stay disciplined with diet and exercise.
You have to change your lifestyle. People think they can diet , lose weight, and then go back to how they were eating and living. It don’t work that way. It has to be a permanent change.
No they dont.
@@cameltoelicker-rv6poyes they do. Seen it everyday. Guys lose a bunch of weight and gain it all back after 6 months and seem shocked. People aren't smart
Its definitly a public health issue requiring a public solution. Id be all for banning transformed sugar in the country.
My mother always says, “nobody ever got fat because they ate too much broccoli.”
💯
If Broccoli would taste good it would be no problem, but fast food just tastes 10x better and it's affordable.
@@melinagoranson
Eat more fiber.
If the add a lot of butter and cheese they can 😂😂
Brocolli is was more affordable. I got a big bag of it for about 2.30@@melinagoranson
Eating too many calories of anything will cause weight gain
As a man who lost 100lbs and i feel EXCELLENT. I finally got tired of looking and feeling like 💩 and decided to do something about it for myself.
Good on you man .
Well done, king
Good shit man🙌🏾
INCREDIBLE! :)
F yes way to be!
The comparison with alcoholism is interesting. I used to be in OA, not for overeating but more for anorexia. There is a 12 step method for eating disorders whether that leaves people over or underweight. They have like different approaches, some people are "grey sheet" (a specific diet printed on a grey sheet). One helpful thing for me was to talk about childhood trauma (hiding food in my room so my sister & I could eat regardless of drunk drama, police being at the house, whatever) and also just they have these wallet cards with steps to "12 step" a problem. So it can walk you through problem solving in a healthy way, so you're not eating at a problem or restricting at a problem or avoiding it, you just have a formula you can follow to make better decisions.
It's not perfect but it did help me a lot. I still have the wallet card, I'll look at it like on the train during my commute sometimes before work to get my mindset right for the day. One interesting thing: a lot of 12 step meetings never went back to face-to-face after COVID. They're still like Zoom only. So you can't get the same connection of even being in a room with people with the same problem. People are still afraid to go back. It kind of sucks because that kind of face to face connection/support can be helpful.
What’s OA?
@@Ayan-bp4dq Overeaters Anonymous. It's a 12 step group for eating disorders, anorexics and bulimics go too
I'm proud to have helped my own 12-step group (ACA) go back to in-person after being online-only for COVID.
In the ACA-world, overeating is one of many, many techniques people use to avoid feeling what they don't want to, but need to, feel.
Having a safe place to talk about your problems is one of the most beautiful and helpful things in the world. I agree it's not perfect - you need to make sure it's helpful for you, and make it your own - but it's been really positive for me.
Are the 13th steppers still able to prey on vulnerable hot chicks on Zoom?
the biggest keyword..... TRAUMA.... we have yet to truly understand how WIDELY different we all respond to trauma.
I'm in Ireland and I am on Ozempic as there is a long history of type 2 diabetes in my family, I also have MS so exercise is draining and even though I was walking 6 km a day , my weight was ballooning ....hit 20st my doctor put me on Ozempic as my Blood sugar levels were through the roof. Since I was on it , I have lost two stone and last year I had to have Brain surgery , the doctors came to me and asked me why did my charts say I was diabetic? As My blood sugar levels in the pre op tests now read normal ....Doctors then told me the problem is now that I'm on it , I have to stay on it to keep my blood sugar under control...now with everyone taking it to lose weight , it's becoming incredibly difficult for pharmacies to get enough for those of us on prescription.
Labeling addiction as a disease increases the ability for doctors to bill insurance companies for the treatment. They are less likely to cover care for psychological conditions.
the best treatment is caloric deficit lol
i just said the same thing about obesity. agree totally
Thank god I found a smart comment
Yep. It's a technicality.
Funny thing is that all this shit is happening only in America, Canada and Australia. No one else caters to the feelings of woke victimhood like US does
Slut shaming, weight shaming, entertaining childhood transitions of kids, kids shutting down teachers/professors for microaggressions, weird sexual books for really young kids, laws against deadnaming, Pride month with extremely lude public acts -all American ideas. This empire will collapse just like the Roman empire did
I’ve been physically active since a kid. When I hear people say”I don’t workout” shit blows my mind. Not just for health but mentally. Shits wild
Some of us just get tired of it. I was a varsity athlete freshman to senior year in highschool all the Xcountry indoor and outdoor track. But some of us get sick of it. Then we work out again years and years later and realize it’s cool when it’s not a competition. But some of us say eff it.
You can be physically active without "working out" it's wild.
@@Farnsworth11 That's crazy....
I put on about 20 kgs during the pandemic and weighed 120 kgs the heaviest I have ever been. Ate like shit and felt good when I ate because it coped with loneliness and depression. Now I am close to losing all that weight I gained thanks to training Muay Thai. Obesity is no damn disease it's a choice!
*In 1965 a girl in my class got a full scholarship to college because she was*
*obese. Make that make sense?*
Putting your shoes on the desk says everything about this mans character. 😂
I used to be 313lbs and guess what. I stopped eating as much and eating better. And wouldn’t you know I lost over 100lbs and kept it off.
Nice work! I was 325 and now 182
@@buckyes6749 awesome! I am at 196. But I still want to drop down some more.
295-->205, I went with intermittent fasting and now I going back to small meals to spread those calories out more. Getting your stomach to shrink helps a lot, so start slow and stick with it works wonders.
@@TheCrazyCanuck420 that is great! I have done intermittent fasting as well. It worked great for me.
It’s way more complex than your little brain can handle but yes eating less and moving more is the general rule to weight loss
You can't dismiss the mass influx of cheap, processed foods into the American diet and that effect over the last 30-40 years (especially combined with middle class wage reduction). Not that they support the disease theory; but definitely the addictive aspect. Add to this that Philip Morris and RJ Reynolds own most of it, and it makes total sense why people are addicted to it.
its insane. Just walking down the Isles is like all junk food.
My diet consist of meat, veggies and juices. Idk how people eat all that other shit. Soda Included.
Or the people that need a cup of ranch dressing to be used as a dip, for anytime they eat vegetables or even chicken.
@@willyjf6193 Some juices are comparable to soda in terms of sugar content, and not all of it is natural. Be careful with your choices in that category. I just eat fruit and drink water instead.
I think the fast food industry has a lot to do with that, all the food that's bad for you benefited from economies of scale and the population chubbed up with them. Now nutritional food is often expensive, whereas the crap clogging up our hearts is super cheap. That's why the poor are disproportionately fatter than most others, they simply can't afford to eat healthy.
@@BCNeil As I said, those "people" started with the ranch dip as kids 25 years ago. It's only become worse from there.
I was never super over weight, but i did need to lose about 45 lbs. I did that with keto -> fat adaptation, staying under my maintenance and also intermittent fasting all rolled into one. I did this during COVID lockdown and also strength trained at the same time. I was the leanest, strongest and the healthiest i've ever been. And one thing i can tell you, i'm a refined sugar CARBOHOLIC.
The secret is discipline, lots and lots of discipline - even when every inch of your body and mind is telling you to eat that doughnut that'll cause you to snowball. It's absolutely a losing battle if you dont force yourself to be disciplined and not be "fun" by going out with friends for dinners and drinks.
The muscle loss comes from lack of exercise while in a deficit. The same thing would happen if you were off the drug
Congrats of your weight loss, hope you will be able to maintain it for life :)
I need to disagree with you though - discipline will never be the ultimate way to achieve life long goals. We are not made to stay super focused and disciplined overe anything for life - state of concentration and discipline is good for us for achievieng short-term goals, in terms of dieting it might be cutting weight for competition for example, but staying disciplined for life is simply tiring and drives you to break eventually.
You need to find a way to stay healthy without forcing yourself to do so, otherwise it's gonna be a constant battle.
Me - overweight whole life, at my 28 I realized I'm obese. Drinking too often and too much, doing drugs and eating for fun. It took me a year to go cut from 120kg jelly to 93kg lean, I looked amazing then, but It was a struggle - everyday hour or more cardio, strict calories counting, no going out for dinners and drinks with friends, strenght training 5 days a week.
Now I'm 34, 103kg weight, still looks good, strong AF, 3 trainings a week, sometimes I eat junk-food, sometimes I drink, sometimes I do drugs, I do not count calories and I maintain body weight for 3 years now :)
275lbs 6ft2 last year. Down to 195 now and a lot of that was muscle gained. Take care of yourself. The gym and good eating fixed like 80% of my problems in life.
I'm a former morbidly obese 340lb depressed and suicidal teen, and at no point did I have a "disease". I had underlying psychological trauma from living in a 'chaotic' home and nearly daily bullying in school. I self medicated by over eating, until I became unrecognizable. One day I woke up, sick and tired of being an undisciplined whale and decided to change my life. In 2 years I lost 160lbs and transformed myself physically, and healed myself from anxiety and depression. All it took was daily consistent exercise, counting calories and patience for the weight to come off. Unless you have a thyroid issue, if you're obese it's because you over consume food, you are not burdened with a 'disease'.
Massive respect . Keep it up, don’t ever stop grinding . 👍👊
Nailed it! Also, great job! Wish you the best.
well according to google the definition of disease is "a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that has a known cause and a distinctive group of symptoms, signs, or anatomical changes." which I kind of feel like that sounds like obesity. I mean obesity is a disorder of function in human beings, the function being things like not dying of heart disease, seeing your own dick when you look down, etc etc. I don't really see any problem with calling it a disease, no one ever said disease had to come from bacteria or something. Anyway it's all just semantics for fun I'm not being super serious right now.
@@pointlessmanatee "according to Google." Obesity is not a "disorder" of function. The function of weight control is fine, the eating bad food or too much is the issue. AKA: the function was fine until the person pushed the function past it's breaking point by their choices.
Real talk, stay strong and good for you!
Two years ago, my A1C was 5.8 and my doc offered to put me on medication right away to manage it. I refused, cut out carbs, returned 8 months later having lost 50 lbs. Now my A1C is 5.3 and back in the normal range. I love my doctor -- been going to her for decades -- but her eagerness to just throw pills at the issue made me smarten the fuck up and change my ways.
Yeah your A1C didn't call for medication at ALL. You can diet and exercise that right down. Also you gotta make sure your thyroid is ok. Hypothyroidism will bring your A1C and cholesterol RIGHT UP.
@@tyrfree5733 I've been lucky. Cholesterol has always been decent. Here's to hoping there aren't any statins in my future 🤞
Damn you're smart. I had similar issues. Doctors are always trying to fix symptoms with pills
Way to go on you!! You fixed the root of the problem. It’s fucking wild now that anything that is seen as “off/ odd” we just throw a pill at.
In any profession there will be good and bad people, some of those bad people might push medications to get kickbacks. You can say that’s an issue but what also should be addressed is human nature.
Another reason doctors are so quick to prescribe medications over diet/exercise is because statistically, their patients won’t diet/exercise and make the necessary life changes so it’s safer for them to prescribe medication.
Good for you though bro doing it the right way.
I work in health care and it is mind blowing how different we think about obesity. Obesity definitely causes so many diseases. But obesity in itself being a disease that needs medical attention and treated in a way that other disease are treated. I think we need to start being more honest to our patients.
Lies 😭 just put the food down 🤦🏾♂️
It's the same as smoking cigarettes. It's a choice that leads to disease
I struggle with weight but found something that's working for me.
It's scary how the medical industry is treating it as a disease. The best explanation I have heard is our bodies are smart and trying to keep us alive by always being hungry because the food we are eating is low in vitamins and nutrients. So our brains are always being triggered that we're hungry.
Eat high nutritious, whole foods and we won't have the same cravings or desire for food like we do now. Our bodies are like a machine. Give it what it needs and it will function properly.
I swear by this concept because it's working for me. Lost 50 lbs in 5 months. Without starving or undereating. I ate to satisfaction but chose foods high in a variety of vitamins and nutrients.
Hope you are learning to love and respect yourself again man. That is the true first step in conquering obesity. Wishing you the best of luck in life.
The medical industry is always looking for an angle to make a buck.
I was 360 lbs and it was no one’s fault but my own. I was depressed, not exercising and had atrocious eating habits. Since I’ve changed my lifestyle to exercise almost every day and a 2000 calorie high protein diet I’ve lost 75 lbs and hope to lose 60 more. It’s all up to you. Either deal with how hard it is to exercise and diet or deal with how hard it is being morbidly obese and all the related health problems.
The food landscape is poisoned with UPF - try reading Ultra Processed People by Chris VanTulleken.
Exactly! Its simple but not easy. Good luck on your journey
Choose your hard
The amount of fat people actually blaming others for their predicament is low. With the extremes being used as talking points. What if you were forced to do what you did? What if you had economic or social constraints put on you because of your weight? That's the direction these two assholes want to steer the Country.
depressions isn't real it's called playing the victim card. this comment proves this
The fact that Tess Holliday went on a press tour saying she was anorexic as a morbidly obese woman and never had any serious pushback shows how far down the rabbit hole we’ve gone with this
seriously?? wtACTUALf
lol
i think she had pushback from every internet comment anyone ever made about it, just not the TV show hosts who are basically just actors anyway
Anorexia doesn't have to lead to malnutrition. It only means that you're throwing up your food regularly out of shame over your body, which is a psychological problem no matter how you objectively look.
@@funnyyellowdog8833 that's called bulimia lol anorexia is just not eating
The same is true of people who CHOOSE to abuse substances. Calling it a "disease" is frequently used to avoid responsibility for personal choices.
And it's a bit shameful because you know there are people with actual diseases that they cannot influence but otherwise they make good disciplined choices @JonKrueger
As a truck driver, I lost over 40 lbs 2 yrs, and tbh it’s all a mindset thing and how well you discipline yourself, because I started working out and ate a lot of subway, fruits and salads at the truck stops, I know it’s not the best choice of nutritional options but it was convenient for me. . I also cooked my meals on my truck too but I wish these truck stops had more variety of healthy foods us truck drivers can eat. . Because Wendy’s, McDonald’s, Burger King is not it
Thx for your service!! Doing important work.
Joe and his guests have taught me a lot about how to lose weight. I have lost 145 pounds from my heaviest. If I could have learned about intermittent fasting ( from Joes podcast) earlier in life it would not have taken me so many years. I am down to my Jr high wrestling weight now and have drastically reduced my diabetes. You gotta move your body every day and stick with one meal.
Doesn’t work for everyone - but it worked for me. I am 56
I think it works for almost everyone that actually sticks with it, like you did. Thyroid and other complications are very rare.
Congrats on all that success! 👍
Good for you!! Put work in get results out
Which podcast was that?
Hell yea that's great! You from ohio?
I would argue that in places like the US it is far more difficult to maintain a healthy weight due to their horrific food regulations where the stuff you get from a store is rancid oils covered with high fructose corn syrup and petroleum derived colouring agents. It's not that it's not good for you, it's actively toxic.
and you would be wrong
@@Waywardbiscuithow so. I am not an expert but I have family overseas and they complain whenever they come here abt everything the OP of this comment said
in addition the US was built for cars. In many places, people can't do anything walking distance and are forced to use a vehicle.
And it so much harder for me because of genetics! Sad to hear that it’s so hard to eat healthily in the US and to not be able to find anywhere to walk either. That must be the reasons why eating more calories than you burn off occurs so much in the country.
Not saying it’s easy, but people are dancing round the main problems, over eating of unhealthy food and lack of exercise. imo.
@@IrepDoubleurmax Just don't buy that stuff. All of the food that doesn't have that junk in it is just as available as the junk food at grocery stores. People make the decision to walk past fresh vegetables and buy junk every day. That's on them.
I've lost about 80-90 lbs over the past few years. It is one of the best things I've ever done. I feel so much better and have so much more energy each day. I was able to do this because I am in control of my body and what I put in it and how much I move it. Was losing this weight easy? No, but it is possible.
I took Ozempic for 3 weeks and got very sick. It gave me horrible gastrointestinal issues. I was throwing up uncontrollably, going diarrhea all day and my food was not digesting. It was horrible! I'm not horribly overweight and not diabetic but my doctor prescribed it to me because I wanted to lose weight. Avoid at all costs!
Its a diabetic drug, and should not be used by overweight people looking to lose a few
I love how bill is talking about health as he coughs from all the smoking
And are his feet/shoes on Joe's table?!?!?!
😂😂😂
And he's built like a 70 year old 100lb lady.
He’s not claiming his possible nicotine addiction is a disease and that we should have smoker positivity in this country. Big difference
We found the the fat guy/girl watching
I believe Honey-nut Cheerios are key to a heart healthy diet!
Keep it going! Nice work, it’s not easy but can be done!!
The first part is always the hardest. You've taken the first step, that's a big deal. Keep it going.
Good on you, I was up to 340 and I'm currently at 230, keep up the good work, it's a lifestyle change more than anything for me.
Good stuff! I’m going through the opposite. I’m 40 pounds underweight and trying to cram in 2-3k calories a day. it’s a challenge. then working out to turn it into muscle mass.
Wow!!!...30lbs in the past 2yrs!!!...keep it up and by 2027 you could be down to 180-200lbs and in shape:)
Gary you are an absolute legend. One of the only pundits to be telling the truth about the situation clearly and unabashed.
One of my favorite Bill Maher quotes on obesity: “Have you ever seen a fat 90 year old”
William Shatner?
Tbf growing old also makes you more frail
I'm 15 pounds overweight and I feel worse than when I wasn't
Isnt that normal
Hey, it might be time to make a change.. you don’t have to dive full in, just start with not eating an two hours before bed and drink more water. Because you admitting to your own fault and consequences, should show you that you are ready for a change. Best of luck but you don’t need it, you can do it
The plus side is you’ll knock that off in no time by making a few small changes.
No kidding - 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Einstein
You sir are a great philosapher.
Kyle Dunnigan is getting spot on with his impressions, he even looks like Bill now .
Bill doesn’t like Kyle.
@@len3169 Joe loooooves Kyle.... a little too much maybe
Gotta get the moonies
Love Kyle
Yeah but Klye says Ok alot
People avoid suffering which leads to addiction. Same is true no matter if your poison is drugs or excessive eating.
What time of the podcast would I need to start to go to where they ended?
I’m formerly 240 lbs and I’m currently 168 lbs. In 2017, I got down to welterweight. I’ve fluctuated in weight and anytime I’ve been overweight, it’s because of sugar intake, too much eating, eating before bedtime and a lack of exercise. I do have chronic pain, but eating better and walking a lot helps. I’m sure it’s different for some individuals, but I wasn’t about to accept my poor choices. Self acceptance is good, but it should never become a reason to not change for the better.
I lost over 200lbs (currently at a healthy weight of 165 at 6'-2") and I was able to do it with intermittent fasting/calorie counting and hitting 10k steps a day. I've kept the weight off for like 6 years now. I have very little to no stretch marks. Intermittent fasting is the way humans are designed to eat. Not 12 small meals BS.
Congrats man! Keep it up!!
Sugar - carbohydrates cause inflammation. 2 knee , 1 elbow, 1 back surgery after 33 years at UPS. Went Keto, got back to my ideal weight quickly. Inflammation decreased substantially. I still keep my carbs super low and intermittent fast, but when I take occasional breaks during holidays and such, aches and pains return. Especially if I load up on the deserts and sweets.
Currently lost 137lbs. All it took was calorie counting, gym and steps. Are we really in a position now where medical professionals are questioning that that's the mechanism for fat loss?
Eating before bed has nothing to do with it. Pure calories in calories out.
This guys Kyle Dunnigan impression is perfect.
😂
You’re wrong, okkaaaaaay
Ha!
Kyle does a more coherent Bill than Bill does.
Bill's a good dude.......he's a true liberal. He's always been......he's just a "celebrity". They're all a little weird. That's okay though.
I really think the price and quality of food needs to be part of this conversation too though. 24 oz of kale from Safeway is $6, and that's the cheapest per volume I could find. You can get a two cheeseburger meal from a fastfood chain, which I think includes fries and a soda, for $4.89. A big part of the problem, in my view, is that the cheapest, most convenient options are high calorie, low quality foods.
Good to hear Jo talking about Peter Attia and his research and his medical practice.
I was gonna skip exercise today, James Corden was just the motivation I needed.
One meal a day and 30 minutes in the gym daily. Lost 50 lbs. in two years to 176. 60 years old. Looking fantastic!
Nice one
Great job.
I need to gain weight, 50 pounds underweight 5'9 at 112 actually lost 2 pounds wish i have your issue and the money how do you even have the money too weigh 170
@@perrycoffey5410weight lift until ur sore. Try working out 3-4 times a week. It'll help activate ur hunger. And when ur sore, food will help u gain weight if u eat a lot. If ur not sore, idk if it'll work. It's a learning curve that I'm still working on. Gained a few pounds so far
@@perrycoffey5410what im doing is. Upper body lifting, rest day, lower body lifting, rest day, upper body lifting, rest day, lower body lifting, rest day. I was doing upper body lifting, lower body lifting, then two or three rest days and it wasnt activating my hunger as much as it is now with just one rest day in between
4:13 Also, in 1969 doctors were handing out speed as diet pills like it was candy.
My mother's doctor had her time-release speed as diet pills when I was a kid, I remember seeing them when I was 6, in 1970. Also remember taking them when I was 11 in 1975. So she was on at least that long. Was common then.
Same with addiction. I got a feeling it's a way to bill insurance for treatment?
I have battled weight my entire life. The “sick” part of that is that it almost always LEARNED BEHAVIORS. Food was my drug, my coping mechanism. It was how I numbed out. In my 30’s, I allowed my 5’3 frame to get to 306lbs. I no longer struggle and HOW doesn’t matter nor is anyone’s business, the point is, while I feel it IS an illness of some kind, teaching people they “can’t help it” is dangerous and it’s not helping anyone.
They also purposefully put ingredients in food to make it addictive. Glad you changed your life and health.
The behavior of overeating in some people has literally hijacked the brains reward system and is by strict definition a disease. People without addictive issues or with natural high metabolisms often have zero empathy for these people as you can tell by this comment section. I totally agree with you, it's not healthy but it isn't an excuse to crap on people.
Are successful in getting your weight down ? If so, what helped ?
I kind of agree with you. How I look at obesity is that its a "result" of a disease. The disease in my opinion is an eating disorder. A lot of people may disagree but I believe that majority of individuals that fall into the category of being obese have an unhealthy/unmanaged relationship with food. Any rational person wouldn't sit back and tell an anorexic person to "just eat more" or an alcoholic to "just don't drink" or "just control yourself and drink less". Most people can look past themselves and understand that statements like that are absurdly ignorant because even though they may have a healthy relationship with food or alcohol that's not the reality of someone with a disease in the form of an eating disorder or addiction. Like anorexia and alcoholism change and a healthier mind and body is possible for someone with an eating disorder that has resulted in their body being obese. But it will require a strong commitment to rehabilitation.
It’s not a sickness or a disorder. It’s an addiction and people struggle mightily with self control.
It taste good so we eat it. Pleasure
Fascinating point by joe near the end. It can be a disease and have a cure. Once you're aware of your habits and patterns, you can change them. Before you are, youre stuck in a loop.
Good point, if we label something one way it doesn’t mean we have an excuse to not doing anything about it
May I express my admiration for the brave people in this chat who have decided to lose weight and succeeded. Because I am 70 and brought up in an era with generally more natural food, I am not obese and this is NOT because I am not greedy. I am extremely greedy but my body was healthy in those first few years eg breast fed and no processed stuff for first ten years of my life. I think people who are obese are victims of malnutrition that started as babies. So I just want to say to those people, well done for trying to put things right now. There is no shame on your side. The people who should feel shame are the food companies and the greedy shareholders who profit from all this and the corrupt politicians who refuse to legislate.
I has a stylist tell me she cut out a sizeable portion of her digestive system to lose weight. Nice lady, so I felt bad :(
The diet she had to stick to after this surgery... I didn't ask, but thought, "You did not need to diet this hard if you just dieted normal first." It is crazy what people feel like they need to do to lose weight, almost like they can't without a terrible surgery!
I'm a fat guy, and at the end of the day nobody did that to me but me.
You need to do some research into nutritional value in this country and why Americans are the fattest also did u know the food pyramid was a marketing plot to sell more (carbs)
@@lady4191 None of that makes what the original comment stated incorrect. People make their own decisions when it comes to what they consume.
@@stoptrackingourdata8158well OPs bio says that we must think like them otherwise they will be crushed lol
I was also until I found Carnivore diet. Dropped 50 lbs and changed my life.
I eat like a king also. It's amazing.
Burn more calories then you consume, it's that simple.
My biggest regret is thinking a pill could help me lose weight. I was depressed. Then I gave myself a chance and start self auditing what Ive been doing. Slowly, things began to change. Sugar is my biggest weakness
Me too. It's tough. Stay strong! Eat more berries and fresh vegetables.
That's western culture for you, we're obsessed with trying to find an easy way to get the results that typically require hard work.
Sugar is my nemesis...I try to eat a lot of protein, my sweets consist of Greek yogurt with stevia and berries and I use stevia in iced coffees etc. It has helped me not be miserable. I did keto but too much added dietary saturated fat is not ideal. I try to stick to leaner cuts of meat and veggies plus I do a fasting mimicking diet every month. It's totally doable, but I would be Leary of the people who claim their way is the only way. Sustainability is the only thing that really matters when health and weight loss/maintenance is your goal. If you can't do it consistently it won't work.
Don't get discouraged. There aren't shortcuts and you shouldn't short circuit your life either. Genetics and biological gender does play a part. What foods you can buy and how your work/life balance influences your schedule and options is only in your control in a limited way. Make good choices when you can, rely on an accountability partner of you struggle here. You are human.
If it makes you feel better, the depression you felt or are still feeling is really more connected to sugar(or as I will explain later) than to weight. For example I was never really fat, my heaviest was 210 pounds but I am quite built 6'1 guy so no one really looked at me as fat, more like just good build. But for other reasons I wanted to lose weight and I am down to 185 now but would you believe I had periods of depression at 185 I never felt when I was the heaviest. After watching various videos I connected the dots and yeah, my diet was heavy in simple carbs and sugars with very little veggies. It turns out the gut bacteria is essential for mental well being. I am back to eating saurkraut almost everyday, fruits and veggies everyday and improvement is already noticeable. Just the other day I bought pizza and icecream and boy did my mood drop after that was digested, the whole next day or two I felt it. Obviously its not the same for everyone but I feel like I have to go on extended periods of no junk foods to repair all the damage to gut and brain and re balance all these neurochemicals.
Doctors absolutely know why it works lol it has been used for diabetics for years.
"Ozempic works by mimicking a naturally occurring hormone. As those hormone levels rise, the molecules go to your brain, telling it you're full. It also slows digestion by increasing the time it takes for food to leave the body. This is similar to the effect of bariatric surgery."
Wish this episode was longer
As a proud 34 year old who has lost over 60kg in less than two years, I can confidently say working out and eating right is the best way to go. My confidence level is off the charts too!!! Haha
I went from 141kg to 77kg by moving my fat ass around. I started from 30mins morning walks by 6am, to, today, an hour walk and an hour run from 4am-6am, everyday unless it rains.
I didn't know I had it in me.
same here! morning walks/runs are the best. and its important to do it slow and gradually ramp up...! good on ya
@@yonanz yes!! Thank you!!!
@chiomaokoroafor116 good for you
i know how hard it is to lose that much weight and the sacrifises you make to achive that goal.
proud of you
Glad you put the cake down.
Keep going mate!👍
Mechanism of Action:
Glucagon-like peptide-1 (GLP-1) agonist
Weight management: GLP-1 is a physiological regulator of appetite and caloric intake, and the GLP-1 receptor is present in several areas of the brain involved in appetite regulation
I hate how bill Maher assumes that we are all as dumb and ignorant as he is.
And I'm going to guess that the loss of muscle and connective tissue is due to people not eating enough due to lowered appetites, not because the drug is evil.
@@sd5919 it’s literally the deficits in macronutrients. The bodybuilding guys already figured this shit out.
Yeah I won’t call him out for being a liar but he is very mistaken if he thinks we don’t know why GLP-1 agonists work. This isn’t the 1800s where we throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks, now we make medications based on our understanding of physiology and the medications behave almost exactly as they were expected to.
The solution is rucking- walking with a weighted backpack. I added 13 pound weights to my backpack and i carry it everyday to work.. i have a 20 minute commute each way. So 40 minutes of walking daily, with a weighted bag. Builds stamina, strength, burns extra calories than walking alone, great for heart health
It's a very string GLP-1 receptor inhibitor. Among potential effects
it's not a disease but it sure is an epidemic
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Fast food culture/prices isn't helping.
Why hasn't it spread to Asia or Africa?
@@kuryaku5906 Fast food is wrecking people. I walk my dog by a bakery every morning. Tons of obese people go in. No wonder. Lots of sugary/icing foods.
Smells great. No way would I have the discipline to eat just 1, so i don’t even go in there. Those people must have a crazy level of addiction.
@@PhonkEcho 😂👏👍
Glad you brought up food addiction. It's a thing, and needs to be talked about.
If more people viewed their unhealthy eating habits as an addiction they might get turned around and lose some weight and improve their health.
Not really. That's not how addiction works. I am addicted and it doesn't change anything about my addiction. On the contrary, it makes me feel even worse that I am addicted and that worse feeling makes me even more addicted in order to kill the mental pain that comes from the shame.
Isnt it ironic insurance companies can charge smokers more but not fat people? It pisses me off personally. Why should I pay more when I am healthy?!
Food addiction isn't a thing. Food just tastes really good so it's very easy to over consume. I can have some sympathy for very overweight people because I do recognize that genetics plays a role in hunger hormones and how full someone feels after they eat.
Same thing goes when people say they're addicted to sugar. No. No one is just sitting there eating table sugar. They're eating it in conjunction with fat/salt, and that combination tastes amazing. Incredibly enjoyable and easy to over consume is not the same as an addiction.
Yup, my mom got my addicted to food at an early age. Been eating almost every day since
@JimShury you didn't do well in school I reckon
All bad or detrimental behavior in society is now scapegoated as a disease or disorder.
Ozempic works by mimicking a naturally occurring hormone. As those hormone levels rise, the molecules go to your brain, telling it you're full. It also slows digestion by increasing the time it takes for food to leave the body. This is similar to the effect of bariatric surgery.
part is genetic; part is sedentary lifestyle; part is geoengineering of food; part is addictions. the fact is we are a fat/obese society
Not really, you're a lazy fucks society... Keeping yuor weight at a healthy level is not that hard, when you're willing to take more than 30 seconds
Excuses excuses
@@WatchingWithMyEyesClosedit's not excuses. Many chronic disease and medications can make you gain weight
exactly it’s a lot of things. Honestly every time I got to the store I get a little depressed because everything is fucked, even the fruit and veggies
In 40 years, US obesity went from 15.7% in 1970 to 38.8% in 2010 - nothing changed in our genes in 40 years.
I've lost 60 pounds since January of this year. The ONLY thing I changed was the quantity and quality of my food. No extra exercise was required. The key is consistency. If you remain at a daily calorie deficit for an extended period of time, you WILL lose weight.
@@KAT-dg6el Then either you don't need to lose any weight or you have a medical condition.
Great video thank you
As someone who's recently lost 120 pounds, obesity is not a joke. It is not healthy, but it can be tackled. Its ok to want to be healthier.
"Sounds like you've been hanging out in the hot tub with Bill Maher too much... You got a God shaped hole in your heart." Norm MacDonald (RIP)
Just curious, what is God “shaped” like?
@@josiffexplosiff1
Love
@@josiffexplosiff1 The expression is to describe a void in the heart that yearns to be filled with spiritual transcendence
Gastrointestinal issues are the #1 issues we see with this in the ED. It commonly occurs when folks start rapidly losing weight while continuing to increase their dose.
🇲🇽 In order to combat childhood obesity, in 2018, Mexico passed a law banning cartoon mascots to promote junk food. So, if you go into a Mexican grocery store, you can still buy sugary cereals, cookies, and cakes, but there are no cartoons on the box. No Trix Rabbit. No Captain Crunch. Nothing,.
I just found out something even crazier! In the Mexican states of Oaxaca and Tabasco, it is now illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to buy junk food!
I lost 60lbs and im now a healthy 80kgs and run 20km a few times a week. It completely turned my life around but it is hard. Its not a disease but its a mental issue 100%. Its forcing yourself to not do something that give you instant dopamine rush.
To put it into perspective for someone like Joe its like asking him to just stop going to the gym and not working out for 6 months. For someone whos life is all about thst lifestyle its super difficult but youre a better person once you do it.
You do not run 20 km a few times a week lol. More like 2 km a few times a week, which is still a lot compared to the average. (I checked Google maps in my area to see what 20 km is and it's a lot). Especially for someone that's walked 10 km like myself in what felt like 5-7 h.
@@JetteroHeller83how do you know they don’t ? I run 20 k twice a week
@@JetteroHeller83 okay so because you cant cant run for that long no one else can? I do a 20km in about 90-100 minutes, its not that difficult but it took years of consistently training and exercising. I've been running for about 14 years now consistently a few times a week to during lockdown running 10km a day every day for a month just because I was bored. Somedays are sore, somedays are slow. I'm currently training to do a marathon so I've stepped up my distance and training.
Also walking 10km should only take about 2 hours at a normal walking pace. Are you that unfit?
Losing weight is like getting out of bad debt, doing the bare minimum and missing payments and it will snowball and get more difficult but if you make sacrifices and have discipline it will soon become second nature the new habits you have adopted
So many people are overweight from just depression and/or whatever they are dealing with in their lives. just like people that drink too much. Its a way to feel good for a little bit. People that are fat know how to lose weight, but the drive is just gone or life has been just beating them down and eating makes them feel good. People are fat because they eat too much, but there are many understandable reasons it happens. Life isn't easy, i gained weight when my mom died. I just didn't care anymore, it took a while to find my way back to normal. Losing weight is easy once your mind is right, but getting to that point can be surprisingly tough.
You are wrong.
So 50 years ago everybody was happy?
50 years ago most Americans cooked their own food from scratch...
Now they don't. Instead they eat shit...They have no idea what is put in their food.
empathy isnt allowed here, bucko. Go clean your room before having a point of view.
Yeah man. It's like quitting smoking. It's not something you just do once and you're good. It's a continuous process. It's a mindset. But you have to want it.
I used to smoke and I was overweight once. Both problems I fixed and continue to fix everyday through hard work and meditation.
I appreciate this point of view - good for u. I have a few people in my life struggling with their weight and they’re all amazing human beings and I’m rooting for them so hard
“They don’t know why it works” = “I couldn’t be bothered to spend 5 minutes reading”
As someone who’s struggled with my weight being too low I can’t fathom obesity, I mean how easy is your life if being obese is your biggest problem. Maybe it’s time you start taking responsibility for stuffing yourself full of “food”.
I think the difference between the attitude to "alcoholism as a disease" and "obesity as a disease" is that with the former nobody's pretending that the solution isn't some variation of "find a way to stop drinking". With the latter, the activists don't want to have constructive and non-judgemental conversations about how you can develop the discipline to stop overeating and maintain an exercise regimen, they want to pretend that the eating and lack of exercise are completely separate from being unhealthily fat.
If the fat acceptance brigade were saying things like "being mean to fat people is both cruel and doesn't help them lose weight, treat it like an addiction they can be supported through" I'd be behind them 100%. However, since they're acting as if there's no connection, their position is as ridiculous as it would be for Alcoholics Anonymous to say "failing livers and violently/humiliatingly losing control of our behaviour is just who we are, stop pretending it's got any connection to all the alcohol we keep drinking"
Ah, good point.
It is just denial dressed up fancily.
@mzytryck
That is what the fat acceptance movement wants. It’s people like Bill Maher who lie about the movement for personal profit. Alcoholism is a choice while if you have a glandular problem, you don’t have a choice in being overweight. Genetics also play a role in determining what your body size is.
Stopped drinking beer and soda in November, since then I've lost 33lbs and have been in the best physical shape of my life, the simple disruption of alcohol abuse made me make poor food choices and crave fast food. I have become more discipline in what I eat and how I eat and exercise daily.
People need discipline
@@grandfury5609
I’ve always told people that if they want to lose weight then they have to drink fewer calories since food gets digested.
They name it a “disease “ and push the narrative so these big power companies , can continue to sell us foods that are so harmful but make tons of profit on it and guess what when you need help with this “disease “ they sell you drugs that help with this “disease “ oh that didn’t work and now you got cancer ? Guess what we can make money from your health insurance and bill you on your health care .
That cordan impression is officially the funniest thing Joe rogan has ever done.
It surprised me!!!
Fat shaymeeng?
Seconded only by the Queen of England impersonation
I'm relatively fit, but I won't lie, I watched this while eating Burger King, and I 100% agree with you guys, it's all about diet.
The problem is, there's no money to be made in what it takes to be healthy. It's way more profitable to convince people that they need to by a drug, a bunch of supplements and a gym membership to be healthy.
All you need is a pull-up bar to cover exercises you can't use bodyweight for and to cut out processed crap and you'll be fine, but there's no money in that.
The conflation of disease and a state of affairs that is really hard to fix always puzzled me. I am an alcoholic I needed medical care to quit. It was hard to do, but the idea that I have a disease is just silly.
I'm NOT calling alcoholism or being overweight a mental illness. But, in most cases there is something going on emotionally/mentally/in the brain that is a strong contributor to the condition. But rarely a "disease" or "illness".
To some extent it's really more of a question of "how do we use language here" than it is "who's right and who's wrong." You can be right that you didn't have a "disease" but if that's not the right word for a situation like yours, that required medical care to help address, what is? I don't think we have another word that's as simple as "disease" that's sufficiently appropriate. Along with the word comes connotations and an implication of what the correct approach is to address it. And just the feeling that by having given it a name, that one has some general idea of what to do about it as opposed to having no idea how to actually approach such a thorny problem.
I am a type 2 diabetic and I take Ozempic. It controls my blood sugar. In contrast to what is conventional thought, I was not morbidly obese when diagnosed. In fact, the diagnosis was a surprise to me, my doctor, and my wife. I started Ozempic a few years later, when it became difficult to control my blood sugar without living on a keto style diet, which I hated. I did lose about 15 lbs when I started it. Mainly because of the side effects. I was always nauseas and had terrible heartburn. BUT, I am very active. I lift weights 4 days/week and do daily cardio. I am now, over 2 years on the drug, the same weight I was when I started taking it, because I control my diet. I have added muscle and lost body fat. Not because of Ozempic, because I eat a lot of protein and workout hard. Yes, Ozempic does affect appetite, but honestly, if you ate taking it just to lose weight, the gastrointestinal side effects aren’t worth it. Just adjust your diet to increase protein, eat less overall, lift weights and get in some cardio. How weak are you really if you cannot do that?
The reason Ozempic works as a weight loss pill is it slows gastric emptying. Making you feel fuller longer.
@@lalu0414 didn't bill maher just tell us that no one how why it works?
@jobunaga4178 they do know that it has an appetite suppressant effect and that it slows gastric emptying but glp-1s are hormones and they aren't sure of everything it's doing or why or even where all the receptor locations are.
I'm also a type 2 diabetic who is not obese, but it came as no surprise since I'm Native American and genetically predisposed. Everyone in my family has it whether we're skinny or fat. I was on insulin with an a1c of 12.5 last year. I'm taking Mounjaro and no more insulin, a1c is now 5.6.
@@soofriends Gald to hear that the Mounjaro is working for you! I have found that I am far from alone with T2D and no history of morbid obesity. It drives me nuts when people imply that the CAUSE of T2D is obesity. Obesity is certainly a risk factor, but having T2D does not imply that you have ever been morbidly obese. Genetics definitely play a role.
I'm 70 pounds overweight and to call it a disease is the worst thing you could do. Not only does it take away responsibility of the person who made those horrible dietary decisions. It removes any avenue for a solution. For if it's your fault (which it is) that also means it's within your power to fix it. Although, I'n sure it's called a disease for medical billing/insurance purposes.
Love when they agree about topics and this topic is so right on. Good on them.
Joe has a friend in every field and every topic
Was 260 when I graduated high school. Lost 80 pounds working at a warehouse job, but began to gain it back when I went back to school. I would ride my bike or would walk twice a week and instead of going to McDonalds and the gas station for food I would make sure I had eggs, chicken and rice in the fridge to fight the urge. You're the one responsible for what you put into your body.
I cut out drinking, cut out sodas, cut out a lot of breads. Lost around 100 pounds in a year. Hardly work out, just made myself active more.
There is something wrong with the quality of our food here. Millions of anecdotes about people going to other countries and pigging out while losing weight only to come back to America, eating far less, and gaining all the weight back.
Also, city and neighborhood planning in America has lost the ideals of creating a beautiful walking environment. It's just a bunch of shopping plazas with ugly, mismatched buildings in between. Every new building project is a bigger eyesore than the last. NYC used to be gorgeous. Grand Concourse in the Bronx was so gorgeous before the 70s
It’s literally calories in calories out. A calorie is a calorie throughout the world. “Pigging out” overseas just means you are eating more filling, calorically dense food.
Wait what? "Millions of anecdotes about people going to other countries and pigging out while losing weight only to come back to America, eating far less, and gaining all the weight back." is this a thing? damn, some of those people must be eating some REALLY shitty food then, ive been living in Europe for the past 10 years, in Spain 4 now and the quality of food here is not only great but is affordable and IT IS everywhere, like the norm, like you have to go OUT of your way to eat shit food here.
@@areallytallguy that's not the whole story though. Many additives, hormones, pesticides, etc, are allowed in the US that are banned in other countries. The lack of nutrients in our foods is a problem. Our factory farm eggs have close to no nutritional value when compared to pasture raised eggs. Once I started taking bio available vitamins, my body dropped almost 10 pounds in less than a week and has maintained that weight with no other dietary or physical changes from me.
@@fungus_am0nguz644 from what I've read, people have gorged on breads, cakes, etc on their trips, lost weight, came back to a far more moderate diet in america and gained it all back.
@@areallytallguyso cake and apples are the same? If it’s all calories in and calories out then it doesn’t matter WHAT you eat right?
Obviously not
I'm on Ozempic for diabetes. Been dealing with diabetes for about 22 years. Haven't been able to control it. Until 2 years ago. I went keto + veggies. Began to lose weight and lower A1c.
But I lost the dam fight to food cravings. Those carbs are freaking hard to shake. So I ended up doing Omad. And it did work. But getting to the end of the day was rough.
I ended up on Ozempic as a tool to help my cravings so I can make it to dinner.
I eat once a day now, keto. Lost weight, A1c went from 14 to 6.7. The Ozempic did help. At some point, I'll see if I can wean off of it.
Basically, Ozempic is a tool, not a full solution. You need to commit and have some balls to follow through with a regime of a good diet.
same here. Ozempic/Mounjaro saved my life. Lost almost 50 lbs.
Keto is a shit diet and goes into what you were just listening to about losing the wrong type of weight. Losing muscle mass is not good and that is exactly what Keto does. Only eating once a day is bad for your metabolism as well and that's why your susceptible to binge eating.
@@deluxsound123 Couldn't be more wrong. How does eating primarily protein and fat magically cause you to lose muscle mass? I benched 275 pounds on Keto.
you have a booze problem or used to, then you have a raw suger problem. a man that cant fight sugar cravings is a patheitc douche
Just have big nutritious breakfast and skip dinner. Dinner is a social construct that doesn’t benefits us, it benefits the restaurant industry.
I'm 320 lbs and I can tell you exactly how I got here. The past 3 years have been a blur of stress eating, insomnia, exhaustion, no opportunities to exercise and depression from traumatic life events. There isn't a single general practitioner that's prepared or qualified to "treat" my obesity because it's a function of depression.
I have now stopped eating three hours before bed...a small step...and it helps because it forces you to think about how often you eat...and why.
I love it when Kyle Dunnigan is on JRE. Dudes hilarious
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I got the reference😂
I noticed that during times of my life when money was tight and I wasn't able to eat as much food, I lost weight effortlessly.
nailed it. dealing with that rn losing weight easy and its not because I'm starving but because I have just what I need not all the extra shit. feel amazing health wise. the broke shit annoying tho xD
Tends to be the opposite for a lot of people these days. Poor people can afford large amounts of very low quality food while decent, fresh, quality ingredients and meals are much more expensive. Obesity largely effects low income people in America today.
@@KAT-dg6el - that's true, and they're poorly educated on nutrition.. but if you don't know what you're doing and don't have money it's easier for those people to buy large amounts of very unhealthy food than it is too buy smaller amount of expensive healthy foods. It's still a personal choice, but it can't be denied that that's a problem
The even more ridiculous thing is the ease of losing weight increases with how overweight someone is. A girl who's thin, bikini body weight is 120, but weighs 300 could slim down to 200 without too much effort, but approaching 150, and getting under 150 is very hard. The net calorie consumption either from diet or exercise reduces from 2000 calories to get to around 200 to 1500 calories for 150, and less than 1500 for that thin weight; especially, if she's over the age of thirty. It's particularly hard, because most Americans struggle to eat a diet less than 2000 calories that's nutritious and filling, and doing 500 extra calories of cardio a day is also a lot of effort; particularly, for someone on a diet.
For this reason, I can sympathize with a woman who's fifty pounds overweight saying it's a biological or genetic struggle for her. I can't sympathize with a 400 pound woman trying to justify why she can't even reduce her calories a day to 3000. I knew a girl who weighed about 300 pounds, and managed to get a doctorate in some branch of nutritional science; I just hope no one takes advice from her.
Several years ago my thyroid doctor had the balls to tell me that I’d lose weight “if I kept my head out of the feed bag”! I told him he was evil, but he said he was just being honest.
Pissed me off so bad that for months I kept a food journal before putting anything into my mouth to keep my carbs, calories & fat grams under the prescribed amount.
It was truly time consuming & such a struggle that I hated every second of that experience. When I saw him again I’d lost at least 30 pounds & he was super nice to me from then on.
It sucked that he was right tho 🤔 Since then I’ve learned that eating closer to a keto lifestyle works better for me & it’s MUCH easier. Weight peeled off, plus the cravings for sugar & carbs went away once I stopped eating sugar & high carb foods.
Anyone that tells a doctor they’re evil cuz you have a brittle spirit tells me that you are/were entirely in the wrong. Grow up
How can you think someone is evil for telling you basic facts?
He was always nice- you’re just a baby
Sounds like a good doctor
@@chadgrovHe was definitely in the wrong but he also recognized that and fixed the situation, your response is stupid. Some doctors are evil, like the entire opioid epidemic started by all the doctor's handing out pills like candy because they got kickbacks. Most doctors are good though.
I laughed so hard when he said, thoughtfully, “this would bother me….” 🤣🤣🤣
Meanwhile, why is fat only 'beautiful' on women? Feminists aren't running around telling us 5'-7" men weighing 300 lbs are beautiful, are 10s. Is it because only women will believe this nonsense, and the only people willing to fk fat women are other fat women?
It should...