The Failure Of Windjammer Surf Racers: The End Of TOGO International | Expedition Knott's Berry Farm

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  • From super coaster to super failure, this is the fraught history of Knott’s shortest-lived, least-coveted steel loopers. A ride which caused the end of TOGO International. The Failure Of Windjammer Surf Racers: The End Of TOGO International | Expedition Knott's Berry Farm
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    Video Credits (in alphabetical order)
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    • Point Break: Ride The ...
    Bryan Ochoa
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    Coaster Jeff
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    Coaster Studios
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    Commercial Break Room
    • Knott's Berry Farm Com...
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    dangelovich
    • Ultra Twister at Nagas...
    davidjellis
    • Crazy Mouse (off-ride)...
    Eccentric Gamer
    • Knott's Berry Farm 201...
    Javier Martinez
    • Xcelerator rollback
    joezeppi
    • Riptide ride at Knott'...
    Looping Lee Theme Parks, Roller coasters and more
    • Dangai Looper Roller C...
    miriammemories
    • Knott's Berry Farm,1995
    Mr63500
    • KNOTTS BERRY FARM THEM...
    NickSpace
    • California Poppy Super...
    MiceChat
    • Knott's Berry Farm - B...
    psyclonesteve
    • King Cobra,Stand Up Ro...
    REMEMBER HORIZONS
    • Knott's Berry Farm Sky...
    Ryan120420
    • Hammer Head Knotts Ber...
    Sean Flaharty
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    ThemeParkAdventure
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    • Knott's Pacific Pavill...
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    Theme Park Review
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    • Knott's Berry Farm Cam...
    Todd Markel
    • Early Days of Surfing ...
    What a life!
    • Las Vegas building NY-...
    ZaneyMay Just Keep Planting
    • California Poppy - Fro...
    This episode was written and produced by Greg Tulloss

ความคิดเห็น • 556

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 4 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    TOGO: We understand the concerns of our clients
    Knott's: *Are you sure about that*

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Hahaha yesssss

    • @badgerstatecoasters7725
      @badgerstatecoasters7725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Why do you show up in every comment section that I watch?

    • @Toonamp
      @Toonamp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because your limiting yourself to watching one kind of video and not broadening your horizons to different subjects?

    • @badgerstatecoasters7725
      @badgerstatecoasters7725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Toonamp I watch other stuff beside roller coaster content and I see him everywhere

    • @Coolsomeone234
      @Coolsomeone234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@badgerstatecoasters7725 same

  • @Blast2224
    @Blast2224 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Knotts: We want a roller coaster.
    TOGO: Okay.
    Knotts: Make it functional.
    TOGO: ...what?

    • @BruinPhD2009
      @BruinPhD2009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Blast22 hey, one thing at a time, here!

    • @saberline152
      @saberline152 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nani!?

  • @MatecaCorp
    @MatecaCorp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Windjammer was indeed in many ways emblematic of the worst era of Knott's Berry Farm. Lackluster theming, poor quality, bad maintenance, etc.

    • @CoderatheGreat
      @CoderatheGreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be fair we did get GhostRider the year after Windjammer came out so I guess we ought to take the good with the bad.

  • @oneandonlysound3453
    @oneandonlysound3453 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I know that a big issue of American Togo coasters was steel manufacturing, the fact "Viper" at SFGADV was a random prototype they bought off the lot and "added rings" onto, etc. The thing I'll never got is how they didn't see a problem before this. Nor that the design was plain bad in areas like wth? They have actually made some really cool things-I'd LOVE to see an improved, non-maintenance nightmare Ultra Twister, and they made a pretty good hyper coaster. And a looping coaster at a smaller park not unlike Viper that isn't smooth but is longer and not legit painful like Viper was (if you didn't slouch on purpose), as some examples. The stand-ups would be fine if not stand ups too really, but that's me stand-ups=convert them to something else (SFOG I'm staring at you rn and GADV for sit-down too!)

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Never buy a prototype from a test site. King's Island or King's Dominion (I can't remember which) made that mistake with the Hypersonic XLC.

  • @frosticular
    @frosticular 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i've seen a lot about windjammer and knott's in general since it's the closest park to me, but i've never heard someone mention that atlantis coaster before. i'm always learning something new when i see your videos! they're so well researched.

  • @AgentVolkat
    @AgentVolkat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember the Windjammer. I rode it once with my family in 1997. I do remember it being a pretty rough ride, but aside from that I enjoyed it. Still got the souvenir photo lol

  • @dannyortiz0406
    @dannyortiz0406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Keep those videos coming :) always enjoy watching them.

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

    • @dannyortiz0406
      @dannyortiz0406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ExpeditionThemePark you're welcome.

    • @dannyortiz0406
      @dannyortiz0406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ExpeditionThemePark what's your thought of HHN being cancelled?

  • @zacharystewart5344
    @zacharystewart5344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these vids! They are different from the typical vlogs and reviews most others do!

  • @rabidsmiles
    @rabidsmiles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh man it was soooo bad and the fact that it replaced the Wacky Soap Racers is a shame. That was one of the best rides ever.

  • @Tephlosion
    @Tephlosion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Got rid of an terrible coaster and replaced it with one of my most favorite coasters ever. I love the speed and the ability to look out over the city.
    I know one day you are gonna touch on Perilous Plunge and that will be a fun ride with a tumultuous story.

  • @ThemeParkDaze
    @ThemeParkDaze 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I went on this ride the summer it opened. I was so excited for it and was extremely let down. It was the roughest coaster I had ever been on at that point.

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yupppp

    • @ieatkrayons6867
      @ieatkrayons6867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes it was. It replaced flashback at magic mountain. The 90s saw some garbage coasters in socal.

    • @ThemeParkDaze
      @ThemeParkDaze 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ieatkrayons6867 I never got to go on flashback. perhaps I should consider myself lucky.

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What side did you get?

    • @ThemeParkDaze
      @ThemeParkDaze 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pizzaplanettruck9761 red side

  • @gordonwchas
    @gordonwchas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Love Charles Phoenix's pineapple jacket at 20:32.

  • @jeremydegeytere8385
    @jeremydegeytere8385 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was the first roller coaster I rode with an inversion, can confirm it was awful.

  • @cathedraldarkness
    @cathedraldarkness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve seen a few different videos on Wind Jammer. It baffles me that such a dinky coaster could cause such large problems.

  • @zoditeevee3834
    @zoditeevee3834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The biggest mistake in windjammer is that they got rid of the soap box derby racers to put it in.. lame

  • @ayyo-jason
    @ayyo-jason 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great informative video! I love learning about theme park history. BTW Terry E Van Gorder was also the general manager of Magic Mountain before it was sold to Six Flags in 1979.

  • @michaezell4607
    @michaezell4607 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SFA also had a roto shake ride (iron eagle) which only lasted at the park from 1994 till 2004.

  • @Spyderjav
    @Spyderjav 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hate that ride for the simple reason that it replaced the beloved and infinitely better Wacky Soap Box Racers.

  • @Nick_J_
    @Nick_J_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Shoulda gone with Intamin, even back then

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Always

    • @theunknown0887
      @theunknown0887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They may be unreliable but the return on investment, guest satisfaction, and appeal is worth it

    • @twistedcheese1
      @twistedcheese1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Even arrow would have been a better choice

    • @alaeriia01
      @alaeriia01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Okay, hear me out:
      Schwarzkopf/Zierer mine train (think Lisebergbanan) themed to crashing waves.

    • @spider0804
      @spider0804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@twistedcheese1 Arrow coasters are fine and have a decent history of being reliable.
      The word "Even" kind of implies this is not the case.
      Their rides may not be spectacular today for record breakers or whatever but they were top of the line when they were made.
      They bankrupted themselves creating the coaster "X" and investing into a coaster that did not pan out in vegas.

  • @ianrotten4453
    @ianrotten4453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man I miss the parachute ride and the Wacky Soapbox Racer. Knott's was the best back in the late 70' & early 80's!

  • @Rollback_Productions_
    @Rollback_Productions_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That clip from Ultra Twister media day was hilarious! I love that kid whos like totally duude!

  • @thomask9673
    @thomask9673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Technically, "Windjammer" is the perfect name for the ride. Wind causes the ride to jam.

  • @pizzaplanettruck9761
    @pizzaplanettruck9761 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder why the yellow side was such a rarity? It's possible they used some of its parts to fix the red side like Batman and Robin: the Chiller.

  • @pikapal91746
    @pikapal91746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I absolutely hated this ride! I would ride almost any other ride in the park I could ride in as a teenager, but not this one. My older relatives would take me and some of my younger cousins who always wanted to ride this ride so they would make me ride it with them. Multiple times! I hated the way when you rode it the coaster would hurt your neck and make it all wobbly. I imagine my own personal hell is continuously being forced to ride this ride. (I hope one of my relatives reads this. )

  • @djsugarc1075
    @djsugarc1075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    THE BEST AMUSEMENT HISTORY CHANNEL!!!!!

  • @franciscodanconia4324
    @franciscodanconia4324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A cleverly designed roller coaster that only works properly in a vacuum.

  • @flleathercop
    @flleathercop 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great coverage of historical events.

  • @JetstreamAviation747
    @JetstreamAviation747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wish I could have been on this ride even if it wasn’t that great, I love Knotts.

  • @d.krolmann5456
    @d.krolmann5456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cop Car Chase (Lethal Weapon Pursuit) would be another interesting topic

  • @alienproductions9679
    @alienproductions9679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you so much for the quality videos always

  • @mrquavers
    @mrquavers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damm
    Theme park company’s seem to destroy manufacturers
    I bet japan wasn’t happy

  • @RyanDepauloDegenerateGambler
    @RyanDepauloDegenerateGambler 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked viper in New Jersey as a kid!

  • @GeorgeT370
    @GeorgeT370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative...THANKS!

  • @mehgend3914
    @mehgend3914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a terrible way for Togo to die

  • @BetweenTheLyons
    @BetweenTheLyons 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man, Race To Saturn sounds really cool.

  • @JasonRasmussen
    @JasonRasmussen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    18:36 Aiming a little high there.

  • @cam3033
    @cam3033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats sad is that they weren't any good rides in the US of A

  • @michailokeefeMooMoo
    @michailokeefeMooMoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video very informative

  • @Jhamstra42
    @Jhamstra42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    20:35 Can we just take a moment to discuss this absolute tragedy that is this man's jacket?

    • @BruinPhD2009
      @BruinPhD2009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jeff Hamstra I think atrocity is a better word. Tragedies tend to be accidents, but that jacket was a choice. 😳🤣

    • @selanryn5849
      @selanryn5849 ปีที่แล้ว

      The berries should be scratch-n-sniff.

  • @rogerricalde7860
    @rogerricalde7860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To me wind jammer was the worst ride I have ever rode on. My shoulders hurt and my head got knocked side to side it all most felt like having whiplash in a confined space. That was my first and last time I ever rode it. Knott's should of won the court case. That company should of never made coaster again hands down.

  • @jimthar17
    @jimthar17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's actually a shame. It looks like it could have been a fun coaster.

  • @BLasherman
    @BLasherman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mom, Dad, Grandma and Grandpa are fine, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I ride a coaster with Johnny and Mary again, Jack! They know what they did!

  • @seansanders294
    @seansanders294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m going there today

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have fun!

    • @seansanders294
      @seansanders294 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Expedition Theme Park thx. I am now going in an hour. My mom has a stomach ache

  • @WhatisReal11
    @WhatisReal11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember it would rattle your head, i forget it existed untill i saw this video... totally forgot

  • @aleblasco39
    @aleblasco39 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Americans after experiencing the US Togo Coasters:"I'll never forgive the Japanese!"

  • @UponDemise666
    @UponDemise666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know what the intro music to this video is? Love them synth tones

  • @mauricelong4678
    @mauricelong4678 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surfs racers coasters still be remembered

  • @nickb2912
    @nickb2912 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was actually my first looping coaster. I think if the ride was smooth, no mechanical problems, no stalling, and always running the racing feature I think this ride would have lived up to hype. Do I think it would still be running if it lived up to hype? probably not but I think it would have ran a lot longer then it did.
    What I noticed when I was riding it was the restraints before the first drop would become loose to the point that I could lift it up but when I put it down it would stay back in place. It stayed in place I was just able to lift it up. I was 7 at the time I rode it

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Red or Yellow? And don't forget the restraints. Yeah if it hadn't suffered all those problems it could've competed with Wacky Soap Box Racers.

    • @nickb2912
      @nickb2912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pizzaplanettruck9761 Red, the Yellow rarely ever operated. There is something confusing with your comment, how could a roller coaster compete if one ride was replaced with the other?

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nickb2912 I meant people would've loved it.

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nickb2912 If it had been everything you said, it could've been a great successor to Wacky Soap Box Racers. I would've probably liked it better.

    • @nickb2912
      @nickb2912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pizzaplanettruck9761 I see what you are saying now but yes I agree with you. now would Xcelerator still be there? it might but in a different location at the park.

  • @nothingcankilldagrimace
    @nothingcankilldagrimace 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rode Windjammer when it opened. I forgot how it went on account of the head beating it gave me. It really was THAT awful. Xcellerator is definitely a superior replacement.

  • @MrMrMrprofessor
    @MrMrMrprofessor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Expedition: *mentions Togo*
    Me: Ohhh I remember them...which coaster was it..?
    Expedition: *shows the New York New York coaster*
    Me: Oh. Shit. No.

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Here we go againnn

    • @ErrorWolf
      @ErrorWolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I rode it...
      Yaa, being a Cedar Point guy, ouch

    • @richardbagley3139
      @richardbagley3139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why do I have to suffer with THAT one being my first thrill coaster... well that’s what you get for growing to a tweener in Vegas

  • @RolyWestYT
    @RolyWestYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I don’t get why the advert for it was all “scary” when the ride is not scary themed at all?

    • @arposkraft3616
      @arposkraft3616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      in the ninetys all amusement park advertisements either had a dark or TOTAL RAD type of advertisement...

    • @bluedragon9925
      @bluedragon9925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@arposkraft3616 Yep. Just look at Splash Mountain's original ad (I know that was technically from the 80's but it was 1989 so I'm counting it since aspects of 90's pop culture were carried over from the late 80's anyways). Even though the ride itself is the usual light-hearted Disney fare, its ad had a very foreboding tone, with *heavy* emphasis placed on the big drop towards the end ("The only way out... Is a long... Way... Down...").
      I think the main reason they marketed it that way was not only to distract from the elephant in the room that was the problematic origins of its theme (being based on Song of the South and all), but make it more appealing to the "too cool for Disney" teenage thrill seeker crowd.

    • @TheOnlyBongo
      @TheOnlyBongo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@bluedragon9925 Knowing Michael Eisner renamed it to promote the movie Splash and that he took theme park advice from his hip, cool, radical teenage son the latter feels more true than the former.

    • @MSTiekims9952
      @MSTiekims9952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well here I am looking at one of my fav channels for theme park fun, and I see that another favorite added a comment! Hi Roly! Love your channel! All my coworkers are tired of hearing me say Roly words with my horrible Brittish accent.

    • @mathiley0878
      @mathiley0878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imagine a park advertising a wacky worm like a scary ride

  • @ZeroCreditsRemaining
    @ZeroCreditsRemaining 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Did I see a reference to “windseeker is closed due to high winds”?

  • @dylanalgate8130
    @dylanalgate8130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I’ve always loved the content on this channel. It’s always well done, always informational, doing it in a fun way. Being a theme park enthusiast, and not being able to go to any this year is hard, so I go to this channel and others but by far you are my favorite

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you so much! Here's to hopefully a better 2021 for us all

    • @dylanalgate8130
      @dylanalgate8130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Expedition Theme Park keep it up

  • @HarryPorpise
    @HarryPorpise 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I honestly want to ride a US Togo just to see how bad it is

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      New York New York!

    • @DCLocal84
      @DCLocal84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I've rode a Togo stand up in the late 90s... my balls still hurt.

    • @HarryPorpise
      @HarryPorpise 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      DCLocal84 maybe I won’t then...

    • @ThemeParkDaze
      @ThemeParkDaze 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      no you don't. I've been on 2/3 (this one and the NY NY one) and they're easily my least favorite coasters of all time.

    • @RSGReallySimpleGaming
      @RSGReallySimpleGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My dad lives in Vegas and im there right now, its awfully rough, but The Big Apple would be great if it wasnt!

  • @Emplordxiii
    @Emplordxiii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I take it Knott’s won’t be making a pin honoring this attraction for their 100th Anniversary pin set.

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      They might they don't shy away from the bad

    • @Emplordxiii
      @Emplordxiii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Expedition Theme Park it will be interesting, that’s for sure.

    • @briancalifornia
      @briancalifornia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a Windjammer hat and shirt lol

    • @robertoflores599
      @robertoflores599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I went To their 100 year anniversary and they didn’t honor it lol they had sky jump, and soap box, time machine etc..

  • @605coasters
    @605coasters 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    As I once saw someone say: The name is perfect. It jams up in the wind lol
    Great video btw

  • @Lil_Angry_Bitch
    @Lil_Angry_Bitch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    The irony is that not only did Windjammer Fail, Knott's had another ride with "Wind" in the name that failed: Windseeker. Riders got stuck up in the air for 3 hours and they removed the ride. Knott's should not use "Wind" in the name of any of their rides.

    • @nubiansnowchic
      @nubiansnowchic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Oh wow! So that’s the windseeker that got stuck! Makes me wonder why ours (kings island and cedar point) are still operating!

    • @puppetuppers4806
      @puppetuppers4806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      nubiansnowchic the curse is only at knotts.

    • @Lil_Angry_Bitch
      @Lil_Angry_Bitch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Luciferus After the ride got stuck, Cal-Osha required Knott's to come up with an emergency evacuation system for the ride. Knott's built an emergency evac platform for the ride but it didn't get approved so they had to demolish the ride.

    • @JimiStone
      @JimiStone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Knott's windseeker was moved to Cedar Fair park World's of Fun in Kansas City, MO!

    • @Courier_333
      @Courier_333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I got stuck on that ride smh one of the scariest things I've been on

  • @kristalic
    @kristalic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    West coast racers the prequel

  • @landonsmith295
    @landonsmith295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    *kids talking about Ultra Twister at Six Flags Great Adventure*
    "Number 1 ride in the park, Number 1, they will never get a better one."
    *El Toro has left the chat*

    • @zacknaughton2170
      @zacknaughton2170 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nitro left too

    • @gregorymoore2877
      @gregorymoore2877 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zacknaughton2170 To fair there was no Nitro or El Toro when Ultra Twister was there.

  • @vabvaab
    @vabvaab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I went on this, that loop felt like being launched into a half pipe in a shopping cart. Cute looking coaster though.

  • @singlerideradventures6621
    @singlerideradventures6621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I never rode this, because it was always closed when I was there, but my friends always called it Neckjammer. It's too bad about the Boardwalk, as the rest of the park is beautifully themed, the back remains a mash up of 20's, 50's, and 90's.

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah !

    • @thecoastergnome8603
      @thecoastergnome8603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeh I think it should get a partial re-theme, keep the boardwalk theme but make it look nicer and replace coast rider with an s&s El Loco

    • @BruinPhD2009
      @BruinPhD2009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. I like Knotts, but parts of it look like the planners just got bored halfway through a school project.

    • @gregorymoore2877
      @gregorymoore2877 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They should have stuck with the 20's airfield theme with the Corkscrew, Sky Jump Parachutes and Wacky Soapbox Pacers. Wouldn't been more interesting than what's there today.

  • @fifthrider
    @fifthrider 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I love Knotts and am lucky I got to go on the Soapbox Racers, which I believe Bob Gurr developed. That corner of Knotts has always had an identity crisis ever since Soapbox Racers was removed; it never really knew what it wanted to be and thematically it never did it well. I was present on a day some 20+ years ago when a woman passed away on Montezuma's Revenge. At first the park was blamed but then we later learned she was a model and ate next to nothing. Her brain aneurysm was caused my malnutrition. Not long after that someone died on 19:42 the unfortunately named Perilous Plunge. Not to put too fine a point on it, but that woman was well over the weight limit and the restraints weren't working for her properly. Instead of being held in her seat at the top of the drop, she was catapulted out thus adding credence to the ride's name. I think about that every time I'm at a theme park and someone wants to argue with the ride operator that their kid should be allowed on despite the height limit, should be allowed on despite the fact they don't fit into the restraint system properly, etc. Please don't argue with the safety rules, people.

    • @rjkral
      @rjkral 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fifthrider very good points and I see it a lot. The safety measures are the LEAST folks can do to keep all these rides running safely and not be shut down, or worse bring on injury and the loss of life

    • @bryanmcclanahan532
      @bryanmcclanahan532 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Splash ride with ejector airtime vibes

    • @andrewbowser2794
      @andrewbowser2794 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have to confess, I stuffed napkins in my shoes when I was a kid to ride on Hammerhead. No joke, we started flipping and i slipped out of the shoulder restraints and held on for dear life. My feet were kicking the heads of the people in front of me. The riders to the left and right of me were seriously concerned. Lesson learned from that day forward! Never went on that ride again because of the traumatic experience. I didn’t say a word. After hanging on for dear life the whole ride, the people in front and all around asked if I was okay.
      Long story short, I have kids now and never will they ride a ride until they meet the minimum height requirements. Period.

  • @Onoitsbroko
    @Onoitsbroko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'm still upset you don't have more subscribers. You're videos are so high quality and I always look forward to them!

  • @michaeldimitroulakos1307
    @michaeldimitroulakos1307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The Manhattan Express coaster in Vegas is a heinous piece of machinery and must be destroyed. I hate that thing.

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So bad

    • @OakViewFilms
      @OakViewFilms 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hopefully if it does ever go away, they replace it with something else. A Chance Morgan megalite or a Gerstlaur Infinity Coaster would make a great replacement.

    • @nu-agegamer3548
      @nu-agegamer3548 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Desperadont has already been shut down, so yay!

    • @richardbagley3139
      @richardbagley3139 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don’t know how much pain I feel when that coaster was my first thrill coaster, I didn’t feel pain tho I’m endurable

  • @andrewschannel4259
    @andrewschannel4259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I want to go on something more thrilling than Looping Roller Coaster 1.
    If 2020 was a roller coaster, this would be it.

  • @korwynias_yt
    @korwynias_yt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    You know with all these problems coasters have with wind, easiest solution is just put up wind breakers. This ride would benefit with sails that blocked the wind in designated spots and also add to the surf theme.

    • @bryanmcclanahan532
      @bryanmcclanahan532 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Korwynias Wolfdrake or maybe add large fans to counter the wind. Might enhance the ride experience while combating... 3 mph winds 😂

  • @kylestrange4494
    @kylestrange4494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wind jammer was my first upside down coaster. Road it when I was 7 years old. Wow such good times

  • @wilksy2949
    @wilksy2949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Yo love the vids

  • @dalerobertson9394
    @dalerobertson9394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rode both red and yellow back in the day. Complete garbage. This is what happens when a park goes cheap. The flat rides where basically carnival rides. Wacky Racers was way better. Towards the end, Soabox Racers only ran 2 of the 4 tracks due to maintenance issues. I remember the day they told us as a former employee about the 5 year plan. The replacement was an utter failure. It was a sad ending to the Knotts family legacy, that I do believe resulted in the sale to Cedar Fair.

  • @5MadMovieMakers
    @5MadMovieMakers 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This plot of land might take the record for most coasters in the same spot

  • @jahzd4028
    @jahzd4028 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If one day Cedar Fair finally decided to expand KBF, please make *Race to Atlantis* a reality. It's exactly what Knott's needs. More mountain theming and more indoor dark ride/coasters inside a mine.

    • @viccas9301
      @viccas9301 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. Remove xcelerator and bring back the wacky soap box racers, or a journey to Atlantis type ride

  • @DZstudios.
    @DZstudios. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Poor soap box..

  • @shitwizard1247
    @shitwizard1247 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    The best person for informing people about theme parks I never knew existed

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Ha thanks

    • @EnergyDot
      @EnergyDot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      How did you not know about Knott's Berry Farm lmao

    • @fluffydevil13
      @fluffydevil13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It’s worth the visit! It’s a 15 minute drive past Disneyland, and you can do everything there in one day.

    • @MagicalBread
      @MagicalBread 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Knott’s is one of the most famous theme parks in the US. If you’re familiar with Cedar Fair parks like Cedar Point or Kong’s Island, than you’ll be surprised by this fact: Knott’s is Cedar Fair’s most profitable park. Knott’s accounts for at least a quarter of CF’s profits.

    • @flibberty100
      @flibberty100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s up with wizard

  • @P-_-S
    @P-_-S 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As we had just recently learned about what a codpiece was in British Literature class, this ride was infamously known as the “Codjammer” among my circle of friends in high school. In addition to the shoulder harnesses being incredibly painful, the seats on the train had a raised part in the groin region that... uh... jammed your cod, as it were. Rode it once, never wanted to ride it again. I was not at all surprised to see it ripped out just a few years later or to find out there were lawsuits filed . Such a shame too, it was a great concept and layout, but terribly designed and constructed. Best thing about it was the creepy carnival haunted house they had there during Knott’s Scary Farm. I am also eternally sad that they removed the Soapbox Racers for the Codjammer, I don’t blame them because it was indeed looking pretty haggard in its twilight years, but my nostalgia for it will always remain strong. The removal of the Soapbox Racers was made extra painful by the fact the replacement ride was so stunningly awful.

  • @johnhaines9893
    @johnhaines9893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A video on Roller Soaker at Hersheypark would be interesting, that ride didn’t last long.

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice idea

    • @gregg5958
      @gregg5958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I loved that ride! But I guess the maintenance problems on them was on par with Togo. I always thought Knott’s should have gotten one instead of Boomerang. It would have been awesome there, but in retrospect would have been yet another disaster I guess!

  • @madtownchris
    @madtownchris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cool topic! A few corrections:
    10:14- Most wild mouse coasters feature individual cars, not trains.
    10:24- Viper was at Great Adventure, not Great America. And the shoulder restraints are totally different between the two rides.
    17:25- This is important. Only one TOGO Ride, Shockwave at KD, had a fatal accident in 1999. While that year was terrible for coaster and thrill ride accidents in the US, the only TOGO ride that had a fatality in 1999 was Shockwave.

  • @ArtisticlyAlexis
    @ArtisticlyAlexis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Crazy! At 2:45 the listing just above the address you highlighted, was about a block down from my house growing up on Central Ave. in the small town of Middletown, Ohio.

  • @ernestoalejandrojuradoagui4824
    @ernestoalejandrojuradoagui4824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can do an expedition about Nara Dreamland, it was a cheap knockoff from Disneyland in California ? The entire park was demolished in 2019

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One day maybe!

    • @marcussheen
      @marcussheen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @bigevilworldwide1 Yes! I think Defunctland did a video on it. It was pretty sad how everything turned out, especially when the park closed.

  • @djsugarc1075
    @djsugarc1075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    at 10:24 u say “great america” not “great adventure”
    not nitpicking just confused me for a sec!!!

  • @juliagoodwin3461
    @juliagoodwin3461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    From what I gather, Togo had awful luck when it came to American roller coaster rides...

    • @bryanmcclanahan532
      @bryanmcclanahan532 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Julia Goodwin they weren’t much better at making sandwiches either....

  • @alexlubbers1589
    @alexlubbers1589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's funny that they advertised Windjammer with a tornado, because I'd imagine that's what it felt like to ride it

  • @MrDan11422
    @MrDan11422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I remember riding King Cobra in King's Island.
    From a Male's perspective, you come off speaking very high pitched.

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha forever

    • @MrDan11422
      @MrDan11422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ExpeditionThemePark I remember my friends explaining thier own pain but back then it was once unthinkable yet the nut feeling was worth the experience of standing up going upside down. Seems kinda foolish now.
      Keep up the good work.

  • @expeditioned2821
    @expeditioned2821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    TOGO: what shall we make
    . Painful stand-up coasters for men?
    . Or just plain rough coasters

  • @RandiRain
    @RandiRain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I've only been to Knott's once, and I rode this thing... When it came to a stop, I can remember saying out loud how horrible it was. One of the only things I remember about my experience there. The other two was the wooden coaster there being fantastic, and the native American show was amazing. I wish someone would do a video on that.

    • @GTMGUNN
      @GTMGUNN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lucky you!

    • @seansanders294
      @seansanders294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m going today

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Red or yellow

    • @RandiRain
      @RandiRain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pizzaplanettruck9761 - Oh geez, it was so long ago... But I think yellow.

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RandiRain I hope it was. That would make you one of the few people who rode the yellow side.

  • @ryandrew8075
    @ryandrew8075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Its amazing they still operate the sky cabin.. i operated that ride nearly 20 years ago and it was barely holding on for life back then .. i even opened the service door to watch the internals crawl up the pole for people

  • @caitlynking2660
    @caitlynking2660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love your videos, and binge them constantly. Keep it up!

  • @JasonRasmussen
    @JasonRasmussen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I rode Wind Jammer. I knew it was bad the moment I went into the first loop. Glad it is gone. Very much miss the Wacky Soap Box Racers, and wish they would bring back a modern version of this. I also rode Xcelerator opening day. Boy did they check your restraints multiple times!

  • @coastaku1954
    @coastaku1954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    8:57 (Assuming this was at Great Adventure) "They will never get a better one"
    El Toro: Hold my beer

  • @vxxmpevil
    @vxxmpevil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ultra twister fans in the 80's: *NUMBER 1! THEY WILL NEVER GET A BETTER ONE!*
    el toro: *hello*

  • @viccas9301
    @viccas9301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bring wacky soap box racers back in 2022 and have it replace coast rider and xcelerator. If not, it can be built in the rumored ghost town expansion.

  • @josephvoss4470
    @josephvoss4470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How ironic. The Wind Jammer was jammed by wind.

    • @RequiemDream
      @RequiemDream 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Phahahahaha I know right! 😂🤣 AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAH! AAAAAAAA! AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAH!!! 🤣AAAHAHHA

    • @RequiemDream
      @RequiemDream 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A AAAAAAAA!
      AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAH 🤣🤣🤣

  • @spoiledbabykitty
    @spoiledbabykitty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I miss the soap box racers, so many good memories. When it was replaced with this I was sad.....I was sad again when excelerator opened. It's just not soap box racers.

    • @gregg5958
      @gregg5958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      spoiledbabykitty I feel the exact same way. Nothing has ever been as good as the Soap Box Racers for me. It was the perfect fix for the Cycle Chase, had great theming, (until they let it go piece by piece), and was just a real fun ride. I would say it was one of the best remakes of a ride at any park ever. To be replaced by the mustard and ketchup coaster was just a slap in the face. Knott’s worst mistake ever.

    • @pizzaplanettruck9761
      @pizzaplanettruck9761 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gregg5958 I never realized that about Windjammer. That the colors were those of mustard and ketchup.

  • @retrogenerationx7332
    @retrogenerationx7332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love these videos...still waiting for Son of Beast!!!

  • @_Capybara_
    @_Capybara_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Expedition Theme Park rant on The London Resort AKA UK’s Disneyland 🤣

    • @ExpeditionThemePark
      @ExpeditionThemePark  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haaaa maybe we shall see what happens

    • @Gabes1321
      @Gabes1321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You mean Harry Potter World?

    • @ellet8529
      @ellet8529 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gabes1321 noooo it's a paramount resort they've been building since like 2012 I think

    • @Gabes1321
      @Gabes1321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eleanor Tracey I thought paramount went out of business

    • @ellet8529
      @ellet8529 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gabes1321 nah they're still going! Idk why they're trying to get in the theme park game tho 🤣

  • @RollerCoasteraddict
    @RollerCoasteraddict 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't care what anyone says Wind Jammer was a beautiful Roller Coaster ... What a shame it wasn't designed by a better company ... If i owned Knott's i would have rebuilt Wind Jammer 👍🏻

  • @spider0804
    @spider0804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Whenever I see a video about a Togo I think "Oh no."

  • @mstrmren
    @mstrmren 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would love a Video about Phantasialand!

  • @Joypyf
    @Joypyf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If only Knott’s still had that birthday promotion 😂🥳

  • @Coolharry64
    @Coolharry64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m happy there isn’t a TOGO coaster in the UK.

    • @TrevorCollin_
      @TrevorCollin_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It was stopped in the wind 😂🤣. So Windjammer was a perfect name!!! The Wind jammed it lol!

    • @johnfoltz8183
      @johnfoltz8183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TrevorCollin_ in America, you jam in the wind.
      In Soviet Russia, wind jams you.

    • @Coolharry64
      @Coolharry64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could have gone with "SunJammer".

  • @candycorn8750
    @candycorn8750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should do a video on silverwood and their famous “aftershock”