Hi JB thanks for the kind mention, I’m loving seeing you in full flow what a great informative series this is. It’s hard to imagine the fact that a great many of the newer generations of carp anglers might never have rolled their own baits ever. I think you might well inspire a good many to have a bash, I think it’s one of the truly satisfying things in carp angling the thrill of success on your own bait concoctions. As we well know mate
16 ingredients in any bait for a dumb fish that eats it own shit isn't for catching fish its for selling product. Can of sweetcorn, chopped worm or tin of spam will outfish any boilie ever made.
hi John how did you build that rolling table.. i’ve just got into bait making and i have a gardner rolling table like yours so just curious on the wood and dimensions used please TIA
hi John how did you build that rolling table.. i’ve just got into bait making and i have a gardner rolling table like yours so just curious on the wood and dimensions used please TIA
Hi John, I have recently stumbled across your videos of which I have found very honest and enlightening. Could you talk about how carp detect bait and how the flavours work with this. In particular PH of baits and if this is a factor with triggering fish feeding behaviours. Can you also explain how or why too strong of a flavour or bait signature can ruin your chances to catch carp i.e. can the leakage itself cause the carp to be tasting and following the leakage in some cases away from the source depending on conditions etc
Awesome video! 👌 John really comes across as a genuinely good guy, who after all these years his passion still burns bright and he enjoys what he does and anyone who makes or rolls or wants to get into it you can feel the enthusiasm he has and it's really contagious and it makes you want to roll out some baits!
I’m a bodybuilder John and people always mention high protein, now for us and our complex digestive system protein just maintains muscle, carbs and fat put the mass on. So a simple system like a Carps surely High protein isn’t properly synthesised? I mean high protein for us is harsh on the system plus the kidneys. Always thought baits would benefit from complex carbs and essential fatty acids? I may be completely wrong comparing them to our system 😂
So interesting John, this is fascinating, easy for us to understand, but clearly there is a lot of science behind it !! Just been to your website to buy base and flavours you have shown... what can go wrong!! Thanks
I really enjoyed watching this. I made my first basemix and homemade boilie inspired by your chapter in Carp Fever, John. It was a cat biscuit mix if I remember correctly. I've been making my own bait now for over 35 years, I love it! My set up is very similar except that I have created a wooden frame that holds the rolling table base set at 45 degrees (permanently) and I drop the sausage in from the top, trap and roll. then lift to let the baits fall into the tray below. Also, I fill the top half of the table with caulk (to make it heavy) to take some of the strain out of the rolling. For boiling I have a mini Burco and an old Gardner Bait Cage which I've had for 30 years - you can't get them any more, which is a shame because mine is rusting away to nothing. My sausage gun is a smaller Cox gun - I can only get 4 large eggs worth in it - can I ask where you got the larger gun from? Also, the wire boiling cage? best wishes, Scott
Hello john I love your video's,keep them comming. I have always made my own bait back in the days. But the last couple of years i buy them. Wil make them myself again,love itt to. Best regards Ruben
love the effort, but cant help think that for £6 for 1kg of boilies (500g of base mix) and 6 eggs (say £1.50), its actually fairly expensive without the additives on top?
Average price for good boilies is around £7 kg, more from your local tackle shop. You’ve still got a bait everyone is using. Johns whole thing is higher quality, less quantity. It works.
TIP #2: TO MAKE THE SAUSAGES... Simply place some dough on the bottom tray, press the top tray onto it (without rolling) lift and you'll have the perfect size sausages for the tray you're using! TRY IT!
Great explaining. Ive been rolling my own for years and making different sizes and barrels and dumbells.and always take 2 different flavours.and since watching you im now on your basemixes and flavours. Thanks and great vids.👍👍
Great content, been making bait since the mid eighties. Did the same as John has with the Gardner tables by mounting them on a base, I use plastic cat litter trays under my tables ☺️ Very quick and easy to make bait this way. Don't think there's really anything on the market to touch John's stuff for quality to be honest.. Confidence every time you cast out I'd say.
Best thing is catching carp on your own baits you’ve made, just like catching on a fly you’ve tied.....also if your regularly fishing someplace and the carp which on to your bait, no one else stands a chance as you made it
John used you boilies and flavourings over the years and loving your clear no nonsense delivery. So many tips in here and newcomers to bait making cannot go wrong if they follow your advice. For years I refused to buy boilies, mainly because my homemades pretty much always outfished them. I suspect some of the preservatives put in commercial bait back then weren’t great, but it couldn’t have been just that. Loved the way you didn’t measure the base mix but added it to the “wet” ingredients and flavourings until it felt right. There are a lot of videos showing how to make boilies, usually from people who are relatively new to it and well, make mistakes. For anyone serious about trying to do it, maybe even for the first time, I can fully endorse Johns methods and advice. You will probably be using a hand pressure bait gun mind, but lovely round baits you can accurately stick or pult out are still possible! Thanks for sharing John and removing the mystery for some. Above all though it was catching on something you knocked up yourself which was so rewarding.
Hey! I am from Siberia, I watched all your films in one day. Very interesting and informative! I will definitely try your products. I'm looking forward to the next filming!
When I got fed-up with rolling bait, I started making flat square slabs and boiling them. Then after drying just chop up to required sizes. Resulting bait is faster-breakdown cubes that you can vary the sizes of. Worked quite well.
Hi john What would you do if you keep getting cracks in your baits after boiled Tha baits have been sivved and separated used almost a kilo and still keeping happening
@@johnbakerbaits9108John, if you used CC moore’s or mainlines base mixes & copied there recipes as close as possible you could replicate, roll and use the boilies. I’m thinking could you use them/ sell to fellow anglers. At a lot cheaper than £15 per KG.
Another brilliant video thanks ; this is such a wonderful series . Great camera and sound from William . Would be interested in hearing people's thoughts and views on eggs , i.e free range , organic , sourced from a local farmer / farm shop ? What do others use and trust ?
When making baits years ago it was the cheapest eggs available due to the amount of bait rolled, now bought from our farmshop for all the right reasons and l only make small batches now as l don't need a lot when fishing for barbel.
Recently received my samples of ala salar, musk spice and toppex I can honestly say the quality is superb. Would highly recommend everyone to try some of John's products.
I was looking forward to the next instalment John, thank you for the practical demonstration and explainations. Stay well and keep them coming, regards
@@johnbakerbaits9108 Although l haven't fished for carp for many years l found this very interesting, when l used to make my own baits, again a long time ago l did the same here in prebaiting with different size baits so the fish didn't become used to the same thing, it may not have made much difference to the fish, l don't know how they think but l feel it was worth a try, do the same thing now when targeting barbel.
It's my belief that if you're using freshly made bait with correct flavour levels you don't need to glug your hook baits. I don't use any glugs so can't give an answer to this question!
@@Hyperraj1 I’d recommend watching John’s other videos on making pop ups/hookbaits for a more thorough answer than I could provide here in a few words. Hookbaits always flavoured at slightly higher levels than the free offerings. And corkball pop-ups are preferred. Strength of flavour depends on the flavour you’re using. Just follow the instructions. Try John Baker Baits website for more info.
@@gazzabowers1184 i only roll for myself. I used to have gardener hand gun.it was ok untill the mix was a bit hard then was a struggle to use and i ended up bruising the inside of my hand. You'd never want to use a hand again.👍
@@grahamlarkin1290 I know exactly what you mean hand and wrist cramps up, but having battery gun at least every sausage is same size that's hard to do by hand !
Absolutely false. The best fish foods in the world contain yeast, often multiple strains of yeast per product. Arguably, the success of these foods/baits is because of the yeasts.
@@richardmaude2584 is it a different yeast to that used in bread? I've been reading some things saying bread is bad for fish because of a few factors, one been yeast I know baits contain yeast and seem to be very effective
@@DAbramUK typically yeast of the Saccharomyces genus are used in fish foods as well as human foods. Labelled as baking, brewers or nutritional yeast. While not necessarily known for any sort of probiotic function, they certainly have a unique flavour profile which I’m sure can attain for its success. I don’t think the yeast in bread can be blamed for any negative impact of fish health if used in a typical angling environment. I don’t think the yeasts are bad for the fish, provided the fish have the appropriate balanced diet of protein, fats and carbs. Which, of course, a quality fish food/bait would have. Hope this helps.
@@scottcorrin5181 I don’t think John rolls bait as per such a request. Just sells the ingredients to make at home. 40kg is a huge amount of bait! Just make a bit at a time. 40kg would feed Shamu at SeaWorld!
Hi JB thanks for the kind mention, I’m loving seeing you in full flow what a great informative series this is.
It’s hard to imagine the fact that a great many of the newer generations of carp anglers might never have rolled their own baits ever.
I think you might well inspire a good many to have a bash, I think it’s one of the truly satisfying things in carp angling the thrill of success on your own bait concoctions.
As we well know mate
Another great video John, guys also use your extra bit of paste for corkball popups
Great tip!
Nice one Mr Baker
Time for some new material John.
I never did see the promised bits you said were being filmed for Carpology
16 ingredients in any bait for a dumb fish that eats it own shit isn't for catching fish its for selling product. Can of sweetcorn, chopped worm or tin of spam will outfish any boilie ever made.
hi John how did you build that rolling table.. i’ve just got into bait making and i have a gardner rolling table like yours so just curious on the wood and dimensions used please
TIA
hi John how did you build that rolling table.. i’ve just got into bait making and i have a gardner rolling table like yours so just curious on the wood and dimensions used please
TIA
Hi John, I have recently stumbled across your videos of which I have found very honest and enlightening.
Could you talk about how carp detect bait and how the flavours work with this. In particular PH of baits and if this is a factor with triggering fish feeding behaviours. Can you also explain how or why too strong of a flavour or bait signature can ruin your chances to catch carp i.e. can the leakage itself cause the carp to be tasting and following the leakage in some cases away from the source depending on conditions etc
Awesome video! 👌 John really comes across as a genuinely good guy, who after all these years his passion still burns bright and he enjoys what he does and anyone who makes or rolls or wants to get into it you can feel the enthusiasm he has and it's really contagious and it makes you want to roll out some baits!
I’m a bodybuilder John and people always mention high protein, now for us and our complex digestive system protein just maintains muscle, carbs and fat put the mass on. So a simple system like a Carps surely High protein isn’t properly synthesised? I mean high protein for us is harsh on the system plus the kidneys. Always thought baits would benefit from complex carbs and essential fatty acids? I may be completely wrong comparing them to our system 😂
Dear Mr. John, if you could tell me how to store homemade boilies for a long time without spoiling ...
When JB speaks,it pays to listen and learn. Another great vid.
So interesting John, this is fascinating, easy for us to understand, but clearly there is a lot of science behind it !! Just been to your website to buy base and flavours you have shown... what can go wrong!! Thanks
Very true John, loving the old school rolling 👏🏻👏🏻👌
Do you have the dimensions and a basic diagram of your bait table setup please
I really enjoyed watching this. I made my first basemix and homemade boilie inspired by your chapter in Carp Fever, John. It was a cat biscuit mix if I remember correctly. I've been making my own bait now for over 35 years, I love it! My set up is very similar except that I have created a wooden frame that holds the rolling table base set at 45 degrees (permanently) and I drop the sausage in from the top, trap and roll. then lift to let the baits fall into the tray below. Also, I fill the top half of the table with caulk (to make it heavy) to take some of the strain out of the rolling. For boiling I have a mini Burco and an old Gardner Bait Cage which I've had for 30 years - you can't get them any more, which is a shame because mine is rusting away to nothing. My sausage gun is a smaller Cox gun - I can only get 4 large eggs worth in it - can I ask where you got the larger gun from? Also, the wire boiling cage? best wishes, Scott
Hello john
I love your video's,keep them comming. I have always made my own bait back in the days. But the last couple of years i buy them. Wil make them myself again,love itt to.
Best regards
Ruben
love the effort, but cant help think that for £6 for 1kg of boilies (500g of base mix) and 6 eggs (say £1.50), its actually fairly expensive without the additives on top?
Average price for good boilies is around £7 kg, more from your local tackle shop. You’ve still got a bait everyone is using. Johns whole thing is higher quality, less quantity. It works.
Fishmix,shellfish flavour,meat spice, plum,salt,salmon oil...
TIP #2: TO MAKE THE SAUSAGES...
Simply place some dough on the bottom tray, press the top tray onto it (without rolling) lift and you'll have the perfect size sausages for the tray you're using!
TRY IT!
Top man, just got to the movement of the rollers. Keep calm and carry on 😅
Great explaining. Ive been rolling my own for years and making different sizes and barrels and dumbells.and always take 2 different flavours.and since watching you im now on your basemixes and flavours. Thanks and great vids.👍👍
Thanks for your recent orders Graham, tight lines!
Great content, been making bait since the mid eighties. Did the same as John has with the Gardner tables by mounting them on a base, I use plastic cat litter trays under my tables ☺️
Very quick and easy to make bait this way. Don't think there's really anything on the market to touch John's stuff for quality to be honest.. Confidence every time you cast out I'd say.
Thanks for watching!
TIP #1: Instead of lifting the tray, just pull the top tray towards you till the boilies roll off into the bottom tray.
Excellent John love your videos very informative
Brilliant again John The Legend at His Best Great Videos as Always, carnt wait now to try the new bait n flavours Thanks Again Brad
Glad you enjoyed it
Best thing is catching carp on your own baits you’ve made, just like catching on a fly you’ve tied.....also if your regularly fishing someplace and the carp which on to your bait, no one else stands a chance as you made it
I’ve just received the gardener table , can’t wait to start producing my own boiles/pop ups
Do you still sell plum ttl?
John used you boilies and flavourings over the years and loving your clear no nonsense delivery. So many tips in here and newcomers to bait making cannot go wrong if they follow your advice. For years I refused to buy boilies, mainly because my homemades pretty much always outfished them. I suspect some of the preservatives put in commercial bait back then weren’t great, but it couldn’t have been just that.
Loved the way you didn’t measure the base mix but added it to the “wet” ingredients and flavourings until it felt right.
There are a lot of videos showing how to make boilies, usually from people who are relatively new to it and well, make mistakes.
For anyone serious about trying to do it, maybe even for the first time, I can fully endorse Johns methods and advice. You will probably be using a hand pressure bait gun mind, but lovely round baits you can accurately stick or pult out are still possible!
Thanks for sharing John and removing the mystery for some.
Above all though it was catching on something you knocked up yourself which was so rewarding.
Hey! I am from Siberia, I watched all your films in one day. Very interesting and informative! I will definitely try your products. I'm looking forward to the next filming!
When I got fed-up with rolling bait, I started making flat square slabs and boiling them. Then after drying just chop up to required sizes. Resulting bait is faster-breakdown cubes that you can vary the sizes of. Worked quite well.
Hi john
What would you do if you keep getting cracks in your baits after boiled
Tha baits have been sivved and separated used almost a kilo and still keeping happening
Just discovering these videos, very interesting and certainly inspiring.
What about steaming baits instead of boiling them?
i can imagine how nice that smells. the ala salar & chicken tikka combo is really nice .nice one john .
This is Will here, I was filming and can tell you it smelled great!
Another brilliant video, so much information, amazing..cheers craig
Really enjoying the videos John. Would like to hear your thoughts on nutrition amino acids etc... and basemix formulation. 👍
Tools price
Hi John .. it’s a pleasure to see the passion in your eyes. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Brilliant, thank you 👍
12mm price
Another excellent video, fairly simple in idea but full of little gems to get the little grey cells working. Keep them coming.
Thanks, will do!
@@johnbakerbaits9108John, if you used CC moore’s or mainlines base mixes & copied there recipes as close as possible you could replicate, roll and use the boilies. I’m thinking could you use them/ sell to fellow anglers. At a lot cheaper than £15 per KG.
nice one John.Great series of bait making.Very enjoyable
Glad you like them!
Regarding fishmeal in the states it mostly is sold as a fertilizer..is that okay to use in a base mix?
Used to make my own base mix John but my friend put me on to your flavours. Beat anything out there John. What a difference with your flavours.
Excellent video!
top vid John. Any chance of a quick look at the rolling table and the flip up bit?
I might do a story on the Instagram page tomorrow showing the rolling table more close up
Hi James, if you look on the Instagram page I uploaded a video looking more closely at the rolling table, cheers
Fantastic info John. Thanks mate.
@@johnbakerbaits9108 sorry to bother you again John but I'm struggling to find a mesh strainer for a 28cm boiling pan. Where can i get one?
Brilliant John👍
love making my own boilies, have done for the last 20 years
Another brilliant video thanks ; this is such a wonderful series . Great camera and sound from William . Would be interested in hearing people's thoughts and views on eggs , i.e free range , organic , sourced from a local farmer / farm shop ? What do others use and trust ?
When making baits years ago it was the cheapest eggs available due to the amount of bait rolled, now bought from our farmshop for all the right reasons and l only make small batches now as l don't need a lot when fishing for barbel.
What size do you make the mesh drying trays please
Brush sunflower oil on roller table won't stick
Recently received my samples of ala salar, musk spice and toppex I can honestly say the quality is superb. Would highly recommend everyone to try some of John's products.
Glad you've got your samples, best of luck using them! Remember a little goes a long way with these strong flavours.
Where can I find these yellow nozzles!!
John have tried tasting the spicy oil? how hot was it??
I was looking forward to the next instalment John, thank you for the practical demonstration and explainations. Stay well and keep them coming, regards
Glad you enjoyed it
good stuff john
Cheers!
Can you make boilies without eggs,as they must seal in nutritional value
I suppose you could but personally wouldn't
Excellent John keep it up👍
Thanks 👍
@@johnbakerbaits9108 Although l haven't fished for carp for many years l found this very interesting, when l used to make my own baits, again a long time ago l did the same here in prebaiting with different size baits so the fish didn't become used to the same thing, it may not have made much difference to the fish, l don't know how they think but l feel it was worth a try, do the same thing now when targeting barbel.
Great video again 👏 is there a universal glug that can be made at home which you could add the relevant flavour to for using as a hook bait glug
It's my belief that if you're using freshly made bait with correct flavour levels you don't need to glug your hook baits. I don't use any glugs so can't give an answer to this question!
Thanks for your reply 👍
Takes me back to the old days, thanks John.
Excellent video again John 💥 i don’t know if you’ve read my message from your last video but I’m asking again,can you mix your flavours with popups??
Yes
@@richardmaude2584 and how would you do that? Is there a certain way if mixing the ingredients,(different sizes in milligrams??)
@@Hyperraj1 I’d recommend watching John’s other videos on making pop ups/hookbaits for a more thorough answer than I could provide here in a few words.
Hookbaits always flavoured at slightly higher levels than the free offerings.
And corkball pop-ups are preferred.
Strength of flavour depends on the flavour you’re using. Just follow the instructions. Try John Baker Baits website for more info.
@@richardmaude2584 thank you very much my friend 🙏
I was just thinking when is JB going to do another video
Hi Dave, Will here. I'm going to try and persuade him to film more regularly - thanks for watching!
Great video as always john very informative
Glad you enjoyed it
I make my own boillies same type set up as you big difference air gun mines by hand grr..
Get ya self a battery gun. Anywhere from £75 upto however much you can afford. Depends how much you roll.
@@grahamlarkin1290 i will have to look into it I only roll enough for myself so not on a huge batch, more the fact I love making them.
@@gazzabowers1184 i only roll for myself. I used to have gardener hand gun.it was ok untill the mix was a bit hard then was a struggle to use and i ended up bruising the inside of my hand. You'd never want to use a hand again.👍
@@grahamlarkin1290 I know exactly what you mean hand and wrist cramps up, but having battery gun at least every sausage is same size that's hard to do by hand !
I've heard yeast is bad for fish, any truth in that?
Absolutely false. The best fish foods in the world contain yeast, often multiple strains of yeast per product. Arguably, the success of these foods/baits is because of the yeasts.
@@richardmaude2584 is it a different yeast to that used in bread? I've been reading some things saying bread is bad for fish because of a few factors, one been yeast
I know baits contain yeast and seem to be very effective
@@DAbramUK typically yeast of the Saccharomyces genus are used in fish foods as well as human foods. Labelled as baking, brewers or nutritional yeast. While not necessarily known for any sort of probiotic function, they certainly have a unique flavour profile which I’m sure can attain for its success.
I don’t think the yeast in bread can be blamed for any negative impact of fish health if used in a typical angling environment.
I don’t think the yeasts are bad for the fish, provided the fish have the appropriate balanced diet of protein, fats and carbs. Which, of course, a quality fish food/bait would have.
Hope this helps.
Where do you buy those burners from? 👍
E Bay mate, large ring burners, check out camping supplies etc
Bullfinch burner. Approx £170
see below!
How much is a kg rolled please
This 6 egg mix came to about 1kg of boilies
@@johnbakerbaits9108 to buy ready rolled looking at boi shellfish 40kg i haven't got time to roll bait
@@scottcorrin5181 I don’t think John rolls bait as per such a request.
Just sells the ingredients to make at home.
40kg is a huge amount of bait! Just make a bit at a time. 40kg would feed Shamu at SeaWorld!