The Submarine too Big to Hide

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    The Typhoon-class submarine could stay submerged for 120 days in uneventful conditions. However, that amount could be further increased if necessary - especially in the potential outbreak of a nuclear war.
    The type was conceived at the peak of the Cold War, at a time when submarines had a clear objective: to convey nuclear missiles.
    By the 1970s, the Soviet Navy resolved to undertake a massive program known as Project 941 Akula. The idea was to create an underwater craft capable of carrying as many nuclear weapons as possible.
    As such, at 175 meters long, the Typhoon became the largest nuclear submarine to ever roam the seas…

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    • @Jungle_Studio
      @Jungle_Studio ปีที่แล้ว

      stop fatshaming me! -typhoon class sub

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  • @donbrashsux
    @donbrashsux ปีที่แล้ว +184

    They should keep the last typhon for a museum piece .. I’d love to walk through that beast

    • @tancar2004
      @tancar2004 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Turning any nuclear powered ship into a museum is dicey at best. There would be a LOT of radioactive materials in the engine room that would be VERY expensive to remove before you'd ever let people near it. As the USN starts retiring the Nimitz class CVN's in the coming decades no one's really counting on any of them being preserved.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@tancar2004 Nope, true there are areas that have a higher background than others but there are sailors working next to those areas during five to six hour shifts multiple times a day with no effects. I doubt a tour group spending five minutes at most in those areas will get any more than what they would get from the flight over to see the museum. As far as the reactor compartments they will be defueled and most of the hot spots will have decayed or been taken care of with the crud bursts and clean ups during the final shutdowns and cooldowns by the time the ship is ready for a museum. I mean they have tours through Pripyat and Chernobyl, I'm sure they could get at least one of these fit for museum work.

    • @donbrashsux
      @donbrashsux ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tancar2004 yes you arecorrect …but imagine viewing such a colossal piece of history

    • @MrKKUT1984
      @MrKKUT1984 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I would love to see one in person.

    • @Commander9013
      @Commander9013 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Russia can't even keep its own aircraft Carrier the only one it has in well operating condition I doubt they would turn the behemoth into a museum but it you're right it would be cool

  • @marklaplante8675
    @marklaplante8675 ปีที่แล้ว +458

    I retired in 1991 and my last deployment was specifically to look for the new Typhoon. I don't know why people say they are noisy. We never saw it once it submerged. Eighty-nine days of wandering around listening to fish farts and whale grunts.

    • @DouglasUrantia
      @DouglasUrantia ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Any contact with a Russian sub is TOP SECRET...you might not have known about it.

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Typically 1 person will say it's noisey and that fact gets parroted around endlessly and before long it becomes a "public fact". Doesn't help that people often compared old tech to modern tech rather than comparing apples to apples and talking about how detectable it was at the time or during its mission (like sailing under the arctic).
      I don't really know enough about the Typhoon to argue facts with most people but subs are poorly understood in general. I've heard some people bring up those sneaky Scandinavian diesel subs that "sunk" an aircraft carrier in a war game, often saying what they could do against the US in the open ocean without bringing up their insanely short range and slow speed

    • @sasasasa-lx6cl
      @sasasasa-lx6cl ปีที่แล้ว +46

      He-he. I retired from Typhoon in 1989 after 103 days on patrol. As we were told (and it was confirmed later by Americans) the main source of noise was from secondary pumps.

    • @vondahe
      @vondahe ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I know absolutely nothing about submarines but logic tells me that you not finding them could also just mean that you were not near any.

    • @shepherdlavellen3301
      @shepherdlavellen3301 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      So here's what I heard from Aaron Amick (former 688 sonarman who tracked down Typhoon during his career): if you see a blank spot with no ambient noise, that's your Typhoon

  • @grast5150
    @grast5150 ปีที่แล้ว +362

    So glossed over the under ice capabilities, the whole reason why Typhoon ICBM had greater range is because they needed it due to needing to travel over the poles to reach their targets. Additionally, the Typhoon CANNOT launch their ICBM submerged like the Ohio. As such, the sub had to be massive enough be able to break through ice in order to launch. Fun Fact: If the ice is too thick, the sail can break through, but the crew will have to use steam hoses to melt the ice to allow launch of ICBM. So in the case of a Russian launch, it takes considerable time and effort to complete the launch. This is its liability as the Typhoon is NOISY and almost always followed by a U.S attack submarine. If a Typhoon tried to launch its ICMBs, it would be destroyed before they even completed their surfacing activity. The Typhoon like most Russia equipment is Paper effective but in real world would be destroyed if actually tried to be used.

    • @benrobertson7855
      @benrobertson7855 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      “Over the poles”? Phew they are good.

    • @nzs316
      @nzs316 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Thanks for the info! This is just ridiculous, bigger is not necessarily better. Image the magnetic signature
      you can almost imagine seeing it bending the lines of flux. Also, the amount of water displaced must be similar to a mini tsunami.
      The engineer who dreamed this up must look like one of those "James Bond" evil scientist characters.

    • @haydenbailey7190
      @haydenbailey7190 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Very true, but correct me if I'm worng (I'm no expert) didnt most typhoon have an SSN escort like a Victor 3 or an akula when they were on deployment? I know a 688 was more than capable of dealing with them but lunching weapons is noisy and takes time?

    • @Crashed131963
      @Crashed131963 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The Trident 2 has a 8000 km range with 6 warheads.
      How much range do you need? It can take Moscow out from the coast if Iceland.

    • @nzs316
      @nzs316 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Crashed131963 Then again with the Arctic opened up due to global warming and give them a ring right up to their doorstep.

  • @drguffey
    @drguffey ปีที่แล้ว +60

    My Dad was at the Naval War College in the early 80's. They tracked one for 3 months. It never ventured out of Soviet waters. Always under Soviet air cover.

    • @Stu5727
      @Stu5727 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      maybe that's the one they wanted him to see :)

  • @lyianx
    @lyianx ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I cant think of a Typhoon sub without thinking of The Hunt for Red October.

  • @Starman_Dx
    @Starman_Dx ปีที่แล้ว +36

    "Well, there are those who believe that we should attack the United States first. Settle everything in one moment. Red October was built for that purpose.”
    -Marko Ramius

    • @brianw612
      @brianw612 ปีที่แล้ว

      One scenario was to loiter beneath the seas and ice post Armageddon to outlast the western subs then launch and destroy anything the west had left. This was one reason they could stay submerged so long.

    • @Backroad_Junkie
      @Backroad_Junkie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, it was a good thing Ramius was pissed at the politburo and the system in general, lol...

    • @grast5150
      @grast5150 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That was the film which inspired me to become a submariner. USS Georgia SSBN 729 1990-2000

    • @mcdit81
      @mcdit81 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have the chance you should also read the book. It had some much more detail and story and will rekindle your love for submarines

  • @NexeL_NKC
    @NexeL_NKC ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This thing really was the real life Alicorn from Ace Combat 7. It was huge, nuclear capable, and insane endurance.

  • @Gaiapozder
    @Gaiapozder ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Served on one of those. Did many secret missions approached US coast. We were never spotted. This project was a big success. It was regarded as a secret. Our west partners have no clue about this type of submarine. Very little information about and most of them are misleading. I can guarantee you this was one of the most quiet sun ever made at the time. Propeller improvement was a big success. It could change the angles depending on the sea density.
    Current black hole (the quietest Russian sub)was developed using this revolutionary system.
    During my service we would approach US subs and whey will not even notice us….That was a special feeling of accomplishment. They would try to chase us but without much success. From Russia with Love. Sergei!

  • @ianryan9513
    @ianryan9513 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Another reason for their size was the requirement for reserve buoyancy to be able to break through some of the thicker ice sections and launch their weapons from around the Pole. It creates a shorter warning time for the target to respond as well as allows the ship to retreat under the ice for relative safety.

    • @nommadd5758
      @nommadd5758 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      (Not to nitpick but submarines are referred to as 'boats'.)

    • @ianryan9513
      @ianryan9513 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nommadd5758 not that you’re nitpicking.

    • @telesniper2
      @telesniper2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      joke's on them, soon there will be no polar ice cap

    • @JamesSmith-ui2hv
      @JamesSmith-ui2hv ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@telesniper2 OK GRETA NOW GO BACK TO BED , IS SCHOOL DAY TOMORROW

    • @telesniper2
      @telesniper2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JamesSmith-ui2hv cope moar

  • @cascadianrangers728
    @cascadianrangers728 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    It's sad, Humanity is unlikely to ever build such a huge, powerful, menacing submarine again. The amount of titanium used in those things is unimaginable.

    • @ats-3693
      @ats-3693 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's sad that humanity will never waste so much titanium and other resources building such massive weapons of war again? Or it's sad that we did it before?

    • @Simonsvids
      @Simonsvids ปีที่แล้ว

      The new Russian Belgorod submarine is longer.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well it will be interesting to see if a submarine drone carrier will ever be made I'd imagine that would be another behemoth! But yeah, that was nuts when I heard about that, just welding Ti is very difficult compared to even stainless steel, and then to make a whole boat out of it. Even though Russia has essentially the world's supply of the stuff hopefully a lot of it can be recycled into future projects; and before anyone says it, no, just because it had a nuclear propulsion system doesn't mean the whole thing is a giant pile of glowing green goo, just the some of actual reactor components and primary coolant piping would need to be removed and put in a sarcophagus.

    • @macattack9041
      @macattack9041 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ats-3693 use the titanium for the supersonic war planes right?🇺🇸

    • @seanclimb
      @seanclimb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its sad that, in your opinion, mankind will ever build such a large-scale killing machine again...?

  • @BobMuir100
    @BobMuir100 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am feeling sad for a submarine and a Soviet one at that!! Your work takes me to some places!! They were imposing and I found them beautiful as in art. Strange because that is the last thing they are.
    Terrific video, loved it and for reasons that surprised me.
    Bob
    England

  • @tarn1135
    @tarn1135 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    One thing I’ll give the soviets is that they built some sexy ass subs back in the day.

  • @krisfrederick5001
    @krisfrederick5001 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was able to board the Russian Scorpion sub docked (and now sinking due to neglect) next to the Queen Mary in Long Beach, CA. She has her own history in WW2. It was claustrophobic and hard to imagine being in with your life on the line.

  • @jheyabines8035
    @jheyabines8035 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not my dumb ass thinking that the Russian should convert the typhoons into a luxury cruise submarine 😅😅😅

  • @mikestone9129
    @mikestone9129 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You didn't mention the Red October. Capt Sean Connery was her captain, and now lives in the USA somewhere🙂

    • @tsarbomba1
      @tsarbomba1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Montana actually...

    • @JediBob609
      @JediBob609 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tsarbomba1 no. That was his XO, who wanted to have a pickup and a recreational vehicle as well as 2 wives in Montana.

    • @Backroad_Junkie
      @Backroad_Junkie ปีที่แล้ว

      Maryland, I believe. Near a sub base, anyway. He sorta taught them soviet tactics, if I remember correctly.
      Didn't Ramius die? Or am I confusing him with the Cardinal....

    • @Backroad_Junkie
      @Backroad_Junkie ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JediBob609 Amazingly he made it, even though it looks like he died in the movie. Three years later he was a fully qualified paleontologist in Montana, living in a recreational vehicle. Didn't have two wives, though. Shame he couldn't hold onto Ellie.
      Subs to dinosaurs. Quite a leap in careers...

    • @navyreviewer
      @navyreviewer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JediBob609 na. He wanted one wife in Montana and another in Arizona. Who knew he wanted to be an over the road trucker?

  • @mirandela777
    @mirandela777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "too Big to Hide" - Polar Ice say "hold my beer ! "

  • @ChileExpatFamily
    @ChileExpatFamily ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My first deployment we did 98 days straight. We came back to port eating crackers and peanut butter. That was a long time with out sun for sure. Jim

  • @mariuskuhrau761
    @mariuskuhrau761 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Yep, the Typhoon subs were massive and they were built to carry a huge arsenal of Intercontinental Missiles. They were not designed to transverse the oceans, but to lay in stealth beneath the Artic ice waiting for the order to launch. Although they might be old now there is apparently a few Typhoons left and on active duty, and the rest was dismantled years ago.

    • @pieterveenders9793
      @pieterveenders9793 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Only a single Typhoon remains, and if I recall correctly it isn't even used for active duty but rather for missile and other tests.

    • @boikanyoonneng9170
      @boikanyoonneng9170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pieterveenders9793 There are plans to refit it with new Sarmat 200 ton ICBMs and send it into service. Its the only nuclear sub that can carry around 20 Sarmats. The Borei class only carries like 2 Sarmats at most if at all it can. So in the near future the only existing Typhoon will go back into service but with Sarmats this time.

    • @grahamo22
      @grahamo22 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@boikanyoonneng9170 "There are plans to....." do all sorts of things in Russia but they never happen as they dont have the cash, the skilled people, resources or technology.

  • @grast5150
    @grast5150 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    the typhoon is basically two submarines put together with a superstructure. The ICMB are housed in free flood areas because the Soviets did not trust their own crews. the typhone has a TON of waisted space that makes a majority of its dry mass.

    • @sasasasa-lx6cl
      @sasasasa-lx6cl ปีที่แล้ว +25

      "did not trust their own crews". And here, ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner of stupid comment contest.
      In late 80s only 6 submarines out of 200+ in Soviet Navy had missiles in flooded area. The main reason for this was simple: first Soviet solid fuel ICBMS were too huge and heavy to fit inside. Additionally it greatly reduced vulnerability of the ship if something went wrong - like in 1991 when test missile on Tk-17 blew up inside the tube during launch they simply dived to quench the fire. No damage to the ship, no damage to other tubes.

    • @riccccccardo
      @riccccccardo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sasasasa-lx6cl 👏🏾

    • @JK-zx3go
      @JK-zx3go ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sasasasa-lx6cl apart from the burned skin and severely damaged launch tube, including the tube door being blown off, I doubt this was the only damage. Diving wouldn't quench a solid rocket motor as the fuel and oxidizer are mixed together and once ignited its burning till its done underwater or not. It would have aided in dissipating the heat though and would have saved the sub.

    • @BlackHearthguard
      @BlackHearthguard ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JK-zx3go After all, solid rocket motors can still burn in space after all.

    • @pieterveenders9793
      @pieterveenders9793 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sasasasa-lx6cl I don't understand why Soviet solid fuel ICBM's (I assume you meant SLBM's?) were too huge to fit in their submarine launch tubes while those of NATO countries were not? After all the majority of the solid fuel SLBM's use ammonium perchlorate with crosslinked polybutadiene composite, a fairly easy fuel to produce and one without much variation in impulse output. Any idea how come the Soviets had problems with that?

  • @doltsbane
    @doltsbane ปีที่แล้ว +103

    You left out the part about them being so noisy that the USN could track them across the entire Atlantic Ocean, meaning that in wartime they'd have needed a miracle to survive 120 hours, let alone 120 days. A Los Angeles class could probably have zeroed in on one just by the sound of the water sloshing around in it's swimming pool.

    • @todd4866
      @todd4866 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't get the truth from this guy . Nothing but bullshit !!

    • @grast5150
      @grast5150 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Actually, it has been declassified, that during the cold ware, U.S. had Los Angeles class submarines following the Typhoon as soon as they left port. So in the case of nuclear war, they would have never been able to launch their ICBM because they have to surface to launch and that time is all that is needed to kill them. Especially if they had to break through ice and clear ice from decks.

    • @mikecyanide7492
      @mikecyanide7492 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@grast5150 they havent suface launched since the 60s lol dont know how told u that bs.

    • @Wolvieonepunch
      @Wolvieonepunch ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, awesome

    • @nicholasthomas4382
      @nicholasthomas4382 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mikecyanide7492 haven't ACTUALLY surface launched, or it hasn't been necessary to surface to launch their missiles? Because from what I've heard, only the US has the technology to launch while submerged, it's not an easy task.

  • @Tbs93
    @Tbs93 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I hope they put the last typhoon as a museum ship

    • @ryanjones7681
      @ryanjones7681 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Use the entire ship as a museum? Yeah, they could fit just about everything possible in it.

    • @Tbs93
      @Tbs93 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ryanjones7681 the ship is the museum and if you looked it up instead making yourself look dumb then you would know any decommissioned vessel can be scrapped or saved as a museum ship

    • @lw7238
      @lw7238 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tbs93 Russia will not be able to afford it, they will just park it and let it rot away will all the other crap.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lw7238 Does titanium oxidize in a salt water environment though? Just one of those folks too busy and frankly lazy to look things up so I can trigger basement dwellers.

    • @lw7238
      @lw7238 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anydaynow01 What's the problem dumb dumb, did you figure it out yet? That you are the one that was too lazy to look it up.

  • @Grarder
    @Grarder ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's funny, it's both relieving and a bit sad it's being decommissioned. The new ones sound just as scary, but what an interesting piece of engineering these ships were.

  • @macjim
    @macjim ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The hunt for red October sea-going mock-up was a good representation of this class of sub.

  • @_EVANERV_
    @_EVANERV_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The biggest weakness of these submarines is running while surfaced. Unlike any other submarines, a portion of the twin propellers of the typhoon submarines stick out when running surfaced. The propellers generate a very unique and loud noise signature. This makes identifying and tracking surfaced typhoon submarines very easy even over extremely long distances.

  • @milt6208
    @milt6208 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    You have to remember this is a Russian submarine. A big submarine. And the Russian aren't the best at maintaining anything much less than one of the most complicated gadgets ever built.

    • @christopherneufelt8971
      @christopherneufelt8971 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Actually is the opposite. The Russians are masters of maintenance while the USA has less maintenance and reliability management strategies for its inventory: this is not design failure: the ordering of new mil. equipment provides a vast impetus for the economy. The soviet and later the Russian economy had to deal with fewer resources as well as planned economy features of supply resulting for the surplus inventory to become quickly obsolete or scavenged for components. I remember myself in the early 90s such a surplus was even donated to Western Allies in fine condition. P.S. In the NATO manual of mil. capabilities of Russia (92? 93?) there is even a chapter on Russian maintenance where they are praised.

    • @edsalt5281
      @edsalt5281 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@christopherneufelt8971 how have Russians mastered maintenance when they can’t even provide vehicles that don’t have rotten rubber tires? Their maintenance seems very, very poor compared to the US

    • @thecatthinks
      @thecatthinks ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's why we depended on them to get us to the ISI for a few years.....

    • @Kakarot64.
      @Kakarot64. ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@christopherneufelt8971
      Looks at the Kuznetsov whose main propulsion is tug boats was the chapter praising Russian maintenance praising their tug boat availability?

    • @christopherneufelt8971
      @christopherneufelt8971 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kakarot64. Hi Kakarot. Tug boats are used in case of failure of engines or guidance to shallow ports or guidance to repair-shipyards (maneuvering in small installations). These submarines were huge compared to reparation-installations.

  • @Backroad_Junkie
    @Backroad_Junkie ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah, the star of one of my favorite Clancy books... Maybe it's time to reread the Clancy canon. 😁

  • @tiberiusgracchus4222
    @tiberiusgracchus4222 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I don't know if it's still the case but many submarine crews of various nations in WWII would carry pet mascots on board with them. USS Skate (SS-305) had a chicken for a mascot. WWI submarine O-3 (SS-64) had a goat on board.

    • @DaFinkingOrk
      @DaFinkingOrk ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Imagine the typhoons had a bear on board

    • @BlackHearthguard
      @BlackHearthguard ปีที่แล้ว

      At one time the HMS Hood had a wallaby as a mascot. Apparently it didn't do real well in the cold though.

    • @ZommBleed
      @ZommBleed ปีที่แล้ว

      Every submarine had a goat locker.

    • @studuerson2548
      @studuerson2548 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just watched a sub movie (1933) about WWI subs, and the mascot was a cat.

    • @johnfalstaff2270
      @johnfalstaff2270 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DaFinkingOrk. In your comment, could you replace a bear with an elephant or giraffe? Just to make it more realistic...

  • @HardNorthOutdoors
    @HardNorthOutdoors ปีที่แล้ว +2

    one ping....one ping only...

  • @mikeoleksa
    @mikeoleksa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now I want to watch "The Hunt For Red October" again.

  • @seanbrazell7095
    @seanbrazell7095 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's sad to know there are no more of these amazing craft plying the deeps. Even if - as an American - it's the very craft that may have been the death of ne in any city nuclear war!
    It's just beautiful badassery in engineering in action.
    Just not 💥THAT💥 kind of action. Thank god! 🙏

  • @DadJeff-jo7pm
    @DadJeff-jo7pm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Fly Big D Fly!" quoting the Hunt for Red October. Lol

  • @dreamingflurry2729
    @dreamingflurry2729 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never call a submarine a "ship"...it's a sub or a boat, but not a ship!

  • @josephotoole9088
    @josephotoole9088 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You should do the Alpha class sometime. A design based on the 661 Class and also the subject of an infamous CIA operation.

    • @Captain_Tumbleweed
      @Captain_Tumbleweed ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Project Azorian?

    • @josephotoole9088
      @josephotoole9088 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Captain_Tumbleweed no Project Sapphire. Short version is the CIA stole reactor material from a manufacturing plant in Kazakhstan to keep from being used in the early 90s.

    • @Captain_Tumbleweed
      @Captain_Tumbleweed ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josephotoole9088 Hadn't heard about that one :)

    • @atankersview
      @atankersview ปีที่แล้ว

      Im almost positive he has.

    • @josephotoole9088
      @josephotoole9088 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@atankersview I'll look thanks.

  • @coffeemarshall3484
    @coffeemarshall3484 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally, a sub that can fit American soldiers.

  • @jackshittle
    @jackshittle ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Everytime I flew ASW missions I was hoping that we'd find a Typhoon - even though I knew the chance of that happening was non existent for the most part.

    • @pb68slab18
      @pb68slab18 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      5yrs flying in P-3s myself!

  • @bubwal23xifan
    @bubwal23xifan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All that money that Russia spent building these submarines but pay their sailors next to nothing.
    Seamen get 5,000 rubles a month which is $82/month
    Chief Petty officers get 7,500 rubles a month which is the equivalent of $114/month
    Midshipmen get between 8,000 and 8,500 rubles a month which is the equivalent of $132/month.
    It's no wonder that the military is starting to have issues with manpower. No one is willing to risk their lives for next to nothing. And I'm sure the whole deal of how the Kursk was handled and the lies the higher ranking officers told the public and their superiors doesn't help either

  • @The-Dom
    @The-Dom ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Putting a swimming pool in a submarine really tickled me.

  • @christineshotton824
    @christineshotton824 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    When you look at Soviet equipment that was in use or on the drawing board in the 1980s (i.e. Typhoon SSBNs, Kirov BCGNs, Sovremennyy and Udaloy DDGs, MiG-29s, Su-33s, Yak-141s, Tu-160s, etc., etc.) and the vast size of the Soviet military at that time, then look at what's going on in Ukraine, it makes you realize that Russia is but a dim echo of the old USSR.

    • @nomaam-br549
      @nomaam-br549 ปีที่แล้ว

      All you say is likely true HOWEVER I'm sure you realize that there a full blown proxy war with US giving Ukraine some of the most advanced weaponry. The US will fight the Russians to the last Ukrainian.

    • @christineshotton824
      @christineshotton824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nomaam-br549
      Not so in the first week. The Ukrainians were unprepared and had not yet received any of the massive amount of money and weaponry from the West yet. A Russian combined arms thunder run to the capital of Kiev ground to a halt under its own weight due to equipment breakdowns and lack of logistical support capability. As inefficient as the USSR was, they could at least road march a field army 75 miles without the entire operation breaking down for multiple days.

    • @briant5685
      @briant5685 ปีที่แล้ว

      what if we look what happened in afghanistan recently..??

    • @briant5685
      @briant5685 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christineshotton824 western weapons are so unreliable and ukraine is constantly complaining of how they constanty need maintance unlike the soviet actually russian made weapons which ukraine inherited after the collapse of ussr

    • @christineshotton824
      @christineshotton824 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@briant5685
      I get it. You're a Russian troll attempting to divert attention away from Russia's failures in Ukraine.

  • @Triznac52
    @Triznac52 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I heard that "some things don't react well with bullets" in those subs

    • @LeopardIL2
      @LeopardIL2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beware with what you shoot.

  • @rikellis7871
    @rikellis7871 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Christopher, that said they're are various portals in the Arctic that provide access to a Russian submarine, where in fact the ice DOES NOT freeze due to volcanic activity. Antarctica doesn't have a pole, to sail under these are seaway inaccessible, it's a continent!

  • @Gorilla_Jones
    @Gorilla_Jones ปีที่แล้ว

    "Welcome to the new world sir"
    Jack Ryan

  • @Otokichi786
    @Otokichi786 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:32 Back to the Typhoon class submarines.

  • @memadmax69
    @memadmax69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "some things in here dont react too well to bullets"
    ^.^

  • @transmaster
    @transmaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As I understand it the Typhoon when deployed moved below the Arctic icecap and settled to the bottom and did not move. The crew accommodations were designed for long underwater duration.

    • @michaelmichaelagnew8503
      @michaelmichaelagnew8503 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nuclear subs can't settle on the bottom since their cooling intake is on the bottom. So I'm assuming you think they settled low to the bottom but not at the bottom. This is common knowledge btw.

  • @leonardgrant6876
    @leonardgrant6876 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This Typhoon class sub was runinning the Soviet Union budget, the smartest thing to do if you are a country or block with a smaller economy is to spend money wisely and not build expensive weapons.

    • @tarn1135
      @tarn1135 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hence the Reagan policies. Out spend them and make the enemy outspend themselves. Then the collapse is from within and you don’t need to fire a shot. We, the USA, f’d up the aftermath but it still worked.

    • @soren9310
      @soren9310 ปีที่แล้ว

      what ruined the Soviet Union was socialism...simple as

  • @VerdeMorte
    @VerdeMorte 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you imagine if the Typhoon subs had been retrofitted to carry multiple smaller modern missiles instead? It might have been the most on a single class ever constructed...

  • @trevortaylor5501
    @trevortaylor5501 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Apparently it handled like a attack submarine able to engage if necessary. Crazy a football field able to maneuver to a meter.

  • @cascadianrangers728
    @cascadianrangers728 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I were forced to man a submarine, if I could choose any, it would be a Typhoon.

    • @BlackHearthguard
      @BlackHearthguard ปีที่แล้ว

      A swimming pool on a sub... I'd say that's a little..... excessive? Tho I could get right behind there being a sauna in my home, lol.

    • @briantheos3614
      @briantheos3614 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, I've been a crewmember on three. Two were Trident submarines....much superior to the typhoons. Tridents have lasted 40+ years and are still in service. Typhoons lasted 8 years...all gone now!

  • @cdp200442
    @cdp200442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bigger is not better in the case of submarines

    • @briant5685
      @briant5685 ปีที่แล้ว

      this had over 200 nuclear warheads,a single of this sub was more than enough to obliterate any adversary

  • @goofyiest
    @goofyiest ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your information on the number of warheads that can be carried by a Trident is incorrect. Treaty limitations require that no more than 8 warheads per missile be carried. START treaty inspections allow for this to be demonstrated without divulging how many are actually there. So, 24*8=192 maximum, not something like 100 as you state.

  • @_--Reaper--_
    @_--Reaper--_ ปีที่แล้ว

    that submarine thicc as hell

  • @kvinteractive8981
    @kvinteractive8981 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Who else here got their introduction to the Typhoon with The Hunt for Red October?

    • @LeopardIL2
      @LeopardIL2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I watched the Premiere back in the eighties, was a kid by then.

    • @kvinteractive8981
      @kvinteractive8981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LeopardIL2 wow, must have been nice. I saw it a few years after it was released, around 92 or 92. Loved it so much I bought it on DVD when it became available a few years later. Made me look for all Tom Clancy's books. Didn't stop till I read all the original Jack Ryan novels.

    • @googlreviews7813
      @googlreviews7813 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was the case for me, I am not sure how old I was when I saw the movie for the first time but the movie came out when I was roughly 10
      When I saw it i loved it so much I bought it on DVD as well, another great classic is K19 The Widow Maker.
      U571 was garbage.

    • @kvinteractive8981
      @kvinteractive8981 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@googlreviews7813 Must say I havent seen K19, but I do have Red October and Crimson Tide on dvd. As well as all the old Jack Ryan movies. I agree U571 was horrible.

    • @LeopardIL2
      @LeopardIL2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kvinteractive8981 Eh eh I bet you have doing some good reads. There are some good books related Blind Man's Bluff, The Red Star Rouge, and Scorpion, sank by the Soviets buried by the Pentagon. Happy readings!

  • @triggerfingerstudios
    @triggerfingerstudios ปีที่แล้ว +2

    400 meter depth? I think it goes way deeper than that.

  • @yetiatlarge555
    @yetiatlarge555 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I subscribe to the whole family of channels and I am so impressed at the production quality the audio the editing and the prolific rate of production I'm very curious about the nature of your team your topic selection your research process you guys lay as a great example to a new Uber trying to make a mark with very little resources thank you for the hard work.

    • @2ero2nin3
      @2ero2nin3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      a behind the scenes would be awesome

    • @shize9ine
      @shize9ine ปีที่แล้ว +12

      If you watch enough you will start noticing the quantity over quality approach taking hold.

    • @yetiatlarge555
      @yetiatlarge555 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shize9ine It's interesting that you mention that even as a new content creator I already feel some of those pressures and notice the quality of my very low editing value is at risk sometimes in the rush to get something posted the viewers deserve a quality product with an interesting perspective

    • @gnarthdarkanen7464
      @gnarthdarkanen7464 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yetiatlarge555 It takes time to build a channel up, and it's easy to let the numbers/data run you ragged... I've noticed some things, too... BUT usually (since I understand with the algorithms and all) I let dubious details slide...
      Specifically, if you go back to the "Brown Water Navy" video about the PRB's in Nam, he mentions the second gen' being 1 foot longer, but then rattles off dimensions of 12 feet long, 11 and a half feet at the beam (indicating WIDTH)... so even without being an expert on nautical terms, since "draft" is about how much water is required to float... By context you can tell "at the beam" indicated how wide the boat was... AND then look at the video, and there's NO WAY that boat is 12 feet by 11.5 feet... It would be SQUARE or very close and a ridiculous looking thing...
      SO obviously THAT was a typo' that slipped past editing and proofs, even the narrator raced through it and never noticed a discrepancy... At first, hell... I wasn't even sure I heard it right, until I got down in the comments and I had to go back and listen to that bit a couple more times (laughing pretty hard at the mental imagery)...
      NOTHING against the guy(s) or team behind these channels... I DO get it. I try generally to look past the "little stuff"... AND only occasionally enjoy a good chuckle when enunciation or a terminology gets crossed up, or even dimensional quotes are HOPELESSLY skewed out of proportions... I usually either know what he MEANT to say or can tell roughly what should've been there, and most of the time, it's relatively harmless...
      What's important as you go is that you steadily work to improve... Build UP not backwards... Folks will notice once in a while and when it's particularly funny, we're liable to take the piss out of you, BUT even when it IS like 10,000 assholes are calling you out for something silly, TRY to laugh about it. It's a GOOF... Figure out where it got goofed, and there might be a lesson in there to improve, and after that, DO NOT shoulder the herculean task of trying to apologize or rectify for EVERYBODY... Let them have their fun... They'll get tired of it and move on, eventually.
      AND remember, if you start bitching at the internet and tell them NOT to do something, that's EXACTLY what they're suddenly going to do and find absolutely fascinating... People tend to be assholes like that... The more you dedicate to "damage control" the less control you'll tend to have over the damage... A few words acknowledging (occasionally) "Yeah, guys... what can I say... I goofed." and maybe the odd re-post if it's "really bad"... AND that's it.
      Don't let the algorithms chain you down and make you "rush" a project. It's great to hold yourself accountable, but I've always appreciated a better QUALITY product than a cheaper and quicker product... AND I (for one) tend to keep coming back for that. ;o)

    • @yetiatlarge555
      @yetiatlarge555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gnarthdarkanen7464 Thank you I appreciate your comments you have an incredible attention to detail. I liked that you focus on the big picture and still enjoy the content regardless of small imperfections .

  • @jessejamez5985
    @jessejamez5985 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    slap a runway on it and it doubles as carrier.

  • @rob1129
    @rob1129 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess that Caterpillar Drive is still top Secret

  • @well-blazeredman6187
    @well-blazeredman6187 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can still remember seeing this coming over the horizon in the Barents Sea. Gosh but it was big.

  • @JohnDoe-on6ru
    @JohnDoe-on6ru ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stop shaming the submarine she is just big hulled

  • @djr3386
    @djr3386 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your narration voice. 👍🏽 Do you do voice overs???

  • @siliconvalleyengineer5875
    @siliconvalleyengineer5875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is only one operational typhoon, and its in horrble maintained condition. However the immense amount of nuclear missiles it carries keeps it pressed into service, but for how much longer ? We all have learned that Russian military equipment has been rusting & rotting for decades.

  • @JustinAH
    @JustinAH ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've heard that the Red October had Caterpillar drive, but that's Top Secret

    • @bdickinson6751
      @bdickinson6751 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which only works until the caterpillars drown.

  • @jamesstone1493
    @jamesstone1493 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The real reason it can still hide is how huge the oceans really are!!!!!

  • @eddieschwab864
    @eddieschwab864 ปีที่แล้ว

    Correction, in 1971 the Soviet Union launched the Akula program. Typhoon is purely NATO designation.

  • @L8rCloud
    @L8rCloud ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve seen the plans for this class and there was a sauna and what looked like a hot tub but I never saw an actual swimming pool.

    • @BlackHearthguard
      @BlackHearthguard ปีที่แล้ว

      maybe they conflated the hot tub for the pool?

  • @schubiduba1
    @schubiduba1 ปีที่แล้ว

    They even had a sauna and pool to chill

  • @derrekvanee4567
    @derrekvanee4567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a ballistic submarine? bassitic missle submarine? ballistic special military diving pipe? da komrad.

  • @genericdude6551
    @genericdude6551 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's too bad everyone spends so much on weapons and not enough on improving standard of living. But it's a necessary evil.

    • @AGenericFool
      @AGenericFool ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh my god.
      A dude with a great name and a great point?
      Between all the misinformation, literaly bots ad Einsteins with extremely one-sided points?
      And with a balanced opinion, which is not idealistic dreaming etc. on either of the possible sides, that acknowledges the reality of the situation.
      What a pleasant surprise.
      xoxo

  • @jamesbaker7112
    @jamesbaker7112 ปีที่แล้ว

    Russians build a ship and then, as an afterthought, think about how to accommodate the crew.

  • @Bildad1976
    @Bildad1976 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No mention of "Hunt For Red October"?

  • @bonasperry8747
    @bonasperry8747 ปีที่แล้ว

    I read somewhere that it’s very slow turning and very slow diving being so big.it’s a joke that will be very easy to find because it’s noisy and clumsy

  • @stuartj1234
    @stuartj1234 ปีที่แล้ว

    A swimming pool!!!...............thats nuts.

  • @ruger8412
    @ruger8412 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard to believe they built 1 let alone 6.

  • @KIA-MIA-POW
    @KIA-MIA-POW ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Compared to more conventional subs, the magnetic anomaly (MAD) signature of this vessel has to be seen to be believed! You just can't hide this vessel with any degree of certainty!

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With it being made of titanium would it still have a large signature? Like I don't know, genuine question.

    • @KIA-MIA-POW
      @KIA-MIA-POW ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@anydaynow01
      Oh! Yes!..... it's not the composition of the sub that is detected, it's the interruption to the earth's magnetic field that's detected... as for sound, that varies greatly with depth and salinity levels...

    • @BlackHearthguard
      @BlackHearthguard ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KIA-MIA-POW And being a boomer it was designed to be quiet, look at all those anechoic tiles on it...

    • @KIA-MIA-POW
      @KIA-MIA-POW ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlackHearthguard ....but the design proved not to be effective as any Ohio sonar operator will attest...

  • @SilverFox-qr1ci
    @SilverFox-qr1ci ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TK210 would have been known as Typhoon 7, or Red Oktober.

  • @natbarr
    @natbarr ปีที่แล้ว

    Stopped at 1:00. I’m paying TH-cam premium so I don’t have to watch ads. I shall no longer watch your channel(s) again. Great intro!

  • @anthonyellsmore4532
    @anthonyellsmore4532 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good documentary

  • @ericlakota1847
    @ericlakota1847 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should of made one into museum I love video of the typhoon subs

  • @grast5150
    @grast5150 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Right larger! 2 reactors, 4 steam plants, 4 steam powered main engines, and enough equipment to make it actually quite loud. So big in a submarine is not the asset being claimed here.

    • @fmo94jos8v3
      @fmo94jos8v3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      forgot Soviet nuclear powered sauna :)

    • @stevenyouel8614
      @stevenyouel8614 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Boomers operator slowly with minimal equipment running. The double hull also isolated some of the sound. They were designed to operate close to their bases in bastions. A double hull will make it harder to disable or kill, requiring multiple torpedoes. They were also protected by ssns, asw warships and aircraft. They would be tough targets.

    • @BlackHearthguard
      @BlackHearthguard ปีที่แล้ว

      Funny, earlier I read a comment from a sonar operator on a Los Angeles class sub, saying they couldn't track one after it submerged because it was so quiet, after all, the thing is coated in anechoic tiles and has multiple hulls for the sound to get through.

    • @michaelmichaelagnew8503
      @michaelmichaelagnew8503 ปีที่แล้ว

      This sub has to be the loudess thing in the ocean and what hurts it most is almost all the technology is from the cold war. So that will by defalt make it louder and very easy to detect.

  • @hushpuppykl
    @hushpuppykl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So many armchair submarine analysts here. They know for a fact this sub is soooooo noisy. Then you have an actual US submariner who says this baby was hard to track or they failed to tract it. It's really comical to see the armchair analysts. 😂

  • @big_red_bear3355
    @big_red_bear3355 ปีที่แล้ว

    The typhoon shouldn't get scraped they should stay and be a Museum for the Soviet Era greatest Military weapon

  • @adamcasey6509
    @adamcasey6509 ปีที่แล้ว

    I pay for TH-cam Premium. I don't want to see 5 minutes of ads when I pay to not see them

  • @LowescC
    @LowescC ปีที่แล้ว

    the welding jobs those pigs must've created.....incredible

  • @firemanjeffgg2440
    @firemanjeffgg2440 ปีที่แล้ว

    Huh...I guess the Red October wasn't that hard to hunt after all

  • @scoreboardntlie
    @scoreboardntlie ปีที่แล้ว

    The size of the wave coming off the front of that big ol' bish made me bust out laughing in a silent library.... Worth it

  • @geothon
    @geothon ปีที่แล้ว

    My uncle worked on them in Severodvinsk.

  • @esdeekay4344
    @esdeekay4344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Two Typhoon's are still moored near the Severodvinsk harbor entrance, although not in good shape, which is a shame.

  • @steverichardson7417
    @steverichardson7417 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You forgot its most impressive feature. Each Typhoon came with a free Los Angeles attack sub 😁

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or two!

    • @shonseibert48
      @shonseibert48 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣 that's why Kursk is scrap at bottom. How many LA subs blew up

    • @GTP2-zg9tn
      @GTP2-zg9tn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a born American citizen, it never fails to amaze me the Provincialism that occurs in some people. As if ONLY America has the most Brilliant Engineering minds on the planet. Wake up and smell the Coffee. By the way, America LOST two Fast Attack Nuclear Subs. One because of Faulty Welding and the other due to a Faulty Torpedo. A submarine travels in an Inhospitable Environment. Those who serve in The Silent Service are to be commended at all times from NO matter what country they serve. Try NOT to forget this.@@shonseibert48

  • @fogoman73
    @fogoman73 ปีที่แล้ว

    A submarine is a boat, not a ship

  • @romanovobsessed3347
    @romanovobsessed3347 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a badass machine, so impressive.

  • @smogmeister
    @smogmeister ปีที่แล้ว

    My UK T-boat was the 1st hunter-killer to follow and take the signature of a Typhoon. We went to New London so the skipper could debrief the U.S.
    Fact.

  • @conantdog
    @conantdog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't forget the Russians have had a atomic Doomsday Machine for many decades .
    So much for the technically advanced American submarines etc.

  • @rockgodoftheuniverse
    @rockgodoftheuniverse ปีที่แล้ว

    VERY rare for a sub to torpedo another sub while both submerged. Almost unheard of but for WWII one instance I have seen a doc on.

  • @wit5672
    @wit5672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m sorry but it’s hilarious hearing his voice commentate a raid shadow legends video

    • @wit5672
      @wit5672 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ad*

    • @izzyman556
      @izzyman556 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is too serious lol, Maybe it will be their best ad campaign just because of his voice lol.

  • @alexmoore432
    @alexmoore432 ปีที่แล้ว

    Begs the question, after 40 years since this tech update, what sort of toys are now available

  • @johniii8147
    @johniii8147 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Typhoon isn't operational anymore.

  • @HobbitHomes263
    @HobbitHomes263 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only way to understand modern sub design is to understand the concept of " not making not a sound"

  • @GodFamilyCountryOfficial
    @GodFamilyCountryOfficial ปีที่แล้ว

    The Typhoon class is what inspired Hollywood's "The Hunt for Red October."

    • @TerryMcQ79
      @TerryMcQ79 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wrong....Tom Clancy wrote the book long before it became a movie

    • @briantheos3614
      @briantheos3614 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, look up the Global Explorer....that incident is what inspired the movie.

  • @1984WillC
    @1984WillC ปีที่แล้ว

    those are massive

  • @BohemianBeatster
    @BohemianBeatster ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressive sub, a little scary.