fa ridere che fai questa domanda quando abiti in un paese come l'italia. Italia non ti fa cittadino italiano, manco se sei nato li. quindi pensa uno che viene da un altro posto. ecco perche, perche molti paesi sono come il tuo ed un modo per mandare via la gente.
i think kiwis have a different relationship with Australia then other international countries so they are content to keep their citizenship however now that a law has been passed in Australia that if your not a citizen and commit a crime and are sentenced to 12 months or more then you are eligible to be returned to your country of origin so this change has motivated many to apply for citizenship to avoid deportation and when released they can return to their families.
It could do with their background. If you’re in constant trouble with the law you’re less likely to get citizenship , so people ride it out until they are deported.
NOPE, I've been to many countries (includes China, Egypt, India, Vientiane, Malta, America, Thailand, Italy etc), and expect to get treated horribly if I disrespect those countries.
Depends what crime and how old you were when you did the crime and if you truly rehabilitated. I mean you can charged for self defence..when protecting your own home and property.
I have worked in a school for 5 years with families and students who were deported for these issues. They were involved in distributing drugs for the Rebel bikie gang. Once the bikies cut them loose from the deal, they began to invade homes around the area at gun point and knife to make a living on top of social security (refused to work). It was well understood by the community that the oldest brother had personally murdered 2 people, but had evaded gaol due to community fear to work with police; they'd be next. The second son had bashed both the principal and deputy principal and constantly threatened and abused staff. I had to help students who they were trying to recruit as lookouts and thieves. When they and the family were deported, we all breathed a sigh of relief. Not long afterwards, the youngest son appeared on national television starting and encouraging a massive assault of ground staff at a junior NRL game. He got a lifetime ban. So what's the problem sending them back to where they came from?
I can understand why the former soldier joined the bikie gang but that was a bad decision on his part. I noticed that the interviewer scrupulously avoided asking him if he had been involved in any criminal activity.
Gotta do what we gotta do to keep the riff raff out of the country. They get plenty of leeway, this is absolutely justified. The guy at the beginning was even too lazy to take out Australian citizenship when he had the chance, which would have prevented his deportation at this point. LOL
@@tigerhood6830 yeah well, times change. Tbh lots of people came and discovered Australia, but nobody seemed to stick around until the English decided to dump people here.
You can't just arrest people who have NOT broken the law! And then hold them illegally without haibus corpus, that's not doing what you got to do to keep your country safe. That's being cruel and violating international Laws and most importantly that's not the way we should treat one another. You should never be able to arrest, hold someone, and deport someone based on bad character!!! If someone has not actually broken the Law you should NOT be able to arrest them! I am sure he never took out Australian citizenship because Australia and New Zealand have never behaved this way towards one another before!
I’m from Scotland. Been to about 108 countries. Lived as a resident in four outside the U.K. you know what? Never been deported or refused a visa as I behave. I found it easy to not get involved with the cops.
Exactly. I’m from Scotland. Been to about 108 countries. Lived as a resident in four outside the U.K. you know what? Never been deported or refused a visa as I behave. I found it easy to not get involved with the cops.
@Peter So what, if you are a serial criminal and thug in the case of these Maori Kiwis than good riddance, the ANZACS would be disgusted at their conduct.
3000 non citizens deported imagine the reduction in crime as a result. Thats one sure fire way to prevent recidivism. All non citizens of a sentence greater than 12 months off you go...gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
If you come here behave yourself. Don't mislead, they are not deported for minor crimes but significant crimes and I hope they extend it to anyone that commits crimes and from other countries. We as Australians have a right to live in peace.
J hiri you twist the truth. They are deported because of serious crime. Plenty of people have poor character but don't commit serious crime. Stay with the truth of the matter.
Well Minister Dutton has all the facts and can only deport people based on those facts so you can squeak all you like because he has all the info he needs. You only have what the media has told you. Dutton can't just toss people out without hard evidence. Squeak on......
If you are not an OFFICIAL citizen of the country you live in and you commit a felony, your minimum punishment should be expulsion. It’s really simple.
You can still have your citizenship revoked, makes no difference, we came over 24 years ago and totally agree with the Aussies. Most countries will do this.NZ needs to wake up and get rid of a lot off imported riff raff.
Only leftists and socialists like this guy from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) have any doubts that this is the right thing to do. There’s no real controversy. Love from Australia 🇦🇺
Well done Australia!! NZ has one of the highest domestic violence rates on the planet. Maybe Kiwis should focus on their own issues first before chirping at Australia for protecting their Country. With all the Kiwis here defending these criminals, no wonder domestic violence is so bad in NZ NZ the new convict nation lol love it!!
I'm a kiwi born , lived in Australia for 6 years got my citizenship within those years done all that at age 27. My point is dont sell drugs and join a gang in a country you are not a citizen of, simple. Lol Regards. Common sense.
@Thomas Kerr sorry mate, that was a few generations ago...never considered myself British/English, haven't done anything unworthy of being Australian....you?
@@denisegore1884 Actually British, Chinese and Indians are larger in number than Kiwis in Australia. Maybe Kiwis are just troublemakers. Never heard of a Brit, Chinese or Indian king hitting someone down at the pub.
My Father was stopped when visiting my brother and I in Perth after filling out a form stating he went to jail when he was 17 for 1 year, he was told we don't want your kind here, my father went to jail for stealing offences when he was 17. He was 65 when he was stopped and told was told they didn't want his kind here. He filed for visiting rights and after a long process was accepted but has to apply every time and can only spend 3months at a time here not that he would visit for 3 months. Its become to hard for him to visit so our sick Mother would visit her boys on her own. He is a well respected part of his community back home and has always been a hard working successful man and an awesome loving father. This happened to my father before I was born and I'm 45 years old, it was that long ago that if he hadn't have been honest when filling out that form that no would have ever known and he could have come and gone with no issue but was panelized for being honest about a minor 1 year jail term that happened as a 17 year old, 48 years ago. How is he deemed dangerous or a risk?
Alan B'Stard M P Unless they have citizenship, they get locked up in places far away like Christmas Island. From what I've heard from people who've worked in such places, it is a bad place, and ptsd inducing to those who work there.
@@Itag0d so people who have already served there time and paid back there debt to society, should be deported causing more society issues with kids being separated from there parents, leaving both governments paying way more than needed too, to the deportee , and the Australian government having to support the family left behind because usually the man is the breed winner, too me sounds stupid and a waste of everyones money and time
@@tigerhood6830 If them people are not Australian Citizens then Yes. The Government owes these people nothing i like most Australians support the law of deporting foreign Criminals
The more he opens his mouth the worse it gets Andrew little and Winston Peter's you guys should have more brains the labor government doesn't want them either
Why are they here in the first place? Any thing to keep the lid on wages and accelerate the big Australia madness. Who speaks for ordinary Australians who can no longer find full time work or affordable accomadtion?
They picked the wrong guy to profile if they are trying to demonstrate overzealous deportations... That drugged out wife beater earned his one way ticket out of the country. Zero sympathy.
Pete the Pirate trying to stand on the back of dead soldiers to try to get his point across. Truly sc'm. Credit to the NZ deputy PM, he wasn't buying it.
I have no real sympathy for grown adults who get deported. Especially from a wealthy country like Australia, where these men could work and afford to get therapy for their underlying issues. You’d better act right in a foreign country.
The same is happening in the US of A. This is a crime against humanity, 1) because of the fact that the people deported don't speak the language of their native land. It is abhorrent that DJT is deporting people who have never committed a crime and hardly ever had interaction with the police. One person I'm thinking of, he was deported even though he served 25 years in the military, honourably discharged from the Army. Yet ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) is picking up random people who are immigrants, and they are being deported for no other reason than he was of Mexican parentage. Another person I know of was deported because he had a misdemeanor arrest for marijuana possession. He was deported for that record alone. That's not even a criminal offence, just the lowest level offence possible. He was deported to Malayasia, where they speak some language unknown to him.
journeyer58 It's true that ICE has been deporting people for minor crimes such as Marijuana possession. The deportation rates were even higher under the Obama administration so it's not like this is a new development; it has been going on for years.
Hey u do realize kiwi can't get welfare in Aussie so stop saying kiwis are on welfare cause most work or have business and according to the Aussie govt kiwis are one of the most productive people they have living in Aussie so stop thinking kiwis are all on welfare cause we not
Kiwis used to be bad for going on the dole when they got to Australia . So that is why the government could get away with taking the dole away from Kiwis . And the government saying that Kiwis are the most productive people in Australia is spin doctoring for Kiwis cannot get the dole in Australia . You get that right ?
Strange Name For A Band Yea m8 look at ur laws compared to ours it's so much harder if not just about impossible for a kiwi to get dole in Aussie and spin u reckon lol not my fault u dnt believe Wat ur govt saying just face facts u treat us like 2nd class citizen and here in nz we treat u like family does that seem fair to u?
If only the aboriginal people could do the same thing all those years ago " get back on that prison ship and back you go " ......... well any moving on a few hundred years , you kiwis living in Aussie who are looking at coming back home via Nauru or where ever , there's enough sheep for every one. Just be good and don't be an egg.
So Australia is sending out convicts and 'people of bad character'. This is rich! BTW how is possible judges even allowed separate families. Good luck Ozzie, because when you start 'adjust' the law citizens will need a lot of luck.
I don't understand why someone would live 20 years in a country and never get their citizenship.
fa ridere che fai questa domanda quando abiti in un paese come l'italia. Italia non ti fa cittadino italiano, manco se sei nato li. quindi pensa uno che viene da un altro posto. ecco perche, perche molti paesi sono come il tuo ed un modo per mandare via la gente.
He didnt want pay the mostlikely 1000$ feel n he didnt care about it till it affected him
i think kiwis have a different relationship with Australia then other international countries so they are content to keep their citizenship however now that a law has been passed in Australia that if your not a citizen and commit a crime and are sentenced to 12 months or more then you are eligible to be returned to your country of origin so this change has motivated many to apply for citizenship to avoid deportation and when released they can return to their families.
It could do with their background. If you’re in constant trouble with the law you’re less likely to get citizenship , so people ride it out until they are deported.
Lazy and lack of personnel responsibility. Go figure.
I live in Australia, but have a NZ passport. DEPORT KIWI law breakers. I am all for it. Australia should NOT be home to those who disrespect it.
yeah untill life throws you a curveball goody two shoe traiter.
NOPE, I've been to many countries (includes China, Egypt, India, Vientiane, Malta, America, Thailand, Italy etc), and expect to get treated horribly if I disrespect those countries.
Depends what crime and how old you were when you did the crime and if you truly rehabilitated. I mean you can charged for self defence..when protecting your own home and property.
@@3four4door59 dont think bashing your partner is a curve ball.
Dual Citizenship?
I think we Californians have something to learn from the Aussies?
I have worked in a school for 5 years with families and students who were deported for these issues. They were involved in distributing drugs for the Rebel bikie gang. Once the bikies cut them loose from the deal, they began to invade homes around the area at gun point and knife to make a living on top of social security (refused to work). It was well understood by the community that the oldest brother had personally murdered 2 people, but had evaded gaol due to community fear to work with police; they'd be next. The second son had bashed both the principal and deputy principal and constantly threatened and abused staff. I had to help students who they were trying to recruit as lookouts and thieves.
When they and the family were deported, we all breathed a sigh of relief. Not long afterwards, the youngest son appeared on national television starting and encouraging a massive assault of ground staff at a junior NRL game. He got a lifetime ban.
So what's the problem sending them back to where they came from?
I can understand why the former soldier joined the bikie gang but that was a bad decision on his part. I noticed that the interviewer scrupulously avoided asking him if he had been involved in any criminal activity.
Gotta do what we gotta do to keep the riff raff out of the country. They get plenty of leeway, this is absolutely justified. The guy at the beginning was even too lazy to take out Australian citizenship when he had the chance, which would have prevented his deportation at this point. LOL
Irony is your country was built from riff Raff and criminals 🤣
@@tigerhood6830 yeah well, times change. Tbh lots of people came and discovered Australia, but nobody seemed to stick around until the English decided to dump people here.
You can't just arrest people who have NOT broken the law! And then hold them illegally without haibus corpus, that's not doing what you got to do to keep your country safe. That's being cruel and violating international Laws and most importantly that's not the way we should treat one another. You should never be able to arrest, hold someone, and deport someone based on bad character!!! If someone has not actually broken the Law you should NOT be able to arrest them! I am sure he never took out Australian citizenship because Australia and New Zealand have never behaved this way towards one another before!
Many of these people had decades to get citizenship and didn't bother, after their convictions. NZ would deport people for sure. It goes both ways.
I’m from Scotland. Been to about 108 countries. Lived as a resident in four outside the U.K. you know what? Never been deported or refused a visa as I behave. I found it easy to not get involved with the cops.
Good for you...if they can't obey your laws...they are a threat to your family!
Exactly. I’m from Scotland. Been to about 108 countries. Lived as a resident in four outside the U.K. you know what? Never been deported or refused a visa as I behave. I found it easy to not get involved with the cops.
@@frankygers me 2
We don’t want them. Love from Australia 🇦🇺
@Peter So what, if you are a serial criminal and thug in the case of these Maori Kiwis than good riddance, the ANZACS would be disgusted at their conduct.
3000 non citizens deported imagine the reduction in crime as a result. Thats one sure fire way to prevent recidivism. All non citizens of a sentence greater than 12 months off you go...gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
If you come here behave yourself. Don't mislead, they are not deported for minor crimes but significant crimes and I hope they extend it to anyone that commits crimes and from other countries. We as Australians have a right to live in peace.
zoezoe610 so bad character is a significant crime? In what other western country can they deport u for that?
J hiri you twist the truth. They are deported because of serious crime. Plenty of people have poor character but don't commit serious crime. Stay with the truth of the matter.
Bad character is not the crime or what they are deported for but the serious crime is what they are deported.
zoezoe610 did u even watch this the soldier committed no crime at all he got locked up with no charge look it up check your facts
Well Minister Dutton has all the facts and can only deport people based on those facts so you can squeak all you like because he has all the info he needs. You only have what the media has told you. Dutton can't just toss people out without hard evidence. Squeak on......
If you are not an OFFICIAL citizen of the country you live in and you commit a felony, your minimum punishment should be expulsion. It’s really simple.
Unless you're the USA tho right lmfao
You can still have your citizenship revoked, makes no difference, we came over 24 years ago and totally agree with the Aussies. Most countries will do this.NZ needs to wake up and get rid of a lot off imported riff raff.
the basic requirement for entry into Australia, is to be deemed a "person of good character".
Only leftists and socialists like this guy from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) have any doubts that this is the right thing to do. There’s no real controversy. Love from Australia 🇦🇺
agreed 👍🇦🇺 well said...
Well done Australia!! NZ has one of the highest domestic violence rates on the planet. Maybe Kiwis should focus on their own issues first before chirping at Australia for protecting their Country. With all the Kiwis here defending these criminals, no wonder domestic violence is so bad in NZ NZ the new convict nation lol love it!!
Bravo Australia I wish the USA would do the same
I think you forgot, how fucked the leaders of the usa are.
DE PORT NOW!
As a great Australian once said "Fuck Off, We're Full"
NZ does exactly the same thing with Islanders.
Why can't any of them see their wrong.
Know the laws of a country before you enter it is all I can say.
I'm a kiwi born , lived in Australia for 6 years got my citizenship within those years done all that at age 27. My point is dont sell drugs and join a gang in a country you are not a citizen of, simple. Lol
Regards.
Common sense.
Oz is your second chance that's why you came here it's up to you what you make of it.
Haha 😂
@Thomas Kerr sorry mate, that was a few generations ago...never considered myself British/English, haven't done anything unworthy of being Australian....you?
4:31 If Kiwis make up the majority of people in detention centers in Oz, that just means they're no good.
Or Kiwis are the largest group of immigrants
@@denisegore1884 Actually British, Chinese and Indians are larger in number than Kiwis in Australia. Maybe Kiwis are just troublemakers. Never heard of a Brit, Chinese or Indian king hitting someone down at the pub.
... once you had to be a convict to get to Australia lol.
Weird how the tables turn
My Father was stopped when visiting my brother and I in Perth after filling out a form stating he went to jail when he was 17 for 1 year, he was told we don't want your kind here, my father went to jail for stealing offences when he was 17. He was 65 when he was stopped and told was told they didn't want his kind here. He filed for visiting rights and after a long process was accepted but has to apply every time and can only spend 3months at a time here not that he would visit for 3 months. Its become to hard for him to visit so our sick Mother would visit her boys on her own. He is a well respected part of his community back home and has always been a hard working successful man and an awesome loving father.
This happened to my father before I was born and I'm 45 years old, it was that long ago that if he hadn't have been honest when filling out that form that no would have ever known and he could have come and gone with no issue but was panelized for being honest about a minor 1 year jail term that happened as a 17 year old, 48 years ago. How is he deemed dangerous or a risk?
Goodbye
What sickos profit from criminals
what about Chinese, mid easterners, Sudanese?
Alan B'Stard M P Unless they have citizenship, they get locked up in places far away like Christmas Island. From what I've heard from people who've worked in such places, it is a bad place, and ptsd inducing to those who work there.
Boo hoo! Tough!
It is not harsh.
Well Done Australia Fantastic Law
Fantastic destroying families is a good thing🤡🤦
@@tigerhood6830 Keeping its citizens safe from criminals
@@Itag0d so people who have already served there time and paid back there debt to society, should be deported causing more society issues with kids being separated from there parents, leaving both governments paying way more than needed too, to the deportee , and the Australian government having to support the family left behind because usually the man is the breed winner, too me sounds stupid and a waste of everyones money and time
@@tigerhood6830 If them people are not Australian Citizens then Yes. The Government owes these people nothing i like most Australians support the law of deporting foreign Criminals
@@tigerhood6830 Domestic violence doesn't destroy families?
Don't break the law,,,,that simple...
yeah, let's feel sorry for the wife beater....NOPE
But who make him like that
Why controversial? It’s simple behave and be a good citizen and you get to stay in the best country in the world. If not back you go and good riddance
yeah new Zealand is crying foul but what about the 1000s of pacific island people deported back to the islands from new Zealand ??
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The more he opens his mouth the worse it gets Andrew little and Winston Peter's you guys should have more brains the labor government doesn't want them either
Send them to the US
First interviewee reminds me of Henry Rollins (facial and physical structure only, not the wife-beating part), just a bit.
Why are they here in the first place? Any thing to keep the lid on wages and accelerate the big Australia madness. Who speaks for ordinary Australians who can no longer find full time work or affordable accomadtion?
They picked the wrong guy to profile if they are trying to demonstrate overzealous deportations...
That drugged out wife beater earned his one way ticket out of the country. Zero sympathy.
Bad form on your part mate. You were old enough to know better.
Pick up the pace Australia convicts, illegals etc. you will end up like Germany.
what do you call a grown man who wears a red bandana? A pirate?
Only controversial because you people insist on making it.
We know the rules, we fukup, we fukoff. Them the breaks.
We should do the same.
Pete the Pirate trying to stand on the back of dead soldiers to try to get his point across. Truly sc'm.
Credit to the NZ deputy PM, he wasn't buying it.
how long was he in australia you should have got citizenship it only takes 2 years if your there for 20 years gey citizenship
addressed peter winston as priminister 😂 he loved it
Lol Winnie sure did lol
Good Depot them
I have no real sympathy for grown adults who get deported. Especially from a wealthy country like Australia, where these men could work and afford to get therapy for their underlying issues. You’d better act right in a foreign country.
I'm not sure if u beat wife is aloud in Australia
I can appreciate getting "the other side of the story" but this journalist is way too biased.
The guy in this video cover look like UFC fighter mark hunt lol
Australia doing convict deportations; that's rich!
Mike Stewart, it is a turnabout I didn't see coming.
It absolutely unbelieve to me Australia can deport New Zealanders who have not officially broke the law and who have never been arrested
When did that happen?
Assui dude wants facts regarding possible human rights breach sending people back but he won't give facts on people coming back
The same is happening in the US of A. This is a crime against humanity, 1) because of the fact that the people deported don't speak the language of their native land. It is abhorrent that DJT is deporting people who have never committed a crime and hardly ever had interaction with the police. One person I'm thinking of, he was deported even though he served 25 years in the military, honourably discharged from the Army. Yet ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) is picking up random people who are immigrants, and they are being deported for no other reason than he was of Mexican parentage. Another person I know of was deported because he had a misdemeanor arrest for marijuana possession. He was deported for that record alone. That's not even a criminal offence, just the lowest level offence possible. He was deported to Malayasia, where they speak some language unknown to him.
journeyer58
It's true that ICE has been deporting people for minor crimes such as Marijuana possession.
The deportation rates were even higher under the Obama administration so it's not like this is a new development; it has been going on for years.
Send them home
how come they send those muslims that are breaking the law back home ?
FTP
FTP equals Full Time Prisoner. Basra La Vista drug dealing scum and thugs.
Can I come live in Australia. I have a clean record
do you have clean underwear?
Yeah if you cheat the system by studying nursing or something like that.
He failed a character test? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
Hey u do realize kiwi can't get welfare in Aussie so stop saying kiwis are on welfare cause most work or have business and according to the Aussie govt kiwis are one of the most productive people they have living in Aussie so stop thinking kiwis are all on welfare cause we not
Kiwis used to be bad for going on the dole when they got to Australia .
So that is why the government could get away with taking the dole away from Kiwis . And the government saying that Kiwis are the most productive people in Australia is spin doctoring for Kiwis cannot get the dole in Australia . You get that right ?
Strange Name For A Band Yea m8 look at ur laws compared to ours it's so much harder if not just about impossible for a kiwi to get dole in Aussie and spin u reckon lol not my fault u dnt believe Wat ur govt saying just face facts u treat us like 2nd class citizen and here in nz we treat u like family does that seem fair to u?
Nice one leave his cellphone number and puk code on the film..so smart.
I understand deporting the ones who committed a crime but to deport someone who did nothing wrong makes no sense
RAIN MAYHEM is very true m8
Stay there fitz
just 1000 E's
Peter futon is a very good man getting bad nz ers making Australia a safer country
wife beaters...no thank you
If only the aboriginal people could do the same thing all those years ago " get back on that prison ship and back you go " ......... well any moving on a few hundred years , you kiwis living in Aussie who are looking at coming back home via Nauru or where ever , there's enough sheep for every one. Just be good and don't be an egg.
johny broadbelt lol hard bro to many eggs playing up
So Australia is sending out convicts and 'people of bad character'. This is rich!
BTW how is possible judges even allowed separate families. Good luck Ozzie, because when you start 'adjust' the law citizens will need a lot of luck.
Because this is not the 1700s anymore.
Christchurch mosque 15 March 2019
Blessing in disguise. Australians are not really nice people by and large.
Peter Dutton is angry..if you look in the mirror and see that everyday,😭😭😭😭😭