Honestly, Paganism isn't too far off from the existential fears produced by materialist new age thinking, which constantly frets about this cryptid or that alien and what their intentions may be. It's sad how the unbelievers can never find peace.
GK Chesterton said, 'Ancient paganism was a virgin; modern paganism is a divorcee.' Modern pagans have no idea of the supernatural terror the old gods had for our remote ancestors. There were no ethical spirits. You could be judged in the afterlife, as the Egyptians and the Aztecs thought; or your goodness could earn Karma, as Hindus and Buddhists believe, so giving you a better reincarnation. But there was no reward for righteousness, other than the good report of those left behind, like the Romans and Saxons believed. It turns out the most pagan thing you can do... is accept baptism and walk with Christ!
@@HMot-g2x I think when it comes to know about what the gods are. The first thing one ought to do is to discard any and every Christian opinion on them whether saint or writer because Christianity functions on a blind faith based bias against any religion that's not itself.
@@st.mephisto8564 "Blind faith" - yeah, right. The religion that invented rationality and that describes more things since before the Germanic linguistic group existed doesn't confer any knowledge, right? If you don't listen to Christianity, listen to pairyo-tkaesha and Zarathustra. Daevas are not worthy of worship; they are not good, they are unable to distinguish truth from lie and they are terrifying entities of pure evil. Nothing good comes out of messing around with them and under their dominion, mankind are nothing more than slaves or playthings.
@@avenger4027 Both Zoroastrianism and Christianity are false. Christianity is not a source of rationality is based on fundamentally irrational propositions like talking snakes and virgin births. Any wisdom that Christianity has is shamelessly stolen from Paganism like Logos ( a stoic concept) or the platonic idea of the Good.
One outside of the debate inevitably asks, "What defines the Common Era? What happened when both clanaders say Day One. What event is so monumental and important we build our calendars around it?" If only we knew, it's a mystery eternally out of our reach, I suppose.
Roman and Greek civilization ensured that modern jurisprudence and laws were introduced in Judea and that Yeshua no longer had to dig a hole behind the house but could use a modern toilet and go to the thermal baths instead of swimming in the lake. And he was able to copy his philosophy from the Greeks. Truly dark times...
Deuteronomy 32:39 "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me" Isaiah 43:10 "You are my witnesses", declares the LORD, "and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me" Isaiah 44:6 Thus says the LORD, the King of hosts: "I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god." Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no god. 1 Chronicles 17:20 There is none like you, O LORD, and there is no god besides you, according to all that we have heard with our ears. 1 Corinthians 8:4 Therefore, as to the eating of food offered to idols, we know that "an idol has no real existence", and that "there is no god but one."
@@edm-london16601 Corinthians specifically says idols don't have actual existence, that can't be talking about idolizing yourself or items. I'm going to take God at his word when he says that he didn't personally create any other gods and that they don't exist.
In way, yes. Manifestations of the human subconscious, demons, spirits. Language has changed. What is "spirtit"? What can animate early 20th century man to , at the drop of a dime cause what happened. That is what God whils not.
Even in Christianity, according to the words of God in the Bible, there are other gods: Exodus 18:11 - Now I know that the LORD is greater than all gods. Exodus 20:3 - Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Psalm 82:1 - God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods These could all be interpreted to acknowledge that other gods exist. In the Exodus verse God himself seems to verify the existence of other gods
Yes, well. The new ones need to be pleased by acting against one's own human nature too often, just so that they won't cast you into a fire of eternal suffering. Maybe some middle ground would be nice.
Thank you, Dr. Regis Martin. You are a treasure. Your love for the one-true God shines through. I was in the last class you taught at UD, in Rome 1988. I'm grateful to still be learning from you. 🙏❤️
With great love of Our Lady I pose the following question: is Our Lady, Mary the mother of Christ, evil? The answer, of course, is no. Quite the opposite. She was sinless throughout her life. These truths however did not prevent early Arabic Christians from worshipping her as a Goddess, an early Christian heresy known as Collyridianism. These well-meaning practitioners loved Our Lady and Our Lord, but they held certain misunderstandings of their nature. Do their misunderstandings have a tangible effect on the nature of Our Lady? Do they alter or otherwise change the truth about them? They do not. And yet, suppose we did not have immediately at hand the corresponding truths pertaining to the actual nature of Our Lady when contemplating this heresy. It is well possible, I would argue, that through an act of good faith, we might well have thrown out the baby with the bathwater and decry Mary the Virgin Goddess as a heretical being separate from canonical Christianity. We gratefully know, however, that this would be erroneous. If we extend this consideration into ancient history, with any sense we may quickly realize that the religious rites and practices of our ancestors, as well as their interpretations of Divine experiences, cannot so easily be taken at face value. Before decrying Athena for example, the Virgin Goddess of Wisdom, protector and safeguard of heroes as understood by the Greeks, perhaps we should consider what history avails us in light of the truths we have the privilege of knowing within the Catholic faith. Perhaps a prefigurement of Our Lady? To summarize, while no doubt satan and his ilk had a hand to play in the daily lives of our ancient ancestors, I consider it a crime to claim God and His Angels left them to the wolves.
Mary was human like everyone around her. Claiming she is sinless is basically making her a goddess. This idea was made by people who didn't like the idea of God coming down to touch sinful humans which ruins the point of Jesus in the first place.
Not so. This implies living a sinless life, aka abiding fully by the teachings of Christ without ever failing, would result in automatic apotheosis, which is not a reality.
Now I've heard the term Eurocentrism before however my perspective on Eurocentrism is this pales in comparison to grecocentrism realism. Gross amounts of human thought is still stagnated by greek notions particularly as the bronze grip of Babylon remains strong today for better or worse. Yet, when I hear someone spouting Mother God/Mother Nature, drawing their beliefs knowingly or unknowingly from Greek mythology's symbolic deities I am personally sincerely thankful no proof the Greek pantheon, titans, and ethereal monsters ever existed whatsoever. It's honestly relieving being certain they were not real. Zeus and his children. Chronos and his children. Uranus and his children. Evident by how the same believers in a mother Earth don't even necessarily believe in those three while still somehow believing in her. Despite her inseparable involvement with all three. The God who translated in English replied when asked his name with "I Am" at least developed a legible pattern of methods for staying consistent with his continuity. Greek mythology is a horrific mess I'm glad is fictional.
You forgot some examples(1, 2, 3), apart from being somewhat unjust perhaps to the God of Aristotle (A). (A) As I know from scholastic studies, the unmoved mover was in Aristotle considered as moving the universe to motion by the love he inspired. St. Paul confirms that the philosophers had come to know _of_ God, and probably speaks of Aristotle's God verses his gods and idolatry in Romans 1:18--23. (1) Our Lord Himself commented on speeches that pagans hold before their gods as a form of nervous stuttering. Matthew 6:7 is mistranslated in some Protestant Bibles, notably Geneva Bible, Bishops' Bible and King James, but when the Greek speaks of "stutterspeaking" and St. Jerome's Latin of "wordiness" it focusses together at holding speeches because you are nervous. Like Edmund before the White Witch in a certain novel many of us love. Or, like the last words of Velleius Paterculus, written in AD 30, probably around when Jesus said this. (2) It seems a place in Jeremias speaks of people running after idols to their own harm, and well, Apollo is the prime example that comes to mind, plus Theseus believing Poseidon was his father. Laios and Oedipus, Agamemnon and Orestes paid a very high price for invoking Apollo's "knowledge" through the oracle. The Sibyl of Cumae is described in terms that my assistant professor in Latin, Anders Piltz, OP Tert., described as what exorcists have had to observe with Voodoo priestesses. In other words, Acts 16:16 is an appropriate reference. (3) As I'm a Swede and probably partly descend from Odin, that poor misguided man managed to convince my other ancestors up there that he was god. Not a good thing for them to believe ... sacrificing nine men every nine years is not a good thing at all.
"Odin" was not a man. He was known by another name in another culture - Angra Mainyu (the aspect of Vayu-Vata - the Goths took his worship from the Scythians and made him the chief god of their pantheon, even above Indra-daeva/Thor, who was supposed to be the embodiment of civilization and order), the destructive spirit. Odin inspired furor in battle - known as "berserk" - that saw people fight furiously without knowing friend from foe, the guilty from the innocent.
@@avenger4027 OK, where is the documentation for this? It isn't there. I do have documentation for Odin coming as a man to Sweden (though the geographic location might be a misunderstanding for Swabia). 1) Indirect, Tacitus says the Swabians foremost worship Mercury (Mercury / Hermes being the Greco-Roman equivalent of Odin). 2) Paul the Deacon recounts and dismisses a story that Vinniles meeting another tribe had the battle decided by Godan, he bases his dismissal on Mercury being another man who lived in Greece thousand years earlier and being the identity of Godan, and on God, not men, deciding battles. But what if he was seen in "human form" (because he was human) and was used as an umpire, instead of bloodshed? 3) Most direct. Snorre and Saxo agree that Odin came to the Swedes and deluded them to worship him. This would have happened some time in BC times.
@@hglundahl Documentation comes from Snorri Sturluson and his description of Norse myths, which he transcribed as faithfully as possible because he wanted to preserve the Norse kennings - as well as actual comparative mythology, which has evidence from all over the Proto-Indo-European descendant languages about the status of the wind god. By the time that these two authors (Snorri and Saxo) describe Odin as a man, euhemenism - a Greek invention - was already the philosophy with which they approached the subject, for they were Christians. Yet, the status of Odin as a god is unmistakeable even in linguistic evidence. "Wednesday" is named for him. He is associated with poetry, inspiration, magic (seidrkonur are LITERALLY the same as the Enarei/Anarya - foreign, unmanly/transgender priests that Scythians took from the Middle Eastern Semitic cultures (worshippers of Ishtar, originally - in Indo-Iranian context, this priestly class were the worshippers of Anahita/Api and Artimpasa/Ashi)), warfare and the atmosphere - he has a retinue of Maruts (or Einherjar). Definitely Vayu-Vata. The association with Angra Mainyu also flows naturally - because berserkers/grehma were the main and most persistent adversaries of Zarathustra and were destribed to not know reason when fighting. They were also deceitful murderers that conducted brutal sacrifices to Indra-daeva (described as a giant that freezes the minds of the righteous) and Angra Mainyu (or Ugra Manyu in Sanskrit - an aspect of Vayu as the smiter of heresy, which Zoroastrianism was seen as by the Usijs/priests of Vedic religion). And that phrase "came to the Swedes" is evidence that the worship of Vayu-Vata migrated to the Germanic peoples (from the Scythians, because their lands were where Goths were first sighted), which is why their variant of the Indo-European pagan religion was anomalous in elevating the wind god to the head position in the pantheon - and not the thunder god (which was the embodiment of civilization and order, an innovation that displaced the earlier gods and goddesses of hearth in that position) as would be expected in most Western Indo-European traditions and the Vedic one (where a constructed god - Indra - took the pantheon head spot from Varuna/Ahura Mazda).
@@avenger4027 There are ancient texts referring to Zeus and Kronos as kings who had lived centuries prior, and many cultures royalty claim to be descendants of gods. So yes, what pagans worship are dead men and demons impersonating them. Those demons may well have possessed them in life, but either way, they deceive men into adoring wickedness and imagining that men can become gods.
@@andrewpatton5114 The story of Zeus and Kronos being somehow equated with mortals comes from Euhemerus, a.k.a. the philosopher that invented euhemerism. Genuine Greek religion depicted them as transcendent beings that were considered good (it was the basis consensus of philosophy worldwide until Gnosticism) - and the humanizing myths we know now were considered to be blasphemous by the likes of Plato. Royalty claiming to be descendants of gods is a corruption of earlier Indo-European concept of khvarenah/tejas (divine favor of righteous kings, which descends to the righteous and departs the unrighteous) - which has been twisted by more primitive cultures that could not comprehend the concept into "demigodhood" and thus, an automatic endorsement of everything a ruler does, no matter how unrighteous. The West is guilty of this as well. "Divine right of kings", for example.
The demons who rebelled were thrown down into Hell; but sometimes, I wonder if there weren't some angels that stayed neutral, and were thrown down not into Hell, but onto the Earth? Given a task to defend humans on Earth until the coming of Christianity, they fell silent when missionaries reached their assigned territory. I don't teach this as fact, but sometimes I wonder if it might have been true. It would explain a lot.
Did you know that Hell was a Pagan goddess and that the word Hell was used to translate the latin word infern? lol. And that the original thesis of European christendom was that everyone who dies will go to hell because everyone sins on earth and heaven is Jesus his kingdom and only his.
@@Moesmakendehakker658 I am aware that there was a Norse goddess called "Hel", one L, and I was sure that the similarity to our word "Hell" was probably not a coincidence. We saw her portrayed in the Thor movie as Hela. But I am certain that at no time did European Christendom preach that Heaven was closed to humanity; the whole point of Christ's mission on earth was to save believers from going to Hell and joining with God in Heaven, and this was known from the very beginning of Christianity.
@@st.mephisto8564 Jesus Christ is most definitely real and the world owes Him and Zarathustra an unpayable debt. The religions they inspired kicked the barbarism in the nuts real good.
@@avenger4027 There was no barbarism. Don't fall for 2000 yr of propaganda just because it managed to make itself the prominent voice through social engineering and sword. The Christian Church doesn't represent Jesus or Zarathustra. Neither of them. That is why the versions the church peddles are false. Real Jesus and Zarathustra would be repulsed by the Church
23 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” 24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. Let it be Grandpa, or be at least honest.
I heard that one greatest difference between the pagan gods and the Christian was that while the Greek Gods were not only capricious either favoring or tormenting mortals as they saw fit they were addicted to assuming animal shapes and raping beautiful mortal women ,While Jehovah God of Christians and Jews protected the Widows and Orphans. The Pagans cheered for the lions while Christians identified with the sufferings of martyrs and the oppressed. Tyche ( random luck).ruled the world not the guided hand of God's providence.
more please! This is excellent! A good show that somewhat depicts the terrible evil of the greek gods is kaos. Our ancestors did make the right decision in eradicating the pagan gods.
Kaos has nothing to do with the original mythology. It depicts the old Gods by today's standards, thus making them "evil" or "petty", reducing the original complexity of Greek and Roman culture.
Consolidating everything to 1-3 Gods for everything removes the ability to tell the wishes of humans. The pagan approach you can tell if someone valued knowledge, love, harvest, safety, or bloodshed by which gods they prayed to. Now we have people who use the 1 to pray to Mars.
This is an interesting take. I quite like the idea of Neoplatonism which can be a pretty big tent monotheism whilst allowing "gods" to be worshipped as facets of "The One"
Why would he criticism Judaism, when it is the root of our Savior and foundation of the Father's plan for salvation? A Christian criticising Judaism on any grounds other that the Messianic status of Jesus is the most pathetic of own goals. Just go be a neo-pagan like the mustache man I bet you admire.
In his ranting he forgets that the myths are symbolic, the Gods aren't really wrathful and jealous. These myths teach us moral lessons and teach us about the nature and mysteries of the Gods, but superstitious men without wisdom will assume they are all literal. However, the bible is to be taken literally. What many Christians tend to forget is that Yahweh did far worse than any polytheistic God! The questionable actions of the Gods in the myths doesn't compare to the atrocities Yahweh committed! And Christians try to claim that Pagan Gods are evil, yet they give Yahweh a free pass, curious. Funny, the Pagans brought great wisdom and civilization to Europe, but after Christianity was adopted, Europe fell into darkness!
The Gods of Wealthy Men we see rule Stateside are even worse. People worship men overflowing with sin as messiahs because of the worldly power they possess.
This is good as far as it goes. there really IS an objective difference between the Living God and the pagan godlings but it completely misses that fact that we of the pagan mind can and do distort our perception of the Holy One and so respond ot Him in a PAGAN manner. pushing the obligation on to us of obeying the law of God when scripture clearly says that we do not is to darken our mindsets and have us seek to placate Him as if he were any other Moloch. Many have known the moral terror of an angry God - who is quick to leap on us in vindictive wrath, and we have not known a moment's peace as our knowledge of sin deepens and, given our ingrained need to do the placating - which is the very essence of paganism - we become even more terrified. and our religion turns into a death cult where we cry memento mori as if life were something to be fled and feared so no. this video is not good enough we are pagans in heart and we will make our understanding of God confirm to our pagan unbelief. just look at church history, and i mean the history of ALL the churches . THE older churches are worse offenders not because they are more pagan but because their responses have been fermenting and twisting for so much longer but we protestants will catch up the bitter truth is that if you want to find the gospel the Church is the LAST place any should ever seek it in, for they were the most fervent deniers of it
This was 7 minute long grotesque bias from a Christian who worships a jealous God and harps on about how the Pagan gods were jealous. Total horse radish about a people (pagans) no longer here to counter his grotesque mischaracterisations & lies and we are supposed to believe it Lol Yeah No! Hail the gods !
@@edm-london1660 Not only that I don't know if you consider Hinduism to be Pagansim but if it is then Hinduism clearly breaks his false characterisation. The entire BhaktiYoga in Hinduism is based on cultivating love and devotion.
Hail gods!say that when Zeus copulates with ur sis and mom or some random wanna be god demon ask u to sacrifice ur childrens life as an offering.May the lord almighty save u from this delusion.
@@edm-london1660the good samaritan was definitely not pagan. Theres a difference between non jew and pagan. The bible makes it clear that false religions are awful, and paganism is too. You can not defend paganism as a Christian
Quick question for the pagans if there are any in the comments, what ancient pagan text denounces slavery? Because I’m looking all over and can’t seem to find one thing (not necessarily religious) written by ancient Greeks, Celts, even Nordic calling for laws to end indentured servitude.
I dont know much about paganism, but i know that babylon in bible represented a world system of slavery. There are always part who suffer and minority who are nobility who profits. Like Egypt and Jews before Moses came, Romans, Babylon, etc. In 17th to 19th century when europe stopped using slavery in africa there are still warlords who conquer land and they had many slaves (Ashanti empire, Oyo Empire, Kongo Kingdom) and they sold their slaves to confederacy (south). In spiritual sense, slavery is like slave of material things, slave of addictive substance and slave of a sin. So in any case of babylon, there is no free man, even nobility are slaves of materialism.
Lol, they are even Rules how to threat Slaves in the Bible. And the Churches and their Creators made a lot of Money, still regarding the fact that the last european Slaves lived in the Papal State😂
@ “Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death.” Exodus 21:16 Oh and not to mention that Catholic King, Louis X, outlawed slavery across France in 1315; Catholic Emperor and Duke of Austria, Charles V, outlawed slavery across the Holy Roman Empire in 1515; Bishop of Rome, Pope Eugene IV, announced it was a sin for any Christian to own a slave in 1435; Anglican MP, William Wilberforce, used the biblical books to say why slavery was immoral and managed to get Parliament to pass the Slavery Abolition Act. Oh and may I remind you you live in the year of Our Lord 2024 where slavery is now outlawed across every nation yet Paganism’s uncounted year never did anything to stop it?
@ 1315, King Louis X outlaws slavery in France; 1438, Pope Eugene IV tells all followers of the Church that owning a person is a sin; 1515, Emperor Charles V outlaws slavery across the HRE; 1833, Anglican MP manages to get Parliament to pass the Slavery Abolition Act in 1834; the shortest damn war in history was fought because Anglicans wanted to stop the Sultan of Zanzibar from owning slaves. So how about you grow a pair and answer the question instead of hiding behind a red herring fallacy ok ſuckbrains?
Thank you for this stark reminder 👍🏼 Perhaps we should take our Light of the world less for granted. What darkness there was back then! Praised be God the eternal Father in Heaven, all poweful. Praised be Jesus our Saviour, Light of the world. Praised be the Holy Spirit the Paraclete, the giver of Life. Praised be the Holy Trinity, One God. Blessed be God in His Angels and Saints..🙏🏽✝️
@@ThucNguyen-rc7bjYahweh must be pitifully weak as to let his ex-angels inhabit most cultures while he sits around creating and cultivating the Jewish race.
With out the Church and Israel there was no path to Heaven, I don't think that our past is any less evil with the Church but it is a fact that to worship any "god" other than the One God, is a demon and any one who claims theirs is the true god but it does not have the qualities of the One God is not God but a demon. So God cares, is perfect and lovable and all knowing and eternal and all others are demons. Do I understand than?
Jesus said in the gospel of Thomas that they had taken the name of the good and given it to the not good. I can only speculate that He was referring to Rome who apparently has gathered up sacred text and stored them with only their world that they were translated accurately.
The "gospel" of Thomas isn't canon, and for very good reasons. We know that Thomas never actually wrote it, and it depicts a child Jesus like a mini-Zeus.
@wired4db1 It's made pretty clear that Mark and Luke were followers of Jesus at the very least during the time between the Resurrection and His Ascension, if not before. That being said, we do know much more concretely that Mark basically had become John's apprentice of sorts (or some other type of protege), and Luke while compiling his book was directly in correspondence with most of the Disciples, as well as Mother Mary. So we know with certainty that the authors of those Gospels were indeed who they said that they were. In stark contrast, the Book of Thomas claims to be written by the Disciple Thomas. But aside from the glaringly obvious problem of the depiction of Jesus being contradictory to what we know about Jesus, it's written in Greek - a language we know Thomas never learned - and on top of that it's using words and vernacular/slang from later versions of Greek, centuries after the time period it would have had to have been from in order to have been written by Thomas.
@ It is interesting that there’s so much emphasis on “Mother Mary” and the New Testament. Many are of the opinion that the New Testament originate from Rome and the writings of Jerome (JEsuit ROME)? Any ideas or knowledge about that? It would be more helpful if we had more evidence as to how we got the canonical text. Imo
You paint quite a one-sided and pessimistic view of Pagans' relationship to their gods. Do you really think no ancient Pagans loved their gods? Do you not realize that some Christians fear their God? And anyway, no, Christianity did not totally destroy Paganism, despite trying to do so. It is being revived around the world. My life has gotten much better since I began praying to the Greek and Roman deities. Christianity will never eradicate all other religious traditions, nor should it. And as a Pagan, I do not seek to destroy Christianity. Although it was suppressed for centuries, Paganism is here to stay.
Please cite one work of literature from which we can infer that people in antiquity loved their gods. Religious hymns are not valid evidence since we all know that such religions were enforced by the ruling class (cf. the trial of Socrates). But more importantly, why would they love Apollo or Ishtar? For the favors they confer as they fancy? Please enlighten us.
Be careful. You are playing with fire - and not the good kind. The worship of Roman and Greek "gods" can be a gateway for demonic forces. Those gods don't exist, but Evil does.
DIVINE MERCY MANKINDS LAST AND ONLY HOPE JESUS CHRIST, those who do not walk through the gates of MY MERCY will walk through the gates of MY JUSTICE,JESUS CHRIST
The problem is, or rather one of the biggest problems, where the false prophet who started his missionary work in 630AD
Honestly, Paganism isn't too far off from the existential fears produced by materialist new age thinking, which constantly frets about this cryptid or that alien and what their intentions may be. It's sad how the unbelievers can never find peace.
Replace aliens and cryptids with governments.
"Those who won't bend their knee to the Crucifix will bow down to any 2 sticks."
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Incredibly presumptuous. Nonbelievers are like anyone else (including Christians). Many of them find peace. Many of them do not.
What do cryptids have to do with this?
GK Chesterton said, 'Ancient paganism was a virgin; modern paganism is a divorcee.'
Modern pagans have no idea of the supernatural terror the old gods had for our remote ancestors. There were no ethical spirits. You could be judged in the afterlife, as the Egyptians and the Aztecs thought; or your goodness could earn Karma, as Hindus and Buddhists believe, so giving you a better reincarnation. But there was no reward for righteousness, other than the good report of those left behind, like the Romans and Saxons believed.
It turns out the most pagan thing you can do... is accept baptism and walk with Christ!
@@HMot-g2x I think when it comes to know about what the gods are. The first thing one ought to do is to discard any and every Christian opinion on them whether saint or writer because Christianity functions on a blind faith based bias against any religion that's not itself.
@@HMot-g2x .
Our gods are no saints but at least they dont kill billions inocent People like yahwe and his two sects christianity and judaism.
@@st.mephisto8564 "Blind faith" - yeah, right. The religion that invented rationality and that describes more things since before the Germanic linguistic group existed doesn't confer any knowledge, right?
If you don't listen to Christianity, listen to pairyo-tkaesha and Zarathustra. Daevas are not worthy of worship; they are not good, they are unable to distinguish truth from lie and they are terrifying entities of pure evil. Nothing good comes out of messing around with them and under their dominion, mankind are nothing more than slaves or playthings.
@@avenger4027 Both Zoroastrianism and Christianity are false.
Christianity is not a source of rationality is based on fundamentally irrational propositions like talking snakes and virgin births.
Any wisdom that Christianity has is shamelessly stolen from Paganism like Logos ( a stoic concept) or the platonic idea of the Good.
Instead of BC and AD, the intellectuals are now writing Before Common Era and After Common Era. That's nuts.
One outside of the debate inevitably asks, "What defines the Common Era? What happened when both clanaders say Day One. What event is so monumental and important we build our calendars around it?" If only we knew, it's a mystery eternally out of our reach, I suppose.
I use Christian Era and Before Christian Era
thats perfect not everyone is christian.
Yes it is. Because they are still basing their calendars on Jesus' birth, they are just trying to hide the fact.
@@arbiterskiss6692Well put, there’s no way around it.
As Americans, steeped in Christian Western culture, it's hard to envision just how " dark" the world was before Jesus.
America is in the dark. Hopefully Trump can do something about it.
Roman and Greek civilization ensured that modern jurisprudence and laws were introduced in Judea and that Yeshua no longer had to dig a hole behind the house but could use a modern toilet and go to the thermal baths instead of swimming in the lake.
And he was able to copy his philosophy from the Greeks.
Truly dark times...
Trump needs to repent and truly turn to God, to Christ.
Christianity is not true, and Christianity is dark
And atheists do not realize that their worship of reason is parasitic on Christianity.
Deuteronomy 32:39
"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me"
Isaiah 43:10
"You are my witnesses", declares the LORD, "and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me"
Isaiah 44:6
Thus says the LORD, the King of hosts: "I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god."
Isaiah 45:5
I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no god.
1 Chronicles 17:20
There is none like you, O LORD, and there is no god besides you, according to all that we have heard with our ears.
1 Corinthians 8:4
Therefore, as to the eating of food offered to idols, we know that "an idol has no real existence", and that "there is no god but one."
@@edm-london16601 Corinthians specifically says idols don't have actual existence, that can't be talking about idolizing yourself or items. I'm going to take God at his word when he says that he didn't personally create any other gods and that they don't exist.
Ok pedophile and fanatic false tyrant god yahwe
But, if you claim they were so evil... do you believe they existed?
Fallen angels = demons = old "gods"
@@Benjamin-mx1vf Your opinion.
I could say that God is just a usurper.
In way, yes. Manifestations of the human subconscious, demons, spirits. Language has changed. What is "spirtit"? What can animate early 20th century man to , at the drop of a dime cause what happened.
That is what God whils not.
@Benjamin-mx1vf so if the same logic is applied, then Christians = Jews.
Even in Christianity, according to the words of God in the Bible, there are other gods:
Exodus 18:11 - Now I know that the LORD is greater than all gods. Exodus 20:3 - Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Psalm 82:1 - God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods
These could all be interpreted to acknowledge that other gods exist. In the Exodus verse God himself seems to verify the existence of other gods
Love this channel! Thank you for this bold take ❤
Ones i hear an analisis, that the difference between old gods are like tigers, with you feed so that they would not eat you or your children
Yes, well. The new ones need to be pleased by acting against one's own human nature too often, just so that they won't cast you into a fire of eternal suffering. Maybe some middle ground would be nice.
Unus est deus. ✝️🇻🇦
Deus benedicat nos omnes et Deo Gratias.
No
Amen!✝
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Well, very sad! But then not for you. Your joyce!
😂 no pagan gods sent people to burn in hell for all eternity just for the sin of not believing in them. if your god exists he is a sadistic bastard
Wingardium leviosa to you too brother.
Thank you. I would buy a dvd set of his teaching. ❤ it’s so engaging and comforting
Thank you, Dr. Regis Martin. You are a treasure. Your love for the one-true God shines through.
I was in the last class you taught at UD, in Rome 1988. I'm grateful to still be learning from you. 🙏❤️
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@@robopokorny2982 Laugh as you want, pagan, the Lamb has already defeated your false gods and nothing will change this fact.
Very well presented.
Fantastic program
With great love of Our Lady I pose the following question: is Our Lady, Mary the mother of Christ, evil?
The answer, of course, is no. Quite the opposite. She was sinless throughout her life. These truths however did not prevent early Arabic Christians from worshipping her as a Goddess, an early Christian heresy known as Collyridianism.
These well-meaning practitioners loved Our Lady and Our Lord, but they held certain misunderstandings of their nature. Do their misunderstandings have a tangible effect on the nature of Our Lady? Do they alter or otherwise change the truth about them? They do not.
And yet, suppose we did not have immediately at hand the corresponding truths pertaining to the actual nature of Our Lady when contemplating this heresy. It is well possible, I would argue, that through an act of good faith, we might well have thrown out the baby with the bathwater and decry Mary the Virgin Goddess as a heretical being separate from canonical Christianity. We gratefully know, however, that this would be erroneous.
If we extend this consideration into ancient history, with any sense we may quickly realize that the religious rites and practices of our ancestors, as well as their interpretations of Divine experiences, cannot so easily be taken at face value. Before decrying Athena for example, the Virgin Goddess of Wisdom, protector and safeguard of heroes as understood by the Greeks, perhaps we should consider what history avails us in light of the truths we have the privilege of knowing within the Catholic faith. Perhaps a prefigurement of Our Lady?
To summarize, while no doubt satan and his ilk had a hand to play in the daily lives of our ancient ancestors, I consider it a crime to claim God and His Angels left them to the wolves.
And yet if you talk to an Evangelical these days, they say we worship her as Diana/Venus/Astarte/whatever name you want to replace it with :/
Mary was human like everyone around her. Claiming she is sinless is basically making her a goddess. This idea was made by people who didn't like the idea of God coming down to touch sinful humans which ruins the point of Jesus in the first place.
Not so. This implies living a sinless life, aka abiding fully by the teachings of Christ without ever failing, would result in automatic apotheosis, which is not a reality.
@@Wuldrian No one can worship God perfectly and live a perfect life. That's why Christ came down in the first place.
And by what means did Christ come down to Earth?
A useful reminder in this backsliding age!
Burnt offerings are burnt offerings no matter what name ya go by
This is beautiful. Thank you.
Now I've heard the term Eurocentrism before however my perspective on Eurocentrism is this pales in comparison to grecocentrism realism. Gross amounts of human thought is still stagnated by greek notions particularly as the bronze grip of Babylon remains strong today for better or worse.
Yet, when I hear someone spouting Mother God/Mother Nature, drawing their beliefs knowingly or unknowingly from Greek mythology's symbolic deities I am personally sincerely thankful no proof the Greek pantheon, titans, and ethereal monsters ever existed whatsoever. It's honestly relieving being certain they were not real. Zeus and his children. Chronos and his children. Uranus and his children. Evident by how the same believers in a mother Earth don't even necessarily believe in those three while still somehow believing in her. Despite her inseparable involvement with all three. The God who translated in English replied when asked his name with "I Am" at least developed a legible pattern of methods for staying consistent with his continuity. Greek mythology is a horrific mess I'm glad is fictional.
All those words, and you managed to say nothing.
@TrenchcoatNinja3 That's another way of saying I'm speaking above your vocabulary size and comprehension skills.
@@knightofkorbin888 that's cute.
That's what I call a dramatic reading. Nice.
You forgot some examples(1, 2, 3), apart from being somewhat unjust perhaps to the God of Aristotle (A).
(A) As I know from scholastic studies, the unmoved mover was in Aristotle considered as moving the universe to motion by the love he inspired.
St. Paul confirms that the philosophers had come to know _of_ God, and probably speaks of Aristotle's God verses his gods and idolatry in Romans 1:18--23.
(1) Our Lord Himself commented on speeches that pagans hold before their gods as a form of nervous stuttering. Matthew 6:7 is mistranslated in some Protestant Bibles, notably Geneva Bible, Bishops' Bible and King James, but when the Greek speaks of "stutterspeaking" and St. Jerome's Latin of "wordiness" it focusses together at holding speeches because you are nervous.
Like Edmund before the White Witch in a certain novel many of us love.
Or, like the last words of Velleius Paterculus, written in AD 30, probably around when Jesus said this.
(2) It seems a place in Jeremias speaks of people running after idols to their own harm, and well, Apollo is the prime example that comes to mind, plus Theseus believing Poseidon was his father.
Laios and Oedipus, Agamemnon and Orestes paid a very high price for invoking Apollo's "knowledge" through the oracle. The Sibyl of Cumae is described in terms that my assistant professor in Latin, Anders Piltz, OP Tert., described as what exorcists have had to observe with Voodoo priestesses.
In other words, Acts 16:16 is an appropriate reference.
(3) As I'm a Swede and probably partly descend from Odin, that poor misguided man managed to convince my other ancestors up there that he was god.
Not a good thing for them to believe ... sacrificing nine men every nine years is not a good thing at all.
"Odin" was not a man. He was known by another name in another culture - Angra Mainyu (the aspect of Vayu-Vata - the Goths took his worship from the Scythians and made him the chief god of their pantheon, even above Indra-daeva/Thor, who was supposed to be the embodiment of civilization and order), the destructive spirit. Odin inspired furor in battle - known as "berserk" - that saw people fight furiously without knowing friend from foe, the guilty from the innocent.
@@avenger4027 OK, where is the documentation for this?
It isn't there.
I do have documentation for Odin coming as a man to Sweden (though the geographic location might be a misunderstanding for Swabia).
1) Indirect, Tacitus says the Swabians foremost worship Mercury (Mercury / Hermes being the Greco-Roman equivalent of Odin).
2) Paul the Deacon recounts and dismisses a story that Vinniles meeting another tribe had the battle decided by Godan, he bases his dismissal on Mercury being another man who lived in Greece thousand years earlier and being the identity of Godan, and on God, not men, deciding battles. But what if he was seen in "human form" (because he was human) and was used as an umpire, instead of bloodshed?
3) Most direct. Snorre and Saxo agree that Odin came to the Swedes and deluded them to worship him. This would have happened some time in BC times.
@@hglundahl Documentation comes from Snorri Sturluson and his description of Norse myths, which he transcribed as faithfully as possible because he wanted to preserve the Norse kennings - as well as actual comparative mythology, which has evidence from all over the Proto-Indo-European descendant languages about the status of the wind god.
By the time that these two authors (Snorri and Saxo) describe Odin as a man, euhemenism - a Greek invention - was already the philosophy with which they approached the subject, for they were Christians. Yet, the status of Odin as a god is unmistakeable even in linguistic evidence. "Wednesday" is named for him. He is associated with poetry, inspiration, magic (seidrkonur are LITERALLY the same as the Enarei/Anarya - foreign, unmanly/transgender priests that Scythians took from the Middle Eastern Semitic cultures (worshippers of Ishtar, originally - in Indo-Iranian context, this priestly class were the worshippers of Anahita/Api and Artimpasa/Ashi)), warfare and the atmosphere - he has a retinue of Maruts (or Einherjar). Definitely Vayu-Vata. The association with Angra Mainyu also flows naturally - because berserkers/grehma were the main and most persistent adversaries of Zarathustra and were destribed to not know reason when fighting. They were also deceitful murderers that conducted brutal sacrifices to Indra-daeva (described as a giant that freezes the minds of the righteous) and Angra Mainyu (or Ugra Manyu in Sanskrit - an aspect of Vayu as the smiter of heresy, which Zoroastrianism was seen as by the Usijs/priests of Vedic religion).
And that phrase "came to the Swedes" is evidence that the worship of Vayu-Vata migrated to the Germanic peoples (from the Scythians, because their lands were where Goths were first sighted), which is why their variant of the Indo-European pagan religion was anomalous in elevating the wind god to the head position in the pantheon - and not the thunder god (which was the embodiment of civilization and order, an innovation that displaced the earlier gods and goddesses of hearth in that position) as would be expected in most Western Indo-European traditions and the Vedic one (where a constructed god - Indra - took the pantheon head spot from Varuna/Ahura Mazda).
@@avenger4027 There are ancient texts referring to Zeus and Kronos as kings who had lived centuries prior, and many cultures royalty claim to be descendants of gods. So yes, what pagans worship are dead men and demons impersonating them. Those demons may well have possessed them in life, but either way, they deceive men into adoring wickedness and imagining that men can become gods.
@@andrewpatton5114 The story of Zeus and Kronos being somehow equated with mortals comes from Euhemerus, a.k.a. the philosopher that invented euhemerism. Genuine Greek religion depicted them as transcendent beings that were considered good (it was the basis consensus of philosophy worldwide until Gnosticism) - and the humanizing myths we know now were considered to be blasphemous by the likes of Plato.
Royalty claiming to be descendants of gods is a corruption of earlier Indo-European concept of khvarenah/tejas (divine favor of righteous kings, which descends to the righteous and departs the unrighteous) - which has been twisted by more primitive cultures that could not comprehend the concept into "demigodhood" and thus, an automatic endorsement of everything a ruler does, no matter how unrighteous. The West is guilty of this as well. "Divine right of kings", for example.
The demons who rebelled were thrown down into Hell; but sometimes, I wonder if there weren't some angels that stayed neutral, and were thrown down not into Hell, but onto the Earth? Given a task to defend humans on Earth until the coming of Christianity, they fell silent when missionaries reached their assigned territory. I don't teach this as fact, but sometimes I wonder if it might have been true. It would explain a lot.
Did you know that Hell was a Pagan goddess and that the word Hell was used to translate the latin word infern? lol. And that the original thesis of European christendom was that everyone who dies will go to hell because everyone sins on earth and heaven is Jesus his kingdom and only his.
@@Moesmakendehakker658 I am aware that there was a Norse goddess called "Hel", one L, and I was sure that the similarity to our word "Hell" was probably not a coincidence. We saw her portrayed in the Thor movie as Hela. But I am certain that at no time did European Christendom preach that Heaven was closed to humanity; the whole point of Christ's mission on earth was to save believers from going to Hell and joining with God in Heaven, and this was known from the very beginning of Christianity.
Beautiful.
A very good analysis of those evil pagans gods. Thank God Christianity triumph over those idols
Lol no 🤣🤣🤣🤣. We are still here and we coming back with our gods také our earth from your sect.
@@robopokorny2982 "We are coming back" - keep dreaming, daeva-worshipper. What Zarathustra has started, Jesus Christ will finish!
@avenger4027 Both Zarathustra and Jesus Christ are false idols you should abandon
@@st.mephisto8564 Jesus Christ is most definitely real and the world owes Him and Zarathustra an unpayable debt. The religions they inspired kicked the barbarism in the nuts real good.
@@avenger4027 There was no barbarism. Don't fall for 2000 yr of propaganda just because it managed to make itself the prominent voice through social engineering and sword.
The Christian Church doesn't represent Jesus or Zarathustra. Neither of them. That is why the versions the church peddles are false.
Real Jesus and Zarathustra would be repulsed by the Church
23 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” 24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys.
Let it be Grandpa, or be at least honest.
Praise to you, our Lord, Jesus Christ.
Thank you!
I heard that one greatest difference between the pagan gods and the Christian was that while the Greek Gods were not only capricious either favoring or tormenting mortals as they saw fit they were addicted to assuming animal shapes and raping beautiful mortal women ,While Jehovah God of Christians and Jews protected the Widows and Orphans. The Pagans cheered for the lions while Christians identified with the sufferings of martyrs and the oppressed. Tyche ( random luck).ruled the world not the guided hand of God's providence.
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Thanks God, this will be good 😁😎
more please! This is excellent! A good show that somewhat depicts the terrible evil of the greek gods is kaos. Our ancestors did make the right decision in eradicating the pagan gods.
😂 no pagan gods sent people to burn in hell get all eternity just for the sin of not believing in them. if your god exists he is a sadistic bastard
Kaos has nothing to do with the original mythology. It depicts the old Gods by today's standards, thus making them "evil" or "petty", reducing the original complexity of Greek and Roman culture.
They did not eradicate the gods, they moved on. The monks and priests saved the stories.
Consolidating everything to 1-3 Gods for everything removes the ability to tell the wishes of humans. The pagan approach you can tell if someone valued knowledge, love, harvest, safety, or bloodshed by which gods they prayed to. Now we have people who use the 1 to pray to Mars.
This is an interesting take. I quite like the idea of Neoplatonism which can be a pretty big tent monotheism whilst allowing "gods" to be worshipped as facets of "The One"
Well said Bro.
Excellent!
Thank you!
Been saying this for years.
Bet you don't have the courage to criticize the religion that owns the media...
And what's that religion?
@@user-zw8k You seriously don't know? Jews! Look up the wikipedia of richest Americans, it'll open your eyes to who has power.
@@user-zw8k talmudic judaism
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Why would he criticism Judaism, when it is the root of our Savior and foundation of the Father's plan for salvation? A Christian criticising Judaism on any grounds other that the Messianic status of Jesus is the most pathetic of own goals. Just go be a neo-pagan like the mustache man I bet you admire.
In his ranting he forgets that the myths are symbolic, the Gods aren't really wrathful and jealous. These myths teach us moral lessons and teach us about the nature and mysteries of the Gods, but superstitious men without wisdom will assume they are all literal.
However, the bible is to be taken literally. What many Christians tend to forget is that Yahweh did far worse than any polytheistic God! The questionable actions of the Gods in the myths doesn't compare to the atrocities Yahweh committed! And Christians try to claim that Pagan Gods are evil, yet they give Yahweh a free pass, curious. Funny, the Pagans brought great wisdom and civilization to Europe, but after Christianity was adopted, Europe fell into darkness!
Amen.
Very well said...
something is creaking throughout
the imp4tent r4ge of hll.
The gods of woke and new age and neo occult are even more reprehensible
The Gods of Wealthy Men we see rule Stateside are even worse. People worship men overflowing with sin as messiahs because of the worldly power they possess.
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This is good as far as it goes. there really IS an objective difference between the Living God and the pagan godlings
but it completely misses that fact that we of the pagan mind can and do distort our perception of the Holy One and so respond ot Him in a PAGAN manner.
pushing the obligation on to us of obeying the law of God when scripture clearly says that we do not is to darken our mindsets and have us seek to placate Him as if he were any other Moloch.
Many have known the moral terror of an angry God - who is quick to leap on us in vindictive wrath, and we have not known a moment's peace as our knowledge of sin deepens and, given our ingrained need to do the placating - which is the very essence of paganism - we become even more terrified.
and our religion turns into a death cult where we cry memento mori as if life were something to be fled and feared
so no.
this video is not good enough
we are pagans in heart and we will make our understanding of God confirm to our pagan unbelief.
just look at church history, and i mean the history of ALL the churches
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THE older churches are worse offenders not because they are more pagan but because their responses have been fermenting and twisting for so much longer but we protestants will catch up
the bitter truth is that if you want to find the gospel the Church is the LAST place any should ever seek it in, for they were the most fervent deniers of it
Amen!
This was 7 minute long grotesque bias from a Christian who worships a jealous God and harps on about how the Pagan gods were jealous. Total horse radish about a people (pagans) no longer here to counter his grotesque mischaracterisations & lies and we are supposed to believe it Lol
Yeah No!
Hail the gods !
@@edm-london1660 Not only that I don't know if you consider Hinduism to be Pagansim but if it is then Hinduism clearly breaks his false characterisation.
The entire BhaktiYoga in Hinduism is based on cultivating love and devotion.
'The gods' are not your friends. They know no mercy, they care not for your friendship, if you attract their notice it could go very bad for you.
@@HMot-g2x Every word of what u said is Christian propaganda and bullshit.
Hail gods!say that when Zeus copulates with ur sis and mom or some random wanna be god demon ask u to sacrifice ur childrens life as an offering.May the lord almighty save u from this delusion.
@@edm-london1660the good samaritan was definitely not pagan. Theres a difference between non jew and pagan. The bible makes it clear that false religions are awful, and paganism is too. You can not defend paganism as a Christian
Quick question for the pagans if there are any in the comments, what ancient pagan text denounces slavery? Because I’m looking all over and can’t seem to find one thing (not necessarily religious) written by ancient Greeks, Celts, even Nordic calling for laws to end indentured servitude.
I dont know much about paganism, but i know that babylon in bible represented a world system of slavery. There are always part who suffer and minority who are nobility who profits. Like Egypt and Jews before Moses came, Romans, Babylon, etc. In 17th to 19th century when europe stopped using slavery in africa there are still warlords who conquer land and they had many slaves (Ashanti empire, Oyo Empire, Kongo Kingdom) and they sold their slaves to confederacy (south). In spiritual sense, slavery is like slave of material things, slave of addictive substance and slave of a sin. So in any case of babylon, there is no free man, even nobility are slaves of materialism.
There's no explicit condemnation of slavery in the bible either
Lol, they are even Rules how to threat Slaves in the Bible. And the Churches and their Creators made a lot of Money, still regarding the fact that the last european Slaves lived in the Papal State😂
@ “Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death.” Exodus 21:16
Oh and not to mention that Catholic King, Louis X, outlawed slavery across France in 1315; Catholic Emperor and Duke of Austria, Charles V, outlawed slavery across the Holy Roman Empire in 1515; Bishop of Rome, Pope Eugene IV, announced it was a sin for any Christian to own a slave in 1435; Anglican MP, William Wilberforce, used the biblical books to say why slavery was immoral and managed to get Parliament to pass the Slavery Abolition Act. Oh and may I remind you you live in the year of Our Lord 2024 where slavery is now outlawed across every nation yet Paganism’s uncounted year never did anything to stop it?
@ 1315, King Louis X outlaws slavery in France; 1438, Pope Eugene IV tells all followers of the Church that owning a person is a sin; 1515, Emperor Charles V outlaws slavery across the HRE; 1833, Anglican MP manages to get Parliament to pass the Slavery Abolition Act in 1834; the shortest damn war in history was fought because Anglicans wanted to stop the Sultan of Zanzibar from owning slaves. So how about you grow a pair and answer the question instead of hiding behind a red herring fallacy ok ſuckbrains?
Including Yahweh, Asherah, El, and Baal. Oh don’t forget Els children the Nephilim
The mic is too low, it's very hard to understand
And yet the God who massacres his own people gets off scot-free…
you are God's Property, you were alowed to be B0rn here instead of directly in hll to give you this ONE chance to Repent.
your curses are Consummately Returned.
Why did he massacre them and when? And what did he do? And where did they go after they died?
You mean the Creator of life moves His creation from the material plane to the spiritual?
Spoiler: That happens to everyone.
You obviously don't get it yet. Or you obviously don't understand.
Amen, 👍
I knew you guys believed in other gods!
Yeah,cause we believe in demons.
Thanks be to God. Amen!
You forgot to capitalize "Pagan"
Thank you for this stark reminder 👍🏼 Perhaps we should take our Light of the world less for granted. What darkness there was back then!
Praised be God the eternal Father in Heaven, all poweful. Praised be Jesus our Saviour, Light of the world.
Praised be the Holy Spirit the Paraclete, the giver of Life.
Praised be the Holy Trinity, One God.
Blessed be God in His Angels and Saints..🙏🏽✝️
⛪Quis ut Deus?❤🙏
Beautiful words, I loved it.
Good video principle, but far too much poetry, and not enough facts.
What about those pagan gods still on our planet now ? In Asia , in India and more countries .Tell us about those
At best, False Idols, at worst Demons; NEVER Another Way!
Always demons in disguised, never a false idols.
@@ThucNguyen-rc7bjYahweh must be pitifully weak as to let his ex-angels inhabit most cultures while he sits around creating and cultivating the Jewish race.
MARTIN!!!!!
Well said, praise Jesus.
You don’t know everything you’re saying
If the gods behavior sounds devilish it is because they are devils.
Your god drowned children to death
With out the Church and Israel there was no path to Heaven, I don't think that our past is any less evil with the Church but it is a fact that to worship any "god" other than the One God, is a demon and any one who claims theirs is the true god but it does not have the qualities of the One God is not God but a demon. So God cares, is perfect and lovable and all knowing and eternal and all others are demons. Do I understand than?
How do you know its a demon? Many of them may just be nothing?
Also what evil things that were just as evil did Israel or the church do?
Jesus said in the gospel of Thomas that they had taken the name of the good and given it to the not good. I can only speculate that He was referring to Rome who apparently has gathered up sacred text and stored them with only their world that they were translated accurately.
The "gospel" of Thomas isn't canon, and for very good reasons. We know that Thomas never actually wrote it, and it depicts a child Jesus like a mini-Zeus.
@ who are mark and Luke? I don’t remember them being disciples or apostles. Can there authenticity be confirmed or are they actually pseudepigrapha?
@wired4db1 It's made pretty clear that Mark and Luke were followers of Jesus at the very least during the time between the Resurrection and His Ascension, if not before. That being said, we do know much more concretely that Mark basically had become John's apprentice of sorts (or some other type of protege), and Luke while compiling his book was directly in correspondence with most of the Disciples, as well as Mother Mary. So we know with certainty that the authors of those Gospels were indeed who they said that they were.
In stark contrast, the Book of Thomas claims to be written by the Disciple Thomas. But aside from the glaringly obvious problem of the depiction of Jesus being contradictory to what we know about Jesus, it's written in Greek - a language we know Thomas never learned - and on top of that it's using words and vernacular/slang from later versions of Greek, centuries after the time period it would have had to have been from in order to have been written by Thomas.
@ It is interesting that there’s so much emphasis on “Mother Mary” and the New Testament. Many are of the opinion that the New Testament originate from Rome and the writings of Jerome (JEsuit ROME)? Any ideas or knowledge about that? It would be more helpful if we had more evidence as to how we got the canonical text. Imo
@wired4db1 That claim falls apart under even a very little amount of scrutiny.
You paint quite a one-sided and pessimistic view of Pagans' relationship to their gods. Do you really think no ancient Pagans loved their gods? Do you not realize that some Christians fear their God? And anyway, no, Christianity did not totally destroy Paganism, despite trying to do so. It is being revived around the world. My life has gotten much better since I began praying to the Greek and Roman deities. Christianity will never eradicate all other religious traditions, nor should it. And as a Pagan, I do not seek to destroy Christianity. Although it was suppressed for centuries, Paganism is here to stay.
Interesting! Do you make any sacrifices to them?
@martina.echeverria3767 Only things like incense, or libations of wine or pure water - no animals lol.
Please cite one work of literature from which we can infer that people in antiquity loved their gods. Religious hymns are not valid evidence since we all know that such religions were enforced by the ruling class (cf. the trial of Socrates). But more importantly, why would they love Apollo or Ishtar? For the favors they confer as they fancy? Please enlighten us.
Repent and believe the Gospel.
Be careful. You are playing with fire - and not the good kind. The worship of Roman and Greek "gods" can be a gateway for demonic forces. Those gods don't exist, but Evil does.
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I can't hear anything I'm sorry
Turn up the volume of your device
The most prominent feature about the Christian god is his infinite capacity to take offence. In reality, it is his only "omni" feature.
The prominent feature in your blood thirsty god is their infinite capacity to kill. Steal and destroy
You have obviously never read the Bible or studied the Sacred Scriptures with the mind of Christ’s Catholic Church.
God Is The Uncreated, Uncontingent Prime Mover Who Creates And Sustains All.
you, like EVERYTHING, are a Created, Contingent being.
All God Does Is For The Good Of The Created.
DIVINE MERCY MANKINDS LAST AND ONLY HOPE JESUS CHRIST, those who do not walk through the gates of MY MERCY will walk through the gates of MY JUSTICE,JESUS CHRIST
Read psalm 82 in ESV translation and see what Jesus said about Himself in John using this Psalm