Great breakdown. I'm not sure I would spend the 500 on it, but it's good to know there's another vintage bottle of rum I'll never taste. I see this channel growing and great things happening here 👏🏾.
Arminder... my man... that’s a FANTASTIC video mate. Ignoring the price tag and such... and my own personal view of this Rum... your Rum breakdowns...this actual Video... it's all spot on the money! Great content! 👏👏👏
@@therumrevival Yeah, but it was wasted on me. Really Decent. Can tell the quality. But I didn't really appreciate it for what it was. Much like the A15. Totally wasted on me. I'm happy with the 12...but actually quite happily drink the 8.
I’m curious what specs you used for your Mai Tai? This was a really the video I was waiting for, I always respect your opinions, glade you got your hands on that rum to review. I’m confident like you said there are other better rums out there.
Thanks so much! The Smuggler's Cove specs I went with are: 2 ounces rum 1/2 ounce orange curaçao (Pierre Ferrand) 3/4 ounce lime juice, freshly squeezed 1/4 ounce orgeat 1/4 ounce Rich Mai Tai Syrup
@@therumrevival You really should have mentioned the specs you used in the actual video. I'm glad someone else asked the question because i was going to myself, but just saying 'orgeat' doesn't help. You need to be more specific.
I just stumbled on your channel and im sure to say, that i will stick around for long. Great content, the production is excellent and yet, you are the YT newbie... Very curious how this channel will go on in future, the potential is very obvious so keep it up. All best from Poland, na zdrowie!
Very cool breakdown. I just use 1.5 oz of Appleton 12, and .5 of Wray and Nephew. No idea if this is what this cocktail is suppose to taste like, but I can say that it does taste delicious.
Another great video, Arminder. Please keep up the good work, thinking this channel will be growing exponentially. Love the comments and tasting of the Appleton 17 as well as the Mai Tai. Did you use the "classic" 3/4 oz lime, or the recipe on the Legend box? Hopefully Appleton is continuing to produce these marques so that we may have another opportunity next year.
wasn't able to get a bottle at a popular local liquor in NYC as it was sold out instantly. not sure I would put the trigger on a 17 yr old for $500 if it was available. thx for the great review
Awesome video Arminder! Always happy to hear your thoughts and perspective since I find your palette reliable and nuanced. I think your idea/ hope for a non age statement version is my ideal scenario to come out of this whole thing. Now all I need to do is figure out what I’m gonna do with my bottle in the meantime……
Good to hear that the rum really comes alive in a mai tai! I do have to say that the (at least according to your pallete) lack of fruity hogo is making me feel a lot less bad about not getting to try it myself. Considering it's all pot still, I was really hoping for an Appleton with a bit of amped-up funk, even if it was rounded off by the age. It would be cool if Appleton/J Wray did some more pure pot still releases, maybe ones that are a little more available and a little less cost prohibitive lol.
Like you said, it makes sense for them to release the 17 year under the Appleton brand, but if they did do the NAS mai tai blend like you said, it'd interesting if they did it under J Wray and called it "original mai tai rum" or something like that.
Nice review. Yea this bottle is too rare and expensive for me. What do you think of the 15 year old? I feel like it's reviewed less than the other core bottlings. I really love the 12 year old. I think most people do.
@@BhutWhut That's tough as I'd recommend looking for an independent bottling of trinidad rum but generally I'm not seeing any on the market at this moment. Holmes Cay has some Ten Cane Trinidad rums out that are additive free, but I wasn't in love with it. There are some new Samaroli Trinidad releases but I haven't had them and they are kinda pricey.
@@therumrevival I've had Angostura 1919 but it seemed very sweet and the vanilla was overwhelming. I was just looking for something at the price point of Kaniche (Barbados) but from Trinidad. I know that on the island they have a great variety, but I guess much of it doesn't get exported. At least there are lots of Barbados options here stateside. BTW, we rummies appreciate the great job you're doing with this channel. Keep it up. 👍
@@BhutWhut Yeah I really wish the Angosutra stuff didn't taste so sweet. Having looked into it a bit more, definitely seems like there is a hole in the market for an undosed affordable trinidad rum. Also, thank you for watching and the support!
I’d be interested to know the rest of your recipe. What orange liqueur and orgeat and how much? I’ve been tweaking my recipe for a year. This “original” MaiTai makes me think of seeing a film and someone tells me the book was better but I don’t care because I don’t have that point of reference and I really liked the film.
@@therumrevival Thank you... My last batch was : 1 Appleton Estate 12 1 Plantation Original Dark 1 Lime Juice 1/4 Grand Marnier 1/4 Clémont Creole Shrubb 1/4 Giffard Orgeat Dash of Black Walnut Bitters small Pinch of Salt My wife just dislikes Pierre Ferrand so that's out and the other two have a nice complexity together. Giffard Orgeat is very flavorful so a little goes a long way. Liber & Co is good too.
@@therumrevival Ah, gotcha. So I suppose you got it at MSRP at least! I’m one that hopes they might bring this blend back again. I understand it isn’t identical and I know it would theoretically devalue people who had already bought theirs now but unlike Appleton 21 and other Foursquare releases that I can’t afford (for now), it seems I may never be able to get hands on this.
Yeah, there was no way I was going to pay more than MSRP. And I'm totally fine with my bottle getting devalued if it means others can enjoy it@@parkeranderson1172
@therumrevival AE8 is the funkiest, it holds up the best in cocktails. Signature is actually great, too. Where AE12 shines is as a bridge to whisky people. It's a fantastic way to introduce jamaican rum to bourbon drinkers.
One would suspect that the people who made W&N would have some to match the flavor. Three dots and a dash in Chicago has a bottle of W&N and a vintage orange liqueur which they noted was sweeter than current curaçao’s. You can get a mai tai with them for $800. There is an article in food&wine. I’ve had their regular priced mai tai which tries to emulate it and it’s good but I like the ones make at home Bette because they are to my tastes… my wife and friends like it better too.
Wow, that would be cool to try that Three Dots mai tai. Though boy is it expensive. I think you are spot on, the best mai tai is the one that is to your taste.
Would be interesting to see people with access to this trying for mixtures of existing rums to make an attempt at replication. That or even an oak spiral in a cheaper bottle (as I have done with make "Prudent Pappy" bourbon having watched vids on that).
Yeah, seems like folks are trying to reverse engineer it. I might try, but I will say that the combo of jamaican rum and rum agricole doesn't really seem to match AE 17.
"Any press and goodwill that comes out of this release, they'd want to channel that into their actual brand" - ah, but what if they did the release in an extremely annoying way that made a lot of people angry?
All I want is 15 year Appleton at cask strength. Willing pay $125-150. Please take my money Appleton.
I would love a cask strength 15 year. Cask Strength anything from Appleton would be great!
Great breakdown. I'm not sure I would spend the 500 on it, but it's good to know there's another vintage bottle of rum I'll never taste. I see this channel growing and great things happening here 👏🏾.
Thank you sir! Yeah I think this purchase kinda blew my rum buying budget for a couple of months lol
Arminder... my man... that’s a FANTASTIC video mate. Ignoring the price tag and such... and my own personal view of this Rum... your Rum breakdowns...this actual Video... it's all spot on the money! Great content! 👏👏👏
Hey Steve, thanks soo much! Means a lot! Did you get to try some at The Rum Show?
@@therumrevival Yeah, but it was wasted on me. Really Decent. Can tell the quality. But I didn't really appreciate it for what it was. Much like the A15. Totally wasted on me. I'm happy with the 12...but actually quite happily drink the 8.
Love this, great video. Glad to find a high quality, knowledgeable, charismatic rum reviewer. Can't wait to check out your other videos.
Much appreciated! Thank you!
I’m curious what specs you used for your Mai Tai? This was a really the video I was waiting for, I always respect your opinions, glade you got your hands on that rum to review. I’m confident like you said there are other better rums out there.
Thanks so much! The Smuggler's Cove specs I went with are:
2 ounces rum
1/2 ounce orange curaçao (Pierre Ferrand)
3/4 ounce lime juice, freshly squeezed
1/4 ounce orgeat
1/4 ounce Rich Mai Tai Syrup
@@therumrevival You really should have mentioned the specs you used in the actual video. I'm glad someone else asked the question because i was going to myself, but just saying 'orgeat' doesn't help. You need to be more specific.
I just stumbled on your channel and im sure to say, that i will stick around for long. Great content, the production is excellent and yet, you are the YT newbie... Very curious how this channel will go on in future, the potential is very obvious so keep it up. All best from Poland, na zdrowie!
Thanks so much I appreciate the support!
Thanks Arminder for taking us on this little journey. Really enjoyed it!
And don’t forget the dark rum float on top of that next mai tai 😂
LOL of course - how could I forget the dark rum float.... and grenadine!
@@therumrevival ah, of course the grenadine! 😂
Great video, I stumbled upon your channel and love all your content and approach to rum. Subscribed and looking forward to more! thanks.
Thanks so much!
Insane you were able to snag that bottle! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
Very cool breakdown. I just use 1.5 oz of Appleton 12, and .5 of Wray and Nephew. No idea if this is what this cocktail is suppose to taste like, but I can say that it does taste delicious.
I'll use that exact same combo time to time. Makes for a great mai tai
Didn't know rum nerds was a thing, but glad someone has this beverage on information lock down.
Thanks! And oh yeah there are tons of rum nerds.
Good review , like. Cheers !
Thank you! Cheers!
Another great video, Arminder. Please keep up the good work, thinking this channel will be growing exponentially. Love the comments and tasting of the Appleton 17 as well as the Mai Tai. Did you use the "classic" 3/4 oz lime, or the recipe on the Legend box? Hopefully Appleton is continuing to produce these marques so that we may have another opportunity next year.
Thank you so much! Yep, I went with 3/4oz lime - the one in the Smuggler's Cove book. Yeah fingers crossed we see more down the line.
wasn't able to get a bottle at a popular local liquor in NYC as it was sold out instantly. not sure I would put the trigger on a 17 yr old for $500 if it was available. thx for the great review
Awesome video Arminder! Always happy to hear your thoughts and perspective since I find your palette reliable and nuanced. I think your idea/ hope for a non age statement version is my ideal scenario to come out of this whole thing. Now all I need to do is figure out what I’m gonna do with my bottle in the meantime……
Thanks! Yeah, fingers crossed something like that comes out of all this. In the meantime, we'll just have to suffer through our bottles of Legend lol
Good to hear that the rum really comes alive in a mai tai! I do have to say that the (at least according to your pallete) lack of fruity hogo is making me feel a lot less bad about not getting to try it myself. Considering it's all pot still, I was really hoping for an Appleton with a bit of amped-up funk, even if it was rounded off by the age.
It would be cool if Appleton/J Wray did some more pure pot still releases, maybe ones that are a little more available and a little less cost prohibitive lol.
Like you said, it makes sense for them to release the 17 year under the Appleton brand, but if they did do the NAS mai tai blend like you said, it'd interesting if they did it under J Wray and called it "original mai tai rum" or something like that.
Yeah , that luck of fruity hogo caught me by surprise. And yes, Really hoping we get an affordable pot still rum from them. It would easily sell
Don't forget the grenadine!
lol yes of course how could i forget!
Very nice video!
Thank you very much!
Nice review. Yea this bottle is too rare and expensive for me.
What do you think of the 15 year old? I feel like it's reviewed less than the other core bottlings. I really love the 12 year old. I think most people do.
I lean in the direction of less aged with Appleton. There's a bit too much oak for my palate. I think I prefer the 8 over the 12 and 15.
@@therumrevivalRR, can you recommend any Trinidad rums that are without additives?
@@BhutWhut That's tough as I'd recommend looking for an independent bottling of trinidad rum but generally I'm not seeing any on the market at this moment. Holmes Cay has some Ten Cane Trinidad rums out that are additive free, but I wasn't in love with it. There are some new Samaroli Trinidad releases but I haven't had them and they are kinda pricey.
@@therumrevival I've had Angostura 1919 but it seemed very sweet and the vanilla was overwhelming. I was just looking for something at the price point of Kaniche (Barbados) but from Trinidad. I know that on the island they have a great variety, but I guess much of it doesn't get exported. At least there are lots of Barbados options here stateside. BTW, we rummies appreciate the great job you're doing with this channel. Keep it up. 👍
@@BhutWhut Yeah I really wish the Angosutra stuff didn't taste so sweet. Having looked into it a bit more, definitely seems like there is a hole in the market for an undosed affordable trinidad rum. Also, thank you for watching and the support!
That price tag is a large call. I could be inclined to spend that amount for the 30-year-old Appleton Estate, but for a 17 year. wow.
Then you definitely don’t want to watch my newest video: $400 for a 5 year rum LOL
I’d be interested to know the rest of your recipe. What orange liqueur and orgeat and how much? I’ve been tweaking my recipe for a year.
This “original” MaiTai makes me think of seeing a film and someone tells me the book was better but I don’t care because I don’t have that point of reference and I really liked the film.
I went with the standard Smuggler's Cove specs. I used Ferrand Dry Curacao (1/2 oz) and Liber & Co (1/2oz)
@@therumrevival
Thank you... My last batch was :
1 Appleton Estate 12
1 Plantation Original Dark
1 Lime Juice
1/4 Grand Marnier
1/4 Clémont Creole Shrubb
1/4 Giffard Orgeat
Dash of Black Walnut Bitters
small Pinch of Salt
My wife just dislikes Pierre Ferrand so that's out and the other two have a nice complexity together.
Giffard Orgeat is very flavorful so a little goes a long way. Liber & Co is good too.
Rumba in Seattle is great. I didn't know you were from the area
I wish I was! Just visited a few times
I remember seeing the label leaks, how did you even get your hands on a bottle???
Appleton sent out a newsletter announcing when it went on sale at Reservebar.com
@@therumrevival Ah, gotcha. So I suppose you got it at MSRP at least!
I’m one that hopes they might bring this blend back again. I understand it isn’t identical and I know it would theoretically devalue people who had already bought theirs now but unlike Appleton 21 and other Foursquare releases that I can’t afford (for now), it seems I may never be able to get hands on this.
Yeah, there was no way I was going to pay more than MSRP. And I'm totally fine with my bottle getting devalued if it means others can enjoy it@@parkeranderson1172
Make sure to float some Rose's grenadine on top of that mai tai!
lol
I have a bottle of AE 21 I spent around 100 bucks on. Honestly, not much difference between it and AE12. I prefer AE8 over both of them.
I agree with you. I lean more towards AE8.
@therumrevival AE8 is the funkiest, it holds up the best in cocktails. Signature is actually great, too. Where AE12 shines is as a bridge to whisky people. It's a fantastic way to introduce jamaican rum to bourbon drinkers.
Im not an experienced taster in general but when I tried it it felt like there was almost a menthol aftertaste. Lile an apricot cough drop
Oh nice, I can totally see that menthol note on the finish
so sick dude
thank you my dude!
One would suspect that the people who made W&N would have some to match the flavor. Three dots and a dash in Chicago has a bottle of W&N and a vintage orange liqueur which they noted was sweeter than current curaçao’s. You can get a mai tai with them for $800. There is an article in food&wine. I’ve had their regular priced mai tai which tries to emulate it and it’s good but I like the ones make at home Bette because they are to my tastes… my wife and friends like it better too.
Wow, that would be cool to try that Three Dots mai tai. Though boy is it expensive. I think you are spot on, the best mai tai is the one that is to your taste.
@@therumrevival Here's the article.
Food&Wine Why Does This Mai Tai From a Famed Chicago Tiki Bar Cost $800?
Would be interesting to see people with access to this trying for mixtures of existing rums to make an attempt at replication. That or even an oak spiral in a cheaper bottle (as I have done with make "Prudent Pappy" bourbon having watched vids on that).
Yeah, seems like folks are trying to reverse engineer it. I might try, but I will say that the combo of jamaican rum and rum agricole doesn't really seem to match AE 17.
"Any press and goodwill that comes out of this release, they'd want to channel that into their actual brand" - ah, but what if they did the release in an extremely annoying way that made a lot of people angry?
True - It'll be interesting to see what, if anything, they do to win those people back
Just seems bizzare spending 5 bones on a bottle to make Mai Tai's with
plenty of other more affordable rums that make equally as good mai tais for sure
$500? Hard pass. Will you review Moint Gay Single Estate?
If I can find it, yes I will
Your Mai Tai would taste better with some Sprite... ;-)
haha, i kinda here for that
Does it make any sense to dillute a 17 year old spirit on a cocktail?!?
For me, it doesn't...
Too bad most of us will never get to buy a bottle or even have a taste. Surely they could have made more……. They know the demand now.
Yeah, here's hoping they make more in the near future.
Then go to Jamaica and get it,probably cheaper..