Mai Tai Showdown Featuring Appleton Estate 17, Wray & Nephew 17 Clone, and Denizen Merchant Reserve
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2023
- Kevin Crossman’s Website: ultimatemaitai.com/
This is it! This is the episode! Today we’re going to make three different mai tais. We’ll be making one with the Appleton Estate 17 year, a blend of rums that supposedly tastes like the original Wray & Nephew 17, and Denizen Merchant Reserve, a widely available rum said to recreate the profile of the 1950s mai tai. Let’s see how close or not so close they all are.
So sit back, relax, and let’s do this.
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2oz (60ml) Jamaican Rum
.5oz (15ml) Orange Liqueur
.5oz (15ml) Orgeat
1oz (30ml) Lime Juice
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@@adrianwahl5107 I had one shot lol
Andy!!! All I got to say is Mai Tai Roa Ae! This video has to be the Mai Tai of all videos! Thank you so much 😊 you absolutely delivered. I appreciate your insight and your deep dive in the flavor, also giving us your thoughts on us poor folks who couldn’t afford a bottle of the 17 year ! 🎉
@@f2343 you’re very welcome
Andy!! All I got to say is Mai Tai Roa Ae! This was the Mai Tai videos of all of you tube!! You definitely delivered!! Thank you for all the research and I appreciate your tasting notes on the 17 year because poor people like me would never be able to afford that. 🎉
You’re welcome. Honestly, quality rum should never be behind a pay wall so I’m glad we can find something that comes close.
So...excellent episode. I actually made the blend and loved it! It really shines in Garret Richards Mai recipe format. I liked it so much ...I now have 3 and a half bottles of it sitting in my closet. Thanks for the work you put in on this!
That’s awesome! Thank you for watching.
Great video, thank you! I'm excited to try this#
You’re welcome. Would love to hear what you think when you do.
Now that was quite intriguing! Awesome comparison between three Mai Tais… and the winner is… the homemade blend ! I for one definitely don’t need to spend $500 on a single bottle when it can be spent more wisely on building up the collection. I think it’s called alcohnomics, you know more rum for the money lol😂. Really digging this series of making blends to capture the flavors of lost rums. Mahalo Andy 🍹.
Thanks so much! This also brings the series to a close, I really enjoyed all the research and experimenting that went into this one.
Quite happy with my Denizen 8 Mai Tai as I watch this.
It is a fantastic mai tai
Great video! I really wish this video had also compared other Mai tai blends/ recommendations.... Ultimate Mai Tai, the Beach um recommended blend.
There was only so much time lol
@@MixingUpTiki I heard that! Maybe a follow up video and look back at these ones? I need to know if it would be worth it to go through the hassle and time of that special ingredient blend, when I can just pull four bottles off my shelf and get an ultimate Mai Tai in my hands in minutes
@@logicalparadox2897 I’ll see what I can do
Really thankful you did this. And happy with the result.
I am too. Honestly I wasn’t sure what was going to happen.
Very nice comparison. I’ve tried a number of rums and blends and my favorite to date is 50/50 Pusser’s gunpowder proof and Appleton 12 year. My orange liquor is 50/50 grand Marnier and Clement creole shrubb.
Yea blending the orange liqueur part is def something more people should be doing.
@@MixingUpTiki
1 Pusser's Gunpowder Proof'
1 Appleton Estate 12
1/4 Gran Marnier
1/4 Clémont Créole Shrubb
3/4 Creme of Coconut (Réal or Coco Lopez)
3/4 Lime Juice
1/4 Giffard Orgeat (It's more intense than most others so it needs less)
Dash of Black Walnut Bitters
5 drops of Saline
@@lrvogt1257 interesting mai tai and painkiller hybrid
@@MixingUpTiki : OMG. haha. The creme of coconut does not belong. I edited it out. I was looking in the wrong column.
Another great video. I am having fun making mai tai rum blends (currently equal parts of Smith & Cross, Appleton 12, Plantation OFTD, and Neisson Reserve Speciale). The nastoyka sounds interesting. I love also using Worthy Park 109 as the sole rum in a mai tai as you did the with Denizen. Thanks for continuing to broaden our horizons and giving us both the ideas, but also the confidence to make these drinks/blends/syrups/etc.
You’re very welcome. And btw your blend sounds wonderful.
I'd never heard of this Wray and Nephew clone before - I am so excited to try and make some of this when I can get my hands on all of those bottles! This is a great video, I appreciated the depth gone into here to give some frame of reference for these rums, very informative!
Thanks, I’m so glad you enjoyed it!
Perfect. So helpful.
Glad you enjoyed it! And thanks for the compliment
Fantastic vid! This is the kind of nerdy rum analysis that I can get behind.
Thanks! Happy to nerd out anytime.
Great informative video!
Thanks so much
Fantastic stuff, I can't wait to try this! I'm lucky, I have access to all the rums/rhums, including the Trois Rivieres. It's always nice to have a project haha. Thanks for the research!
That’s awesome!
You’re welcome.
There may still not be a conclusive decision on which rum to use in the Mai Tai to end all Mai Tais -- but this is most definitely the Mai Tai video to end all Mai Tai videos. 👍
Being fairly new to the whole home bartending game (and planning to leave it at hobby level) I am endlessly fascinated by the whole Mai Tai reconstruction hype rabbit hole thing, and I'm truly happy that there are skilled enthusiasts like yourself to go to this kind of effort.
All that being said, seeing as the original Mai Tai was created using W&N 17 only because of the war, then using W&N 15, what's your take on Appleton 15 as a Mai Tai rum? To a Tiki noob like yours truly it seems like a pretty straightforward choice... 🥂
That’s the thing about the mai tai, any rum can be great, if it’s what you like.
I’m regards to the Appleton 15, it makes a banging mai tai and at a fraction of the cost of the 17.
And thanks for the kind words!
Great video! You definitely need to try the Ultimate Mai Tai. It’s amazing! I don’t know how it compares to any of these because I went straight for the ultimate mai tai and haven’t looked back 😂
Iv tried it. th-cam.com/video/HNGQ77otcOg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=VnI9D0QaGXhPGiPr
I do need to do a side-by-side of the Ultimate and the Clone. Maybe this weekend…. 🤔
at 2:18 you say, "...even using some of its original marks." What does that mean? What is a "mark" and how were they used?
I have a few bottles of the Plantation 17 Year Jamaican from a few years ago. I assume that it’s different than the Appleton or Wray & Nephew 17s, but it does make for a great and interesting Mai Tai.
It’s 100% different but def makes a good mai tai
It's different but also make one of my very very favorite Mai Tais. So wonderfully dry. I like adding in a bit of San Zanj clarin to it.
@@TheMooseOnTheLeft sounds delicious
The Clarendon 17? Yes, that makes a great Mai Tai, like you said, nice dry snappiness.
Great Video! have you thought about adding the nastoyka to the denizen and seeing what that taste like?
I have not but I’m afraid it’s still going to fall a little flat. It’s a two rum blend vs the 6 in Easter’s recipe.
I find that I get more of a bubblegum flavor (or crunchberry flavor) when I put more orange blossom water in the orgeat. I make it with marcona almonds so your mileage may vary.
I have a orange blossom water in this batch of Orgeat.
The banana laffy taffy / bubblegum I was getting from the Appleton 17, I also get when I sip it neat and even on the nose.
@@MixingUpTiki sometimes I double up on orange blossom to get that flavor. Maybe different from the Appleton run flavor, but I literally have a bottle labeled "bubblegum orgeat". I might have put extra rose water in that one too.
how do those three compare to the ultimate mai tai blend with smith&cross, appleton 12YO, plantation OFTD and plantation Xaymaca? :)
I had a Mai Tai tasting evening yesterday and while all different kinds of mai tai's we tried have been 8/10 or above, the ultimate mai tai blend won without question.
we also tried your breakfast mai tai -> it needed a dash of angostura to become more balanced and complex, a solid 9/10.
So glad you liked it.
I haven’t tried the Clone side-by-side with the Ultimate but it is on my list, possibly this weekend.
We got to try the Appleton 17 and really loved it. Now I have made our own clone blend and just made mai tail. We really love the flavor. Going to take the bottle to the Ultimate Mai Tai next weekend to do a side by side comparison. Thank you for sharing this with us!
Is your clone blend the same as the one in my video or a different one that you came up with?
Its the one you make in the video.@@MixingUpTiki
This was fantastic for those of us who can't be bothered to try and find a single ounce of Appleton 17. Thanks!
That was the plan.
You’re welcome.
I’ve had Greg’s book for almost a year (purchased specifically to make his WN17 clone) but never got around to making the nostoika or gathering the bottles (not a big Agricole fan) but started my nostoika maceration today.
Thanks for the video.
Please consider a follow up between WN17 clone, Ultimate MT blend, and WP 109
Iv done the WN17 clone vs UMT. It’s close but the WN17 edged out, most likely due to the nastoyka.
WP109 falls flat compared to the other two. Similarly to how the Denizen 8 did.
It's been over a month since I have had my taste of the 17, straight, not in a Mai Tai. However, I can begin to see where Beachbum got the notes of the Appleton 12/Clement VSOP blend. To get a little more expensive but IMO closer to the 17, Sub Appleton 21 for the 12 with Clement VSOP.
The base of the Clone is 50/50 Rhum JM XO and Smith & Cross and honestly if you didn’t want to go through all the trouble, you could prob just blend those two and get REALLY close.
Smith and Cross is too funky for Appleton. IMO a blend of the Rhum JM XO and the Appleton 21 gets you very close.
@@mmaurice100 sounds great
Wondering how the nastoyka would impact the Denizens Merchant? Would it close the gap some?
Prob a little but pretty sure it would still fall pretty flat.
Re: Banana Laffy-Taffy being "fake" banana - it is my understanding that the bananas we have currently are post-banana blight products. Banana blight killed off the dominant cultivar in the 50's and 60's and left us with what we have today. Apparently "fake" banana flavor replicates the flavor of the pre-blight cultivars. In other words, we onlky think it's "fake" because our modern bananas don't have that smell/flavor, but the older banana varieties did.
You are correct
nice video, I need to try the blend, the only bottle I am missing is the rhum jm XO, do you have a susbitute ? and how does this blend compares to the "ultimate Mai Tai" (Appleton Estate 12/Plantation Xaymaca/S&C/Plantation OFTD) ?
Rhum JM VO will also work but it won’t be as nuanced.
I haven’t compared it side-by-side with the Ultimate Mai Tai yet. I was going to do it in this video but I only had 3 shakers lol
What brand of vanilla bean paste do you recommend?
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How do you spell the name of that rum infusion? (In pre-Castro Cuba, Ron Matusalem was known for infusing its aged rums.)
Nastoyka
Do you work at Wusong Road?
I did, up until about 3 months ago.
Still really good friends with all of them. They’re the ones who hooked me up with the Appleton 17.