Buy once whatever. The point was that on one hand he says you don’t need fancy expensive tools and then immediately grabs an expensive fancy tool to demonstrate that you don’t need expensive fancy tools.
25 hrs? I'm struggling with this one. I've build many chess boards with complicated borders, and I think I average 4 hours per board. This one is a little different, but the cutting of the squares to make the 64 checker board pattern is two glue ups, one rip cut setup, and one cross cut setup at the table saw. Ripping the boards, 10 mins. x 2. Insuring great joints (jointer/planer), 10 mins. x 2. Glue up, 10 mins x 2. That should take you max 1-1.5hr to do this. My complicated borders take 1-2 hrs to mill the wood to thin .03/.06/.125 strips and glue them up to make striped borders cut at 45 at the edges and glue to the checker board pattern. I spend the rest of that 4 hrs. sanding and finishing. Are you including over night cure times for your glue ups? I leave all my glue ups over night but I don't include this in my labor cost because I'm not working physically working on the board.
Shame on you for paying someone a living wage instead of buying it much cheaper from a country that utilizes modern sl@ve labor. How do you sleep at night?
What is something worth? Whatever the person buying, and the person selling think it is worth. May you use the board in good health. I used to dabble, (but never got a ranking). My daughter got slightly more serious. Worked /went to school with some serious players, including a guy (May he RIP) who was a grandmaster
I wanted a combination keyboard and trackball that I could put on my lap to help with my shoulder pain. I couldn't find anything that had a normal size trackball. It was all either tiny useless trackballs or industrial grade trackballs that cost hundreds of dollars. So I decided to build it myself. I designed the circuit board and designed and 3d printed the case. I would only be willing to pay about $75 for something like this pre-made. I spent well over $200 on the parts to build it, and probably a good 120 hours or so in time designing the circuit board, designing the case and then 3d printing it as well. If I were to value my time at just $15 an hour, which is crazy low for a custom build, that would be $2,000. So yea, a $2,000 or $2,500 chess board is completely reasonable. It might have only cost you a tenth of that in parts, but the time you put into build it far outweighs the cost of the materials.
I've been woodworking for 35 years. I've built and sold $30,000 pieces. Theres no way id charge 2500 for a chess board simply because thats not a 2500 dollar job. Time is valuable. But the biggest time factor of this is waiting for the epoxy. That means you work on other projects in the meantime. Not charge the one client for all of that
Hey Mr. Spencley! I have a question about your DeWalt planer. Do you use the stock knives? Or did you replace the knives with an aftermarket tool bit rotor? I ask, because I’m contemplating replacing my rotor, but the aftermarket tool bit rotor is kind of pricey.
Looks good. (And yes, it is a shame you forgot the plastic on one of the epoxy pours.) Just "spit balling" some things though: Ok, the epoxy is a nice idea to also protect the wood/board and keep it looking nice. The TOP surface: Why not use glass? (Float glass - of course) Basically do what you did, but one side don't fret too much. The board is the FINAL SIZE you want. Get some thin-ish float glass the same size. Put the glass on the top side of the board - be it you have it upside down when attaching them together - and you would only need a thin layer of epoxy to attach it Then you are guaranteed a FLAT surface on the top. Ok, it can crash/split/(what ever) but if the person to whom it is given knows this and treats it with respect.... That shouldn't be a problem.
You are making 1 chess board, hence the high sticker price. There are ways to scale up your production and thus cutting costs. Imagine if you took orders for 500 chess boards and could make them together. I'd think you could plan out working on 4 to 5 boards at a time. But figuring out a process for one chess board does take work.
Hey i noticed your Stock Guides on your table saw. I have recently.purchased these. I am wondering if you used the 150lb or 95 lb magnets. As i feel 95 lbs each should be more than enough no? The 150s are 50% higher cost. Would appreciate your input. Thanks! Also that board turned out amazing! I've not yet had the Cahones to try working with epoxy
I'm not at all a fan of chess, but definitely a fan of hand crafted, unique items. This board turned out amazing! IMHO, words to describe the work put in & the end result 》 SPEECHLESS. 💯
I was talking to a guy after golf the other day. We spoke about the upcoming election. RvW being overturned, the trans issue, and the war in Gaza. But then the topic of OGEE profiles came up and it almost came to blows. We we ejected from the bar!
Melamine is relatively expensive at big box stores. I was surprised how much such a utilitarian sheet good costs. I'm not one to cry "safety first" but I have cut thin sheets of plastic on the table saw and it wreaked something awful. I couldn't imagine that epoxy smelling any better. Definitely wear a facemask.
@@CrazyManwich Cheep like a chicken, or cheap as in price? About 3 years ago 3/4" maple plywood was $50, now it's $100. What was melamine then, about 25 bucks?
One could spend 25 hours on a single 1/4"-20x1" hex head machine screw, but at the end of the day, regardless of how perfect your machine screw is, all you have a common item you can purchase for less than 50 cents. Of course, this whole thing is an exercise to generate views and comments...so there's that.
Amazing craftsmanship bro. As all of us woodworkers know, we don't want to work with clients who don't value the handmade and unique products craftsman make. Love your videos
I wasn't sure about that self-leveling epoxy. Sure looked wavy to me. Would have looked killer if he would have buffed it instead of pouring the epoxy over it.
If I heard you right, you said $2000 for something that involved 25 hours of labor. That's less than $100 per hour -- before you deduct for the cost of materials. Let's say $80 an hour. By the time you take into account depreciation on shop tools, miscellaneous supplies, business insurance and other overhead, health insurance, retirement investments, etc., you're really not making enough. I'd try raising prices and see if it scares anyone off. You can always lower the price to get a deal, but there's no reason to start too low.
If you want epoxy, and tips on using it with wood, do blacktail studios epoxy table course. The ins and out of epoxy is way more than molds and air bubbles. That crap gets thermally outrageous and burn yo ass up
Craftsmanship is not appreciated sometimes. As an artist myself, people do not understand the amount of thought and work that goes into these creations. I commend the maker and the client who understands the skill, time, effort that goes into beautiful works like this. I know I have many a time not been satisfied and thrown something out and started over. I do not charge extra for my mistake. If I don't like it, it does not leave my shop. Great job!
everything made sense as a deluxe, luxury chess board until you used adhesive-backed rubber feet. Interesting that you would spend all this time, money and thought and then use something so cheap and temporary as this. Love the piece but the details don't end until everything gets the same level of attention.
I like the way you disrespect your clients...who do they think they are? It's as if they're paying you money for what they want. Some nerve. I'm also impressed with the way you dis a woodworker who owns a track saw AND wastes their cash on a jointer (like me). Morons! Glad we're on the same page here.
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HaHa 2.34 You don't need fancy expensive tools as he reaches into his Festool storage wall 🤣🤣
Buy once and get a lifetime service warranty? Sounds like the cheaper way to do things if you are serious about woodworking
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Buy once whatever. The point was that on one hand he says you don’t need fancy expensive tools and then immediately grabs an expensive fancy tool to demonstrate that you don’t need expensive fancy tools.
Value = willing buyer and willing seller. "Worth it" is not part of the equation.
This dude just said "you dont need big fancy tools" while he shows and pulls out big fancy tools (fastool)
This chess board turned out absolutely stunning 😍
That is a beautiful board... well done, sir...
Nice looking board. Not sure I'd pay $2,500 for it but obviously there are those that would. Keep the good stuff coming.
Is it sarcasm that you said "you don't need expensive tools" just at the moment when you grab the Festool at 2:28
25 hrs? I'm struggling with this one. I've build many chess boards with complicated borders, and I think I average 4 hours per board. This one is a little different, but the cutting of the squares to make the 64 checker board pattern is two glue ups, one rip cut setup, and one cross cut setup at the table saw. Ripping the boards, 10 mins. x 2. Insuring great joints (jointer/planer), 10 mins. x 2. Glue up, 10 mins x 2. That should take you max 1-1.5hr to do this. My complicated borders take 1-2 hrs to mill the wood to thin .03/.06/.125 strips and glue them up to make striped borders cut at 45 at the edges and glue to the checker board pattern. I spend the rest of that 4 hrs. sanding and finishing. Are you including over night cure times for your glue ups? I leave all my glue ups over night but I don't include this in my labor cost because I'm not working physically working on the board.
I am the client who paid $2500. Please send me your hateful comments directly.
Shame on you for paying someone a living wage instead of buying it much cheaper from a country that utilizes modern sl@ve labor. How do you sleep at night?
Grrrr *shakes fist *
Damn that (insert your favorite) music!!
What is something worth? Whatever the person buying, and the person selling think it is worth.
May you use the board in good health. I used to dabble, (but never got a ranking). My daughter got slightly more serious. Worked /went to school with some serious players, including a guy (May he RIP) who was a grandmaster
That is a very nice board.
😍😍😍😍 looks awesome!!!
thanks brother!
I wanted a combination keyboard and trackball that I could put on my lap to help with my shoulder pain. I couldn't find anything that had a normal size trackball. It was all either tiny useless trackballs or industrial grade trackballs that cost hundreds of dollars.
So I decided to build it myself. I designed the circuit board and designed and 3d printed the case. I would only be willing to pay about $75 for something like this pre-made.
I spent well over $200 on the parts to build it, and probably a good 120 hours or so in time designing the circuit board, designing the case and then 3d printing it as well. If I were to value my time at just $15 an hour, which is crazy low for a custom build, that would be $2,000.
So yea, a $2,000 or $2,500 chess board is completely reasonable. It might have only cost you a tenth of that in parts, but the time you put into build it far outweighs the cost of the materials.
I've been woodworking for 35 years. I've built and sold $30,000 pieces. Theres no way id charge 2500 for a chess board simply because thats not a 2500 dollar job. Time is valuable. But the biggest time factor of this is waiting for the epoxy. That means you work on other projects in the meantime. Not charge the one client for all of that
mutual backscratching with another youtuber. not the first time. I unsubbed.
Hey Mr. Spencley! I have a question about your DeWalt planer. Do you use the stock knives? Or did you replace the knives with an aftermarket tool bit rotor? I ask, because I’m contemplating replacing my rotor, but the aftermarket tool bit rotor is kind of pricey.
Looks good.
(And yes, it is a shame you forgot the plastic on one of the epoxy pours.)
Just "spit balling" some things though:
Ok, the epoxy is a nice idea to also protect the wood/board and keep it looking nice.
The TOP surface: Why not use glass? (Float glass - of course)
Basically do what you did, but one side don't fret too much.
The board is the FINAL SIZE you want.
Get some thin-ish float glass the same size.
Put the glass on the top side of the board - be it you have it upside down when attaching them together - and you would only need a thin layer of epoxy to attach it
Then you are guaranteed a FLAT surface on the top.
Ok, it can crash/split/(what ever) but if the person to whom it is given knows this and treats it with respect.... That shouldn't be a problem.
I've never seen someone waist so much time using a planer instead of a table saw. You would never make it in a real shop environment.
You are making 1 chess board, hence the high sticker price. There are ways to scale up your production and thus cutting costs. Imagine if you took orders for 500 chess boards and could make them together. I'd think you could plan out working on 4 to 5 boards at a time.
But figuring out a process for one chess board does take work.
I've been waiting months for this, let's do it!
Beautiful board, worth every penny.
Great video the chessboard turned out great. Thanks for sharing
While melamine might be cheaper than solid wood, it by no means, is inexpensive.
The " no expensive tools " and then a shot of all kinds of festool boxes. Hard to take him serioysly after that
Hey i noticed your Stock Guides on your table saw. I have recently.purchased these. I am wondering if you used the 150lb or 95 lb magnets. As i feel 95 lbs each should be more than enough no? The 150s are 50% higher cost. Would appreciate your input. Thanks! Also that board turned out amazing! I've not yet had the Cahones to try working with epoxy
I’ve never seen a gold top table saw?! Looks so good. What brand is that?
I'm not at all a fan of chess, but definitely a fan of hand crafted, unique items. This board turned out amazing! IMHO, words to describe the work put in & the end result 》 SPEECHLESS. 💯
Nice board! With all the epoxy shavings why don’t you have that fancy Harvey dust collection set up?
I was talking to a guy after golf the other day. We spoke about the upcoming election. RvW being overturned, the trans issue, and the war in Gaza. But then the topic of OGEE profiles came up and it almost came to blows. We we ejected from the bar!
Excellent work as always!!
"You don't need big expensive tools"... as he pulls out his $800 festool tracksaw. 😂😅
Melamine is relatively expensive at big box stores. I was surprised how much such a utilitarian sheet good costs. I'm not one to cry "safety first" but I have cut thin sheets of plastic on the table saw and it wreaked something awful. I couldn't imagine that epoxy smelling any better. Definitely wear a facemask.
$43.00 for a 3/4 4 x 8 sheet is cheep.
@@CrazyManwich Cheep like a chicken, or cheap as in price? About 3 years ago 3/4" maple plywood was $50, now it's $100. What was melamine then, about 25 bucks?
One could spend 25 hours on a single 1/4"-20x1" hex head machine screw, but at the end of the day, regardless of how perfect your machine screw is, all you have a common item you can purchase for less than 50 cents. Of course, this whole thing is an exercise to generate views and comments...so there's that.
that epoxy setup was like step by step what John Malecki does. and also exact same pigment brand and epoxy brand :D
That’s because the Total Boat marketing team is on top of things.
Dumb question. Square size? Looking at it going through the dewalt, not 2.25” tournament size.
New guy here, please excuse my ignorance. What is the name of the pyramid stands in the 20:06 time stamp?
That looks awesome.
Amazing craftsmanship bro. As all of us woodworkers know, we don't want to work with clients who don't value the handmade and unique products craftsman make. Love your videos
That's the ugliest chessboard I've ever seen! Congrats on creating something unique. Hopefully the client's house is just as ugly.
I wasn't sure about that self-leveling epoxy. Sure looked wavy to me. Would have looked killer if he would have buffed it instead of pouring the epoxy over it.
Wow! Just . . . wow!
If I heard you right, you said $2000 for something that involved 25 hours of labor. That's less than $100 per hour -- before you deduct for the cost of materials. Let's say $80 an hour. By the time you take into account depreciation on shop tools, miscellaneous supplies, business insurance and other overhead, health insurance, retirement investments, etc., you're really not making enough. I'd try raising prices and see if it scares anyone off. You can always lower the price to get a deal, but there's no reason to start too low.
In my country,I would not even manage to sell a handmade chess board for US$150, with twice the amount of labour
If you want epoxy, and tips on using it with wood, do blacktail studios epoxy table course. The ins and out of epoxy is way more than molds and air bubbles. That crap gets thermally outrageous and burn yo ass up
I literally subscribed to the channel for this video because i knew you will drop part two , respect 👏
Well done!
Only thing better than Roman Ogee is Roman Ogee on Red Oak.
Can absolutely see why that board sold for $2,500. Well done! It’s a one up unique piece.
Handmade, custom, made to order = $$$$$. Thank you for your time taken to explain this concept.
Craftsmanship is not appreciated sometimes. As an artist myself, people do not understand the amount of thought and work that goes into these creations. I commend the maker and the client who understands the skill, time, effort that goes into beautiful works like this. I know I have many a time not been satisfied and thrown something out and started over. I do not charge extra for my mistake. If I don't like it, it does not leave my shop. Great job!
17:04 and i'm like wait didn't you say earlier in build there's no need for tyvek or tuk tepe maybe its worth the price long term.
AMAZING!!!!!!!!
everything made sense as a deluxe, luxury chess board until you used adhesive-backed rubber feet. Interesting that you would spend all this time, money and thought and then use something so cheap and temporary as this. Love the piece but the details don't end until everything gets the same level of attention.
I like the way you disrespect your clients...who do they think they are? It's as if they're paying you money for what they want. Some nerve. I'm also impressed with the way you dis a woodworker who owns a track saw AND wastes their cash on a jointer (like me). Morons! Glad we're on the same page here.
You don’t have a yard you live in an apartment
awesome
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please wear a mask when cutting epoxy! you are inhaling microplastics!
$2500 ? hahahaha