To very much of the facelift design. Honda Malaysia has not address the biggest elephant in the room. STEERING RACK. i have changed my steering rack on August 2018. yet now it has happen again. I am officially selling off my civic and go for mazda 3 instead
Nah, honda is suck in terms of quality and after sales service. And who cares about over 150hp when the national speed limit is just 110kmh. Lol. Just sad to see people buy car because of horsepower. Dont forget toyota corolla 2.0 hybrid is much faster than honda civic tcp. But its okay if umwt dont want to bring 2.0 hybrid dynamic force engine. Its still reliable than civic euww ckd
Actually this car don't have VTEC. Only VTC. But yes as marketing they market it as VTEC turbo. But inside dont have VTEC. In USA they didn't slap VTEC emblem but here they does.
I'm here to rewatch again. Contemplating to buy this as daily drive, but new civic is just around the corner. Perhaps I should've hold it 1st till launch 😅
Hi Adrian, is the new facelift civic slightly taller than the pre facelift? I got this feeling when i visit honda showroom just now. I try to look back this video at 13:05 and notice the side mirror of the red one is taller than the black one. I might be wrong. Need your clarification, thanks :)
Adrian, for TC and maybe 1.8 prefacelift, the aircond speed dial is on the passenger climate control which is only available in TCP. Right dial for temperature, left dial for speed.
Daaaang you guys in Malaysia got full Spek Civic event come with Honda Sensing and i think it's OEM head unit so jealous actually, here in Indonesia they just sold only RS variant with full SPEK Price but really Poor SPEK event we only got aftermarket head unit, dont have a park sensor (honda Sensing) and my fav featured is Dual Zone climate control, only single Zone seriuosly?? I don't know what Honda Indonesia doing i think is wrong, BTW The civic Hatch in Indonesia more Sold well than a Sedan variant, nice Vids
@@nazhif1 I see. Im more of a city driver. So I don't need all the honda sensing features. Except the AEB. Guess I'll go with TC variant Thanks bro! Have a nice day
if im not mistaken, vtec turbo, turbo on the intake, vtec on the exhaust. so, it's no longer like the original vtec anymore. no more VTEC KICKIN YOOOO... it's like vtec all the time.
Honda's ICE UI sucks. I was close to buying a City Hybrid back in 2017, but the moment I looked at the UI I changed my mind because it looked like a China aftermarket radio. I bought a Renault Fluence instead.
Help me decide pls... TC or TCP.. although its about rm100 diff monthly, it can cover some of the maintenance...booked TC but now racun already for TCP
Oil dilution issue mostly happen in colder climates, Malaysian cars hardly have oil dilution issue. To prevent it, make sure you use the correct engine oil specs and properly warm up the car every drive.
Those typical t brand fan likes to compromised by accepted their bloody old school technology just pay for it la.. Don't simply use Malaysian as your backup idiot
@@yangerek78 Any engine will give you problems if you don't take care of it. Adrian's Civic 1.5T is 4 years old 70,000 km, and Passat 1.8T 5 years old 165,000 km, both still going strong.
2 good things about Honda sensing is the left camera view and two adaptive cruise control during traffic jam. Besides that it’s meh... also a number of the facelift owners have complained about the front sensor, it’s faulty. So it depends on your luck On the car you get
Thank you for the review. I just ordered one after test-driving Civic and Altis on the same day. I read about the Altis TGNA and all that but it just lost to Civic when it comes to emotional appeal. I love your reviews, keep up the great work!
You might get emotional after finding out you will need to visit service centres more often with its service a and b, steering rack issues and fuel pump issues
Still prefer toyota corolla although its slower .I feel comfortable when doing a test drive to compare three of them. It looks more handsome, the looks of civic is ricer type look and its ugly for me. Sorry. the ckd quality of honda is suck. If toyota decided to bring 2.0 hybrid dynamic force engine, then its over for honda civic.
How can apple car play, android auto be factors for buying a car. A car is built by engineering, mechanicals and aerodynamics. The factors for buying a car should be first reliability, quality of materials, driving dynamics, performance, and then design. Civic certainly has those but don't give importance to apple car play and android auto.
Most malaysians would use waze/google maps while driving long distance or even to somewhere they don't know the roads and want to know traffic condition. Instead of having a phone mirrorlink or phone stuck to an aircond vent, apple carplay and android auto helps with this a lot cause you just plug it in and use voice commands. So I think anyone looking at a car above 100K should actually put this in their criteria, in my opinion.
@@leoradzi Your points do not touch on any car engineering aspects. Those cannot be a deal breaker while buying a car. What's wrong if a phone is stuck onto the air con vents....stick it somewhere else on the dash.
I’ve had two civics a civic ext and a civic si. Rattles everywhere and crappy cvt transmission. Got a Mazda 3 instead. Perfect build quality and refinement. In the USA it comes with a larger 2.5 liter 4 cylinder N/A 185hp engine. No turbo lag and no heat soak. Once these 1.5t engines heat up there is massive power loss and turbo lag. Pointless in a warm country like Malaysia
@@WapCar Cool, I still think the best civic is the none turbo one if you must go Honda civic 10th gen. The turbo one is just meh, too many issues and no power up in rev range feels like a diesel engine then once warm and heatsoaked feels like a 1.5 liter engine with 100 hp or less, basically the 1.5t is the same engine as the honda jazz, or fit. That's exactly how it feels like once its warm and heatsoaked, even worse with the CVT transmission too because it's much heavier
@@WapCar hi Adrian. You guys already got few videos on 1.5tc alone. Why u guys not giving review on 1.8 as well? Only Boby and Naz giving this. Free tax extended to June so i believe your review might help others to make a decision. Btw im always enjoy your review, pls help on this request laa 😊
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Jangan gitu bro. Setiap reviewer ada cara dan keunikan tersendiri. Big water bottle test tu signature adrian ni. Tagline pun "all about the details" bro. Just for fun and sesetengah viewer memang hargai value macam ni. Peace
Noisy engine when pushed. Poor plasticky interior build . Too low seating position. That is what I observed when driving one recently . Was a real disappointment as I thought Honda build would have improved . Not so.
Can't argue against you on the engine noise and plasticky interior. But the seats can be adjusted for height to your preferred seating position. Honda's build quality has noticeably improved over the years actually.
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The lower variants doesn't have the fan speed buttons as it has something better, a fan speed knob!
Convenient!
Finally, its here. The most awaited review. Woohoo!!!
Honda Civic for good :)
To very much of the facelift design. Honda Malaysia has not address the biggest elephant in the room.
STEERING RACK. i have changed my steering rack on August 2018. yet now it has happen again.
I am officially selling off my civic and go for mazda 3 instead
Hope you're enjoying your Mazda 3!
@Chien Sean Chee m3 have steering rack issue? Which model?
@Chien Sean Chee oo ok.. Last gen meaning the 1st skyactive gen model?
@Chien Sean Chee yea 2018 and 2019 model ....already recalled
Honda issue whole malaysia know, but other brand issue nobody know, like fuel pump issue
Nice, please also add in comparison for kia k3 cerato too. In future. Thanks. 👍👍
We'll see what we can do!
Very good review 👍🏻
A good review. Wanna ask actually how do you do the number plate of the car as Wapcar
Advertising board suppliers
@@WapCar what i mean is that you cover the numbers plate with the wapcar logo, the jpj and police never give you trouble??
My favourite is the mercedes c300 amg line
If i heard there have Apple CarPlay and Android Auto that car will automatically adds in my favorite list!
c'mon bro, u got both car there....drag race them man! give.it.to.us!!
just a casual question. how much do you step on pedal on acceleration for best fuel efficient? around 2500 rpm?
Different for every car, we'd say about 20% throttle input is good
do a review accord vs camry comparison
We'll see what we can do!
Uncle is the best
The passenger seats are ridiculously low. Wish they had power seats for malaysian market
Yeah, the seats are mounted quite low in the Civic
Review Mazda 2 sedan pliss
We have the hatchback one coming up!
I have to wait 5 years to buy 2nd hand
Would be a bargain!
The only C segment with decent power to move around with full load. Any C segment with less than 150hp is just sad..
I tested both civic tcp and altis 1.8....I immediately chose civic because of the powerful engine....and it's sexy look
@@kingsboy1828 30hp+ different is 1 segment power gap 👍
@@kingsboy1828 sexy look?! If that's the case, most of the cars on the road are also considered sexy looking already
Nah, honda is suck in terms of quality and after sales service. And who cares about over 150hp when the national speed limit is just 110kmh. Lol. Just sad to see people buy car because of horsepower. Dont forget toyota corolla 2.0 hybrid is much faster than honda civic tcp. But its okay if umwt dont want to bring 2.0 hybrid dynamic force engine. Its still reliable than civic euww ckd
@@kingsboy1828 it looks ugly too.
Adrian honda accord plz after this civic
Coming soon!
How u add the turn by turn navigation cluster?
There's a settings menu for the instrument cluster within the infotainment screen
Ur info pop up during video close too fast
Noted on that, we will improve in the next video
What on earth is MICHELAAAN?
French pronouncing. Its a French company.
th-cam.com/video/N1K9RLw8MwA/w-d-xo.html
Build quality eh 😴
Do you have build quality issues with your Honda?
U r one of the best car reviewer.. Very detailed and informative. Keep up the good work
Appreciate the kind words!
Bro, dont forget to use signal when changing lanes
Will do!
Actually this car don't have VTEC. Only VTC. But yes as marketing they market it as VTEC turbo. But inside dont have VTEC. In USA they didn't slap VTEC emblem but here they does.
The big issues for Honda cars is quality....
And customer service.
HRV owners used to claim the suspension or rear axle due to krek krek sound when hitting bump. Common problem
Yes. Although give so many spec also useless. The build quality of the honda is suck.
Toyota can last for many years and really comfort. Honda....after a while then ur cabin is like in a zoo😆, got a lot of mouse
@@yijiajong7331 obviously u did not owned one..
Same as my car bro city feel mehh vios better
WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG TO MAKE THIS VIDEO BRO? * crying * * crying *
Sorry to have kept you waiting! 😁
@@WapCar No problem. Loved it. Keep on the great work.
Buy a turbo vehicle and cruising speed at 80km/h on the the fast lane.
Remember to drive this civic turbo below 3,000rpm.
I'm here to rewatch again. Contemplating to buy this as daily drive, but new civic is just around the corner. Perhaps I should've hold it 1st till launch 😅
H can read customer need & taste more then the others
Wouldn’t low profile tires tend to be more bumpy and stiffer?
@@ianlee3123 They've revised the suspension as well, so it's quite balanced despite the lower profile rubbers
Hi Adrian, is the new facelift civic slightly taller than the pre facelift? I got this feeling when i visit honda showroom just now. I try to look back this video at 13:05 and notice the side mirror of the red one is taller than the black one. I might be wrong. Need your clarification, thanks :)
Adrian, for TC and maybe 1.8 prefacelift, the aircond speed dial is on the passenger climate control which is only available in TCP. Right dial for temperature, left dial for speed.
Thanks for pointing out!
the price for tcp 1.5 currently(discount tax) 134k i think , rougly 136k-137k otr with insurance sir
Yes, but the tax exemption is only until December 2020
Siow liao lah.MRT ok lah
Everyone gangsta until a Bezza overtakes a civic
Then comes the City overtaking the Bezza
Brother just trade in your old civic and get the civic tcp varient
Hahaha!
Very good review based on the specifications and facts 👏
Thanks!
A very good & thorough review on the difference between the cars 👍🏻👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
Daaaang you guys in Malaysia got full Spek Civic event come with Honda Sensing and i think it's OEM head unit so jealous actually, here in Indonesia they just sold only RS variant with full SPEK Price but really Poor SPEK event we only got aftermarket head unit, dont have a park sensor (honda Sensing) and my fav featured is Dual Zone climate control, only single Zone seriuosly?? I don't know what Honda Indonesia doing i think is wrong, BTW The civic Hatch in Indonesia more Sold well than a Sedan variant, nice Vids
the physical button tactile feel on the head unit feels really cheap. same with the volume button on the steering wheel
Feels hard to press, but it's alright
Why isn’t there a review for the new 2022 civic ! Want to know if you feel it’s worth it to get a 2022 V spec, go for a 2020 TCP
How about the TC variant? I'm more interested for TC instead.
Facelift TC is basically the same as the prefacelift TCP excluding the dual zone aircond
@@nazhif1 I see. Im more of a city driver. So I don't need all the honda sensing features. Except the AEB. Guess I'll go with TC variant
Thanks bro! Have a nice day
Equally as good. Rides on smaller 17-inch wheels, same turbo engine, and similar interior features. Good choice!
if im not mistaken, vtec turbo, turbo on the intake, vtec on the exhaust. so, it's no longer like the original vtec anymore. no more VTEC KICKIN YOOOO... it's like vtec all the time.
How about ride and handling? Which is better? Mazda or Toyota?
Watch to find out!
Mazda 3 - th-cam.com/video/-lyVxQelUnU/w-d-xo.html
Corolla Altis - th-cam.com/video/Rd-vEsM1GYc/w-d-xo.html
4 mazda/toyota fanboys butthurt and unlike the video...
Haha, for rich Mazda owners, we don't even bother looking at other Japanese brands :)
😂
Wouldn’t lower profile tires mean a stiffer and thus bumpier ride?
They've also revised the suspension so it rides better than the pre-facelift. 😄
Malaysian infotainment system really need an update of the UI... I mean come on... its 2020 but the UI still stuck in 2000 era design...
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even corolla 1.8 and mazda 3 2.0 can't even compare to 1.5 turbo ? serious ?
I don't like the rear spoiler too. Plan to change to SI type or modulo once I get the car next month. Pray for it.. 😂
Honda's ICE UI sucks. I was close to buying a City Hybrid back in 2017, but the moment I looked at the UI I changed my mind because it looked like a China aftermarket radio.
I bought a Renault Fluence instead.
The Civic's head unit is much better than the City. The Fluence is a great choice too!
Hi, why Malaysia Honda cars doesn’t have sunroof?
This guy looks like a secondary skool student.Got driving license or not?
Mazda 3 Hatchback or Honda Civic? 🤔
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There’s something wrong with the colours but otherwise a great review 👍
6.42, huawei ringtone
😂👍
bro can u recommend where to do the grill wrapping
Outdated Android version on the Headunit. 7 years old version on a 2020 new car. *Facepalm*
Still working well
Good review dude hope to see u do a review with the new accord!
Thanks! We'll see what we can do
But the Passat can always tapau them
Whats the price of a Passat friend lol
A lot more expensive too haha
Do for the new accord also...
We'll see what we can do!
Help me decide pls... TC or TCP.. although its about rm100 diff monthly, it can cover some of the maintenance...booked TC but now racun already for TCP
TC-P although only RM 100 difference, the maintenance cost for tyre and petrol will be higher than TC because 18-inch vs 17-inch
@@WapCar Thanks. already decided to change the booking to TCP. thanks for the racun hahaha
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No…no for CVT…
👀
Nice review, thanks
Do you have all rounder SUV since civic is all rounder car.? Thanks
Good idea!
Try an optima gt and you'll be smelling exhaust
True, but the Optima GT also drinks fuel like nobody's business
What colour is better the white or the black?
We think the Orchid White Pearl looks better, contrasts nicely against the black grille 😃
hi ~ can i ask does it suffers from oil dilution issue? whats ur view on it as well. And how do u maintain n prevent. thanks 😊
Oil dilution issue mostly happen in colder climates, Malaysian cars hardly have oil dilution issue. To prevent it, make sure you use the correct engine oil specs and properly warm up the car every drive.
@@WapCar which engine oil do you use and recommend for civic. thanks 😊
@@kyledylandy5289 Adrian's Civic is fed with fully-synthetic 0W-20 at the service centre 😃
Does it still suffer from oil dilution issue?
Not in Malaysia, the oil dilution issue is prevalent in countries with cold climate 😃
Thks Adrian for the review
People that hating this cars are either can’t afford one or have made wrong decision of buying other kind of car
Agreed with you
That people buy for other brand that is not typical malaysian always buy. Kah..
Those typical t brand fan likes to compromised by accepted their bloody old school technology just pay for it la.. Don't simply use Malaysian as your backup idiot
Haters gonna hate 💃
You can't stop people from hating....this is a free country...
Can easily put bigger turbo and make more boost = more power the wheel and roadtax is soo cheap to.. Just like Kelisa
That's what lalas and ricers do
@@Yddp3307 wrong, thats what a real enthusiast do
@@Yddp3307 Can you define ricer?
The stock car is already prone to heat soak. Might want to think twice before doing so. Or just put an oil cooler
@@Yddp3307 bodoh ricer means modify without performance gain. Tuner means modifying with performance upgrade. Did you mum send you to school bodoh?
good review!i
Nice review, curious why malaysian market dont get the hatch version ?
Becoz malaysian dont buy hatch.
Yeah and only hatchback is the type r
MY does not prefer hot hatch c segment...
www.wapcar.my/news/here%E2%80%99s-why-you-can%E2%80%99t-buy-a-honda-civic-hatchback-in-malaysia-1826
Do a Kia Cerato GT line!
Hopefully we'll be able to arrange!
Look out for the steering rack n fuel pump issue
Changed both for my 1.8 model, luckily still under warranty, steering costs RM7000+ if no warranty.
Tq Andrian
Ckd 💩
🤔
Another 5 star review. Keep it up
Thank you!
Neh ugly as hell anyway 1.5 turbo till how long will it lasts before it give u headache
butthurt ohhh...
Yeah ugly
Stick forever with your NA engine then and miss the fun of turbo engine
@@kodokojol will at least i dont have to deal wuth any lags
@@yangerek78 Any engine will give you problems if you don't take care of it. Adrian's Civic 1.5T is 4 years old 70,000 km, and Passat 1.8T 5 years old 165,000 km, both still going strong.
2 good things about Honda sensing is the left camera view and two adaptive cruise control during traffic jam. Besides that it’s meh... also a number of the facelift owners have complained about the front sensor, it’s faulty. So it depends on your luck On the car you get
Yes, the Lane Watch camera and Low-Speed Follow are great to have features.
they got rid of the extremely uncomfortable headrests.
Thank you for the review. I just ordered one after test-driving Civic and Altis on the same day. I read about the Altis TGNA and all that but it just lost to Civic when it comes to emotional appeal. I love your reviews, keep up the great work!
You might get emotional after finding out you will need to visit service centres more often with its service a and b, steering rack issues and fuel pump issues
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Still prefer toyota corolla although its slower .I feel comfortable when doing a test drive to compare three of them. It looks more handsome, the looks of civic is ricer type look and its ugly for me. Sorry. the ckd quality of honda is suck. If toyota decided to bring 2.0 hybrid dynamic force engine, then its over for honda civic.
Couldnt stand the touch screen of fhe corolla.. Fugly huge bezel... Interior of the corolla looks cheap
Corolla is very comfy! Have you checked out our review of the Corolla? th-cam.com/video/Rd-vEsM1GYc/w-d-xo.html
Macam budak2 sekolah bawak kereta ni....
How can apple car play, android auto be factors for buying a car. A car is built by engineering, mechanicals and aerodynamics. The factors for buying a car should be first reliability, quality of materials, driving dynamics, performance, and then design. Civic certainly has those but don't give importance to apple car play and android auto.
Yea, those people who base their buying decision on an infotainment system definitely need an IQ check
This is the new norm
Most malaysians would use waze/google maps while driving long distance or even to somewhere they don't know the roads and want to know traffic condition. Instead of having a phone mirrorlink or phone stuck to an aircond vent, apple carplay and android auto helps with this a lot cause you just plug it in and use voice commands.
So I think anyone looking at a car above 100K should actually put this in their criteria, in my opinion.
@@eddyloh5888 Even if the car flies what ever points I mentioned come into the picture.
@@leoradzi Your points do not touch on any car engineering aspects. Those cannot be a deal breaker while buying a car. What's wrong if a phone is stuck onto the air con vents....stick it somewhere else on the dash.
I’ve had two civics a civic ext and a civic si. Rattles everywhere and crappy cvt transmission. Got a Mazda 3 instead. Perfect build quality and refinement. In the USA it comes with a larger 2.5 liter 4 cylinder N/A 185hp engine. No turbo lag and no heat soak. Once these 1.5t engines heat up there is massive power loss and turbo lag. Pointless in a warm country like Malaysia
We'll be addressing the heat soak issue in the next video 😀
@@WapCar Cool, I still think the best civic is the none turbo one if you must go Honda civic 10th gen. The turbo one is just meh, too many issues and no power up in rev range feels like a diesel engine then once warm and heatsoaked feels like a 1.5 liter engine with 100 hp or less, basically the 1.5t is the same engine as the honda jazz, or fit. That's exactly how it feels like once its warm and heatsoaked, even worse with the CVT transmission too because it's much heavier
Nice review. Please do another vid for the 1.8 variant. 😁
Not as powerful as 1.0 turbo in any way shape or form
Thanks! We would love to try the 1.8L variant too!
@@NNfullsend Turbo engines have an advantage at low to mid-range. But the 1.8L 4-cylinder is more refined compared to the 1.0T 3-cylinder
@@WapCar hi Adrian. You guys already got few videos on 1.5tc alone. Why u guys not giving review on 1.8 as well? Only Boby and Naz giving this. Free tax extended to June so i believe your review might help others to make a decision. Btw im always enjoy your review, pls help on this request laa 😊
Apek,klau review jgn la ikut tekak sendiri,yg laen OK,tp bab botol besar tu memang x masuk akal,mne ade org sumbat botol bsar kt tmpat cup/bottle holder,org klau g kdai mmg beli yg kecik je utk ltak dlm keta,xde nye nk beli botol bsar...merapu
Jangan gitu bro. Setiap reviewer ada cara dan keunikan tersendiri. Big water bottle test tu signature adrian ni. Tagline pun "all about the details" bro. Just for fun and sesetengah viewer memang hargai value macam ni. Peace
Sebagai point of reference untuk viewer berapa besar holder itu. Kalau bottle kecil, semua kereta mesti muat, so kami mengguna big bottle test.
Noisy engine when pushed. Poor plasticky interior build . Too low seating position. That is what I observed when driving one recently . Was a real disappointment as I thought Honda build would have improved . Not so.
Can't argue against you on the engine noise and plasticky interior. But the seats can be adjusted for height to your preferred seating position. Honda's build quality has noticeably improved over the years actually.
Wow...full of praises...no wonder out of stock
😂