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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2023
- A look at two new very niche bike products we are helping make happen.
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I don't use a dropper, but more silver components is always good.
YES to those inner bar ends. Another use case for that hinge (and the one I care most about) is to allow it to be used on a handlebar like an Albatross where the more aggressive bend in the bar means using a regular bar end is a no-go.
I love the idea of the dropper. Having setback with a brooks is always needed. Maybe you’ll start a revolution of mechanical spring actuated droppers! I hope that they can be highly serviceable. If that’s the case, I’ll buy one tomorrow.
I like the dropper idea. All my gravel-ish bikes are 27.2 and would like to set up one with a dropper. Silver is always welcome....I get tired of black components, silver much more classy
Similar to the old Gravity Dropper, but in silver. Nice. I’ve arrived at a point where every bike I own should have a dropper post
I've been searching for clamp-on bar ends forever! I have the Uno bar end shifter already and the Uno thumb shifter arriving soon. Keep the thoughtful products coming!
Both products are very cool. Now that I’m a rolling relic, I could find use for the bar end thingies to add positions to flat bars that I might use on dirt roads er gravel. I wouldn’t descend hills steep enough, often enough on my 27.2 bikes but love the idea (silver & spring). I have a Joplin 4 on my mtb that requires factory service!
A silver 27.2 dropper has been on my wishlist for a couple of years, so long as the price is competitive. I've de-anodized and polished a few parts on my gravel bike, including my T8000 pedals, RedShift stem, and even disc brake adapters. I'm pleased with how they worked out, though time will tell how long the shine will last.
I'll keep an eye on this space.
Glad to hear progress being made on an all silver dropper. somas last attempt at a spring dropper used a cyclinder to set in two cut out on the stanchion. Only took a few quick minutes for mud to get all inside and it was done. This looks like a better implementation of the idea. Also double love the setback, havent had that on a dropper since old specialized droppers.
Yes to the dropper - as silver, and as short, as you can make it!
Yes to the bar ends!
Such a great idea!
And I like the idea of the dropper.
I don’t have any bikes with silver components at the moment but there should be an option!
I’m not loving the indexed part of the dropper.
It would be cool if there was indents the whole way up so you can stop it anywhere.
Also I’m sure it would be too much to make. But there should be different lengths available
I don't care about the color, but a reliable coil dropper would interest me. I've always wanted a dropper for long distance bikepacking/touring, but having wrecked 3 droppers on my MTB so far, I'm just not willing to rely on in a very remote location.
I very much like the shifter and especially the bar end extension. These really address issues for me.
Thank you for the bar ends with a clamp!!! I am always so happy to see clamp hardware for handlebar accessories. Also always happy to see silver parts, there are so few options for silver theae days.
Spirgrips is another company that sells inner bar "ends". Their products have a hinged clamp and are ergonomic in shape rather than just tubular. Some models even have inserts to absorb shock and vibration. Took a chance a few years back and bought them for my flatbar bike. I've used them ever since. Your idea of interchangeable and custom-adjustable grips is very intriguing.
I had a specialized command post circa 2010 that had preset slots like you are describing and I think it is a superior design because you know exactly what you are getting when you adjust your post instead of readjusting.
One thing I liked in particular is the middle adjustment was about 80% upwards through the travel which gives pedaling efficiency and just enough clearance, whereas 50% may have not done either well enough.
This might not apply well to the small travel amounts on a gravel dropper but thought I should mention it.
Yes to both of those products please. I would 100% buy both of those.
I love the inner bar end ideas - might buy one of those to solve a few issues with my fatbike in winter!
I was thinking the exact same thing for my fat bike
Definitely like both ideas. More silver
I'll use the handlebar clamp on my road bike as a modern day Spinachi !
I would def pick up one of the droppers! Perfect use of a coil!!
That first one looks fantastic - I put some new bars on my MTB today, in place of a bar that had a "loop" on the front. I'm really missing the loop already, and was planning to go looking for some bar ends. Will now wait for yours to launch though, being able to add/remove them for different kinds of rides/tours would be ideal.
The dropper looks interesting, but all my modern bikes have black kit on them, so that would rule me out (at least for the foreseeable).
The part that the dropper would be outfitted with a spring and be more reliable is an amazing idea, I would start to make them also in 31.6 and in black. And a titanium spring for the wieght weenies 😉
That bar extension could also be used for putting rohloff twist shifter on stuff
This is super cool. You could use an internal expanding collet system for infinite height adjustment, and the tension on the spring would keep the post in place.
While it's not silver, i think you should just do raw suspension anodizing on the stanchion. Think that pale grey or gold on old Fox or Marzocchi forks. It's all mostly that black anodizing treatment these days, but the color reduces the durability, and increases friction, compared to that colorless or raw surface treatment.
Also, a kit to do external cable actuation instead of the lever would be extremely excellent.
This is all amazing! I hope all your ideas will happen. Thanks Russ 🙏
Love the Alt Bar connectors
I'd like a silver cable actuated dropper, but any silver dropper would be nice. Good idea thinking of low height dropper settings. I too have short legs with a tall seat tube
You had me at setback. Please make it in black too! I’d like the option for the stop changes and alternate lever over the original.
I use a gravity dropper super simple coil spring dropper post. Similar concept. Just 3 settings. I love, love, love it for gravel. Don’t care about color. I’d rather have discrete settings than continuous (which I have on my MTB).
Oooo a silver dropper. Yes! I customised my gravel bike’s dropper to silver..which I admit is a big step for purely aesthetic reasons, yet it is nuts that this is not a ‘thing’ on the market..so go for it.
Ha, just recently had the idea of putting my old bar ends on my ritchey comp kyote because I thought it might work. It did and is awesome, but I actually first put them on the wrong way around and so had to un- and reinstall my components twice.
Your version seems like a cool option.
I’d buy the hinged bar end extensions!
Big yes on the dropper!
I would be interested in your coil spring dropper post in 27.2. I like the possibility of using it on my collection of older steel frame MTB frames. LOVE the low maint coil and the reasonable setback. I like the silver color option, too
The more I think about it, a 20mm dropper post would be kind of useful. I like to string long rides together with short sections of singletrack/trails on my road bike. I often walk the trails but I can imagine that some of them will be just barely rideable with a little bit more taint clearance. That said, I would absolutely never pay for an extra complex heavy seatpost on my bike, which I work hard to keep reliable and lightweight.
I would absolutely use that dropper. I have 2 modern retro styled road bikes From State bicycles that run a 27.2 seatpost and anything but silver components don't look right, so I'd buy at LEAST 1 for each bike.
Id also definitely go for those bar ends on my mountain touring rigs, especially on my fat bike. Those would open up SOOOO many options ive been wanting for AGES.
I totally like the plated dropper concept, looks perfect for gravel/adventure and yes, plated everything for me but maybe that's because we had it that way with BMX components out of the gate. And as far as bar ends, I'm still wondering why real bar ends at the end of bars fell out of favor. Short, straight ends set parallel to the ground replicate road bar hoods and I still like them.
Niiiiice, both these products belong on the market, they're oddball but definitely fill a niche that I think consumers want! Good job
I love the hinged clamp extension, a loop bar might be good. Not Sure about a silver dropper, pretty but how many aesthetes are really ready to pay for it?
I still have an original X-fusion Hilo, 27.2 with the option of an under saddle lever or a bar lever, still working well over a decade after I got it (had two new seal kits in that time though). I think a rebuildable, user serviceable dropper would be a big selling point, too many of the modern ones are throwaway components (a hard to obtain sealed gas strut in a tube basically)...
yes yes yes! dropper with setback! Silver! and inner bar ends with a clamp! Take my money, all of it!
The bar ends are a winner. The ability to swap from bike to bike and include drops is a clincher. Never used a dropper but 27.2 droppers are the only dropper I’ve ever googled.
I still occasionally use my old specialized indexed dropper, I still find it worth it as a full dropper but I felt that the middle position was never really useful.
Russ these are great ideas. I'm sold on the easy on/off mid bar ends. The silver dropper ought to be easy, why hasn't that happened already. The stepped rise in it is a great idea.
I would love a simple silver dropper post if it is long enough (like 400mm) for my 27.2 ti fat bike. Also, as long as it would work in cold temperatures. If it meets that, i am a customer for sure. I would even take it in black.
I’m in for the alt bar adapters. Probably x2
Both products look awesome I would definitely buy the bar end adapter
Love the first prototype. I'll be going to the website and getting a couple of them.
The second prototype. If I could make a suggestion, it would be to change the trigger from an "I" shape to an "L" shape.
Alt bars look cool. Niche for sure but yeah, looks good. Keep the clamp portion as low profile as you can.
Since you are coming this side of the pond will you be shipping merch from Europe soon? Keeping my eye out for a cap! All the best, love what you do and thrilled you are heading to Europe.
Go on both products. Agree on having the dropper shorter
Definitely interested in a silver dropper. Big factors that I would consider in regards to purchasing would be weight and price.
Definitely interested in the silver post. Use a PNW Components one now, which clashes with my otherwise all silver build...
Both products look excellent.
You should really try to get the inner bar end angle of extension to be adjustable. It will make it much more versatile.
Inner bar end clamps are especially clever. Good call on shims too. I heard aluminum, but I didn't catch what finish they'd be available in. Silver🤞
A simplified dropper in that diameter sounds like a winner. Silver will be welcomed by some. Most importantly to me would be the lever being designed so it is difficult to actuate accidentally.
I think the dropper post is a good idea, I like the quirky products idea as a collaborative business!
A polished silver dropper post is so awesome, I would love to see that!!!!
That dropper could be a great option. I am indifferent to it being silver or not, but love the prospect of having a 27.2 dropper thay would work those having 3-4" of exposed seatpost.
I'm into the bar end/alt bar part. There is a real possibility I would be interested in the shifter on a future build.
Yes to a silver (and black) dropper!
Yes to the bar ends. Getting these will get be back to flatbars, which means lower cost in bikes upfront and more to support people like yall
Re the dropper - 2 positions would be fine. 4 positions sounds ideal to me. I like the idea of springs too -- MUCH easier to maintain. Cheers
A polished dropper is the kind of component that I would build a whole bike around
High time you did! Gotta work on reducing dropper stack hight though
Yes! You read my mind, now give us a silver dropper! The thing thats missing from Ritcheys classics lineup
I just swapped my nice silver seat post on my own Sklar for a KS dropper…in black. I love having a dropper post but i was definitely bummed to lose another nice silver part. I would absolutely love a silver dropper for that bike! Make it!!
Gib 27.2 silver seat actuated dropper, ticks all of the boxes I didn't think would ever be ticked
Great products. The D-post sounds great! Silver is and always has been better than black !
Would love one of those seat posts in any colour
Both great ideas! Please offer the dropper in both silver and black. I have 2 bikes and one has sliver parts and the other black. I will buy one of each 😄
Yes to inner band end with the clip.
Like the low maintenance aspect to it. I would have one in black as well as silver.
Love both of these
My dropper post is either all the way down or all the way up. Also it should be in oil slick. Because everything else is
I like the idea of a silver dropper post, especially for a retro build where most of the components on older bikes are silver.
I can see how the handlebar extender thingy will be useful. I'd love to experiment with handlebars more easily. I've never tried a dropper post, and Francis Cade claims they're overrated, though obviously there is a variety of opinions about them.
All components should be made in at least black and silver! Both products seem like good ideas and fill a niche but not so narrow it wouldn’t be profitable. I really like the self contained lever actuated seat post, no extra cables or controls, provides convenience for a multitude of uses and keeps cost down.
The silver dropper is interesting. I recently bought a dropper and didn’t like the fact that it had to be black. Silver components are awesome because they have a retro look so making a modern tech item in silver seems like a good idea. I got a Coast suspension dropper BTW - I like the ability to drop the seat but absorbing big shocks was also wanted.
How long have you had the Coast and how has it held up? Is the saddle clamp easy to adjust accurately? Have you had to do anything to it besides adding air. I dig suspension posts due to back issues. A dropper would be nice, but I've ridden well without one for about 50 years.
I use a dropper and use it only at 0 or 100%, never had the inclination to stop it midway. If it was just all the way up or down I'd be happier, especially if its lever controlled at the saddle, I could find the stutter annoying at best, dangerous at worst. Spring instead of gas and oil, now that is genius simple and gets my vote!! Silver, interesting for the retro look but price is the ultimate hurdle.
I'd absolutely buy the first product. I would add it on my touring bike. The dropper post - I have no use for.
The dropper seems amazing but is there also one for 25.4mm seatpost diameter?
Yes, to the 4 position silver dropper👍
Rather than even spacing between the stops on the dropper, the first stop should be 15 to 20 mm below full height. This is for surfaces too rough or changeable to be comfortable at full height, but where plenty of pedaling is still required. My hydraulic droppers spend plenty of time in this range on rough surfaces, undulations and even technical climbs where getting a foot down is more important than getting power down most efficiently. Just about any steel hardtail frames more than 10 years old runs a 27.2 post too, so it's not just for gravel bikes.
I will 100% be buying at least one, probably several of those droppers if they make it to production
At a decent price, I would certainly like the clamp on handlebar mount for bar ends. Have you designed the actual ends for these yet?
Another vote for silver...
But i want one thats also a suspension post!....im 53 and have back issues, not as mobile as i once was, so a dropper with enough drop to get on and off the bike easily AND have some suspension to relieve my knackered back (for a tourer/randonneur) would be very appreciated
The dropper is definately appealing … working in the bike industry I have spoken to a lot of customers who wanted a dropper not for Mountainbiking but rather for the ease of jumping on the bike and for waiting on traffic lights 😂
Not sure about the inner bar ends - had SQ Labs at some point in the past - didnt worked for me🤷
I would buy the extension mounts if they were just for the narrower main part of mtb handlebars (22.2?) but with the shims it's gonna be too chonky to do a continuous bar tape wrap.
I already use some vintage bar ends that have a plug type extension that have quite thin clamps (but no hinge) on one set of bars but I would like to put some short extensions on my jones loop bars so a hinge is required.
I think the best thin clamp design would be the old steel band & tension plate you get on road levers & old suntour friction shifters, you could have different steel bands for different bar diameters, though I don't know why anyone would ever put extensions near the bar clamp area.
Yess to both!
I've been waiting for 27.2 seat actuated dropper that's low maintenance. Silver is a bonus
I like the dropper post, especially the silver option. I'm tired of black, black and black components only.
I would be very interested in a 27.2 silver dropper post. I'm not putting a dropper post on my bike specifically because they're all black.
I’m building a vintage ebike i plan on sharing. A silver under seat actuated dropper post is exactly what i’m looking for
I would buy the dropper. I am a mechanic in San Francisco and Jim is an old friend. I am always happy to support Merry Sales. 🤘❤️🤘
Inner bar ends , I just purchased an accessory holder that uses two clamps for attachment to the bar without HB removal. I am modifying to make a grip a couple inches above the bar. Too bad your product concept wasn't available. Let me suggest that you try to accommodate some odd bar shapes that are present in carbon right after the stem junction. They are not always perfectly round as the emerge from the stem clamp as the morph into the bar shape.
a silver 27.2 dropper w/ setback would be the DREAM
all silver dropper ALL THE WAY! Honestly you should look into anno colors too.
The clamping bar end seems a practical update of a 90s MTB staple!
The dropper sounds ideal for a gravel bike. Silver wouldn't suit the style of my bike, but I'd be interested in the dropper in black. Could you get it made in black as well as silver?
I'd be interested in a silver dropper for my retro-ish Surly Midnight Special, but I only have about 5 inches of exposed seat post so it wouldn't be that useful sadly