Armed Civilians? Security Guards holding an area and screaming if a bad guy runs by or they hold the exit door so you can tell Civs to run to them for extract, or even a Security guard tapping in if you lose an officer, they become a third unit you can control but they can only provide cover?
I was thinking maybe even you enter a room and the civilian runs over to the gunman and starts wrestling them and you have to take a careful shot and if you dont help them in time they die idk there are so many scenarios.
That plus the screams and the haunting gun fire.. yeah, audio designer did an exceptional job of making it difficult not to just try to action man into danger. Very well done.
@@ScreechingPossum just thinking of those cowards makes my blood boil. I say this knowing full well the harsh realities of responding to any high intensity situation involving armed assailants and massive amounts of civilians.
I enjoyed this video. As a retired patrol LEO, in my 30 year career, I've participated in large building clearings and also taught them as a firearms instructor at my agency. Moving to the sound of the shots is key, even if some areas need to be bypassed. With multiple suspects, though, it makes the decisions harder. This would also be cool to run through with one other player as your partner, as if you were the first unit on scene and made entry before SWAT was activated. Nice job.
'Rush to your death' (A 'mental model' I've heard used to describe the self-sacrificial, extremely high risk type of dynamics required to combat an active shooter, where being cautious sacrifices too much time).
Yeah I guess since there's been around 400 school shootings since Columbine people are more used to it. Valley of the Dolls is more interesting due to the real life inspiration behind it and simply because most people hold child abuse as more disturbing than murder.
valley of dolls is the sickest mission in my opinion. The moment you go down into the basement and see those barrels...i had to pause the game to take a break.
Suspect AI is still a bit janky and overtuned. their morale is apparently bugged to where things like blowing up doors and killing/arresting other suspects raises their morale instead of lowering it.
A pistol is basically a bb gun if someone is wearing rifle grade armor. They will barely feel being hit. So you need to shoot extremities or hands which is kind of hard to do when you are being shot at close range from an AK Any cop in the US today will have their AR15 variant in the squad car with a few mags
I have a guess why they put so few npc's (civilians) on this map, but that makes it kinda feel empty. But sure, they didnt want to have the mass killings in a level like this like at the airport mission in (i believe) CoD or the Hitman 2/3 maps😅. All in all but an great game
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The only problem I have with this game is that gunfire doesn’t have a realistic noise propagation; the noise it emits when firing might be realistic but the way you hear it 10 meters away isn’t (e.g : 4:16 - the shotgun sounds like it’s 3 closed rooms away)
@@nathanmitchell7961 Its definitely not a skill issue when the Ai can clearly kill you in ways you cant defend against. Go on the "thank you come again" level and stand in front of any of the windows and try to shoot the AI while they shoot back. They get to kill you and you can't hit them at all.
This can be the case but in other instances even the AI being this borked can still be overcomes with the right tactics, deployables and and skill. People are trying to blame every facet of their experience on AI when they play a role in their success whether they ignore it or not. @@aerball
What do you mean? It's just buckshot. It has no penetration and is easily absorbed by body armour, metal surfaces and is unreliable at longer ranges. Are you disabled?
I'm struggling with FPS, I sit roughly at 40-50 fps and often drops to 15fps at times (basically unplayable). Does anyone know what fps I should be expecting with my set up? My current setup is: - Intel® CoreTM i9 12 Core Processor i9-10920X - 8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 Ti - 64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz - 4TB CORSAIR MP600 PRO SSD
How are people able to play these maps? Is it just because they've played through all the others in the past? I'm stuck on the 3rd level but I keep wanting to try new ones. Also, how do you go solo? Sometimes the commander roll is great and sometimes the AI is what gets me killed lol
The game doesn't have alternate modes on each map anymore, and for some stupid reason (wah story/narrative dissonance reasons) they made this map a simple bomb threat map.
There's problems with the map. Even when rushing through without giving the team orders I can't explore the whole map. I have to hope I just get lucky with the bombs. The breifing makes no mention of the bombs. When disarming a bomb the player address TOC but then says nothing. Breaking immersion. The breifing states there's a active shooting situation. But makes no mention of the bombs until the last minute. At least of the 13th december release of the game. 10 mins is too short for a big map like this. SWAT 4 gets away with such a timer because the maps are designed so the player comes across all the side areas easily. This map isn't designed like that. Even when skipping even going outside I blow up before searching every location. In the privious map (the valley of dolls or whatever it's called) it's a hard map but the player thinks and changes tactics. In this map it's a matter of "getting lucky" with finding the second bomb. The map could be more engaging, but there has to be some changes to get the player more engaged. As it stands if I so much as tell my AI team to do anything I don't have enough time to cover the map. Every time the player fails there's also two loading screens and having to walk to redo the mission. Which makes the map even more frustrating to play. At least in the valley of dolls map I knew I was losing because of bad tactics on my part. This map is just blind dumb luck.
The map like the rest of them is realistic. They are school shooters and there wont be loads of them. No indication of bombs? Obviously. How would the lspd actually know there are bombs at all. The only indication it the 911 call of a shooting. Thats what theyre going off. Aswell why would theyre be any reason for them to know where said bombs are either again the shooters are placing them. How are we gonna know where they are. Ive cleared the building fast and smooth and find the bombs everytime simply because im clearing all the rooms etc. 10 mins is too short? Well school shooting raids tend to be short. You must act quickly or everyones gonna die theres no time to be perfect and safe. Risk taking is required in these situations. Complaining about map design doesnt make sense. The map is aiming to look like the science block of a college not square rooms for you to perfectly clear with ease. Realism is the key factor in all of this and its the key note this game strives to complete. The ai thing is a little tricky i agree but in all honesty there is only so much ai will be able to do for this game. At the same time i simply find that getting my men to “fall in” and me go first works best. Maybe send a group to breach a room besides down the corridor whilst i do something else too works. It comes down to knowing what to do in this situation. The load times and not correct voice line bugs are bugs and can hopefully be fixed. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but to me it just sounds like you maybe dont enjoy the realism as much? Correct me if im wrong.
I think adding pvp in this game would be something that would keep me playing this, otherwise missions can be pretty much easy for me as a veteran fps players (even dough enemies are good designed). Pvp would increase dopamine levels and increase/keep playerbase.
I think it is very dynamic and no 2 play thrus of the map are the same but I agree it gets easier and a little monotonous if we only get the same missions but I appreciate the ability to mod in maps
Worst school layout I have ever seen. Also very frustrating, that the suspect AI is broken beyond any hope. The animation and movement mechanics would require a complete overhaul in order to render the game somewhat natural or realistic. Flanking, hiding, covering, peaking, intertia, natural reactions, interaction with objects - all that can hardly be achieved with the mechanics in place. Instead, the Devs chose to simply crank up suspect AI to terminator mode, oldest trick in the book to fake "difficulty". Yes, you can surely edit quite a few good looking videos, but in the end it's a unfulfilling and pointless game due to the absence of comprehensible AI behavior.
''absence of comprehensible AI behavior.'' Looks like someone didn't see the suspect shoot themselves or hasn't been stabbed by the guy hiding under the bed.
@@Hetzer86 They are literally not random wtf? Suspects will shot themselves if they're alone and under a heavy suppression fire, they will run and hide from you if they see you coming, they'll even fucking squeeze through cracks in the wall to escape from you. Not even mentioning that they'll hide behind corners and blind shoot you without actually showing their body.
Are lone cops permitted to respond to situations such as these? Seems irresponsible and just putting their lives, and also the civilians lives inside in danger.
@@tinzalix8624 Not the standard response, and honestly not always the best response sadly. One officer running into a situation like that has no clue how many shooters are or what the situation is. His actions could lead to an escalation and further loss of life. Things aren't that simple and the chances of a first responder having that level of experience and training to pull it off is unlikely. Even that notorious lone SAS operative was walking into a situation that was already had a perimeter set.
I'd agree with not wanting him on your team, sloppy gameplay but what the fuck do you mean evidence? On kill he bags the guns and that's it, no soft evidence to bag, nothing. Have you even played the game? Are you just saying things to sound clever? Actual urchin dude, I swear
The devs for this game seem to lean too hard into right wing tropes. I respect that a lot of the levels are built around "realistic" scenarios; but lots of things in the game make me think the devs are just neck beard basement dwellers who fantasize about themselves being in these types of scenarios where they get to blast away people they think are in the "other" group. Kinda lame.
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for these types of maps you can tell civs to run to the exit and they'll go to the bearcat and be arrested
It doesnt work on the school map, they refuse to move
@@agidotexe7167 It does, but can be bugged from time to time
@@agidotexe7167did you happen to wedge any door that leads outside?
@@agidotexe7167it does work, sometimes you have to tell them twice
How do you tell them to run to the exit?
I feel like Security or Civilian assistance could be a cool addition to this game.
Armed Civilians? Security Guards holding an area and screaming if a bad guy runs by or they hold the exit door so you can tell Civs to run to them for extract, or even a Security guard tapping in if you lose an officer, they become a third unit you can control but they can only provide cover?
I asked about this in the discord and all the community said was that it was unprofessional and other bs
@@Stink__yeah this is bs becuse in real life that happens to 🤦♂️
@@Stink__ Yeah I feel that but like Idk there are so many good samaratin videos. Maybe a Modder could give it a try.
I was thinking maybe even you enter a room and the civilian runs over to the gunman and starts wrestling them and you have to take a careful shot and if you dont help them in time they die idk there are so many scenarios.
The 911 calls ignited something in me that I ended up just going full-on dynamic, traps be damned.
That plus the screams and the haunting gun fire.. yeah, audio designer did an exceptional job of making it difficult not to just try to action man into danger. Very well done.
Try imagining you're a Uvalde cop, instead 💁♂
@@ScreechingPossum just thinking of those cowards makes my blood boil. I say this knowing full well the harsh realities of responding to any high intensity situation involving armed assailants and massive amounts of civilians.
@@ScreechingPossumDid. Was kicked for inactivity.
@@kalamari3288💀
I enjoyed this video. As a retired patrol LEO, in my 30 year career, I've participated in large building clearings and also taught them as a firearms instructor at my agency. Moving to the sound of the shots is key, even if some areas need to be bypassed. With multiple suspects, though, it makes the decisions harder. This would also be cool to run through with one other player as your partner, as if you were the first unit on scene and made entry before SWAT was activated. Nice job.
The game is multiplayer. You can play with around other 4 players
'Rush to your death'
(A 'mental model' I've heard used to describe the self-sacrificial, extremely high risk type of dynamics required to combat an active shooter, where being cautious sacrifices too much time).
The call at the beginning gave me chills
Same.
The rest of the call is even worse
@@MidnightSlayz it sure is
Cry
@@not_moist
Shut
THe use of the editor for alternate angles is appreciated. Looks great.
Glad you enjoyed it!
i dont understand how this could possibly be more controversial than the valley of dolls.
This is no different than the nightclub in my mind. Any controversy this game has is centered around the crimes against minors.
Yeah I guess since there's been around 400 school shootings since Columbine people are more used to it. Valley of the Dolls is more interesting due to the real life inspiration behind it and simply because most people hold child abuse as more disturbing than murder.
But why is it controversial like, this sht happens irl, are people blind in fantasy worlds? Xd
I don't understand how this could possibly be even more controversial than the Children of Tarone
valley of dolls is the sickest mission in my opinion. The moment you go down into the basement and see those barrels...i had to pause the game to take a break.
Took me 2 hrs to finish it solo with just pistol, the AI is insane difficult
Suspect AI is still a bit janky and overtuned. their morale is apparently bugged to where things like blowing up doors and killing/arresting other suspects raises their morale instead of lowering it.
The AI are worse now than before the1.0 update.
A pistol is basically a bb gun if someone is wearing rifle grade armor. They will barely feel being hit. So you need to shoot extremities or hands which is kind of hard to do when you are being shot at close range from an AK
Any cop in the US today will have their AR15 variant in the squad car with a few mags
I've seen this map on TH-cam so much this week, when I get back home Thursday night I'll be a pro on it lol
2:18 god DAMN
ThermoFisher Orbitrap and Liquid chromatography instruments @3:50. That’s crazy
Pentagon playing in the backround makes this 10x better
The Scot Peterson DLC is you just standing in a hallway.
I have a guess why they put so few npc's (civilians) on this map, but that makes it kinda feel empty.
But sure, they didnt want to have the mass killings in a level like this like at the airport mission in (i believe) CoD or the Hitman 2/3 maps😅.
All in all but an great game
Yep, I reckon this map has gone through a fair few iterations...
Waiting for doom slayer music to start 0:11
Great video bro. I loved the editing. New subscription earned
Thanks man!
Bro took “you know you gotta watch the bomb” so serious
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HOW DO I MAKE MY GAME LOOK LIKE THIS? GOD IT LOOKS AMAZING.
step one : have a 4080 build
Its Reshade, theres tonnes of presets this is the bodycam one
Or... GeForce now lol
How did you record 3rd person of yourself?
Replay feature added with v1.0
Hey, would you be able to show us a list of the mods you used for this video? Wouldn't mind trying out something like this myself.
7:03 “I think they’re killing civilians.” Dumbledore said calmly
Great video game.
wish you could turn off the specialty tool so it isn't on your back as a regular patrol cop.
We visiting America with this one!
The only problem I have with this game is that gunfire doesn’t have a realistic noise propagation; the noise it emits when firing might be realistic but the way you hear it 10 meters away isn’t (e.g : 4:16 - the shotgun sounds like it’s 3 closed rooms away)
I think you keep forgetting that gun shots are loud as fuck, of course a shotgun is going to sound extremely loud in a closed space
Only one cop got sent cause they're defunded.
Yous playing on godmode?
not blaming you, suspect AI is totally broken right now
AI is overtuned but still remains a skill issue
Ai is is more difficult than actual player would be the reaction time is insane. He had armour on but I had only light and I died all the time
@@nathanmitchell7961 Its definitely not a skill issue when the Ai can clearly kill you in ways you cant defend against. Go on the "thank you come again" level and stand in front of any of the windows and try to shoot the AI while they shoot back. They get to kill you and you can't hit them at all.
This can be the case but in other instances even the AI being this borked can still be overcomes with the right tactics, deployables and and skill.
People are trying to blame every facet of their experience on AI when they play a role in their success whether they ignore it or not.
@@aerball
4:16
active shooter: gets shot
civilian: um...
haha, yh, very casual response
He just shrugs it off is the thing like wtf that’s buckshot he just took
Nobody is quite well armed enough when you’re carrying a 12 gauge
What do you mean? It's just buckshot. It has no penetration and is easily absorbed by body armour, metal surfaces and is unreliable at longer ranges. Are you disabled?
Great map, great play
Well done
Glad you enjoyed it!
4:30 wrist ammo pouch?
I'm struggling with FPS, I sit roughly at 40-50 fps and often drops to 15fps at times (basically unplayable). Does anyone know what fps I should be expecting with my set up? My current setup is:
- Intel® CoreTM i9 12 Core Processor i9-10920X
- 8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 Ti
- 64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz
- 4TB CORSAIR MP600 PRO SSD
Normal Fps at 4k. not normal at 1440p or 1080p
How are people able to play these maps? Is it just because they've played through all the others in the past? I'm stuck on the 3rd level but I keep wanting to try new ones. Also, how do you go solo? Sometimes the commander roll is great and sometimes the AI is what gets me killed lol
I’ve found flash bangs to be a saver on that mission, and I think you just fire them to go solo.
AI helps me a lot - if you just want to try them solo then you can host a multiplayer game for friends only, and there all maps are available
8:24 what’s with the victim just appearing
this is America
Nope
Is the killcam playback a mod?
Nope, they added replays in v1.0 - you should see it in the main menu scream
hello, can you please tell me how you fix stutters?
Direct x12 launch helped me - stuttery at first but seems to smooth out over time. No idea why...
To fix the frame drops start the game on dx12
You dont rush in from room to room. I like that.
why te bo1 soundtrack hahahaa
For an active shooter they aren’t actively shooting too many people.
The game doesn't have alternate modes on each map anymore, and for some stupid reason (wah story/narrative dissonance reasons) they made this map a simple bomb threat map.
Imagine asking people to like and sub your vids. Yet you can't take time out of your day to respond to any of the comments. lolol
Hehe ;-)
That shotgun is useless. I hate when games have such short range for shotguns.
john whik kop
edit: how did you get the body cam thingy
It's a mod, you utter urchin
How do you take your helmet off? When I try, it's still on.
Pick “no helmet” in loadout section, otherwise is a bug
Yeah It doesn't work@@thisfaceisgreat
@@LilLieutenantRicky it does. It won't take it off in lobby but ingame, it will.
💀0:28
this map should include the officers checking their phones with the punisher screen savers and arresting parents for wanting to save their children
really tactical
There's problems with the map.
Even when rushing through without giving the team orders I can't explore the whole map. I have to hope I just get lucky with the bombs.
The breifing makes no mention of the bombs.
When disarming a bomb the player address TOC but then says nothing. Breaking immersion.
The breifing states there's a active shooting situation. But makes no mention of the bombs until the last minute. At least of the 13th december release of the game.
10 mins is too short for a big map like this. SWAT 4 gets away with such a timer because the maps are designed so the player comes across all the side areas easily. This map isn't designed like that. Even when skipping even going outside I blow up before searching every location. In the privious map (the valley of dolls or whatever it's called) it's a hard map but the player thinks and changes tactics. In this map it's a matter of "getting lucky" with finding the second bomb. The map could be more engaging, but there has to be some changes to get the player more engaged. As it stands if I so much as tell my AI team to do anything I don't have enough time to cover the map.
Every time the player fails there's also two loading screens and having to walk to redo the mission. Which makes the map even more frustrating to play. At least in the valley of dolls map I knew I was losing because of bad tactics on my part. This map is just blind dumb luck.
I think they don't mention the bombs since TOC doesn't know everything about the situation, it's an active shooting and they're sending units ASAP
The map like the rest of them is realistic. They are school shooters and there wont be loads of them. No indication of bombs? Obviously. How would the lspd actually know there are bombs at all. The only indication it the 911 call of a shooting. Thats what theyre going off. Aswell why would theyre be any reason for them to know where said bombs are either again the shooters are placing them. How are we gonna know where they are. Ive cleared the building fast and smooth and find the bombs everytime simply because im clearing all the rooms etc.
10 mins is too short? Well school shooting raids tend to be short. You must act quickly or everyones gonna die theres no time to be perfect and safe. Risk taking is required in these situations.
Complaining about map design doesnt make sense. The map is aiming to look like the science block of a college not square rooms for you to perfectly clear with ease. Realism is the key factor in all of this and its the key note this game strives to complete.
The ai thing is a little tricky i agree but in all honesty there is only so much ai will be able to do for this game. At the same time i simply find that getting my men to “fall in” and me go first works best. Maybe send a group to breach a room besides down the corridor whilst i do something else too works. It comes down to knowing what to do in this situation.
The load times and not correct voice line bugs are bugs and can hopefully be fixed. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but to me it just sounds like you maybe dont enjoy the realism as much? Correct me if im wrong.
@@reverendbutter bro proved the whole argument wrong
I haven't played the game but i believe it says threats in the briefing referring to the bombs
Filtered. This was a blast to clear vanilla no mods with the AI for the first time. It’s not the game for you.
Wheres mod list
I think adding pvp in this game would be something that would keep me playing this, otherwise missions can be pretty much easy for me as a veteran fps players (even dough enemies are good designed). Pvp would increase dopamine levels and increase/keep playerbase.
Do you happen to remember those times where there were only PVP mode? Would you play it over PVE? I wouldn't.
I think it is very dynamic and no 2 play thrus of the map are the same but I agree it gets easier and a little monotonous if we only get the same missions but I appreciate the ability to mod in maps
@@werfault4076 i dont remember, i own game for like 1 year approximately
@@bradleyhohenzy7499 i agree
i can't see your damage ?! you immortal?!
You can turn off the paper model in options
Worst school layout I have ever seen.
Also very frustrating, that the suspect AI is broken beyond any hope. The animation and movement mechanics would require a complete overhaul in order to render the game somewhat natural or realistic. Flanking, hiding, covering, peaking, intertia, natural reactions, interaction with objects - all that can hardly be achieved with the mechanics in place.
Instead, the Devs chose to simply crank up suspect AI to terminator mode, oldest trick in the book to fake "difficulty".
Yes, you can surely edit quite a few good looking videos, but in the end it's a unfulfilling and pointless game due to the absence of comprehensible AI behavior.
''absence of comprehensible AI behavior.''
Looks like someone didn't see the suspect shoot themselves or hasn't been stabbed by the guy hiding under the bed.
@@werfault4076 ok so you deem some randomly triggered animations as adequate AI behavior? Good for you, other people may have standards tho...
@@Hetzer86 They are literally not random wtf? Suspects will shot themselves if they're alone and under a heavy suppression fire, they will run and hide from you if they see you coming, they'll even fucking squeeze through cracks in the wall to escape from you. Not even mentioning that they'll hide behind corners and blind shoot you without actually showing their body.
Dude takes 30 shots and still standing.. talk about easy mode
Are lone cops permitted to respond to situations such as these? Seems irresponsible and just putting their lives, and also the civilians lives inside in danger.
When there is an active shooting, you go in and run towards the gunshots, alone or not. Priority 1 is neutralizing the threat
Then what are they supposed to do let everyone inside die while casually waiting outside??
You should write a book on active shooter protocol, you seem to know everything.
They are. Even if they aren't, anyonewith a backbone would.
@@tinzalix8624 Not the standard response, and honestly not always the best response sadly. One officer running into a situation like that has no clue how many shooters are or what the situation is. His actions could lead to an escalation and further loss of life. Things aren't that simple and the chances of a first responder having that level of experience and training to pull it off is unlikely. Even that notorious lone SAS operative was walking into a situation that was already had a perimeter set.
Def dont wanna this guy on your team. Je basicly Forget one of the more important objective IS TO GET EVIDENCE 😂😂😂😂 common youtubers
I'd agree with not wanting him on your team, sloppy gameplay but what the fuck do you mean evidence? On kill he bags the guns and that's it, no soft evidence to bag, nothing. Have you even played the game? Are you just saying things to sound clever? Actual urchin dude, I swear
The devs for this game seem to lean too hard into right wing tropes. I respect that a lot of the levels are built around "realistic" scenarios; but lots of things in the game make me think the devs are just neck beard basement dwellers who fantasize about themselves being in these types of scenarios where they get to blast away people they think are in the "other" group. Kinda lame.
What the hell are you talking about?
we caught a school shooter wannabe here
THAT COP GONNA BE MORE THAN A CELEBRITY AFTER THIS ONE!‼‼‼💯💢💢💢💥❤🩹❤🩹💦💦💦💨💨🗣🗣🗣🙌🙌BLUD BOUTTA RECEIVE THE NICKNAME "THE FEDERAL GRIM REAPER"
all the dudes that grew up with "no russian" be like "this shit tame"