Based on my experience with our '21 Silverado, I would say the quality of the end product is not worth the asking price. It's a shame because they did a lot of good things in the redesign on the T1-based vehicles, but it seems they are engineered to last the length of the warranty and no longer. Also, if you get the L84 5.3 or L87 6.2 V8, I strongly recommend disabling DFM by driving in "L9" (on the 10-speed) or "L7" (on the 8-speed). Disabling the system makes the drivability way better and greatly reduces the likelihood of lifter failure. I've only noted a 1 MPG loss in fuel economy with the 5.3 since these have a mild 3.23 final drive. That would make for a good TFL MPG loop video: driving in "D" vs. "L9" on this Yukon AT4 6.2.
Exactly. I can't believe this issue isn't brought up in every review. Seems odd to me but maybe that's just me. Reviewers talk trash about CVTs in any car they drive that has one but somehow DFM is off limits. Makes me wonder..
@@jonesjones7057 It's definitely an issue, and it isn't unique to GM as other auto makers also build engines with cylinder deactivation. I would think a change in the ECU tune would be enough to regain the 1 MPG DFM adds without the added mechanical complexity of the system. If the lifters in our truck had failed out of warranty, it would easily have been a $5,000+ repair, too.
I haven’t owned a Chevy for a while now. I have considered their pickups lately, just due to the price!! The 2021s were priced very well, but several of my friends have a 19 or newer. 6 out of 8 have had no issues at all and 2 drive the crap out of their trucks. 2, though, have had nightmarish experience with theirs. Both are 5.3. One 2019 RST, the other has a 2020 Trail Boss. They have both been stranded more than once resulting in several trips to the dealership, some behind/on top of a tow truck. They have payments and can’t wait to get their trucks paid off to get rid of them. I have tried to convince them to get out now and get what they can. They are not in the position to pay more, so they are kinda stuck. I think I have a solution for each of them, it will cost me some $$, but they are good friends. It will be a Christmas gift for them. My buddy has 2 F150s similarly optioned with the 2.7 and Pro Power onboard. Both SuperCrew XLT 4x4s. I will pay the difference to get them to basically the same position they are in now, but with new trucks. There are a lot of us with 2017 or newer F150s, most are Hybrids, and we have been problem free other than a few recalls. Routine maintenance is very inexpensive. They find out about this on Saturday when I take them out for a steak dinner I owe each of them. (Football bet) I will be driving one of the F150s when I pick them up. My buddy owns the dealership and through myself & my businesses, (I have bought over 100 F150s from his dealership since 1998), so I get a bit of leeway. I think they will jump for the deal, but be very shy in doing so. I hope they do. I just love the Trail Boss,,,,,,, I’m tempted to roll the dice on it for an off-road toy, but I already have a Bronco Badlands. I just love these AT4 Yukon’s, but a 6.2 is over $95,000 Canadian!! They can reach $100K!!! I agree, they are asking too much, especially if you are looking at keeping it past warranty.
@@shitloveaduck Yeah, our '21 Silverado is perfect on paper and was priced well, but it's had a ton of issues (lifter failure at 585 miles, bed misalignment, a rear vent that didn't work, incorrectly installed trim pieces, needed a new serpentine belt and idler pulley at 6300 miles, a litany of squeaks/rattles/clunks, etc.). I'm looking at an F150 with the 2.7 as a possible replacement down the road.
Yeah GM quality is garbage. Resale also reflects that. DFM/AFM is a really bad idea and always will be. As far as the 8 speed goes is a defective piece of crap that GM keeps doubling down on. They should just admit it will never be reliable enough and quit making it. I would go with Dodge with their zf 8 speed or with Ford. If you want something that hold up get a tundra. GM is in last place IMO.
@@reneejefferyrowley6379 still no diesel. They haven’t figured out how to fit the intercooler yet. The z71 and at4s have different bumpers than the other models which allow for better approach angles
I would love to see the full size DuraMax in that package. I also wish they made a five passenger version. I wouldn’t mind paying extra if they offered it.
I think the Volt's hybrid system would be good for this, a lot more space, use a smaller battery for maybe 10 miles of all electric range, use the electric motors to do most the work with the diesel mainly acting as a generator, the 3.0 diesel actually weighs less than the 6.2, that doesn't include the emissions system, but that's really just an extra tank and heavier cats (DPF). It won't increase the hwy mpg, but it should increase the city to almost what the hwy mpg is now.
I really think what's GM doing with AT4 packages is amazing, for everyday driver you can go in the city and you can go off road (no dramatic off road). Love the color and the vehicle overall after driving.
If you turn off DFM with a tune, it will void the warranty. Instead I bought the Pulsar LT in-line tuner, which plugs directly into the main wiring harness in the engine bay. Simply take it off for dealership trips. Takes about 2 minutes to install and uninstall. The vehicles computer system is never modified so the warranty stays intact. I have this on my 6.2L 2021 Sierra AT4 and it works great!
@@billluster7687 That's what I meant. The one I've heard people use is the trifecta tune which can also re-calibrate shift points, turn off afm etc.. and like you say revert back to oem settings. This is especially useful for those suckers that have the 8 speed. It helps, but there is only so much one can do for that crapola turkey trans. I personally would stay away from the brand. On re-sale alone they are a very poor investment. All Mary Barra worries about is her 20 million bonus money. Worst CEO ever.
Realistically who is spending 60-70 grand to do heavy off roading w this. Probably 97 of these will be asphalt bound for their entire life seeing nothing more then the occasional gravel road.
You don’t understand. It’s dumped right now. When you turn the vehicle on it raises up a couple of inches, and when offering it raises up even more. There’s an extra 45 inches of clearance from what you’re saying in the video to the higher settings.
Finally got to drive a 2023 at4 and im serious when i say i have NEVER driven a more comfy, compliant and smooth riding off road vehicle from GM like this ever before!! This thing is better than every silverado, suburban, escalade and even mercedes GLE/GLS... silent turn signals, auto fold step rail, ice cold SEATS, and even though youre rolling on nubby tires on 20in wheels it is SILENT on the highway and literally smooth over every crack and over paved manhole cover... insanely smooth... an offroad suspension truck from GM!!! Wow! 👏 👏 👏
I have a 2021 GMC Yukon LT. I initially went to the dealership to buy a 2021 Tahoe, but once I saw the Yukon in Sky Metallic, let's just say I was hooked. Very beautiful truck. I have 10K miles on it and the other day, the engine light came on. Went to the dealer and the code was for the "Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor". There were no other symptoms, the truck ran fine, idled fine, no odd noises. I am scheduled to take it in on Monday (its Friday) to have it checked. I have driven it to Florida, Virginia, and South Carolina. Runs great and gets a lot of attention. I certainly hope that this is a minor issue. It would be a shame to spend the kind of money that I did for a lemon. I will keep you posted.
We just placed an order for this exact set up and color. Going from a 2021 Yukon Denali. Love the AT4. The 6.2 is The ONLY way to go with these trucks.
Those A-arms are a huge drawback of independent rear suspension and was my biggest worry when they announced it. Nice interior space improvement though! I also am not a fan of the button gear selector (bring back the column shifter!), and the price is pretty high considering $80k also buys you a High Country 3500 dually that can tow pretty much anything.
I agree 100%. I was behind one yesterday on the freeway and noticed how low the rear suspension was hanging down. I cant believe Engineers / Designers would even approve that. I have had 2 Yukons and 1 Tahoe, both awesome vehicles but 80K? No way.
Just bought a ‘21 Tahoe with the baby Duramax. It’s fantastic. Perfect engine for this type of vehicle. Just a huge miss imo that you can’t get the Duramax in the Z71/AT4.
My 2000 Chevy suburban 1500 4 x 4 has a quarter of 1,000,000 miles on the clock, and runs just as good as it did the day it was purchased. The heated leather seats are as comfortable as any other vehicle I've ever been in, the transmission works flawlessly, my family enjoys it a great deal, and I've used it as a base camp on numerous hunting, fishing and camping trips. It is the perfect vehicle. Best of all? The cost of admission was a mere $4000, and it is paid for.
The Duramax would be the perfect engine for this rig, making it the swiss army knife version of the Yukon/Tahoe lineup. Great highway mileage to get where you're going and enough torque to bomb around offroad. But it doesn't fit.
I have 2021 silverado with 3.0 dura and loving it. I absolutely would get these with duramax not 5.3 or 6.2. Had suburban with 5.3 and MPG is not good. I'm getting 24 avg with 2 inch leveling and couldn't be any happier than v8s that O had on both 5.3 silverado and or suburban with 5.3. Worth every penny upgrade. So much power alarm 1500RPM.
It fit but they dont want to use all their cards in the first model i guess they will put it next year , last year they said they cant put 6.2 now we have it
@@aal-m3545 I think you're right about the 6.2 - they didn't want to give you every option for the AT4 at the start. But the intercooler for the diesel won't fit in the redesigned front end of the AT4. Maybe they could re-engineer the front end so it will. We'll see.
GM never had strong half ton transmissions. This goes back to the 1980s with the 700R4 / 4L60 non-E, to the 1990s with the electronically controlled 4L60e. The 700R4 base was used GM RWD cars and half tons from the early 1980s to like 2010. The 6L80 6 speed introduced in the 2009 model year for GM full size trucks was a decent transmission though. The 8 speeds are trash and I haven't looked into the 10 speeds.
@@joshuarodrique2096 I have to disagree with you on the 10-speeds. The 10-speed was a joint design by GMC and Ford. It has never worked correctly for Ford or GMC.
6 speed is the only trans to go with. No problems on mine with 125k. If it doesn't have a dip stick stay far away. High country and denials are no goes.
@@bobcook8576 I mean no dipstick doesn't equally mean bad transmission. For the Dodges, the ZF 8HP transmissions doesn't have a transmission dipstick and these are far superior to the Chrysler 66RFE that had a dipstick.
I always like the Yukon/Tahoe...until I see the price. It's just not worth a luxury SUV price, if they trimmed 5-10k scross the whole lineup they'd be an easy recommend. You're better off going with a Traverse if you want the 3rd row and a truck to tow. Hell at that price you can damn near get a Traverse AND Silverado.
Premium fuel is big no for me. At $.50 difference per gallon it adds up, for no real benefits. Especially since many times pumps don't even have premium fuel in stock.
5.3 engine is your only option then. You can run 87 in the 6.2 though, the computer can compensate for it by advancing the ignition timing a little. You'll lose about 20HP. That and if for some reason the engine wrecks, you won't be covered by warranty since the manufacturer suggested minimum octane is 91. But I don't think they will test your fuel for octane rating during a warranty repair...
I so want to own a Yukon/Suburban/Tahoe!! I’ll stick with my ‘21 Highlander for now! I’ve been looking around for a used one but with these crazy prices for new and used, I will wait for a better time 😋
I've always liked these big SUV's but now can't really afford them & and if I spend that much money I want to make sure it is reliable in the long run.
the whole truck seems super well done but i really wish that solid rear axle was still around, especially for when these trucks are gonna be lifted or go off road
Hey Andre, Love you're reviews. I think you should buy 2 of them. 80k plus tax & license, plus premium fuel pushing $5 a gallon. Ouch! Yeah, I could do it. I'll get something for 40 to 45k and leave the rest in the bank. Would it look good in my garage? Bring on over and park it in there. People who know me, will thing i've lost my mind...
I love the new Yukon and Tahoe but I wonder why there is no center seat headrest in the second (bench option) and third row. It is quite important safety issue and if you make a car for 7/8 adults make at least retractable headrests for center seats.
I would agree with Ed Ricco the DFM is a detriment. I presently own a 2021 AT4 with the 5.3 and it lost a lifter. I feel its better to have all cylinders firing instead of letting them randomly shut off and on. Personally I would also prefer a 3.31 rear end ratio. The 3.23 is too high causing the unit to downshift and upshift going up hill. I am trading for a 2022 with a 6.2 motor. I would also like GM to get rid of the chrome inside of the cabin. The sun reflects off it going down the road.
Premium unleaded gasoline meeting ASTM specification D4814 with a posted octane rating of 93 - (R+M)/2 - is highly recommended for best performance and fuel economy. Unleaded gasoline with an octane rated as low as 87 can be used.
Every time I see one of the new GM full sized SUV’s on the road, I can’t help but think that the body, especially as viewed from the front, seems higher / taller than it needs to be - you also see it on the front quarter panels, which just looks off to me. Even my wife commented on how odd it looks, as the front looks like a brick.
Man, I was loving this truck until I saw that hideous shifter selector! Why couldn't they put a steering column one or even a traditional center console shifter instead of this crap.
Previous owner for 2012 Tahoe LT and current owner for 2018 Tahoe Premier, wouldn't repeat it duo to poor interior quality. I'm done with GM. Plus the new generation Yukon and Tahoe is very ugly all around, gear change buttons are silly, and price has gone crazy!!
Considering the 23' Sequoia TRD Pro has much worse approach angle, worse departure angle, less clearance, and 30% less cargo room now, for basically the same price I'd buy the Yukon AT4 over a Sequoia in a heartbeat. I do wish they'd make it with the 3.0L diesel though.
Longer engine (straight 6) plus big intercooler in front of the radiator with a smaller front bumper for off-road clearance means there genuinely may not be enough room for it.
I really like what GM has done with their SUVs. I have been driving GM trucks since 1988 and had great luck with them. Unfortunately GMs quality and reputation have been tanking for years with no end in sight. I would certainly hesitate to purchase another truck from them. I hope my 2010 lasts another 250k.
GM builds the best looking, highest featured large SUV with the Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade, but they remain so unreliably made that you end up in the shop far more often than you should from my experience. Never own one again.
With 1400 lb payload, carrying (6) 200lb passengers will only leave you with 200lbs for cargo. Put a cargo box on top filled and your near the limit which doesn’t give you any room for a trailer. Even without cargo, there is no remaining capacity for a trailer. Something to think about if you imagine packing the inside with all your friends or family and expect to pull something.
It doesn’t matter what features you add on a GM, until they fundamentally change them from a government supported union shop to a free market company that depends on the market to survive, buying one will be a crapshoot. Might as well buy a Range Rover.
I like these... I could just never pull the trigger on buying one. I know they sell a ton of them, but they just seem to be overpriced. I'd like a bare bones off-road version... I just don't need all the fancy stuff like a sun roof and cooled seats...
I skipped the AT4 and went with the Yukon Denali XL for the family hauler. I like the interior stitching and the overall look but I don’t think we would benefit from any of the off-road tech on such a big vehicle. I have other trucks/Jeeps than we can take off-road.
Based on my experience with our '21 Silverado, I would say the quality of the end product is not worth the asking price. It's a shame because they did a lot of good things in the redesign on the T1-based vehicles, but it seems they are engineered to last the length of the warranty and no longer. Also, if you get the L84 5.3 or L87 6.2 V8, I strongly recommend disabling DFM by driving in "L9" (on the 10-speed) or "L7" (on the 8-speed). Disabling the system makes the drivability way better and greatly reduces the likelihood of lifter failure. I've only noted a 1 MPG loss in fuel economy with the 5.3 since these have a mild 3.23 final drive. That would make for a good TFL MPG loop video: driving in "D" vs. "L9" on this Yukon AT4 6.2.
Exactly. I can't believe this issue isn't brought up in every review. Seems odd to me but maybe that's just me. Reviewers talk trash about CVTs in any car they drive that has one but somehow DFM is off limits. Makes me wonder..
@@jonesjones7057 It's definitely an issue, and it isn't unique to GM as other auto makers also build engines with cylinder deactivation. I would think a change in the ECU tune would be enough to regain the 1 MPG DFM adds without the added mechanical complexity of the system. If the lifters in our truck had failed out of warranty, it would easily have been a $5,000+ repair, too.
I haven’t owned a Chevy for a while now. I have considered their pickups lately, just due to the price!! The 2021s were priced very well, but several of my friends have a 19 or newer. 6 out of 8 have had no issues at all and 2 drive the crap out of their trucks. 2, though, have had nightmarish experience with theirs. Both are 5.3. One 2019 RST, the other has a 2020 Trail Boss. They have both been stranded more than once resulting in several trips to the dealership, some behind/on top of a tow truck. They have payments and can’t wait to get their trucks paid off to get rid of them. I have tried to convince them to get out now and get what they can. They are not in the position to pay more, so they are kinda stuck. I think I have a solution for each of them, it will cost me some $$, but they are good friends. It will be a Christmas gift for them. My buddy has 2 F150s similarly optioned with the 2.7 and Pro Power onboard. Both SuperCrew XLT 4x4s. I will pay the difference to get them to basically the same position they are in now, but with new trucks. There are a lot of us with 2017 or newer F150s, most are Hybrids, and we have been problem free other than a few recalls. Routine maintenance is very inexpensive. They find out about this on Saturday when I take them out for a steak dinner I owe each of them. (Football bet) I will be driving one of the F150s when I pick them up. My buddy owns the dealership and through myself & my businesses, (I have bought over 100 F150s from his dealership since 1998), so I get a bit of leeway. I think they will jump for the deal, but be very shy in doing so. I hope they do.
I just love the Trail Boss,,,,,,, I’m tempted to roll the dice on it for an off-road toy, but I already have a Bronco Badlands.
I just love these AT4 Yukon’s, but a 6.2 is over $95,000 Canadian!! They can reach $100K!!!
I agree, they are asking too much, especially if you are looking at keeping it past warranty.
@@shitloveaduck Yeah, our '21 Silverado is perfect on paper and was priced well, but it's had a ton of issues (lifter failure at 585 miles, bed misalignment, a rear vent that didn't work, incorrectly installed trim pieces, needed a new serpentine belt and idler pulley at 6300 miles, a litany of squeaks/rattles/clunks, etc.). I'm looking at an F150 with the 2.7 as a possible replacement down the road.
Yeah GM quality is garbage. Resale also reflects that. DFM/AFM is a really bad idea and always will be. As far as the 8 speed goes is a defective piece of crap that GM keeps doubling down on. They should just admit it will never be reliable enough and quit making it. I would go with Dodge with their zf 8 speed or with Ford. If you want something that hold up get a tundra. GM is in last place IMO.
Such a bummer you can't get the 3.0 Duramax with the AT4. That would be perfect!
Absolutely
I think you can now
@@reneejefferyrowley6379 still no diesel. They haven’t figured out how to fit the intercooler yet. The z71 and at4s have different bumpers than the other models which allow for better approach angles
I just bought mine last week w standard bed and crew cab. It is 2021 though
3 liter diesel engine mast replace to 6.6 l . That is very recommended!!!
I would love to see the full size DuraMax in that package. I also wish they made a five passenger version. I wouldn’t mind paying extra if they offered it.
Its nice. I really like the 6.2 but it can be a little thirsty. A diesel hybrid would be a major transformation and maybe worthy of the asking price.
The GM triplets have a 3.0 Duratec diesel engine, but I'm not sure if the AT4 gets it. And it isn't a hybrid.
Wouldn't diesel hybrid be redundant? Both are good options for torque getting off the line but at speed wouldn't the has engine be better than diesel?
@@marklihsu my thoughts exactly.
Agree, a diesel hybrid is the way to go. If the 3.0l diesel comes back that would be my choice.
I think the Volt's hybrid system would be good for this, a lot more space, use a smaller battery for maybe 10 miles of all electric range, use the electric motors to do most the work with the diesel mainly acting as a generator, the 3.0 diesel actually weighs less than the 6.2, that doesn't include the emissions system, but that's really just an extra tank and heavier cats (DPF). It won't increase the hwy mpg, but it should increase the city to almost what the hwy mpg is now.
I really think what's GM doing with AT4 packages is amazing, for everyday driver you can go in the city and you can go off road (no dramatic off road). Love the color and the vehicle overall after driving.
Bought it! Love it! Road tripping across US now, what a pleasure to drive! Effortless power… heavy foot averaging 15mpg…
Great looking SUV, always loved GM styling! But, any GM with cylinder deactivation is a HUGE NO from me. I still buy their cars depending on engine.
You can turn off AFM with a tune. Also some models have it disabled because of the chip shortage. Which is actually a good thing lol.
If you turn off DFM with a tune, it will void the warranty. Instead I bought the Pulsar LT in-line tuner, which plugs directly into the main wiring harness in the engine bay. Simply take it off for dealership trips. Takes about 2 minutes to install and uninstall. The vehicles computer system is never modified so the warranty stays intact. I have this on my 6.2L 2021 Sierra AT4 and it works great!
@@billluster7687 That's what I meant. The one I've heard people use is the trifecta tune which can also re-calibrate shift points, turn off afm etc.. and like you say revert back to oem settings. This is especially useful for those suckers that have the 8 speed. It helps, but there is only so much one can do for that crapola turkey trans. I personally would stay away from the brand. On re-sale alone they are a very poor investment. All Mary Barra worries about is her 20 million bonus money. Worst CEO ever.
If they made this in a 2 door version an called it the blazer . It would be epic.
That would be awesome . I remember those big 2 door blazers from the 90's.
No matter what.. An offroader with a low hanging rear suspension like that is just bad.
Exactly! How’s that efficient?
I’m not sure why the lower control arm had to curve down like that. Why not make it curve up? Must be some physics or cv shaft clearance reason.
Great point. Seeing them on the road it looks even lower…hard to see that ending well off road
Realistically who is spending 60-70 grand to do heavy off roading w this. Probably 97 of these will be asphalt bound for their entire life seeing nothing more then the occasional gravel road.
You don’t understand. It’s dumped right now. When you turn the vehicle on it raises up a couple of inches, and when offering it raises up even more. There’s an extra 45 inches of clearance from what you’re saying in the video to the higher settings.
🌟🇺🇸🌟 Toyota Sequoia needs to be bigger than suburban! I like the Yukon XL, but it's a GM. Always hold me back from buying one.
If you don't like GM, look into the Ford Expedition EL or MAX. There's also the Excursion, if you don't mind getting something at least a decade old.
@@bill_clinton697 Everything is so EXPENSIVE, BILL!
Bigger than Suburban?? Did you mean to say Tahoe?
Actually, GM dominates this full size market
@@ethanwang9050 Mcdonald dominate burger sales. It's it the best burger?
Finally got to drive a 2023 at4 and im serious when i say i have NEVER driven a more comfy, compliant and smooth riding off road vehicle from GM like this ever before!! This thing is better than every silverado, suburban, escalade and even mercedes GLE/GLS... silent turn signals, auto fold step rail, ice cold SEATS, and even though youre rolling on nubby tires on 20in wheels it is SILENT on the highway and literally smooth over every crack and over paved manhole cover... insanely smooth... an offroad suspension truck from GM!!! Wow! 👏 👏 👏
I have a 2021 GMC Yukon LT. I initially went to the dealership to buy a 2021 Tahoe, but once I saw the Yukon in Sky Metallic, let's just say I was hooked. Very beautiful truck. I have 10K miles on it and the other day, the engine light came on. Went to the dealer and the code was for the "Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor". There were no other symptoms, the truck ran fine, idled fine, no odd noises. I am scheduled to take it in on Monday (its Friday) to have it checked. I have driven it to Florida, Virginia, and South Carolina. Runs great and gets a lot of attention. I certainly hope that this is a minor issue. It would be a shame to spend the kind of money that I did for a lemon. I will keep you posted.
For the price, you can get a 4Runner. Better off road, and it won’t need an engine overhaul at 20,000 miles.
Very nice. Def better than everything else on the market
We just placed an order for this exact set up and color. Going from a 2021 Yukon Denali. Love the AT4. The 6.2 is The ONLY way to go with these trucks.
Those A-arms are a huge drawback of independent rear suspension and was my biggest worry when they announced it. Nice interior space improvement though!
I also am not a fan of the button gear selector (bring back the column shifter!), and the price is pretty high considering $80k also buys you a High Country 3500 dually that can tow pretty much anything.
Yeah but good luck doing any off-road maneuvering
yeah the capabilities of the trucks are undeniable ... the yukon does hold more rugrats....
I agree 100%. I was behind one yesterday on the freeway and noticed how low the rear suspension was hanging down. I cant believe Engineers / Designers would even approve that. I have had 2 Yukons and 1 Tahoe, both awesome vehicles but 80K? No way.
Need to test that new Expedition. First a XLT FX4 then a Timberline.
Just bought a ‘21 Tahoe with the baby Duramax. It’s fantastic. Perfect engine for this type of vehicle. Just a huge miss imo that you can’t get the Duramax in the Z71/AT4.
Is there a way to shut off the Interior microphones on these new GM trucks and SUVs? Or are they always active?
10:55 It makes a noise when you shift into park?
My 2000 Chevy suburban 1500 4 x 4 has a quarter of 1,000,000 miles on the clock, and runs just as good as it did the day it was purchased. The heated leather seats are as comfortable as any other vehicle I've ever been in, the transmission works flawlessly, my family enjoys it a great deal, and I've used it as a base camp on numerous hunting, fishing and camping trips. It is the perfect vehicle. Best of all? The cost of admission was a mere $4000, and it is paid for.
Was one of the best but anymore with air suspension and the that weird transmission shifter buttons
Glad have package At4 with the 6.2, we have 11gmc Denali xl with 270,000 on it , getting close to updating
The Duramax would be the perfect engine for this rig, making it the swiss army knife version of the Yukon/Tahoe lineup. Great highway mileage to get where you're going and enough torque to bomb around offroad. But it doesn't fit.
Maybe the teenage Duramax? The straight 6? I believe they are in the Silverado 1500
@@mattborgens3008 That's the one. The 3.0. Won't fit in the AT4.
I have 2021 silverado with 3.0 dura and loving it. I absolutely would get these with duramax not 5.3 or 6.2. Had suburban with 5.3 and MPG is not good.
I'm getting 24 avg with 2 inch leveling and couldn't be any happier than v8s that O had on both 5.3 silverado and or suburban with 5.3. Worth every penny upgrade.
So much power alarm 1500RPM.
It fit but they dont want to use all their cards in the first model i guess they will put it next year , last year they said they cant put 6.2 now we have it
@@aal-m3545 I think you're right about the 6.2 - they didn't want to give you every option for the AT4 at the start. But the intercooler for the diesel won't fit in the redesigned front end of the AT4. Maybe they could re-engineer the front end so it will. We'll see.
i like the front end... but am with Nathan with the dislike for push-button shifters
That’s Andre.
Yeah going 0-60 0.4 seconds quicker is really going to help a lot out on the offroad trails...
Slow sucks....
Drove it for a week, the transmission buttons begin to feel normal
4 runner I would take
This is like beating a dead horse, but the GMC/Chevy transmissions have been defective for the last 12 years. Their Diesel transmissions are better.
GM never had strong half ton transmissions. This goes back to the 1980s with the 700R4 / 4L60 non-E, to the 1990s with the electronically controlled 4L60e. The 700R4 base was used GM RWD cars and half tons from the early 1980s to like 2010. The 6L80 6 speed introduced in the 2009 model year for GM full size trucks was a decent transmission though. The 8 speeds are trash and I haven't looked into the 10 speeds.
The GM 6 speeds are very reliable and it looks like the 10 speeds are a good design too. 8 speed and 4L60s you should avoid like the plague though.
@@joshuarodrique2096 I have to disagree with you on the 10-speeds. The 10-speed was a joint design by GMC and Ford. It has never worked correctly for Ford or GMC.
6 speed is the only trans to go with. No problems on mine with 125k. If it doesn't have a dip stick stay far away. High country and denials are no goes.
@@bobcook8576 I mean no dipstick doesn't equally mean bad transmission. For the Dodges, the ZF 8HP transmissions doesn't have a transmission dipstick and these are far superior to the Chrysler 66RFE that had a dipstick.
I always like the Yukon/Tahoe...until I see the price. It's just not worth a luxury SUV price, if they trimmed 5-10k scross the whole lineup they'd be an easy recommend. You're better off going with a Traverse if you want the 3rd row and a truck to tow. Hell at that price you can damn near get a Traverse AND Silverado.
Premium fuel is big no for me. At $.50 difference per gallon it adds up, for no real benefits. Especially since many times pumps don't even have premium fuel in stock.
5.3 engine is your only option then. You can run 87 in the 6.2 though, the computer can compensate for it by advancing the ignition timing a little. You'll lose about 20HP. That and if for some reason the engine wrecks, you won't be covered by warranty since the manufacturer suggested minimum octane is 91. But I don't think they will test your fuel for octane rating during a warranty repair...
I so want to own a Yukon/Suburban/Tahoe!! I’ll stick with my ‘21 Highlander for now!
I’ve been looking around for a used one but with these crazy prices for new and used, I will wait for a better time 😋
I've always liked these big SUV's but now can't really afford them & and if I spend that much money I want to make sure it is reliable in the long run.
Love the videos! So we all know that Texans love our trucks! But just an idea of a video of who does the best Texas edition!
It looks great but we are ordering a Z71 Tahoe in January, the next best large SUV.
the whole truck seems super well done but i really wish that solid rear axle was still around, especially for when these trucks are gonna be lifted or go off road
I trust that GM would re-engineer those rear suspension links just like how Ford did with the Explorer suspension between 2004 to 2006 as I recall.
This is the Best looking Full size suv on the market IMO, and I’ve that the 3L Diesel get you 30MPG on the highway
What about the valve lifter issues?
The grill and rear part that is normally chrome is smoked , is this an option? I just ordered one of these and want this on mine.
Hey Andre, Love you're reviews. I think you should buy 2 of them. 80k plus tax & license, plus premium fuel pushing $5 a gallon. Ouch! Yeah, I could do it. I'll get something for 40 to 45k and leave the rest in the bank. Would it look good in my garage? Bring on over and park it in there. People who know me, will thing i've lost my mind...
The nicest looking full size SUV especially on the outside
"the aluminum skid plate is of course plastic"
Legendary GM cost cutting. I wanna love GM but I hate how cheap they are.
Love the 6.2. Thats the best SUV on the road today
I love the new Yukon and Tahoe but I wonder why there is no center seat headrest in the second (bench option) and third row. It is quite important safety issue and if you make a car for 7/8 adults make at least retractable headrests for center seats.
Is rear departure angle on the XL pretty close to that of the shorter wheel base? If so, I’ll be getting the XL version
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*News Flash GMC built quality still sucks , can't believe people are still buying GMC in the year 2021* 🤣😅
Why diesel power stroke not present? Or another complectation have it?
Very nice...good finish. Hopefully reliable like my older ones
Man we really want this for a family hauler......but those shift buttons about kills it for me.
Plastic skid plate says it best!
I would agree with Ed Ricco the DFM is a detriment. I presently own a 2021 AT4 with the 5.3 and it lost a lifter. I feel its better to have all cylinders firing instead of letting them randomly shut off and on. Personally I would also prefer a 3.31 rear end ratio. The 3.23 is too high causing the unit to downshift and upshift going up hill. I am trading for a 2022 with a 6.2 motor. I would also like GM to get rid of the chrome inside of the cabin. The sun reflects off it going down the road.
Looks good! Other than the Tail Lights & PREMIUM FUEL... Are they NUTS?
79k! Wow if you really need it I guess its worth it. You can always wait 2 or 3 years for depreciation to hit.
Add buy one, but I really like that timberline package on the expedition
I like it, just not sure about the quality or dealership experience.
Why is the antenna up front and on the drivers side?
Towing an enclosed car hauler induces soooo much sag…. Ugh. Gotta look for some solutions but might just get a 3/4 ton truck again
Beautiful truck. I’d get bigger tires and more aggressive wheels. Other than that…
Oh man, I love those.
Beautiful 🤩
Absolutely!!! Gorgeous SUV
Premium unleaded gasoline meeting ASTM
specification D4814 with a posted octane
rating of 93 - (R+M)/2 - is highly
recommended for best performance and fuel
economy. Unleaded gasoline with an octane
rated as low as 87 can be used.
Every time I see one of the new GM full sized SUV’s on the road, I can’t help but think that the body, especially as viewed from the front, seems higher / taller than it needs to be - you also see it on the front quarter panels, which just looks off to me. Even my wife commented on how odd it looks, as the front looks like a brick.
Fully agree...something is wrong in the way this new generation looks
Nahh, looks good to me.
Waiting for the Sequoia upgrade!!
Man, I was loving this truck until I saw that hideous shifter selector! Why couldn't they put a steering column one or even a traditional center console shifter instead of this crap.
Those rear suspensions are a deal breaker for me.
Why? The independent rear suspension makes it ride so smooth. Why don't you like that idea?
@@MrJhhallmark It is too low. I know people who broke it driving on small rocks.
Previous owner for 2012 Tahoe LT and current owner for 2018 Tahoe Premier, wouldn't repeat it duo to poor interior quality. I'm done with GM. Plus the new generation Yukon and Tahoe is very ugly all around, gear change buttons are silly, and price has gone crazy!!
Yes.
Cars are starting to price out middle class. Good luck with sales.
Unfortunately, people will spend more on vehicles than their house and lose 30% value every year. Because "i can afford the payment".
And yet it seems like every other suv on the road is a new Tahoe or Yukon
There's cheaper vehicles. This is an off road optimized 420hp Yukon lmao go buy a base civic if it's that big of a deal my guy
Uber and Lyft are snapping these up like candy. Basically they are the only ones who can really afford to purchase these vehicles.
Considering the 23' Sequoia TRD Pro has much worse approach angle, worse departure angle, less clearance, and 30% less cargo room now, for basically the same price I'd buy the Yukon AT4 over a Sequoia in a heartbeat. I do wish they'd make it with the 3.0L diesel though.
Very nice vehicle but the price is out of this world. Vehicle pricing has gone insane!
How is it compared to a tahoe z71?is it worth the extra money?
I still don’t understand why GM won’t let you spec Yukon AT4 with 3.0 Diesel
Longer engine (straight 6) plus big intercooler in front of the radiator with a smaller front bumper for off-road clearance means there genuinely may not be enough room for it.
I really like what GM has done with their SUVs. I have been driving GM trucks since 1988 and had great luck with them.
Unfortunately GMs quality and reputation have been tanking for years with no end in sight. I would certainly hesitate to purchase another truck from them.
I hope my 2010 lasts another 250k.
GM builds the best looking, highest featured large SUV with the Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade, but they remain so unreliably made that you end up in the shop far more often than you should from my experience. Never own one again.
Cool engine but not so much with gas prices rising.
I would love to see this GMC in my garage. I can’t believe GMC Hummer has Labron James in their new commercials.
Is the new 2.7 online 4 available 315hp 420lbs would be perfect engine....for mpg and low end offroad torque.
GM still doesn't know how to make plush seats
These are actually pretty good! Plush seats wear out faster IMO
I would only consider the 3.0l diesel if the bugs have been sorted out.
Nice rig but no. I'll stick with the full size pick ups.
Well if I could afford it I would get one. I love that car. But I’m just a poor old truck driver so guess I’ll stick with my 2001 Yukon
They just keep making it bigger
With 1400 lb payload, carrying (6) 200lb passengers will only leave you with 200lbs for cargo. Put a cargo box on top filled and your near the limit which doesn’t give you any room for a trailer. Even without cargo, there is no remaining capacity for a trailer. Something to think about if you imagine packing the inside with all your friends or family and expect to pull something.
Pretty much what you get with any well equipped full size SUV out there. Would have to go with a base trim in 2wd to add another 300lbs payload.
It doesn’t matter what features you add on a GM, until they fundamentally change them from a government supported union shop to a free market company that depends on the market to survive, buying one will be a crapshoot. Might as well buy a Range Rover.
Looks great but 80k just to get destroyed at the pump as well is no go
AWESOME SUV!
Thank you for a detailed review!
looks fantastic 👌.
Need it in a xl version
I love my Yukon at4. So, yeah I think it’s great.
That's why I bought one Monday!! So in love!
Which is better at4 or denali?
Is the change reliability????
damn very nice, gets almost the same mpg as my moms new highlander 😵💫
80,000$ ? Insane
Those A-arms are a reason of alot of people like me to consider buying Toyota landcrueier instead of At4 or Z71.
Nice looking SUV.
I like these... I could just never pull the trigger on buying one. I know they sell a ton of them, but they just seem to be overpriced. I'd like a bare bones off-road version... I just don't need all the fancy stuff like a sun roof and cooled seats...
Honestly the push button turns me off ... a proper trans selector , good tires and a diesel would make it great
I skipped the AT4 and went with the Yukon Denali XL for the family hauler. I like the interior stitching and the overall look but I don’t think we would benefit from any of the off-road tech on such a big vehicle. I have other trucks/Jeeps than we can take off-road.