I Have followed Johns story for a while now. Read Alone at Dawn. As an Infantryman for 8 years (2001-2009) and Iraq War Veteran, the fact that Britt Sablinski got the MOH that really should have been Chapmans… and YEARS went by before this ever came to Light. Its very troubling. No I was not Spec Ops. Yes I was an Infantryman, Yes I spent 12 months in combat operations in the Baghdad AO in 2005, and as Scared as I ever was, as much as there was times I wanted to just Not suit up and go out, I did it every time. I can sit here and say you NEVER leave a fallen Comrade. Period. Let alone 2 of them.. (Seals had no idea if Neil Roberts was alive either). And they Left the Mountain without Either of them. Shameful. Fucking shameful.
Britt Sablinski should have not accepted that medal. Other than they get got run out of the objective by the enemy, I do not see the reason he got it. Ok, so he led his team off the "x" and away from the objective (while leaving a live teammate alone). How is that different from what many infantry combat veterans did over and over again in countless firefights in Iraq and Afghanistan? Britt got it, simply so that the SEALs did not look like cowards in contrast to what Chapman did in the face of the enemy. Downright shameful exercise in politics.
@@MVK_GS i dunno what Infantry guys your talking about? Cite me an example, Unit, date, and time of an Infantry Unit leaving Live teammates on top of a Mountain.
This. Red Wings. Exhibit A of SEALs poor planning creating a shitshow. Losing lives in a completely avoidable way. Then damage control and manufacture narratives post event. It's no suprise, that both events got a SEAL a Medal of Honor to help cover everything up.
@REPR100 Same with Axel one of the seals killed that was in Lone Survivor movie. They found him 10 days after the fight but was only dead maybe a day in a half tops.
How are they going to make a movie based on John Chapman's actions without destroying the image of Seal team 6? They left him and one of them got the MoH for that. Yes, absolutely 'Alone At Dawn" is a story that needs to be told, but why was Chapman alone? The answer to that is why I don't see how the DOD let's this story be told.
Film need to made BECAUSE it will put Jocko and others back in their box. Their whole honour and hardmen eating nails who should get 50k+ a time teaching on good leadership and organisational ethos(!) is a travesty and their fake personas need puncturing. I'm afraid team 6 needs a clean up.
John Chapman is one of the most amazing courageous men to ever live. The drone vid is amazing and heartbreaking all at once. Every man has to wonder would I have the courage to do that. Big beef w the Navy on this one that held up his MOH! If anyone deserved one John did. RIP to a great warrior.
The only thing that HELPED Chapmen was the drone..That POS SEAL team commander that got the CMH....FUCK HIM...He was trying to cover his own sorry ass. He did nothing to help Chapman.
He deserves MOH not Slabinski his a piece of crap that got kicked out DEVGRU for doing less than honorable things. Because of the Navy Classification want allow him a MOH . Now let me qualify this with I am former Ranger and retired US Army from SF group ( not a SF tabed but support) . My best friend I went to HS with was Navy Seal Team 2 Mills . The Navy has screwed this up to cover up one of their own . This is why the Navy needs to clean up Devgru or what ever they call it now 10:30 . In SOF community there are several Seal 6 stories that aren’t good well known. On the other hand their is No stories of Air Force SOF guys doing anything bad their all great guys . My thoughts and opinions on this story . I will listen but makes my blood boil every time I hear this story I’m glad he finally got it . 6:56
I like how you worded that. amazing AND heartbreaking! Ive watched it so many times and I just end sad every time. He's an incredible human being and the definition of a superhero.
He's right. The USAF sucks at promoting battlefield heroism. I had a squad get denied the USAF Combat Action Medal but still earn the Army Combat Action Badge and two Purple Hearts.
Hell, the Air Force and Navy both suck at promoting people. Folks retire from both after 20 years as an E-6 who never got into trouble and did their job very well.
There is one sentence in the wikipedia article about John Chapman that really gets me: "He is credited with saving the lives of the entire rescue team."
I have 2 AF security forces troops who recieved closed head injuries due to mortars in Iraq and the AF refused to award Purple Hearts to them despite them still suffering the effects and both are medically recorded. But any C130 pilot who flies near a battle gets a bronze star.
So to preface, I’m a prior enlisted Army Infantry Officer. Now that I have climbed the ranks and gotten to a position that I can actually see the corruption and fucking craziness that goes on in the higher echelons of the military, it’s mind boggling. Like he was saying, people trying to thwart the CCT’s MOH. I’ve seen it first hand. Not the Medal of Honor, but other awards and commendations that were truly earned on a combat deployment. I saw us internally fight a higher headquarters for our Soldiers to get the recognition they deserved. Like he was also saying, it was no secret what they had gone through. We had literal unbiased intelligence reports, sworn statements, the whole 9, just for SEVERAL high ranking officers to refute and dismiss these events. Like for no apparent reason. Everything was written correctly and actually happened. And I know of this happening all across the Army during GWOT. It is absolutely insane to me. In this instance, ITS ON VIDEO, and they still have the fucking audacity to fight it. It is what it is. What happened, happened.
Happened to my friend Rob Kirk in Cco 1/87 Inf 10th Mountain in Somalia for recovering bodies from Courage 53 in Somalia a week before BHD. Dale Schrader got a silver star, one soldier got an arcom. They got CIBs saving Rangers 30 years later for BHD. Definitely needs to stop. There's news footage and Dale Schrader does talks so it did happen. 🤣
I think they can tell the story truthfully, and just condemn the individuals of devgru, not all if devgru, the navy, or seals as a whole. Also it would shed light on the 24th sts of the Air Force. People don't even know the USAF has special operations
Bro you literally have my dream job. I enlisted in the navy but started getting sick right before boot but I went on anyway. I was in a pre-buds class in Great Lakes and couldn’t walk. Turns out I had spinal cancer and never got my shot at buds or being a SEAL. I would love to interview our modern warriors. Thanks for bridging the gap between warriors and civilians!
You’re lucky. Majority of SEALs especially younger ones are punks and bullies. Lived with them in Afghanistan. Inferior to SF, CAC, PJs, UNIT, MARSOC, Rangers, etc. Some of the 40+ Chiefs, Master Chiefs, officers were decent guys.
Why did the seal team leader receive the medal of honor on the mission, who actually left John, why did he get the medal? He literally did nothing except withdraw and leave John behind!!
PLEASE do not let this movie suck…..please make it as immersive and realistic as Black Hawk Down, and Saving Private Ryan. I cannot stand how cheesy most modern war movies are. Just make it look and feel 100% authentic, no cheesy exaggeration that takes away from the seriousness of it. That’s how you tell a serious war story.
Gotta read this book. I showed up to 1/75 a couple years after Takur Ghar and we always heard about the Navy holding back recognition of what Chapman’s heroics to cover their own asses. When you hear those stories from the time you’re a private it’s hard to know what’s the whole truth. With some of the SEAL teams you work with (not all of them by any means) you can see how something like this can happen.
the Air Force hates its enlisted combat arms related service members, as if it would take away from the officers some how, its just the fact of the matter.
Hey I plan on getting the book when I have money. Does it talk more in depth about what he did after he was left. Especially the hand to hand combat engagement.
@@SugarrAyO it goes into as much detail as possible obviously it’s unsure what would’ve been running through his mind at the time but they talk about the entire context of the situation
Gid bless TSGT CHAPMAN... He was a beast and a true hero... Shame on those blocking his CMH. Being an AF vet of Somalia Bosnia Kosovo DS/Storm Enduring Freedom.. the AF is not about taking care of the NON FLYERS.. That's just their mentality. Those of us who chose AF as a career gladly volunteered/voluntold for Contingencies... are well aware of our missing documented valor... combat actions of early on to heroism... to include volunteering for AIRBORNE , AA and other schools not in our wheel house... WE WERE asked to do convoys in Iraq as we were never trained for that BUT WE DID IT ANYWAY... AF can keep those medals...we know what we did... again...if it's not winged flight bravery ... it's not news
The reason the AF does a shitty job of promoting top decorations ( especially to its enlisted) is because if it doesn't involve an Air Force academy graduate pilot, why bother. Sad but true!
& the Master Chief got the medal of Honor largely based off lies & twisted facts to spin an embarrassment to the SEALs into a hero story. It was also the first SEAL team 6 mission of the war and was an absolute shit show...so they had to spin it & bury Chapman who was the real hero
Unfortunately, that is a true statement. Air Force leadership only cares about rewarding their pilots and Air Force Academy graduates. The Medal of Honor for Sgt Pitsenbarger, the Vietnam era PJ, took 30 years and it was only approved because the Army soldiers he saved would not give up the fight. It's a friggin shame that it took 30 years for Puts MOH and 16 years for my old teammate (two different teams but not the 24 STS) John Chapman.
Why wouldn't the USAF want to show the world the heroes of the USAF? It's for many different reasons...one of these is because most are enlisted people. Another is because the individuals in question is NOT a PILOT. The USAF has problems highlighting their enlisted people. I also know that there are some pilots who don't get very much of a highlight for great stuff they've done...I'm pretty sure that in one case it's because he's not an ACADEMY GRAD. Lot's of things add up to some really deserving people NOT getting much notoriety in the USAF (and in other services).
Thank you for your service. However, in this case it was Naval Special Warfare leadership that actively fought the upgrade, because it exposed the fact that John Chapman was left behind. Such facts challenge the all-important Seal narrative. NSW was willing to sacrifice their integrity to maintain the brand.
It wasn't until Secretary of the Air Force James got involved that Chappy was even considered for the Medal of Honor. The previous Air Force leadership for 10+ years after Chappy died on Roberts Ridge did absolutely nothing to advance a MOH or even investigate whether he deserved the Medal of Honor. You are dealing with an Air Force leadership that routinely denied Bronze Stars with Valor for Combat Controllers,Pararescue (PJs) and TACPs while giving Bronze Stars to officers pulling staff / desk duty in Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and on FOBs/COBs in Iraq and Afghanistan who never even were involved in any kind of combat.
Awesome book. Just finished it an am glad I had the opportunity to learn about this great American warrior. Im not sure how anyone can watch the video and not instantly conclude that MSgt. Chapman didnt deserve the MoH.
From what I have heard was that DEVGRU were like fish out of water in the beginning of the GWOT in Afghanistan. They really didn't know what they were doing out there because they weren't trained like CAG, SF, or Ranger Battalion was in advanced infantry tactics and long term land warfare in valleys and mountains. Things have changed a lot with DEVGRU now but back then it was different.
It had nothing to do with their training or capability. It was all due to piss poor leadership of the high up officers, one specifically. Tim Simanski!
The truth is that you have no idea. None of us do, and I was SF and deployed to Afghanistan and have friends in the SEALs. Unless you were in that unit at that time, you have zero idea. Bottom line, they f'ed up that operation in the most basic way. Sad, but true.
Why the Air Force sucks at recognizing their own? That answer is pretty basic, but shrouded in Air Force secrecy. The Air Force is ALL about pilots. The saying in the Air Force is "The pilot is God's gift to the Air Force". It is a pilot's Air Force. In fact, the only Chief of Staff of the Air Force since it's inception in 1947 have only been pilots. Can the Air Force truly say it is being led by the very best and brightest it has to offer if they are only selecting from the pilot pool? So when it comes to the higher decorations for anyone NOT a pilot, there is this massive disconnect. The pilots who run the Air Force can't grasp what a ground guy in the Air Force even does. Sure, they have a general knowledge, but the specifics and the details elude them. Most can't even tell you what the pipeline is to become a PJ/CCT, etc. They have been pumped for so long that THEY are the heroes of the Air Force, that THEY simply can't let that 'hero mantle' go. They can't grasp that heroes actually exist outside the cockpit.
8:56 Secretary of the Airforce Debbie James, one thing about the Government and Military is she was not worried one bit about giving MOH’s to retired or fallen soldiers, it was her job to help with recruitment especially within a branch like the Air Force where most people don’t put Special Operations and Air Force in the same sentence even though they have CCT and they also have other tough jobs but regardless a cake eater like her has one thing in mind and that’s helping recruitment numbers especially because these past several years, numbers have gone down drastically in recruits.
It seems pretty clear he's not the biggest fan of Jake, most likely for however he approached taking another project. He emphasized "much bigger movie star" multiple times. Good. The person who you want for that movie should be a patriot and 100 percent committed to the legacy of TSgt Chapman.
I would have like to hear you talk about msgt chapman with a little more compassion this man is a national treasure. war is horrible . Rest in peace bad ass
Having a war library of 517 books, with another 226 on my phone, this is EASILY one of the Top-5 books on war, battle and the Warriors, in this case a single Warrior, that I've EVER read. This interview, while an excellent synopsis of the event and the Man, does not even come remotely close to describing either the Man or the battle!! If you read no other war/Warrior book, READ THIS BOOK!! Excellent interview👊 Continued Success🍻 RP
I'd love to compare books and see your library! This does it, I'll finally get the book. Chapman's story has been influential for many years, and I revisit the video often but for some reason have put off reading the book. Can't wait!
One of the best books I have ever read. What an amazing story of a real hero. Also what makes this so amazing is the video of him doing what he did. Look up on youtube the drone video of what happened to John Chapman. Thank you for writing the book
Other than Fearless (Adam Brown story) Alone at Dawn is the best post 911 book I’ve read. I like the way he tells the story of John snd the battle while he also tells the story of CCT. I knew nothing of CCT before this book. Tremendous book.
@@byronbass1370 I can’t put into words the exceptionality of the book, Fearless. Before I retired from the fire service, I read it during a 24hr shift and I couldn’t put it down. I was even reading it inside my ladder truck, whilst returning to the station after responding to calls. I never even made my bed at the station that night. I’ve heard so many veterans say, that the best guys are usually the ones who get killed and it certainly rings true with Adam, especially after hearing from veterans who served in the teams with him.
The Air Force only cares about PJ/CCT when it comes to commercials for recruiting enlisted thrill seekers. Those career fields are not what Air Force Officers give two shits about because they only are concerned with pilots, most accurately the fighter community. Additionally, they are blissfully unaware of what the high speed units out there are doing because they have no OPCON of them.
"smart people in Hollywood" could be the dumbest thing I ever heard.😂 More like Cho-mos in Hollywood. This came out a month ago too? Wow they got their hooks in deep in people. Dulvany will play Chapman if they make a movie they can't help themselves. Instead of Hollywood pick a religion, any or just god and spend time on that. "Smart people in Hollywood" 😂
Check out Combat Control Foundation and First There Foundation. Both of these non profits, support the CCT family. Alone at Dawn, is a great book and important story that everyone should learn. I've honestly purchased at least 10+ Alone at Dawn books and have given them away as gifts.
The two that he said he has personally seen their actions and deserving of the MOH are Delta Operators Randy Shugart and Gary Gordon during Operation Gothic Serpent. (Somalia)
Rob definitely deserves the Medal of Honor upgrade to his Air Force Cross but it will never happen as the Air Force (non) leadership figures they already gave one enlisted CCT a posthumous Medal of Honor so they are good for the next fifty years
Lots of data points that indicate the Navy is out of control and a bunch if loose canons. Ships and subs burning at the dock, Navy ships running into reefs and running into large ships that should have been obvious, fantail-ing an F-35 and pursuing the video leaks more vigorously than pursuing the stupid reason (within the officer ranks) it crashed in the first please, and finally appearing to always hide the truth. Slabinski's MOH to hide the fact that they left two men on the battle field, is the most despicable act of all. Of course they fought Chapman's medal, because it pissed on THEIR narrative that he was dead. Thus they didn't leave live men on the mountain. Navy is becoming great at hiding how much they suck...
Reading the book, seeing the footage, and playing the game based off of the entire operation, the only other time I have had this gut wrenching feeling and utter disbelief and disgust is when I saw and heard what happened on the last days of the afgan withdraw.
Playing the game?? This was not a game to these guys it was allowed real . You might be a good dude but including that it your comment is disrespectful to everyone involved.
The Air Force does suck at combat awards. I was an Air Force HH60G Flight Engineer in Afghanistan and we were told by our Commander in 2008 that even though the missions and acts we were doing on a weekly basis would have been grounds for awards back when the war started, that it was just routine now. I am not talking about routine missions. Once, our crews were prepositioned at FB Anaconda with Army SF dudes when very accurate enemy mortars starting coming in. I was in the TOC with my crew, while SF was scrambling to counterattack. I was told to take an antenna out to the mortar pits so they could communicate. I ran outside, found the mortar pit and gave them the antennae. The two dudes in the pit told me to go grab some 120mm mortars so we could start counter battery fire. So I did. We launched mortars back at the enemy and destroyed them. After we landed back at Bagram and the story got out about how I was supporting the mortar team, the talk amongst the unit was that I should get some type of recognition. I didn't care, because after that deployment was over I knew I was getting out. I had already submitted my paperwork to discharge, and my Commander knew it. He made the decision that going through the effort to write any award would be a waste of time. Our Awards and Decorations Officer, an 0-3 who I was good friends with said that was complete BS and actually wrote a line in one of my Air Medals detailing that day for posterity. TSgt John Chapman deserves every bit of the Medal of Honor, and it is criminal that it took so long.
Funny I know a dude who was up there with the rangers. The funny part is I had no idea he was there until I read the book, nor did I know he got a silver star. I’m excited for the movie as long its American Sniper or Blackhawk Down level. It has to be on that level.
Slabinski didn't deserve the MOH! He didn't storm the bunker with Chapman.. he followed far behind him up the hill! Video shows that clearly! They were all dead inside that bunker before Slab even got up there!Slabinski even made the call to leave those men behind. No leader does that! Chapman deserved two of them & Slab deserve to be dishorored!
Not many things move me emotionally, but the video of Chapman dying on his feet, fighting to protect his brothers-in-arms, gets me every time. He was a man among men. This country doesn't deserve his sacrifice.
Coming from a civilian…I watched the flir video when it came out years ago and watched all the documentary’s…NOBODY, especially civilians, could ever begin to fathom what that GREAT MAN had to go through in training, much less be in the position of the AMERICAN BADASS that he was that day! What a HERO! Most humans would’ve coward down! Amazing man!
Why wouldn't the air force want to show the world the heros the air force put out this .these men go through the toughest training there is 2 years just to get through the pipe line .there like superman who don't get the credit for the work they put in .they put there life on the line every time they go out to save someone.
Why wouldn't the USAF want to show the world the heroes of the USAF? It's for many different reasons...one of these is because most are enlisted people. Another is because the individuals in question is NOT a PILOT. The USAF has problems highlighting their enlisted people. I also know that there are some pilots who don't get very much of a highlight for great stuff they've done...I'm pretty sure that in one case it's because he's not an ACADEMY GRAD. Lot's of things add up to some really deserving people NOT getting much notoriety in the USAF (and in other services).
thing is we are in a age of info now and all guys who was in during these times we are gettting age on us and alot is coming out, im not being ugly but damn 16 years to show footage we knew was there. keep exposing truths
The word "intrepidity" is one they cut and paste into award text but, boy, did Chapman personify that description. He was an amazing fighting man when the situation required it!! Nothing but awe and respect on my part.
One of the saddest videos I have ever seen. My heart broke when you could see the seals running away ... I didn't think soldiers did that to other soldiers :(
Well let's not forget the Rangers that lost their lives that day too. Razor 2: Anderson and Goggins lost their lives that day too. However, what they did to Chapman was total BS. CCT and PJ's get my respect for what they do. They come when they are called.
One of the best stories of bravery and valor I have ever read. RIP john chapman, thanks to people like Dan, the depth of your sacrifice will be remembered
Why don't they tell about BM2s story . He was my cousin and I've heard 4 different storys.i was navy the pmc s I was around their but would like to hear the truth.
Great vid, ironically I ordered the book just last night before seeing this vid today. Glad the true story of Robert’s Ridge is getting out. Brent Tucker (Delta) has a lot of interesting info on this event and others relating to questionable SEAL narratives.
If the video is real why when they landed did Chapman head to the bunker alone the squeals don't go with Chapman it looks like they went somewhere else.these things seem to happen alot when they when you send 5 guys to do a job that 20 guys should be doing.
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Those who tried to block John Chapmans Medal Of Honor are truly un american!
It was the SEAL community who tried to block it because it would come out that they left Chapman behind.
I Have followed Johns story for a while now. Read Alone at Dawn. As an Infantryman for 8 years (2001-2009) and Iraq War Veteran, the fact that Britt Sablinski got the MOH that really should have been Chapmans… and YEARS went by before this ever came to Light. Its very troubling. No I was not Spec Ops. Yes I was an Infantryman, Yes I spent 12 months in combat operations in the Baghdad AO in 2005, and as Scared as I ever was, as much as there was times I wanted to just Not suit up and go out, I did it every time.
I can sit here and say you NEVER leave a fallen Comrade. Period.
Let alone 2 of them.. (Seals had no idea if Neil Roberts was alive either). And they Left the Mountain without Either of them. Shameful. Fucking shameful.
I concur.
Britt Sablinski should have not accepted that medal. Other than they get got run out of the objective by the enemy, I do not see the reason he got it. Ok, so he led his team off the "x" and away from the objective (while leaving a live teammate alone). How is that different from what many infantry combat veterans did over and over again in countless firefights in Iraq and Afghanistan? Britt got it, simply so that the SEALs did not look like cowards in contrast to what Chapman did in the face of the enemy. Downright shameful exercise in politics.
@@MVK_GS i dunno what Infantry guys your talking about? Cite me an example, Unit, date, and time of an Infantry Unit leaving Live teammates on top of a Mountain.
Allons brother
Not very good PR. Every time I see that CPO with the blue ribbon around his neck I lose even more respect for navy swimmers
The seals love to forget about this
This. Red Wings.
Exhibit A of SEALs poor planning creating a shitshow. Losing lives in a completely avoidable way.
Then damage control and manufacture narratives post event.
It's no suprise, that both events got a SEAL a Medal of Honor to help cover everything up.
There seems to be a lot of things they like to forget
@@josephpa05 oh but you twerps know it all 🤣 🤣
Thank you for this. The true Chapman story needed to be told (not the sanitized version).
Seals left the man behind to die alone
They thought he was dead? Is what i heard
@@thirstybonsai1888 that’s what they said but even if he was they aren’t supposed to leave him behind, this is perfect example why
@REPR100 Same with Axel one of the seals killed that was in Lone Survivor movie. They found him 10 days after the fight but was only dead maybe a day in a half tops.
How are they going to make a movie based on John Chapman's actions without destroying the image of Seal team 6? They left him and one of them got the MoH for that. Yes, absolutely 'Alone At Dawn" is a story that needs to be told, but why was Chapman alone? The answer to that is why I don't see how the DOD let's this story be told.
Film need to made BECAUSE it will put Jocko and others back in their box. Their whole honour and hardmen eating nails who should get 50k+ a time teaching on good leadership and organisational ethos(!) is a travesty and their fake personas need puncturing. I'm afraid team 6 needs a clean up.
@@hamonryechinaski180Jocko is still valid
John Chapman is one of the most amazing courageous men to ever live. The drone vid is amazing and heartbreaking all at once. Every man has to wonder would I have the courage to do that. Big beef w the Navy on this one that held up his MOH! If anyone deserved one John did. RIP to a great warrior.
The only thing that HELPED Chapmen was the drone..That POS SEAL team commander that got the CMH....FUCK HIM...He was trying to cover his own sorry ass. He did nothing to help Chapman.
He deserves MOH not Slabinski his a piece of crap that got kicked out DEVGRU for doing less than honorable things. Because of the Navy Classification want allow him a MOH . Now let me qualify this with I am former Ranger and retired US Army from SF group ( not a SF tabed but support) . My best friend I went to HS with was Navy Seal Team 2 Mills . The Navy has screwed this up to cover up one of their own . This is why the Navy needs to clean up Devgru or what ever they call it now 10:30 . In SOF community there are several Seal 6 stories that aren’t good well known. On the other hand their is No stories of Air Force SOF guys doing anything bad their all great guys . My thoughts and opinions on this story . I will listen but makes my blood boil every time I hear this story I’m glad he finally got it . 6:56
I like how you worded that. amazing AND heartbreaking! Ive watched it so many times and I just end sad every time. He's an incredible human being and the definition of a superhero.
@@samowens3I agree w u 100% as a former AF retired
We’ll said brother
Denying a family their fallen hero's Medal of Honor is about as low as it gets.
Never let this go unremembered.
It’s already been forgotten by the American People and suppressed by the media
bla bla bla sftu already 🤣
He's right. The USAF sucks at promoting battlefield heroism. I had a squad get denied the USAF Combat Action Medal but still earn the Army Combat Action Badge and two Purple Hearts.
The silent profesionals
High ranks got shiny stuff, not the ones who sacrificed. 🙏 HUA
Hell, the Air Force and Navy both suck at promoting people. Folks retire from both after 20 years as an E-6 who never got into trouble and did their job very well.
The military has become way to political in all aspects.
There is one sentence in the wikipedia article about John Chapman that really gets me: "He is credited with saving the lives of the entire rescue team."
CCTs are our military’s best kept secret. They literally do it all. RIP
They are truly a different breed.
Agreed...to me Air Force CCT, SR, TACP and PJ'S don't get enough credit.
Razor 01 pilot CW5 Greg Calvert landed the CH-47 with his wrist blown apart and spurting. All of these pilots were simply amazing aviators.
I have 2 AF security forces troops who recieved closed head injuries due to mortars in Iraq and the AF refused to award Purple Hearts to them despite them still suffering the effects and both are medically recorded. But any C130 pilot who flies near a battle gets a bronze star.
The air force hates cops or SF nowadays battlefield is for the usmc and the army
@@JamesJewell-si9iv If it's not an award for an O, an O is not going to submit or support the award. AF Officers are terribly territorial.
So to preface, I’m a prior enlisted Army Infantry Officer. Now that I have climbed the ranks and gotten to a position that I can actually see the corruption and fucking craziness that goes on in the higher echelons of the military, it’s mind boggling.
Like he was saying, people trying to thwart the CCT’s MOH. I’ve seen it first hand. Not the Medal of Honor, but other awards and commendations that were truly earned on a combat deployment. I saw us internally fight a higher headquarters for our Soldiers to get the recognition they deserved.
Like he was also saying, it was no secret what they had gone through. We had literal unbiased intelligence reports, sworn statements, the whole 9, just for SEVERAL high ranking officers to refute and dismiss these events. Like for no apparent reason. Everything was written correctly and actually happened. And I know of this happening all across the Army during GWOT. It is absolutely insane to me.
In this instance, ITS ON VIDEO, and they still have the fucking audacity to fight it. It is what it is. What happened, happened.
Happened to my friend Rob Kirk in Cco 1/87 Inf 10th Mountain in Somalia for recovering bodies from Courage 53 in Somalia a week before BHD. Dale Schrader got a silver star, one soldier got an arcom. They got CIBs saving Rangers 30 years later for BHD. Definitely needs to stop. There's news footage and Dale Schrader does talks so it did happen. 🤣
I think they can tell the story truthfully, and just condemn the individuals of devgru, not all if devgru, the navy, or seals as a whole. Also it would shed light on the 24th sts of the Air Force. People don't even know the USAF has special operations
Bro you literally have my dream job. I enlisted in the navy but started getting sick right before boot but I went on anyway. I was in a pre-buds class in Great Lakes and couldn’t walk. Turns out I had spinal cancer and never got my shot at buds or being a SEAL. I would love to interview our modern warriors. Thanks for bridging the gap between warriors and civilians!
I wish you the best my man
How are you doing now?
You’re lucky. Majority of SEALs especially younger ones are punks and bullies. Lived with them in Afghanistan. Inferior to SF, CAC, PJs, UNIT, MARSOC, Rangers, etc. Some of the 40+ Chiefs, Master Chiefs, officers were decent guys.
Hope you’re in remission my friend!
WillieT304 YOU ARE A WARRIOR!!!! 🙏🏻🤙🏼
Why did the seal team leader receive the medal of honor on the mission, who actually left John, why did he get the medal? He literally did nothing except withdraw and leave John behind!!
It’s crazy. The drone footage doesn’t lie
👍!
Because Slab lied
Should have lost rank for leaving a man behind not awarded the MOH. Disgusting.
PLEASE do not let this movie suck…..please make it as immersive and realistic as Black Hawk Down, and Saving Private Ryan. I cannot stand how cheesy most modern war movies are. Just make it look and feel 100% authentic, no cheesy exaggeration that takes away from the seriousness of it. That’s how you tell a serious war story.
Agree that Air Force sucks at formally recognizing high achievement/heroism by Enlisted troops
Yep, them fly boys want all the glory and medals.
Gotta read this book. I showed up to 1/75 a couple years after Takur Ghar and we always heard about the Navy holding back recognition of what Chapman’s heroics to cover their own asses. When you hear those stories from the time you’re a private it’s hard to know what’s the whole truth. With some of the SEAL teams you work with (not all of them by any means) you can see how something like this can happen.
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ASQD my Troop SGM watched the whole shit show and had no idea the SEALS would make a Hollywood Victory out of a complete failure
the Air Force hates its enlisted combat arms related service members, as if it would take away from the officers some how, its just the fact of the matter.
Unfortunately, that is the truth. The Air Force hates anything and anyone that detracts from the "glory" of their Academy graduate pilots.
David and Lt. Col. Schilling thank you both for the amazing interview and information with regards to this heroic American warrior.
While Dan is a gentleman and won’t say it I will.
The SEAL community and the big Navy fought against John getting the MOH.
Can confirm: Alone At Dawn is an awesome read. Actually planning on reading it again thanks to this video. Rip MSgt. John Chapman
IT'S SUPERBLY WRITTEN, KEEPING YOU ENGAGED❤❤ MY FAVORITE AUTHOR. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE MARINES AND EVERY DAY IN COMBAT. 😮😮😮😮
Hey I plan on getting the book when I have money. Does it talk more in depth about what he did after he was left. Especially the hand to hand combat engagement.
@@SugarrAyO it goes into as much detail as possible obviously it’s unsure what would’ve been running through his mind at the time but they talk about the entire context of the situation
simpletons reading hit pieces and are in awe 🤣 oohh YEA i bet he had hand to hand combat like in rush hour 😂
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Chapman was truly a man amongst men.
Seals left him, the seal should never of received the MOH. SAD......
Didn't he leave the Seals?? Watch the video....5 of the 6 goes one way..and the other takes off,,,,
Gid bless TSGT CHAPMAN... He was a beast and a true hero... Shame on those blocking his CMH. Being an AF vet of Somalia Bosnia Kosovo DS/Storm Enduring Freedom.. the AF is not about taking care of the NON FLYERS.. That's just their mentality. Those of us who chose AF as a career gladly volunteered/voluntold for Contingencies... are well aware of our missing documented valor... combat actions of early on to heroism... to include volunteering for AIRBORNE , AA and other schools not in our wheel house... WE WERE asked to do convoys in Iraq as we were never trained for that BUT WE DID IT ANYWAY...
AF can keep those medals...we know what we did... again...if it's not winged flight bravery ... it's not news
It’s sad he was left for dead and then award one of those men the MOH. 🤦🏻
The reason the AF does a shitty job of promoting top decorations ( especially to its enlisted) is because if it doesn't involve an Air Force academy graduate pilot, why bother. Sad but true!
Well it doesn’t help that the seals actively tried to prevent chapmans Medal of Honor
& the Master Chief got the medal of Honor largely based off lies & twisted facts to spin an embarrassment to the SEALs into a hero story. It was also the first SEAL team 6 mission of the war and was an absolute shit show...so they had to spin it & bury Chapman who was the real hero
Unfortunately, that is a true statement. Air Force leadership only cares about rewarding their pilots and Air Force Academy graduates. The Medal of Honor for Sgt Pitsenbarger, the Vietnam era PJ, took 30 years and it was only approved because the Army soldiers he saved would not give up the fight. It's a friggin shame that it took 30 years for Puts MOH and 16 years for my old teammate (two different teams but not the 24 STS) John Chapman.
I meant to say Pits not Puts. Stupid autocorrect and it won't let me edit my original post.
@@hectorriverajr4945Yep they even made a film on the Vietnam PJ and it was absolutely disgrace
Why wouldn't the USAF want to show the world the heroes of the USAF? It's for many different reasons...one of these is because most are enlisted people. Another is because the individuals in question is NOT a PILOT. The USAF has problems highlighting their enlisted people. I also know that there are some pilots who don't get very much of a highlight for great stuff they've done...I'm pretty sure that in one case it's because he's not an ACADEMY GRAD. Lot's of things add up to some really deserving people NOT getting much notoriety in the USAF (and in other services).
Seals left him for dead? Good choice of words for the ones that love the lime light for being excellent warriors.
What’s you do ? Green Beret ? Never talk down on men that can & have done things you could never do .
@@johnneill5960 Ok John Rambo :)
No man left behind, most of the time. Sad
@@johnneill5960 video speaks for itself, Chapman would be the only man I would go into battle with. One bad mother fucker!
Thought navy seals never leave a man behind? I thought they didn’t know he was left behind. Until they heard radio communications.
As a Air Force enlisted retiree I can tell you why no metals awarded. Pilots. That's all the Air Force cares about. Pilots.
Thank you for your service. However, in this case it was Naval Special Warfare leadership that actively fought the upgrade, because it exposed the fact that John Chapman was left behind. Such facts challenge the all-important Seal narrative. NSW was willing to sacrifice their integrity to maintain the brand.
I was referring to his question as to why the Air Force is so slow or even unwilling to try to advance metals for enlisted.
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It wasn't until Secretary of the Air Force James got involved that Chappy was even considered for the Medal of Honor. The previous Air Force leadership for 10+ years after Chappy died on Roberts Ridge did absolutely nothing to advance a MOH or even investigate whether he deserved the Medal of Honor.
You are dealing with an Air Force leadership that routinely denied Bronze Stars with Valor for Combat Controllers,Pararescue (PJs) and TACPs while giving Bronze Stars to officers pulling staff / desk duty in Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and on FOBs/COBs in Iraq and Afghanistan who never even were involved in any kind of combat.
Should of listened to Col Blaber
Awesome book. Just finished it an am glad I had the opportunity to learn about this great American warrior. Im not sure how anyone can watch the video and not instantly conclude that MSgt. Chapman didnt deserve the MoH.
From what I have heard was that DEVGRU were like fish out of water in the beginning of the GWOT in Afghanistan. They really didn't know what they were doing out there because they weren't trained like CAG, SF, or Ranger Battalion was in advanced infantry tactics and long term land warfare in valleys and mountains. Things have changed a lot with DEVGRU now but back then it was different.
Back then it was Hostage rescue and Anti Terrorist oriented.
The SMUs are definitely more uniform now.
JSOC set things up during GWOT so that that became inevitable
It had nothing to do with their training or capability. It was all due to piss poor leadership of the high up officers, one specifically. Tim Simanski!
The truth is that you have no idea. None of us do, and I was SF and deployed to Afghanistan and have friends in the SEALs. Unless you were in that unit at that time, you have zero idea. Bottom line, they f'ed up that operation in the most basic way. Sad, but true.
It's because the Air Force leadership are pilots. Notice it's the enlisted people that don't get awarded the metals
So the Navy Seal team didn't help John out at all. Do I have that right?
At some point there needs to finally be a change of culture in the SEAL community
Why the Air Force sucks at recognizing their own?
That answer is pretty basic, but shrouded in Air Force secrecy.
The Air Force is ALL about pilots. The saying in the Air Force is "The pilot is God's gift to the Air Force".
It is a pilot's Air Force.
In fact, the only Chief of Staff of the Air Force since it's inception in 1947 have only been pilots.
Can the Air Force truly say it is being led by the very best and brightest it has to offer if they are only selecting from the pilot pool?
So when it comes to the higher decorations for anyone NOT a pilot, there is this massive disconnect. The pilots who run the Air Force can't grasp what a ground guy in the Air Force even does. Sure, they have a general knowledge, but the specifics and the details elude them. Most can't even tell you what the pipeline is to become a PJ/CCT, etc. They have been pumped for so long that THEY are the heroes of the Air Force, that THEY simply can't let that 'hero mantle' go. They can't grasp that heroes actually exist outside the cockpit.
I was shocked MSGT Robert Gutierrez on got the Air Force Cross. His wound alone should of put him out of the game.
8:56 Secretary of the Airforce Debbie James, one thing about the Government and Military is she was not worried one bit about giving MOH’s to retired or fallen soldiers, it was her job to help with recruitment especially within a branch like the Air Force where most people don’t put Special Operations and Air Force in the same sentence even though they have CCT and they also have other tough jobs but regardless a cake eater like her has one thing in mind and that’s helping recruitment numbers especially because these past several years, numbers have gone down drastically in recruits.
I would like to see Bart interviewed again to see why his story was so drastically different
It seems pretty clear he's not the biggest fan of Jake, most likely for however he approached taking another project. He emphasized "much bigger movie star" multiple times. Good. The person who you want for that movie should be a patriot and 100 percent committed to the legacy of TSgt Chapman.
I would have like to hear you talk about msgt chapman with a little more compassion this man is a national treasure. war is horrible . Rest in peace bad ass
Having a war library of 517 books, with another 226 on my phone, this is EASILY one of the Top-5 books on war, battle and the Warriors, in this case a single Warrior, that I've EVER read.
This interview, while an excellent synopsis of the event and the Man, does not even come remotely close to describing either the Man or the battle!!
If you read no other war/Warrior book, READ THIS BOOK!!
Excellent interview👊
Continued Success🍻
RP
I'd love to compare books and see your library! This does it, I'll finally get the book. Chapman's story has been influential for many years, and I revisit the video often but for some reason have put off reading the book.
Can't wait!
I Bet that you have an amazing collection sir!!
I'd love to have a look at yoir reading list as well!
What a powerful statement, and one that I’m glad you wrote for us all! I’m getting the book. Thanks
Ordered. What other books are in that top 5?
One of the best books I have ever read. What an amazing story of a real hero. Also what makes this so amazing is the video of him doing what he did. Look up on youtube the drone video of what happened to John Chapman. Thank you for writing the book
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Please make sure the movie is made accurately to the incident.
Other than Fearless (Adam Brown story) Alone at Dawn is the best post 911 book I’ve read. I like the way he tells the story of John snd the battle while he also tells the story of CCT. I knew nothing of CCT before this book. Tremendous book.
Highly suggest Not a Good Day to Die, by Sean Naylor.
Fearless is so good
@@jaws945 it’s great. I’ve read it. Very good book.
@@byronbass1370 I can’t put into words the exceptionality of the book, Fearless. Before I retired from the fire service, I read it during a 24hr shift and I couldn’t put it down. I was even reading it inside my ladder truck, whilst returning to the station after responding to calls. I never even made my bed at the station that night. I’ve heard so many veterans say, that the best guys are usually the ones who get killed and it certainly rings true with Adam, especially after hearing from veterans who served in the teams with him.
@@teddy.d174 💯 percent. Iv read it multiple times. I will even read random chapters, just to get motivated
There's a lot of troubling information coming out about the SEAL community. Hopefully these allegations will be investigated.
The Air Force only cares about PJ/CCT when it comes to commercials for recruiting enlisted thrill seekers. Those career fields are not what Air Force Officers give two shits about because they only are concerned with pilots, most accurately the fighter community. Additionally, they are blissfully unaware of what the high speed units out there are doing because they have no OPCON of them.
Chapman has balllllllllls like an Elephant.. Watched the video of John is very sad at the end but this dude is a Legend if not God Status!!
I eagerly await the production of the movie.
That would be interesting. I didn't know they were planning on making a movie about it.
"smart people in Hollywood" could be the dumbest thing I ever heard.😂 More like Cho-mos in Hollywood.
This came out a month ago too? Wow they got their hooks in deep in people. Dulvany will play Chapman if they make a movie they can't help themselves. Instead of Hollywood pick a religion, any or just god and spend time on that. "Smart people in Hollywood" 😂
Interesting video. Thank you for sharing this interview. God bless 🙏
A book that’s actually true instead of the BS story of Marcus Lutrell
Seals are slowing becoming the guys that leave you behind. Never in a million years would I have ever believed that.
Superb video, well deserving of MOH, glad he finally was awarded it! Authors did a great job on book too! Well done.
Check out Combat Control Foundation and First There Foundation. Both of these non profits, support the CCT family. Alone at Dawn, is a great book and important story that everyone should learn. I've honestly purchased at least 10+ Alone at Dawn books and have given them away as gifts.
Yes both are great foundations. Thank you for putting this out there
I lost my luster for AF when they were awarding Bronze stars and awards for valor to drone pilots in Iraq.
They did that?
@@OG-uq9yb yes and stopped after outcry from vets
Nice....Been connected witb Dan for several years...NICE JOB!
John Chapman is the perfect example of why they've always called us "The Quiet Professionals"
By the way Dans book is riveting he is an excellent writer hats off to Dan!
He was left behind!
The two that he said he has personally seen their actions and deserving of the MOH are Delta Operators Randy Shugart and Gary Gordon during Operation Gothic Serpent. (Somalia)
11:25 Rob Gutierrez seems like such a humble person. His stories are truly unbelievable. I would love to drink some bourbon with him!
Rob definitely deserves the Medal of Honor upgrade to his Air Force Cross but it will never happen as the Air Force (non) leadership figures they already gave one enlisted CCT a posthumous Medal of Honor so they are good for the next fifty years
A real dark eye for the Navy and the integrity of SEALs. Seals won't leave a Seal behind, but they will leave me or you behind.
Jake Gyllenhaal is not chopped liver.
Lots of data points that indicate the Navy is out of control and a bunch if loose canons. Ships and subs burning at the dock, Navy ships running into reefs and running into large ships that should have been obvious, fantail-ing an F-35 and pursuing the video leaks more vigorously than pursuing the stupid reason (within the officer ranks) it crashed in the first please, and finally appearing to always hide the truth. Slabinski's MOH to hide the fact that they left two men on the battle field, is the most despicable act of all. Of course they fought Chapman's medal, because it pissed on THEIR narrative that he was dead. Thus they didn't leave live men on the mountain. Navy is becoming great at hiding how much they suck...
Reading the book, seeing the footage, and playing the game based off of the entire operation, the only other time I have had this gut wrenching feeling and utter disbelief and disgust is when I saw and heard what happened on the last days of the afgan withdraw.
Playing the game?? This was not a game to these guys it was allowed real . You might be a good dude but including that it your comment is disrespectful to everyone involved.
Game ? What are u talking about
@@SleepySG read the original comment dude.
Thank you for the amazing content🙏🏽
The Air Force does suck at combat awards. I was an Air Force HH60G Flight Engineer in Afghanistan and we were told by our Commander in 2008 that even though the missions and acts we were doing on a weekly basis would have been grounds for awards back when the war started, that it was just routine now. I am not talking about routine missions. Once, our crews were prepositioned at FB Anaconda with Army SF dudes when very accurate enemy mortars starting coming in. I was in the TOC with my crew, while SF was scrambling to counterattack. I was told to take an antenna out to the mortar pits so they could communicate. I ran outside, found the mortar pit and gave them the antennae. The two dudes in the pit told me to go grab some 120mm mortars so we could start counter battery fire. So I did. We launched mortars back at the enemy and destroyed them. After we landed back at Bagram and the story got out about how I was supporting the mortar team, the talk amongst the unit was that I should get some type of recognition. I didn't care, because after that deployment was over I knew I was getting out. I had already submitted my paperwork to discharge, and my Commander knew it. He made the decision that going through the effort to write any award would be a waste of time. Our Awards and Decorations Officer, an 0-3 who I was good friends with said that was complete BS and actually wrote a line in one of my Air Medals detailing that day for posterity. TSgt John Chapman deserves every bit of the Medal of Honor, and it is criminal that it took so long.
Medals of honor are political many many many men that deserve it will never get it
Funny I know a dude who was up there with the rangers. The funny part is I had no idea he was there until I read the book, nor did I know he got a silver star. I’m excited for the movie as long its American Sniper or Blackhawk Down level. It has to be on that level.
USAF Pararescue and Combat Controllers never get their credit for all the lives they save.
"These things we do, that others may live."
The mottos of these units perfectly encapsulate their heroic deeds as quiet professionals.
@@ahmadmuhammadadamu7314yes indeed
Slabinski didn't deserve the MOH! He didn't storm the bunker with Chapman.. he followed far behind him up the hill! Video shows that clearly! They were all dead inside that bunker before Slab even got up there!Slabinski even made the call to leave those men behind. No leader does that! Chapman deserved two of them & Slab deserve to be dishorored!
Not many things move me emotionally, but the video of Chapman dying on his feet, fighting to protect his brothers-in-arms, gets me every time. He was a man among men. This country doesn't deserve his sacrifice.
I am reading the book ALONE AT DAWN.
Great read Bro!
Coming from a civilian…I watched the flir video when it came out years ago and watched all the documentary’s…NOBODY, especially civilians, could ever begin to fathom what that GREAT MAN had to go through in training, much less be in the position of the AMERICAN BADASS that he was that day! What a HERO! Most humans would’ve coward down! Amazing man!
ALgorithm.
Why wouldn't the air force want to show the world the heros the air force put out this .these men go through the toughest training there is 2 years just to get through the pipe line .there like superman who don't get the credit for the work they put in .they put there life on the line every time they go out to save someone.
Why wouldn't the USAF want to show the world the heroes of the USAF? It's for many different reasons...one of these is because most are enlisted people. Another is because the individuals in question is NOT a PILOT. The USAF has problems highlighting their enlisted people. I also know that there are some pilots who don't get very much of a highlight for great stuff they've done...I'm pretty sure that in one case it's because he's not an ACADEMY GRAD. Lot's of things add up to some really deserving people NOT getting much notoriety in the USAF (and in other services).
Because they’re not officers/pilots, from a retired enlisted man I saw it first hand.
Dont think you can get someone “much” bigger than gyllenhaal
thing is we are in a age of info now and all guys who was in during these times we are gettting age on us and alot is coming out, im not being ugly but damn 16 years to show footage we knew was there. keep exposing truths
I watched the Video of John Chapman Fighting on that Mountain.
The word "intrepidity" is one they cut and paste into award text but, boy, did Chapman personify that description. He was an amazing fighting man when the situation required it!! Nothing but awe and respect on my part.
It's tragic.
One of the saddest videos I have ever seen. My heart broke when you could see the seals running away ... I didn't think soldiers did that to other soldiers :(
That drone footage gives me chills. I see one badass warrior straight up kicks ass while the others run to save their own ass.
Oh imagine that seals doing something shady … I am shocked
The more “war stories” i hear the more i realize our military is amateur hour. And it was all for nothing 🤣
160th SOAR is most under decorated unit in US military. Been operating for over 50 years and not one MOH.
Marines are the worst about giving awards.
It's too bad that Jake G appears out of the running to star in the movie, as his experience playing soldiers (including as SOF) in film is invaluable.
Well let's not forget the Rangers that lost their lives that day too. Razor 2: Anderson and Goggins lost their lives that day too. However, what they did to Chapman was total BS. CCT and PJ's get my respect for what they do. They come when they are called.
One of the best stories of bravery and valor I have ever read. RIP john chapman, thanks to people like Dan, the depth of your sacrifice will be remembered
Why don't they tell about BM2s story . He was my cousin and I've heard 4 different storys.i was navy the pmc s I was around their but would like to hear the truth.
Great vid, ironically I ordered the book just last night before seeing this vid today. Glad the true story of Robert’s Ridge is getting out. Brent Tucker (Delta) has a lot of interesting info on this event and others relating to questionable SEAL narratives.
Seals aren’t as cool as they used to be
Cliff Walcott died in Somalia 160 soar pilot night stalker
If the video is real why when they landed did Chapman head to the bunker alone the squeals don't go with Chapman it looks like they went somewhere else.these things seem to happen alot when they when you send 5 guys to do a job that 20 guys should be doing.
Hey man, I have listed to close to a 100 books according to my Audible, yours is the by far the best one yet. You have something to be proud of..