'I'm a committed anthem booer' | Why Liverpool fans boo | Ugly origins of 'Scouser'
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- Football writer Tony Evans joined Joe Molloy on Monday's Off The Ball to explain why Liverpool fans chose to boo the national anthem at Saturday's FA Cup final in Wembley stadium.
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Let's be honest, the media have destroyed this world.
Well said, the media are absolute dogshit
Very true
I would say that the British Establishment, who created our media, are trying to control, and are succeeding, our world not destroying it.
@@kevinjewitt6347 The world quite frequently destroys itself, nature is not the tell-lies-vision which has only been around 100 years, just look at how many f**k up size volcanoes have gone off in the past 1000 years? The huberis ridden ego of mankind is a joke.....
@@kevinjewitt6347 th-cam.com/video/C3fq2UyFMlE/w-d-xo.html
Never met a Scouser I didn't like and never had a bad time on Merseyside. A gem of a city with the most socially and politically literate of people. As a native of County Durham I take my hat off to you.
Cheers and well said!
In
I'm a scouser and I've met many I didn't like 😂
Seriously though, the point is there are d*ckheads wherever you go or live, we're just normal people who have been demonised by the Tory press and a lot of Sun reading idiots have swallowed it hook line and sinker.
Well said mate 👍
So why you still live here ?
From a newcastle fan i totally stand behind the liverpool fans and from this house in the north east along with many YOU WILL NEVER WALK ALONE ❤
👏👏❤️👍
Yet another reason to love Geordies.
Tribalism
Clearly don't understand the meaning of Geordie if your happy with national anthem being disgraced..I bet the Newcastle fan is plastic
@GPF yeah plastic for the last 41years, now go away and stand by everything I said.
I’ve was born and bred in London , but I have every respect for Liverpool , the way they stood up to the sun newspaper after Hillsboro , and I think this is all rooted in that day the way the old bill , which is the powers that be ,,blackballed Liverpool for no other reason but to cover up the crime of sending those people to die , They will never forgive them for that and I support them if it means booing the royals so be it
Sending those people to die? 🤔
So you are saying that the fans at Hillsborough didn't want to go and were forced to go there under duress??
You're saying that the whole thing was deliberately staged to kill football fans??
🤔🤔🤔 Give your head a good wobble, see if it stays on
Instead of booing the royals How about booing the police in Rotherham
I see the trolls have turned up to ruin your thread, mate.
Hear, hear! From a Glaswegian.
@@paulcarruthers8646 Not Mutually exclusive
Tony, I am working class, of Cornish background. I assure you no one I know hates the city of Liverpool. I personally admire the way Liverpool people stand up for themselves, and I can well understand the booing. The working class in Britain is being screwed. There is more of this to come.
@Danny Buck May I ask where did it happen ? Just curious mate.
What is working class these days though Nigel? When plumbers and sparks earn more than most graduates?
@Danny Buck I think it's this false sense of victimhood that people with your accent seem to wallow in is one of a few reasons why you're disliked.
Typical pro-scouse media all of a sudden treating scousers as some kind of worthy moral judges of society in general.
Liverpool as a city is not uniquely hard done to, any more than any working class area of the North, even large parts of the South too I might add. Maybe if you stopped behaving in that manner, people would not react in kind.
@@danieldurchtechnik6804 Not sure if you are providing a working example ironically or completely oblivious to it.
@@danieldurchtechnik6804 Hi Daniel. Could you provide some examples of Liverpool people having a "false sense of victimhood" and "wallowing" in it. I have not seen displays of this. I've seen anger towards corruption and cover- ups (Hillsborough), being alienated (managed decline), mocked for the legacy of the irish famine and being one of the lowest income cities in England (feed the scousers).
Whose narrative are you responding too. The medias? I certainly don't know of any scousers that revel in victimhood or wallowing.
Could you articulate why you feel and think this way. Thanks.
I love Liverpool from a Glaswegian. Responsible for some of the best bands ever. Great bunch of people and have soul.
Tony Evans is a great example of why the rest of the country thinks we in Liverpool are just a pile of victims. I am from Liverpool and i think he is talking crap! The mental gymnastics he has to do to link these completely unrelated events to the national anthem are amazing. These silly middle ages men crying about things that happened 100 years before they were even born and taking offence! Get a grip! The reason Liverpool is the way it is today is because of these militant left wing permanently offended types who are stuck in the 80s ! And since when was it offensive to be called a scouser? First time ive ever heard that. Also i would like to say that having 1 Irish ancestor 150 years ago does NOT make you Irish!
Well said mate, it’s the same in Glasgow
You're not offended by the booing?
Well said mate. The 'othering' of Liverpool. Pffttt!
Everything you say is true.
Spot on
£12m of our hard earned money to clear prince andrew is one good reason to boo the national anthem!
if you're from Liverpool you haven't paid any tax in your life.
@@petemitchel5622 Love when a thatcher worshipper criticises people for not paying tax whilst trying to destroy every publicly funded agency in the country. Are you a millionaire who benefits from these policies or are you a muddled and confused codger who can't shake off their conditioning?
The Queen's personal money and nowhere near 12 million
@@petemitchel5622 sh#tbag
@@petemitchel5622 Wow what a great new joke.. like your mum
There were no slums and poverty anywhere else in the country in the 17 -18 hundreds obviously ,and liverpool vote unanimously for the Labour Party, who've abandoned the working class decades ago !!
Well said. The people of Liverpool can't be fooled. The best community in England. Not our King. A £250 million party for London, what about the homeless. hungry and ill. He could solve this overnight.
You are aware the Monarchy technically makes your taxes cheaper because they pay the Government all the earnings off their estates in return they get a fixed salary if you did some research on it you would realize you are wrong
Youre not in England 😂
Aww diddumms, do you want a DWP flavoured dummy to soothe your hurt feelings?
We have been fooled for the past 30 years by the Labour P@r@sites in Liverpool City Council
Having observed the best and the worst, scousers are no different to anyother parts of country. Riff raff and gold .
The way liverpool have been treated by Thatcher or the media or the government in general. This is definitely the right reaction to the coronation of a plastic "king". Liverpool are saying what the rest of the country is thinking.
Is that why a Gazillion billion trillion million people queue’d up to pay last respects? Imbecile.
I wonder why ?
Bindippers
For your information 91% of the UK population want the monarchy to remain, you need to get educated.
Thatcher’s government came to an end about 60 years ago, you professional victims are an utter embarrassment to the city the region & the country. Why don’t you emigrate to a Republic like Russia or China, don’t worry you can return to sign on for your benefits every 2 weeks.
The Way Prince Andrew has disgraced himself, does royalty expect a us to clap and salute.
Oh . I didnt realise that he had been found guilty ?
@@andym9571 guilty as sin mate
@@minnietoby of what exactly ?
@@andym9571 underage sex, why didn’t he go to the US to answer questions, because he would be detained that’s why, his interview on BBC SAID EVERYTHING, there is photographs with the woman he said he never met, she has sworn an affidavit on their meeting, & there has been a Huge settlement out of court, anyone else and they would have been extradited long ago, but because he’s part of a privileged bloody lot of parasites he’s still here. One law for the rich I’m sure you’ve heard that.
@@andym9571 He won't be. Or not guilty.
What about them poor Italians that died becase of the liverpool supporters. It makes me mad how they brush that under the carpet and I am a scouser born in Walton but moved to Newcastle 30 yrs a go
Congratulations on finding the promised land. 👍
What Italians are you referring to? I'm probably too young to know what you're talking about. Elaborate, please.
@@patcom1013 heysel stadium 39 mostly juventus fans died and hundreds injured becase of Liverpool supporters charging. Can you look it up and get back
@@stevieboy2539 true 100% I remember that . I watched it unfold all them bodies laying there and the Liverpool fans throwing stuff at the fans lots of women and children to so sad 👍
You do know that the trouble was started by the Italians though? Liverpool were being attacked outside the stadium all day long. I think the unfortunate Italians who died though were innocent families not hooligans, they were in an area where you could buy neutral tickets.
If you don't believe me, read about all of the English/Birtish fans who have been attacked by Italians over there, and even over here.
Sorry to say but that's the truth.
Before Heysel Liverpool supporters didn't have a reputation for hooliganism.
Leeds, Man Utd, West Ham etc did.
Some Liverpool fans went on the rob in Europe but they didn't have a big hooligan problem.
Hooliganism in Italy is 1000 times worse than it has ever been in England. There have been quite a few deaths over there.
I would boo the national anthem why? Because I have no loyalty or respect for the royals. So given that context I feel not compelled to sing the national anthem.
Why should anyone sing a National Anthem in praise of a family? An anthem is for the country NOT a family. Time we actually got an anthem that recognises the country, the people of the country and the sacrifices made by the people of this country. Well done Liverpool.
Too true. And a family who gets paid millions (or is it billions??) every year from the public purse let's not forget. insane it is. Social benefits for the very richest no less.
@@beertrixpothead5809 It's harmless pageantry that actually brings in more money to HM treasury than we pay in.
@@hmq9052 Tell that to people who live on crown estates in Cornwall.
@@stevemcmahon9559 Ok. Will do. I was there in '88 by the way when Vinny Jones went through you.
@@hmq9052 I hope that was an attempt at a poor joke. You do realise there's more than one Steve McMahon in the world?
Fair play to Liverpool for booing an anthem that has nothing whatsoever to do with our country but instead is about an elite family. This country deserves a national anthem, not a song about glorifying royalty.
Jerusalem
Land of Hope and Glory has a great bit for chanting.
@@colinturner4158 Rugby has that.
Why? Keep your indifference to the nation on a ballot papers and or local elections. Bringing it to a football is wrong, Politics in sports is NOT wanted. Sport is the arena where fans go to forget the politics and disputes of the day, don't bring it to football, tennis, golf or any sports. Keep politics to yourself. Ruined a day for fans, TV and worldwide audiences. The UK is trying to sell British football to the world and this is what they get British fans booing the national anthem, what;s next the return of football hooliganism? Wind your necks in and stop hissing people off with political BS at football, including BLM crap.
@@darrellpowell6042 Come off it! "Ruined a day for worldwide audiences??" The game was memorable for all the right reasons...and Liverpool were the main reason. Muppet.
Socialists watching millionaires kick a ball around for billionaires 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Perfectly put 👌🏼
Very perceptive comment.
People should be happy the people of England haven't taken the French route to dealing with the megarich who walk all over the working folk of their country.
I'm a proud Scouser and a Liverpool fan. I served in the Royal Marines for 14 years. The booing of our national anthem is spitting on the graves of my fellow comrades who gave their lives for this country. You have made me ashamed to be a Scouser. SHAME ON YOU!
they do not represent the city. Liverpool is diverse and full of all different types of people so be proud not ashamed
Understand why!
@@johnburns4017 why? please enlighten me
@@johnnyt1588
Liverpool was set out to have a population 5 or 6 times its current size. There is no reason why Liverpool cannot rise to be a Munich or Barcelona as its once was. Commercial cities, like Liverpool, tend to be large.
In the 1960s when the metropolitan counties were being worked on, it was obvious that south Lancashire and parts of north Cheshire should be split between the two big cities in the region. That would have meant pretty even populations of the two proposed counties of Merseyside and Gtr Manchester. That did not occur. The initial plan for "Merseyside" was cut by 40% in area, to the point "Merseyside" did not even cover the whole of the banks of the Mersey estuary. Southport only came into Merseyside because they insisted on being in. The government were insisting the word "Liverpool" was not in the title. Even back then in the early 1970s, the Ted Heath Tories were engineering the "decline" of Liverpool. The Thatcher Tories tried to finish the city off.
The city looked ahead and proactively did the right things in the 1960/70s, rapidly changing with the times forming a mixed economy and continuing as a predominately commercial city as well. Liverpool was not a one industry industrial vertical sector city volatile to the whims of world markets. The city put in all the essential building blocks to seamlessly move to the next stage. All were looking highly optimistically to the future.
*1)* The city opened a rapid-transit underground urban rail network.
*2)* The city centre had large parts rebuilt.
*3)* New hotels were being built.
*5)* New large office blocks being built.
*6)* Private housing was being built all over the city region.
*7)* The world's largest residential block was built in the city in 1966.
*8)* Motorways were being run into the city from many angles.
*9)* An outer city loop motorway was being built.
*10)* A new expensive Mersey road tunnel was opened in 1971, supplementing the existing road tunnel, running right onto a motorway, effectively giving a motorway serving the city centre directly.
*11)* The city opened a massive new container dock, the country's largest, only 5 years after the first container ship docked in Britain, accommodating the world's largest container ships at the time, in preparation of the coming shift in shipping patterns.
*12)* Car factories had set up in the city (manufacturing, not the city's traditional business) to mix the economy.
*13)* The city was expanding the airport to claw back its previous liner passenger trade.
*14)* The Air Ministry ran the airport from WW2. The city had the best airport in Britain in 1945, the London based Air Ministry neglected it and after protests only handed it back to the city in 1961, after Manchester stole the lead in people shifting - Liverpool's traditional business.
*15)* Banking and insurance was big in the city with some of Britain's biggest insurance companies based in the city, giving the city a large financial services sector. Some banks in New York originated in Liverpool. Brown comes to mind (William Brown St). The Post Office Giro Bank was established in the city.
*16)* Passenger rail links were extensive in the region and nationwide. The first Inter-City train actually left Liverpool in 1966.
*17)* The city was well represented in music and the arts with a world-wide reputation being viewed as the pinnacle of popular music.
The city had a positive world-wide reputation all around.
Yet in a few years this commercial city was destitute, when Thatcher came to power. Ask why.
It is understandable why. The Tories are still doing _Managed Decline_ of Liverpool. Look at the *public* money poured into adjacent Manchester, while little goes to Liverpool. The Tories are so dumb, they do not realise that Liverpool is the only deep water port of that coast and cannot be wished away.
*1)* HS2 is fully going to Manchester. Not one nut & bolt of HS2 goes within 20 miles of Liverpool.
*2)* The Tories took the BBC to Manchester when Liverpool had an established film industry, with superior dock locations for studios. Liverpool were not allowed to even submit a bid.
*3)* The Tories spent a lot of money extending Manchester's trams. They have spent near nothing on extending Liverpool's Merseyrail metro - the city desperately needs it extending. There is about 4 miles of tunnel, and a large underground junction south of Central station, about 10 miles of trackbed awaiting tracks & trains that was planned to be built in the 1980s. Thatcher cancelled one third of it, including a six-platform underground parkway station at Broad Green. The Tories have given money to build a station on the outskirts of Kirkby - big thrill.
*4)* Direct flights to Heathrow from Liverpool, despite being well used, were cancelled which promoted Manchester airport. The Liverpool-London and Liverpool-Manchester lines run adjacent to the airport, yet no HMG money to build a station at the airport.
*5)* Government paid to electrify the rail line from Southampton to the Midlands, to improve the port's access. Liverpool has only one diesel line into the whole port, when it had nine at one time. The rail alignments are mainly still there. No money forthcoming to improve the port's rail access, keeping it at a disadvantage.
*6)* etc.
Liverpool 2 container terminal was built with *private* money.
Tony Evans says people from Liverpool are despised and if they all argued like him that would be understandable. Fortunately I'm from Liverpool and I know we are not all like him.
A very well balanced man with a chip on each shoulder.
The city of Liverpool has more in common with Dublin and Glasgow than London
That is pure horse crap.
No we dont, lots of morons in liverpool think they are Irish because they have an Irish ancestor from 150 years ago but one Irish great great grandparent doesnt make you Irish.
@@bighands69 Unfortunately it isn't.
Us Glaswegians get a bad press too but maybe deserved right enough haha.
Couldn't agree more
This explanation of why Liverpool fans booed is pretty good.
As a scouser myself (but not a football fan), I've lived and worked all over the UK and many places around the rest of the world. I found the attitude from a significant minority towards scousers in the UK, especially in the south to be utterly disgusting and completely undeserved.
Calm down ,calm down
It’s not a scousers people are offended by, it’s the shell suits……
Sorry Sid, i lived in the South and a part of where i was living was known as little Liverpool by the Sea. If you were looking for drugs you went there or the Scouse bar in the town. Lovely people the Liverpudlians but don't go saying that its completely undeserved cause its not.
Why? Keep your indifference to the nation on a ballot papers and or local elections. Bringing it to a football is wrong, Politics in sports is NOT wanted. Sport is the arena where fans go to forget the politics and disputes of the day, don't bring it to football, tennis, golf or any sports. Keep politics to yourself. Ruined a day for fans, TV and worldwide audiences. The UK is trying to sell British football to the world and this is what they get British fans booing the national anthem, what;s next the return of football hooliganism? Wind your necks in and stop hissing people off with political BS at football, including BLM crap.
Day doo tho dont de tho.
I’m a Man Utd fan but have to admire the people of Liverpool for standing up for what the believe in. Just because we are born and bred British doesn’t mean we have to support the Royal Family. I always boo the Royals, the establishment who have been shafting the working class for years. So big shout out for the scousers and never say die attitude.
but would u support those who boo taking the knee, a gesture forced upon the UK by BLM , a far left marxist con that have stolen million of pounds from people around the world , an org that dont care about black people at all but a few black people that can cause political upset ? You support the booers of BLM and taking the knee then? Good lad
Nice one
Well done Liverpool fans, working class people all over the world are being trampled on by the powers that be!
Monarchy lickspittles so raging🤣🤣🤣
Stay in your own country and be working class.
dont live here then mugs
Self pity city, always blaming someone else
You have been read the Sun and the Daily Mail.
Get those crumbs off your belly, your mom isn't coming to the basement to do it for you
Your obviously a sheep.
As someone with Irish and English ancestry I remain neutral and balanced, Liverpool are a rich club from England 🇬🇧 but equally enjoy Irish support, for mine the best of both worlds 🌎
That's not an English flag
@@J.D.1. Some people don't have the English flag as an emoji.
Thing is, I do 🏴
Booing any countries national anthem is totally disrespectful let alone their own one. I am of Irish descent and have been to plenty of Ireland v England rugby matches and have never heard the anthem booed. Unfortunately some people think differently
Agree entirely 😉 But then Rugger is a game with crazy concepts like total respect for the referee, a sense of fairplay, no rolling around like you’ve been shot by a sniper and fans that can share craic and have a beer together without the desire to maim one another!! 😁 It’ll never catch on!! 😳😳😂😂😉
Nowhere near as bad as pitch invasions and assaulting players.
Get it in perspective.
@@decodeco4021
I remember soccer matches being like that in the 50's
Then Liverpool got promoted in 1960 and kick started hooliganism !!
Something that doesn't exist saving the the most privileged person on the planet. Update needed.
The anthem doesn't deserve respect
Man City fans boo a minutes silence for the 97 Liverpool fans lost at Hillsborough, the ref has to cut it short and nothing
Utd fans chant about the S#n newspaper at Anfield and nothing
Liverpool fans boo the national anthem and there's a media frenzy and meltdown
I'm a City fan totally agree with you.
@@airborneassassin6588 fair play. A proper fan👏🏼
If the Tories get outraged at something it generally means it’s a good thing and we should keep doing it.
F off to the irish league then. Always the victims
Why don't they boo John Henry and his board members for implementing a furlough scheme brought forward by Tories or Is it while Liverpool win things they'll keep quiet..no problem with the booing just don't want double standards
Good on the Liverpool fans 💚👏👏👏
Thank you!
As a Manc I live on Merseyside I can remember the absolute devastation we all felt after the deaths of the fans. Then in the papers a short while later, out comes the truth like the Sun phrased, but we knew football fans are not of that ilk.
When it came to the Hillsborough disaster the media jumped the gun because of the past behaviors of Liverpool fans and it was assumed that the fans were to blame.
Many at the time wanted to know why thousands of Liverpool fans gathered outside the stadium and pushed their way in.
They didn't push their way in, the doors were opened on the orders of the police. If they had done their job and blocked the central paddock and diverted the fans to other two paddocks the disaster would not have happened then. But it would of happened sooner or later.
What's the difference between a cow and a tragedy? Scousers can't milk a cow.
Heysel Stadium disaster.
@@derekbramell8177
I stood on the Leppings Lane terrace three seasons running in the early eighties with CFC.
When you come through the turnstiles the first thing you see is the central tunnel taking you to the middle pen's, the other two entrances to the side pen's are not even in your sight lines they are so far wide, when the police opened those gates it was pretty obvious to me from my experiences there that virtually everyone is going to gravitate towards the middle tunnel.
Poor decision making by senior policemen totally to blame.
He has not mentioned why England was banned from Europe
English fans got banned because football had a problem. Liverpool fans where not that problem.
And before you try to mention what I know you want to mention. Try to look at the facts and what happened.
@@tinyplanet_360 give us the facts about this incident then? I saw a video from Mark Lawrenson saying why do Liverpool fans not discuss this like they do so vocally other other incidents? Enlighten us, like fans do on the other matters with such detail, they don't say look at the facts on those. As no doubt you would only believe a narrative that suits your view, I'm genuinely intrigued.
@@spencermckee9650 I’m not here to give history lessons. But let’s all agree that football across Europe had huge problems with sections of fans. On that day fans where not separated we’ll enough and the ground was an absolute mess to the point of metal bars being left lying around. The fans both gave each other grief and went back and fourth. At one point Liverpool fans charged towards the Juve fans and then…… the f**kin ground collapsed. That is what killed those fans.
We should never have had these situations in football games. The only way I can ever defend the state of grounds or the fans themselves is by saying it was just a different era. I mean Heysel was 37 years ago so pretty much 4 decades ago. We can easily talk about how football has changed lots over the last 15 years on the pitch so we need to be accepting of what it was like 40 years ago off it.
We live, we learn, we grow. It’s horrible that these things happened and that it took things like this for football to change but it has changed and for the better.
So again in reply to the comment I originally replied to. Fans didn’t get banned just because of this. Fans got banned because we had bad fans across the board. It’s just a shame that it takes so much convincing over so long to show people the truth. What I’ve said is correct. Liverpool fans didn’t murder anyone. I’m not disgusted at Liverpool fans or fans of any team I’m disgusted at horrible people.
I’ve seen the interview with Mark Lawrenson and I can’t comment as to why those players don’t talk about it. I can imagine fans naturally talk about hillsborough more because it was our own fans. Just as you’d talk more about your own family members you’ve lost over other peoples.
I genuinely don’t think I’m believing a narrative that suits my view. I do believe on occasions like Hillsborough or the final in Paris that fans will turn up without tickets and try to get in. I don’t agree with that one bit and I’d never turn up without a ticket. But again that happens everywhere for all events, it’s not exclusive to football games. And that doesn’t mean anyone should lose their life or that the people in charge should get away with blatant lies over mistakes they made.
This whole conversation stems from booing the national anthem. I can’t understand people saying Liverpool fans are so wrong to boo. I can’t understand singing god save our queen. Fictional man save our unelected leader ……. There’s not one ounce of that I’ll ever sing lol.
He ran out of time lol
@@andrewdavy9921 and yours should be Andrew Divy.
You’ve wrote a reply with nothing but hatred and blind ignorance. It’s clear from what you’ve said that you are the animal.
If we're not allowed to express our discontent with an archaic, elitist institution then we truly are living in an autocracy. A great many of those Liverpool supporters have family members, friends, colleagues and acquaintances whose lives were touched by the events of Hillsborough and the subsequent appalling treatment of the families of those who died that day in 1989 by the police, the media and the government. They're putting their loyalty to their own people before the government and the Royal family - and who in their right mind would say they had their priorities all wrong?
...you got it right, the line of command, police-government... leads deffo to the royals, "my government" are the monarch's words at the speeches and the electorate is responsible there. Unite and kick out the toff thug gang.
Heysel
Imagine thinking Liverpool fans are thinking about it that deeply.
Why? Keep your indifference to the nation on a ballot papers and or local elections. Bringing it to a football is wrong, Politics in sports is NOT wanted. Sport is the arena where fans go to forget the politics and disputes of the day, don't bring it to football, tennis, golf or any sports. Keep politics to yourself. Ruined a day for fans, TV and worldwide audiences. The UK is trying to sell British football to the world and this is what they get British fans booing the national anthem, what;s next the return of football hooliganism? Wind your necks in and stop hissing people off with political BS at football, including BLM crap.
@Lee McCullough
Quite right. Most of them have no idea why they are booing. I know because I’ve asked them. Also, I’m not sure what the royal family had to do with either the Hillsborough cover-up, or how either Conservative or Labour governments have treated the city. Again, I have no idea why they also chose to boo ‘Abide with Me’. Maybe, they would be better off booing our owners. After all, they are a bunch of rich capitalists, who attempted to join the ESL, and will no doubt try again, when it resurfaces.
Why would anyone abuse family members of Hillsboro? How pointless is that?
Imagine being that person. A life so sterile that those thoughts inhabit their head.
As a lifelong Celtic fan I love Liverpool FC and their great fans. I fully understand why they boo and completely agree. YNWA.
Of course you do
Thanks matey!.
Of course an Irish loving no doubt Nicola Sturgeon disciple would love anything that is anti London.
@@ardaz1987 Just dont like hypocritical, empire building, war mongering regimes and elites. Be that Britain, Ireland, USA, Russia, Syria. Dont care what stupid flag you fly. It was a round world last time I looked. No elites, no borders, no flags, no anthems, no countries. When will humanity grow up and ditch its pathetic ambitions, vanity and ego. Don't assume Im Irish loving because I like Celtic. I like the fact Celtic were formed to help poverty stricken people, something we are going to see more of due to the above mentioned system we accept to live under and then are made to feel guilty because we dont sing an anthem to it.
@@darrenkerr3495 so we should get rid of the monarchy and get a president like Putin or Trump? Have some dignity and support peoples rights that involve peaceful non aggressive tactics. Remaining quiet when an anthem is played is sufficient if you don’t like what the anthem stands for. We have elections for removing governments. Queen Elizabeth is a gracious non political head of state that is respected around the world. The person on the receiving end of the scousers stupidity will be king one day, my king and I think he will be outstanding. GSTQ.
Is Heysel going to remain brushed under the carpet?
In what way? This was dealt with at the time in court. The people who could be identified were tried in court.
@@stevemcmahon9559 Even Mark Lawrenson on that 'two tribes' documentary called the club out for Heysel being 'brushed under the carpet' by them and they were his words, not mine.
@@Suttoner76 maybe you should start by reading a book that a everton known thug was sent to jail .And writes ever so proudly about taking part in Heysel. Thugs and outsiders who only went to games to start fights and get a buzz , and use the Liverpool fans as scapegoats . So yes I have no shame in being a victim, because this smear has gone on far to long that's why Liverpool fans boo
@@alleyhughes4529 Makes little sense this post, apart from trying to push blame elsewhere. So Liverpool fans were scapegoated over Heysel? That's a new one.Then again it's actually not as the club blamed Chelsea fans in the aftermath of that shocking night.
Love and respect from Ireland, Booing also
Irish don't boo anthems. Something the daft plastics in Liverpool are mistaken about.
Down with the parasitic lizards, booing with all me might here too !!’ 👍💪🏼
I was at the the Liverpool Chelsea 2005 Football League Cup Final in Cardiff as a neutral on a Corporate hospitality package. My introduction to the Liverpool psych . Before the game outside in a densely crowded street they were knocking a football about, which seemed like fun. There were promotional girls distributing 'Nobbys Nuts'. I watched a bloke push the girl to the ground, grab an armful of (of the free) packets from her tray and throw them into the crowd. Every packet met with a raucous cheer from the mob. During the game (José Mourinho's first final in UK), the Liverpool crowd behind the bench gave him constant abuse of the most vile and abhorrent kind. It was shocking. When Chelsea went ahead, he turned to them and put a finger to his lips. They imploded, mortally wounded, insulted and outraged. After the game in a pub we sat and watched as three Liverpool supporters stood at the bar, reached over and topped up their glasses from the pumps every time the barman turned his back and was distracted. Later on, one of them urinated at the bar, where he stood. The 'always the victim, never to blame' thing has a basis in truth, that's why it caught on. The 'never, ever forget Hillsborough but never, ever mention Heysel' thing is an example of that. Iv'e been to hundreds of football matches, but that one lives in my head. Nasty, nasty, nasty. The recent Champions League Final... The Liverpool supporters who booed the National Anthem at Wembley cried to the Nation for sympathy when the French police were heavy handed with them.
Get one thing straight mate...the always the victim shouts are based around the fight for truth and justice for the Hillsborough disaster. I've witnessed every fanbase have idiots along the way wherever I've been and I've travelled loads with Liverpool.
You’ve literally just described every fanbase 😂😂 imagine going to a game and being shocked about insults being said. Get a grip lad haha. Also hysel has a plaque by anfield. We always remember it. An Italian club tragedy in Belgium is going to be spoken about less in England. Than a tragedy that happened on these lands, and was lied about for 30 years. Nobody every brought to real justice. Nobody charged. People are still in prison today for their stupid and horrific acts at hysel. A walk that fell on juventus fans, from pressure of fighting. In a stadium that was already falling apart.
@@joshg2603 They don't listen to the facts.. annoys me the way none of them do any homework about the Heysel stadium and how most of the blame should be with the authorities
I'll say this again. Heysel was started by the Italians. They caused all the trouble during the lead up to the game. Sorry but that's the truth.
Any football supporter knows how bad Italian supporters are. They are 1000 times worse than English fans.
Unfortunately the Juve supporters who were killed were not hooligans but mostly neutrals many of whom lived elsewhere in Europe (e.g. Brussels).
One Juve supporter even had a gun.
Liverpool supporters DID NOT have a reputation for hooliganism before Heysel.
West Ham, Leeds, Man Utd had larger hooligan elements.
Sorry to hear of those incidents and as a scouser I am embarrassed that people behaved like that. There are plenty of dckheads in Liverpool just as there are in any other UK city unfortunately. Society is a mess nowadays unfortunately and it's getting worse.
Read up on the causes of Heysel though.
The French police and local youths from the outlying ghettos caused that - UEFA praised the Liverpool supporters and said they probably saved lives.
The Real Madrid supporters also experienced bad things but not as bad as the Liverpool supporters because the Liverpool supporters came from a different route where all of the Parisien "youth" of North African extraction were wiating to mug them.
There are many other parts of the country that have been treated worse and left to rot by the government than Liverpool. Merseyside doesn't do to badly in comparison they just cry louder and more often.
where? Thatcher discussed a "managed decline" of the city. It was a deliberate policy.
tell me another city in the Uk which the Tories deliberately drove down?
Had a conversation with Liverpool fan today who explained the reasons why Liverpool fans boo the national anthem. Found it interesting so I have gone an educated myself and totally understand why they boo it.
Well can you explain
@@ronm9101 Well...you see that thing at your fingertips, you could you know, well ...
The boo because they as a city have had a rabble of Marxist Unionists that are now dominating the city.
The Labour party runs Liverpool yet many in Liverpool will act as if the Conservatives are the problem.
Marxist actually hate the very idea of culture, country and do not believe borders. Leeds used to have the same problem but that is now starting to change.
@@bighands69 yous need to join Scotland along with the rest of the north of England
London looks after London
The rest of us are just cogs in a wheel ✌
@@thebillryan Hahahahahaha
Well balanced chap. Chip on both shoulders.
Stop snivelling Andrew and go off and clean Camilla's car !!
@@jonnobloggs8642 What a stupid comment - Jonno Bloggs - you are clearly no intellectual - Jonno
No chips on shoulders just has the guts to say it like it is how is the king of fools
You do deserve to get your jaw spun
That did make me laugh though 'chip on both shoulders 'good one😂
Unfortunately Liverpool have erased Heysel from their history, they never talk about it.
Strange that it’s on the club website. There is a memorial at Anfield and they hold a ceremony on the anniversary. Very odd way to erase something isn’t it
Hillsborough was an easily preventable tragedy that killed 97, injured hundreds and traumatised thousands, blamed on our people for decades despite being clearly on the responsibility of the organisers. Heysel was the result of Thatcherite economic policies resulting in an improvised and angry people as a result of the centralisation of wealth in the upper classes. Which made them highly susceptible to something like football hooliganism, because football is the only thing thatcher hadn't managed to rip away from our city. This unfortunately resulted in a fight between 2 gangs of fans which resulted in 39 deaths. Which is on the responsibility of the murderers. Those murderers got their punishment. We where unfairly punished for decades as a people, socially and culturally, for our own people dying, and being hurt, and being traumatised. They're completely differant circumstances, and yes hilsborough is focused on more, Because of how long it took our people to get justice, and the fight that still goes on to make people realise that our people didn't cause hilsborough. Personally i find it incredibly disrespectful that people bring up events like Heysel when we're talkign about hilsborough. Saying "your tragedy doesn't matter because some people from your club killed some people from another club" as if our people don't understand and respect that. it was never erased.
@@ms.antithesis the fact is murdering scousers took the lives of 39 innocent men, women and children...... Hillsborough, as you say, was disordered organisation....
@@englanduk6131 first off, non of the victims of herself where children. 2ndly, your entire account is so tory it hurts. 3rd, I'd argue that people murdering and being arrested for it, is far less relivent than nearly double the peiple being killed by bad organisation on the part of Hillsborough stadium, and then nobody being arrested for ot.
I was born in Liverpool and absolutely love the city. I'm now 50 years old and have supported LFC since I was about 3 years old. I served in the British Army and have experienced the loss of some great friends. The national anthem is very meaningful to me, beyond its governmental connections. It's upsetting when personal values clash with actions of a group you're associated with. When I saw the booing of our national anthem during the passing of our Queen and the king's coronation, I made the difficult decision to no longer support LFC, a club I have loved for 47 years.
Jurgen speaks with more intelligence, humility and understanding in his second language than the vast majority of our elected representatives can muster in their first.
I'm not surprised he can motivate football players to give their best
He doesn’t though does he.
You’re just blinded by the teeth.
@@pacman7687 you must be a Tory
@@roberttelford745 Ah yeah ,Klopp the multi million heir understands the plight of poor people. The irony of booing Prince William at a football match where you willingly hand over your money to sit in a stadium and cheer footballers who are paid 100K a week for kicking a ball. Get a grip!
@@pacman7687 Yeah Klopp has no clue, he just said what the victims (fans) wanted to hear because he likes his £300,000 a week job.
@@toekneekerching9543 ? Klopp has a working class background? And regardless, that doesn’t really matter, he cares and he listens
Iam from Belfast , Ireland and have been to Liverpool many times ( nothing to do with football) and I think Liverpool people are the most down to earth , friendly with a fantastic sense of humour you can find anywhere in the UK or Ireland.. brilliant people the Scouse !..
Most people all over the world.are the down to earth. I assume. Apparently you actually know
@@frankwhite4643 Fans booing is something you would see in East Liverpool, Ohio but certainly not in Liverpool, New York.
@@rockyzrockyx917 neither of those places are actually liverpool though
Agreed
If English Liverpool players hate our country so much & refuse to sing the national anthem then why do they play for England when picked?
They/we don't hate England, we hate the elites and the press. the national anthem says .god save the King'....not god save England.The national anthem is almost exclusively a tribute to the monarchy not the country.
I can't say I don't like Liverpool in anyway but I think it's disgusting behaviour and no matter what they think ,booing our national anthem is the wrong thing to do ,it's bizarre and very damaging for the whole UK
These are people who sing songs about people dying in air disasters does he think everybody but people in liverpool had a wonderful life in the 19th and 20th century .need to read some history instead of playing the victim.life was hard in them days no holidays to spain or buying 100 pound football shirts .
Well said from a scouser
Spoiler alert - they have no class.
Usually always support English teams in European competition but really hoping Real Madrid win this one. Gone off these whinging scousers.
Wonderful to hear people expressing how they felt , which is allowed in a democracy. The anti-royal/Tory/establishment feeling expressed here must be felt across other parts of the UK but only in Liverpool is it so concentrated and vocal , Scousers should take heart from this fact and carry on expressing how they feel , the strong independent people that they are. YNWA
They are fooling themselves if they think voting Labour is the answer! The likes of Starmer is a member of the Trilateral Commission and many are promoting the corrupt unelected World Economic Forum which is a clever way of bringing in the technocratic new world order under the guise of "sustainability'. All of these politicians are puppets, particularly the controlled opposition which pretends to be anti-establishment but tows a very thin and CONTROLLED line which the indoctrinated cannot see beyond.
Booing has absolutely nothing to do with democracy.
It’s a disgrace
They are not angry about the obscene money in football? Watching millionaires kick a ball around for billionaires,?
Get the fxxk out of here 🤣🤣
@@pacman7687 Boo, Boo, Boo!
They disgrace our nation ,a complete disgrace🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
You carry on singing your national anthem to a family that bank rolled their son to escape a child molestation charge, and who knighted and enabled the child rapist Jimmy Saville. Y.N.W.A
I just turn the volume off, cant stand the dross. Good on Liverpool fans, if i was there i’d have been booing too. Supporting Liverpool now 🙌
The thing is
The royal family are actually moving away from this type of rule Britannia
Thing A new Royal family way of thinking is coming in
This loyalism jack waving is dead
They now realise that different times
Need different ways of thinking
And understanding The hate that they have caused throughout the world
@@ronm9101 yet you lot wave the Irish flags at every game
Hate flag waving...only if it’s the Brit flag.
@@danh555 I can only assume you mean the Celtic football club that was formed by an Irishman
Well done Liverpool. From a Derby fan
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I'm from Stoke-on-trent & can assure you not everyone hates Liverpool. We even have our own supporters group & as for your wonderful city, well myself & wife think its the best place in the country. Your architecture, history, people & above all your football clubs, especially Liverpool fc we adore.
Why don't you support your own team...Stoke City?
@@damienoneill4355I support Port Vale which is at the opposite end of the city .
I would say that a glory supporter is someone who chose their club because of their success. That maybe someone who changes teams according to whoever's doing better at the time, or it maybe someone that sticks to the same team but originally started to support them because they were doing well, and not through any loyalty. your one of these , no culture of your own so you adopt one to make you feel accepted and important
@@paulharris6570 Most football fans support more than one team, or have an affinity I should say for another team, be it something simple like they worked in a city once a time and liked there time there, and just say I like them and there my second team, why make it a big issue, you sound like a hard line unionists from Northern Ireland, wind your neck back in
@@desslattery3457 Must be a lot of people who work in Liverpool or Manchester, strange that, Millwall should be getting 30k a week with all the commuters that work on East london, strange
Don’t know anyone who hates the city of Liverpool, it’s a very popular place to visit for good reason. I must be knocking around in different circles.
I’m a Scouser (Bootle), in my sixties, and when I have worked away from Liverpool I have often been called ‘Scouse’ and never took offence. Proud of it. Live in the Midlands now and really pleased I stumbled on Off the Ball.
How much do you feel like the Liverpool fans?
@@ciaranstaunton To be honest, I haven’t been to a game in years and I am not a monarchist. But I wouldn’t have booed as I don’t mind Prince William and he’s just doing his job. But certain sections of the fan base obviously do. The fans didn’t boo at the end when William was handing out medals. There are banners with ‘Scouse not English’ on them but I have never met a Geordie or Brummie I haven’t got on with. So I regard myself as English too. But I would support Liverpool before England. I have never thought of ‘Scouse’ as a pejorative term. Until Tony claimed it was. Joe is a brilliant presenter by the way. Really knowledgeable and engaging.
I don't mind being called Scouse. It's an insult that was reclaimed a long, long time before anyone alive today was even born. But then, I live in Ireland now and don't have to put up with Little England insults quite so much.
Bootle is in Sefton, not Liverpool.
I know several scousers...salt of the earth is all I can say
Now it's time for the whole of England to boo the anthem
So let me get this right, the Tory government and the police, cover up their failings and some fans blame the monarchy and start booing the national anthem??? That makes sense 🤦
No, they boo the monarchy because the vast majority of scousers are Republicans. Probably influenced by the Irish immigration.
It was the 80s that really put this in motion Liverpool was made an example of by thatchers government but South Wales and large parts of the north also suffered going further back as this film touches on a large amount of Irish emigrated into the city but they also moved into Wales as well when we had booming industry but by playing devils advocate how does Liverpool feel about the Welsh villages who were. Made to move so Liverpool and the wider area could have a reliable fresh water supply this still stirs up strong feelings in Wales to this day
Interesting that it is perfectly "acceptable" to boo some things, but not even question others. They have a very similar setup in Putin's Russia.....just a different set of things.
It's clear that in a democracy that people as individuals can decide for themselves. I don't think I would boo any anthem at the same time an anthem that makes no mention of the people will always be contentious to some. If you don't believe in singing something then don't. Maybe the idea that people have diverse opinions is something for those who were offended by the booing to get on board with. Well done those fans who were clear on their position 👏 👍 YNWA
@@Giovanniditessitore how can scousers be poor if they can travel in 10,000s to Paris and 45k to Wembley how poor you all are
Liverpool fans booing their National Anthem has many reasons. Whether right or wrong, I don’t know. The hypocrisy makes me laugh. Every time the English National team play their fans drown out their opponents national anthem with a chorus of boos. This is primarily an English thing. Their media are under instruction not to draw attention to it. Then the average English fan can’t understand why literally everyone outside England constantly root against them.
England fans even loudly booed Joe Gomez and took Sterling's side after scratchgate. That's all forgotten now.
Spot on Louise 👍 massive big booing from scotland ! That family is the British representative of blood , greed , slaughter, destruction and head of a murdering regime, they can GTF and put in the ashes when Scotland gets independence FTRF
As if they care about foreigners 'rooting' against them. It must be weird to speak the language of a people you hate. How do they cope with that?
Why do Liverpool fans boo?
@@greatestanalyser2354 Search the term "managed decline" and "Thatcher". That's a start.
No one hates Liverpool , they need to get over that victim mentality.
I was born in England and have Irish parents, grandparents etc. I sing both the English and Irish anthem with pride , if people don’t agree with singing the anthem then don’t sing it but booing is disrespectful yes I get you feel disrespected but rising above that behaviour would get more respect from me and I am sure others and people would be more willing to try and understand your pov , booing the anthem just puts peoples backs up.
My parents are Irish and I live about 20 miles from Liverpool but I do think they should take more responsibility, a lot of the time they're to blame and they can't admit it
Responsibility for what?
Well bloody said, most of the time I would say.
@@SFNDMK the trouble they cause and then cry about how they are treated, they where. a pack of thugs in the 70’s n still the same BUT ITS NEVER THIER FAULT, and please go independent n leave England to be a better place without you Micky’s about
Responsible for a managed decline by thatcher in the 80s? Responsible for the cover up by the government and police on Hillsborough? For someone with Irish parents you should feel a bit ashamed. Well I know I would. The Irish has always been hated by the English. And the Irish influx in Liverpool over a hundred years ago caused an instant agenda against the city by the rest of England. Come on.
@@joshg2603 maybe but at the same time if I was in Liverpool I'd be called a wool by people who are less Irish than me and I wouldn't get that anywhere else, id find it derogatory so I couldn't be relaxed
I think the people of Liverpool should really move on we’re all in the same boat it just seems really childish and petty to me
You're not all in the same boat as us. We where devastated far by any one else by the effects of thatcherism policy and we shouldn't be told by anglophiles to accept their false narrative
“Move on!”
The cry of the Tory. Nothing to see here.
I'm a scouser and this is another reason wer the self pity rep comes from, constantly offended, offended if someone calls him a scouser... We need to stop rising to this, this is what they want. I bet he never went to a food bank
Totally agree.
Why do you never get this victim mentality from Everton, Tranmere, Preston etc?
@@northernsoul3485 Becasuse I think Liverpool fans don’t want to be liked. They like a siege mentality.
Using scouse like the N word what a fkin plank
Northern Soul
Everton and Tranmere never had a Hillsborough and the constant mockery that followed. Wakey wakey.
Fair play to Liverpool. They are not backing down
It's clearly a historical issue, liverpool has a close relationship with Ireland. I am pretty certain I read that most scousers can trace their heritage back to Ireland, at least 2nd or 3rd generation. I've been to liverpool and it's totally different to what I expected... Its a beautiful city, and yes, it does have bad area's.. like every major city.
Liverpool does feel different, it has attitude, which I can of admire.
The many Irish connections may be true, but that still doesn’t explain the booing. I was at an Ireland V England match at the old Lansdowne Rd and another at the newly opened Aviva stadium. The Irish fans sang their anthem while a chorus of boos came from the England end. The Irish fans didn’t boo the English anthem. It shows there’s a certain underbelly to the National game. Embarrassing.
I can sympathise with the meaning of your statement: Because of Hillsborough the people of Liverpool are not being dealt a fair 'cop': Which saddens me.
I and my wife with friends go to Liverpool often and we're going for our 20th wedding anniversary. You see we are from Nottingham and we all remember those crazy days when our cities were champions of Europe for 5 years.
Another twist of fate and it could have us mourning the dead of our city and perhaps we'd have been booing the anthem!
70% scousers have Irish descent.
@@markkeetley2225, so Hillsborough is a reason to boo the national anthem??? Your as loopy as the scousers 🙄
But most English have some Irish ancestors, my mother is Irish so I don't get this tbh.... The whole country is being screwed and not just f****** Liverpool
It's a full 3 minutes before Tony is allowed to answer. Can Molloy not get a full time job with Virgin??
Agree. Last night he asked every single person on the off the ball about the football lad that game out as Guy ( respect to the lad 👍) but Joe can't stop himself . He has to put his opinion over and over .
Totally agree. Wouldn't have liked to hear more from Tony. The first half of that clip is a waste. Get on with it Joe.
I thought the same. The guy just went on and on and on AND ON .He obviously loves the sound of his own voice and Tony Evans only got a few words in before the video ended .
I'm from the North East and like Liverpool but there is a element there which is disturbing..Thatcher destroyed our region and before that people from Jarrow marched all the way down to London to try and make them listen..but I would never boo our anthem ..no way .
not our fault you like the taste of boot up there
@@gringosdarr More like they don't wallow in self pity thinking their the only ones to have it tough. Anthem belongs to everybody.
@@buster9168 Lizzies in the mud in the mud lizzies in the mud na na naaaa lizzies in the mud in the mud
@@buster9168 Lizzies in the mud in the mud lizzies in the mud na na naaaa lizzies in the mud in the mud
@@scousegam3r565 Actually she is in a crypt the words were Lizzies in a box you can't even get that right you dope bellend🤣🤣🤣
Tony. I'm right there with you mate. As a Celtic supporting Scot with an Irish heritage We share a song and a King YNWA.
Connections between Liverpool and Celtic run long and deep, and will never be divided.
@@stevenjones2106 Ha Ha good one steve go and find out who formed liverpool and your opinion will change.
It was Everton who had Irish connection think it was 1950s most of team had players from Irish Republic...not Liverpool check history of who founded both clubs.
Don't try and turn this into a Glasgow religious divide...this city is for ALL people.
Remember when Liverpool got English teams banned from Europe for 5 years and got Italian fans crushed by a wall. That didn’t help Liverpools image, perhaps they could join the Irish league instead.
Shhhhhh don't mention the "H" word.
Think you'll find it was over a decade of a wider hooligan problem throughout English football leading up to Heysel which lead to the ban. English football was already on a last chance warning before Heysel.
If you think otherwise you are a clueless muppet who wasn't around at the time. Man Utd fans smashed down the gates at Ayersome Park just a few years before, killing some Middlesbrough fans, for example.
Spurs, Leeds, United, Villa and even Arsenal fans etc caused trouble across Europe before Heysel.
Italians crushed themselves. No Liverpool fan killed any one of them.
The rest of your club's football fans enjoy a good reputation do they?
@@stevekildare4053
Best go by *FACTS.*
we don't attend football matches to sing and idolise to a mega rich german family.
Racist.
@@ajp8941explain ?
never give up. never shut up. respect from slovenija
Why did they boo abide with me? That's also the first time I've ever heard anyone claim calling someone a scouser is an insult, most people I've met from Liverpool are proud to be called scousers.
It started of as an insult in the 1800
@@ronm9101 you didn’t answer the other question.
@@KENNYPAUL2 got board
Yeh they did boo abide with me ?!! Pathetic
Seemingly they thought it was announced that the National Anthem was to be sung. Once 55,000 start booing you can’t here anything else. May be time to put an end to all the pomp and political pageantry at football games. Players are warned not to display any private or political messages on their under shirts or risk sanctions, so why not do away with all of it. Otherwise we’ll get like U S A with their Pledging allegiance to the flag, singing the National anthem with great gusto with tears streaming down their face. Brainwashed.
You can dress it up and excuse it but it is still deeply ignorant.
If you boo the knee you get kicked out
As a Scouser ....Can I just say sorry for Kopites and bell ends like Tony here
He sounds like black Americans playing the victim card. "A long time ago in our history we had a hard time and I'm not going to forget what didn't happen to me by people I never knew in a history I never lived"
My son in law after 2 terms in Afghanistan told me, at just 26 he had learnt life wasn't about him.
Tony, you cannot hold onto the injustices of a life you never lived to justify you being a jerk today.
Because life's not about you.
Never read the Independent never even heard of this bloke I just love my country
What other things haven’t you done?
Why do people brag about the people and things they haven't heard of these days, like it's a reflection on those people/things they don't know rather than themselves? So you've never read the Independent, why would anyone care?
You’re literally bragging about your own ignorance.
As a welsh Liverpool fan i bloody love you scousers. If you boo i know its not for nothing. YNWA
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"You laud poverty, we boo privilege" - that is so succinctly put that it's really not necessary to add much else!
Spot on, sister.
Liverpool has been dominated by the labour party yet all certain Liverpool political activists want to do is whine about the conservative party.
@@bighands69 You saying the Conservative party has never ran the country? How ignorant can you be?
Hannah Alone
That's exactly what the Woke Middle Class Elite in London think about Working Class People.
@@connsaunders9600 Including the Tories?
Fair play to Liverpool, they have a voice and they expressed a viewpoint against the contempt which the governments and other so called authorities in this country have directed against them for years. The national anthem needs changing to reflect the nation and not just a upper crust section of it. We all need to support Liverpool on this stance.
I'm from the south east but I totally agree. Ours must be the only nat anthem in the world that pays homage to an individual rather than our country.
never followed English football but I'm now im a fan of Liverpool fans... farkin legends.
@@donavonlarney 🤡
They don’t all boo I’m a scouser and proud English man as are all those I know.
Then you're a fake scouser.
With all the punching down that goes on from the establishment to the normal people on the street, the unmatched transfer of wealth that has happened in the world in the last few years and the quite frankly disgusting treatment of the general world population by the elites that people for some reason have now accepted as 'normal' and that's not even including the long standing treatment of Liverpool and most of the north by the south. It's ok for all that but as soon as some football fans show their dislike of said establishment by using a platform that most normal people can't get there's uproar!?!
At least they were punching up by booing. And if you are sat there thinking that your governments and monarchies are your friends and even care about you I don't know what to say to you.
The uproar should be saved for the self serving corrupt elites that are destroying our society, not for the regular hard working people!
Itz da toreez da toreez
@@leeTBh Mock someone when you don't have the brain power to argue against it. It's far easier to make a strawman than to understand what people ACTUALLY think
I am an Evertonian from a strongly scouse family, and I endorse what Tony says. I don't always agree with him, but on this, I do. I personally would not boo the national anthem but I won't criticise the reds for doing so. What's Tony says is correct - there is an undercurrent of anti-scouse feeling that is inherant in English society, partly through the media and also folklore. Think of some of the portrayals of Liverpool people and the city - 'bin dippers', ''you'll never work again', 'feed the scousers' - the song 'in your Liverpool slums' and the picture painted of a city full of thieves and vagabonds. The crime rate and unemployment rate these days is not the worst in the country yet the negative connotations persist.
Well said, totally agree. I'm Scottish yet of all the British cities I've visited Liverpool is by far and away the friendliest. Treat the people of Liverpool with respect and they'll accept you as one of their own
😂 yeah yeah, always someone else’s fault.
There’s an anti British/English sentiment amongst scouser because many are of Irish descent; plus their city is riddled with commies.
Like gypos, constant chip on their shoulder.
Respect & greetings to all LFC fans from a Dorset Hatter - workers of the world unite
Perhaps it’s Thatcher’s fault 😂
Is it really farfetched considering that more than half of the country's ills can be traced to neoliberal capitalism?
Bollocks
Am from Merseyside and we have so many brave soldiers through history that have fort and died for this great country.why would anyone not be proud to be English ???? E.F.C. 💙💚🇬🇧🇬🇧💪
Funny Liverpool fans never mention Heysel where Liverpool fans murdered juventus fans...suppose it doesn't fit the narrative 🙄
Shouldn't be in football after heysal
The whole of the football ecosystem at the time was entire of hatred and hooliganism, it was not a matter of who but when and where. There are other instances of near misses with both hooliganism and crushing.
not our fault
Whatever a teams local rivalry in my experience they all seem to dislike Liverpool ,its a common thread
Because we are the best the best anthem the best history the all red strip the kop the European cups shankly paisley dalglish klopp hope that this has answered your question
No
Most successful English club ever. Best atmosphere ever. Scousers rule this dumb of a country. Of course they’re going to be bitter and sad about it.
Neither am I HTL
That guy Tony appears to have a giant chip on both shoulders. He seems to appropriate abuse from extremists and others up to 175 years ago as being the fault of the monarchy. Just chill out, ignore the haters and support your country.
Sean - yours seems to be the rare voice of sense, in all the idiots that have commented, under the impression they have an intellect.......
For Tony Evans to say that Liverpool is a despised city is a ridiculous generalisation and is just as offensive a remark as saying that scousers wallow in being victimised.
Utter nonsense Everton fan's don't boo are we to believe Everton fan's aren't scousers
You cannot be an advocate for freedom and freedom of speech and then complain about booing at football matches (for whatever reason). I'm a Manchester United fan and I support the Liverpool fans right to boo whatever they like, for whatever reason they like. It wasn't violent it was peaceful discontent, the way it should be a fair and free country.
supporting freedom of speech doesn't mean you have to support everything everyone says, you can support free speech and still be disgusted/offended/outraged at the things other people say
I'm not saying they shouldn't have a right of free speech and expression, but booing the hymn, which is in reference to our fraility and Jesus walking with us in times of our despair and need, does not justify booing.
Remember we will give an account for all our foolishness ...
Matthew 12:36 KJV - But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
GOT TO LOVE ANYONE WHO BOO'S ANYTHING TO DO WITH ROYALTY OR ASKING A GOD BEING TO SAVE THEM BUT NO MENTION OF ITS PEOPLE
I absolutely hate it when maybe on holidays I have spent some time with people from other parts of the country we have gotten on really well had a good laugh together and they still think it’s ok to tell your a good person for a scouser and expect you to take that as a compliment
@Mikey Mouse shouldv told them moss side
@Mikey Mouse And yet Manchester is the UK's biggest criminal City! and that's official!!
@@petemitchel5622 Who???
Gotten? You cant be from England🇺🇸🇺🇸
I boo the royals, always have done, always will. Big deal that's my prerogative. At least the working class lads in MU would keep tight lipped when the National anthem was played before England games Scholesy and that crew I mean.
Why should any of our fellow northeners cheer for a monarch that is displayed riding in a golden carriage amongst the starving children of our country. It's a disgrace.
@@pleasantville4529 Yeah, I can't disagree with that.
As a scouser and blue nose from a large Irish family I fully agree with everything my red brother has said. Just need the young bitters on both sides to see we’re stronger together
Agree 100%
🙏 Glad your lot stayed up, we'll need those 6 points against Pep and Oil City next season 😉😂
Your English
@@user-ir1lu1ei4n you’re
Ah, the plastic paddy’s