Great review. Thanks. I agree with the results of the Generative AI features, need much improvement. I tried it a few times and it was a complete failure. The other new features seem worthwhile.
So what I gather from this is Gen AI is pretty much useless in ON1 but you can better results in PS😂 so what's the point of upgrading to ON1 2025 if you have PS.
It’s a good update with the exception of the Generative Ai features. I still pay the $10 for Photoshop so I would just kick over the PS to that kind of work. I think for many, paying another subscription for Gen AI is a killer for many. It’s too bad ON1 didn’t work a deal with the cloud AI company. Maybe just pay as you go instead of a subscription. All the other features are great. The hope is ON1 will continue to improve the internal Gen AI feature.
You are right about working a deal with an AI company. Otherwise, they need to build their own cloud-based generative AI software. The local Gen AI isn't truly Gen AI if it isn't being battle-tested against millions of other photos on the cloud continually.
@@aperlust Totally agree with you. ON1 is a small company compared to Adobe that’s for sure. I just won’’t use ON1’s Gen AI. Since I would have to upload to the cloud to get good results, I’ll just continue my Photoshop $10/month account. I have the Photographers account. I know ON1 will continue to work on the local Generative stuff to help improve it. The rest of the update is great; however.
My understanding is it uses pre-existing data, in this case photos. This is what I was informed by another photography software company that uses gen AI. I don't believe it compares thousands of photos in real-time. I could be wrong, but feel free to enlighten me. :)
Great review. Thanks. I agree with the results of the Generative AI features, need much improvement. I tried it a few times and it was a complete failure. The other new features seem worthwhile.
Thank you for the simple honest assessment of the generative AI crop, local is enough for my needs and there’s no need for a subscription.
So what I gather from this is Gen AI is pretty much useless in ON1 but you can better results in PS😂 so what's the point of upgrading to ON1 2025 if you have PS.
Exactly, it might be a better option for new users that want to move away from a subscription-based software like Lightroom.
With an object that's reflected in water I think that may be better handled as a two step process - first the object then the reflection.
That's correct. Using layers or cloning you should be able to clean it up well. On the other hand, AI retouching can now detect reflections.
It’s a good update with the exception of the Generative Ai features. I still pay the $10 for Photoshop so I would just kick over the PS to that kind of work. I think for many, paying another subscription for Gen AI is a killer for many. It’s too bad ON1 didn’t work a deal with the cloud AI company. Maybe just pay as you go instead of a subscription. All the other features are great. The hope is ON1 will continue to improve the internal Gen AI feature.
You are right about working a deal with an AI company. Otherwise, they need to build their own cloud-based generative AI software. The local Gen AI isn't truly Gen AI if it isn't being battle-tested against millions of other photos on the cloud continually.
@@aperlust Totally agree with you. ON1 is a small company compared to Adobe that’s for sure. I just won’’t use ON1’s Gen AI. Since I would have to upload to the cloud to get good results, I’ll just continue my Photoshop $10/month account. I have the Photographers account. I know ON1 will continue to work on the local Generative stuff to help improve it. The rest of the update is great; however.
@@aperlustthat's not how generative AI works. Do you really think those online models do compare photos?
My understanding is it uses pre-existing data, in this case photos. This is what I was informed by another photography software company that uses gen AI. I don't believe it compares thousands of photos in real-time. I could be wrong, but feel free to enlighten me. :)
Try changing colour to black or white with the new colour wheel😂
Not a bad update, but not a fan of needing another account and pay to use tools