Classic Anti-Gay Debate...Remember This?

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  • -Classic Interview: Abbie Goldberg, psychology professor and renowned expert on lesbian and gay parenting, and Tom McClusky, Vice President of Government Affairs at the Family Research Council, join us live for a debate about the moral and legal validity of Judge Vaughn Walker’s overturning of Proposition 8 in California, gay marriage, gay parenting, and much more
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  • @Tall_Order
    @Tall_Order 10 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Its funny how this guy keeps saying "theres an overwhelming mountain of evidense".
    And you didn't bother to bring any of it with you? We're just supposed to take your word for it? Because the "overwhelming mountain of evidense" I've seen says you're a liar.

  • @l0gically
    @l0gically 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Let me translate. When you hear anyone from FRC mention 'overwhelming evidence' it means 'we really don't know what we're talking about'.

  • @ChristianIce
    @ChristianIce 10 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    That ws not even a debate, the guy was simply humiliated for the whole time :)

  • @longshot3740
    @longshot3740 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone definitely crapped their pants at 2:21... Hahahaha!

  • @JessePeterson94
    @JessePeterson94 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Im not gay but i have to ask who defined that marriage is defined as a woman and a man, and if you say the bible then you must ask, so if the person doesn't believe in the bible are they pushed to follow something they do not believe, because of people who would take peoples rights away because they want to force their beliefs on others.

    • @Hoops590
      @Hoops590 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      liberals believe in evolution, they lie, and call it science. Then if someone calls them out on their lies, they call them stupid. So liberals are essentially liars who hate God. What they really want is to ban the Bible, mass abortions, sodomite marriages, homelessness, unemployment, and pure hell on earth. They call this utopia.
      They don't actually care about human rights.

    • @Hoops590
      @Hoops590 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** You seem like you are full of hate, Nice try posing as a Christian

  • @46619TAB
    @46619TAB 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The question I wished would been asked is where in the documents that founded the USA does it read 'unless you're Homosexual'?
    My partner of 11 years and I were married on June 25, 2014 after the Circuit Court told the northern Southern Red State of Indiana that their anti same sex law was discriminatory. We signed the same papers str8s sign, repeated our vows the same as str8s do and sealed the deal with a kiss the same as str8s do but there were 3 differences - we were married in a city park by a JP, the word 'god' was never mentioned because it's not required when entering into a contract and rather than exchange rings we did a fist bump because we'd been wearing the matching rings for a decade.
    Fast forward a few months to today. Str8 married or living together couples in our subdivision are still str8 married or living together couples with the exception of one str8 married couple who have been legally separated for months after she came home unexpectedly to find him in their bed fucking another woman. NOT our fault, we're two married guys. Str8 marrieds need no help from same sex married couples to 'destroy the sanctity of marriage', they are fully capable of doing it themselves.

    • @blainelhoward
      @blainelhoward 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just want to say Congrats to both you and you're partner. I call my boyfriend my husband all the time though we cannot make it legal yet.
      I think the real issue with straights is most gay people stay together for years my friend from middle school is still with the same guy they've been together since 1996 * 6th grade year* and their still together now.
      Straight people split up left and right there is no structure and there is no balance. That is their problem Jealousy and nothing else.

    • @46619TAB
      @46619TAB 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I 'came out' to my parents 42 years when I was 18 and home from college on Xmas break. I told them I had fucked a female thinking it would 'change me' but it didn't, I still liked men. Mom looked at dad and said "I told you", they had my back 'til they both passed.
      Best wishes upon you!!
      .

    • @46619TAB
      @46619TAB 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** We spent several thousand dollars each for the matching full around baguette cut diamond bands years ago when we decided we were going to be together forever, there was no need for new rings. Besides, the fist bump caused more smiles for our guests than the I do dip kiss.

    • @46619TAB
      @46619TAB 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** whatever blows your skirts but that doesn't happen here.

    • @TheLilyMustang
      @TheLilyMustang 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A fist bump! Now that is an amazing idea! Would you mind if I steal this from you?
      Congrats on your ceremony and finding & keeping love.

  • @AbnormalWrench
    @AbnormalWrench 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was an amazingly polite discussion. I wouldn't have made it 60 seconds into that conversation without asking him how it feels to be a POS?

    • @joy_everlasting2904
      @joy_everlasting2904 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yea, but being nice while asking questions is the best way to get people to reveal their own ignorance :P

  • @leewhite344
    @leewhite344 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jeez, so glad I was born into a liberal family

  • @SuperPowers989
    @SuperPowers989 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Funny how the homophobic guy kept trying to bring up reasons why gay couples aren't the same as straight couples, in an effort to justify his already twisted beliefs.

    • @ChristianIce
      @ChristianIce 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      *****
      Release the pain.

    • @aberosk
      @aberosk 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ***** Men's g-spot is in our anus, it sucks, but is great for some people. So with that in mind if you have a religious reason for being against same sex relationships, then you should know that your god made men with there g-spot in their anus.

    • @starscreamdakmo
      @starscreamdakmo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Heleno Henzo is having a difficult time getting that closet door open

    • @starscreamdkmo
      @starscreamdkmo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What Heleno Henzo wont accept is that all the christian schools and those promoting creation and against evolution are funded by the same corporations that give money to gay rights groups, every time a christian buys one of those creation books a christian is helping to make sure gay people are able to get married and have gay sex, how many books does Heleno have? he funded lgbt rights and he doesn't even know it

    • @helenohenzotheclosetedinco4218
      @helenohenzotheclosetedinco4218 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *****
      Heleno is very scared to turn the handle on that closet door of his

  • @bradleybindle6428
    @bradleybindle6428 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here, David apparently interviews George Costanza.

  • @TechSword
    @TechSword 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Control Group in the study he keeps citing are the kids raised by Married Heterosexual Parents. *That's* how this type is study works,

  • @algore92
    @algore92 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    She wrecked his shit! Oh my god I've never seen so many great counterarguments that were not refuted.

    •  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      your god ?
      which one

    • @algore92
      @algore92 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blue Cranes The one true god, Poseidon duh.

    •  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      al gore
      well ,where is his trident ???

  • @KinLungh
    @KinLungh 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    question, what kind of people are funding the FRC??

  • @yesvery7362
    @yesvery7362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    oh my, little old tommy was not prepared

  • @hurtsdonut2823
    @hurtsdonut2823 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a waste of time.

    • @crjetpilot
      @crjetpilot 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly! You won’t change a bigot’s mind. That’s why it went to the courts. Personally, I think Christianity is harmful to the public! If they practiced their own teachings and kept their noses out of everyone else’s lives, I wouldn’t mind their religion but that’s never the case!

  • @antibigotry123
    @antibigotry123 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i'm constantly impressed by how david is able to maintain his sang-froid and deal fairly with both speakers -- despite the obvious hatefulness [compounded by ignorance of the facts] coming from mcclusky. meanwhile, professor goldberg had really done her homework, and mcclusky simply isn't in her league, either as a thinker or in terms of controlling the data.

  • @starscreamdakmo
    @starscreamdakmo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    who farted around 2:19

    • @starscreamdakmo
      @starscreamdakmo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *****
      FUCK HELENO DID YOU LOOSE ANOTHER ACCOUNT? LOL

    • @alanw505
      @alanw505 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At 2:21 I either heard a wet fart or someone shuffling a deck of cards. : )

    • @alanw505
      @alanw505 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think Tom McClusky just shit himself knowing this debate was going badly...quickly.

    • @SmashtheCmachine
      @SmashtheCmachine 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** Another account of yours killed, I see. I know you have only a part time job, so how you can afford all those phones is a mystery.
      Meanwhile, in that one video you uploaded, I'm absolutely AMAZED you left your window open, since everyone knows you live in New Bedford, MA. Especially after you said what you did about children. And slavery.

    • @starscreamdakmo
      @starscreamdakmo 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      *****
      did you read the part about creation books and gay rights? thats true

  • @rabrown2126
    @rabrown2126 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I Googled Stanley Kurtz to see what data he had gathered on the harmful effects of gay marriage on straight marriages. I found an article from Huff Post from 2009 written by Barrett Brown which discussed some of Kurtz's research. Brown claims that Stanley Kurtz's conclusions are inconsistent with his data and that his data is actually in line with the claims Abby Goldberg presented.

  • @utah133
    @utah133 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    David used the Socratic method brilliantly. You just ask questions and let the person discredit his own flawed thinking.

  •  10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lets wait and see the outcome in 15 years
    of this poor kids from two mothers or two fathers relationship

    •  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** who said ?
      And why would they ?
      Boys are forced to cook and forbidden to play rough sports
      girls are brought without father role in their lives ,
      so they look for feminized men as husband forever

    •  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** then , tell me the truth

    •  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      *****
      mediamatters.org ???? !!!!!
      well, the problem is not the issue of parents, the issue is how the kid grows.
      hen can not teach duck to swim, even worse, it will chase them from the water

    • @Voltabulous
      @Voltabulous 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Western-European studies show kids from same-sex parents actually often turn out better adults then kids from most straight parents. Also wether you have 2 moms or 2 dads, you actually have 4 parents in each of these cases. Gay people, wether they are male or female have stonger balanced male/female traits. In that sense they are kind of evolved. A straight man or woman also has traits from the opposite sex in them, but they are less balanced than in gay people. It's one of many reasons why straight marriages fail much more often than gay marriages. Straight men and women will never really understand eachother. The way Americans claim gay people destroy the sanctity of marriage is bizar, since in the US 1 in 2 (50%) of all marriage end in divorce. Also here in the Netherlands we are in the Top 5 of happiest countries in the world, doing best in all sectors and we are not a religious country anymore, we're far more progressive on many issues. We teach sex ed in schools, resulting in almost zero teenage pregnancies and rape, we allow smoking weed, which resulted in less crime, we're not gun crazy, resulting in almost no gun related deaths, you never hear stuff about that hear, and there's many more examples I could name. We were the first country in the world to allow gay marriage and no one complained here and not one straight marriage ended because of it. I think change in the US happens so slowly because your country is so immensely big, but hopefully you will get there soon. I say all this with the best intensions.

    •  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Voltabulous
      total BS , missing mother in kid's live is leaving BIG EMPTY SPACE

  • @acekame6529
    @acekame6529 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's Clark University in Worcester, ma - just to clarify. I live right down the street from it. It's good to see Abby representing Worcester in a positive light. She ruled.

  • @MANMARTRE
    @MANMARTRE 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    David, you can truly show brilliance of genius in journalism. This was truly the perfect cross cut into the debate between the two poles of the marriage equality debate. The studies in the Netherlands and 4 other EU countries have all been conclusive that same sex marriages have no bearing on hetero couples. So either McClusky lied or the report he quoted was a blatant lie. Poor McClusky couldn't present one fact, was not prepared and kept presenting fabricated articles based on idiots opinions and not scientific findings. I rate this video 5*****

  • @AnotherTruth
    @AnotherTruth 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a single-mother to kids with involved extensive family and friends. We only struggled because of time management and money, but my kids grew up to become thoughtful and educated adults. People still stigmatize me and my efforts because of that, thinking my children jumped forward on their own (as what kids are supposed to do), when they got my love and support, the whole time. By the way, when one of my children is gay and he will be a great father and husband, because I support his reproductive and marriage rights (as a single mother no less).

  • @sagefields5847
    @sagefields5847 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You only have to look at Tom to know what kind of guy he is

  • @dewinthemorning
    @dewinthemorning 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:54, "... like poligamy" - What does poligamy have to do with gay marriage? We find poligamy in the bible - Solomon having 300 wives, other patriarchs having more than one wife - should we outlaw the bible because it may lead to poligamy?

    •  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      old testament is valid only in synagogue
      so do whatever you want

  • @billthecat666
    @billthecat666 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    The question that wasn't asked was when was marriage ever defined as between a man and woman?

  • @Ultra80s
    @Ultra80s 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    David in a polo...
    Suddenly I wanna watch Can't Buy Me Love.

  • @polo-qz8vr
    @polo-qz8vr 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is happening with David's voice 👀

  • @icampos89
    @icampos89 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So is Louis just there to look pretty?

  • @TheOhioan4truth
    @TheOhioan4truth 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the Family Research Council actually researching? How to destroy any family combination, up to and including heterosexual families also? This "Council" does not support national healthcare or a living wage. How would that help ANY American family?
    Not much, in my estimation.

  • @patrickobrian6496
    @patrickobrian6496 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is america free? i think not

  • @yesvery7362
    @yesvery7362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    also dude in the black shirt next to abbie... kinda cute???

  • @aaronpadilla775
    @aaronpadilla775 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am the law

  • @liamj2363
    @liamj2363 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol, Honzo got banned again.

  • @LOLOMANYAuno
    @LOLOMANYAuno 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    David, si vas a borrar los comentarios anti semita, también deberías borrar los anti gay. Saludos

    •  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      no comprende
      English per favore

    • @LOLOMANYAuno
      @LOLOMANYAuno 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blue Cranes thanks dude, i didn't noticed
      fyi: that´s italian

    •  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ElFelpinha Sape
      italian shmitalial
      After all , David Pakman did not leave Argentina to write in spanish in usa

    • @LOLOMANYAuno
      @LOLOMANYAuno 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, noone speaks in spanish in the us

    •  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ElFelpinha Sape
      how is is relevant to this site ??
      did you notice anybody writing in german, chinese or arabic ??????

  •  10 ปีที่แล้ว

    homosexual judge is not impartial
    sweet
    hahahahahaha