Sensei Paul James (4th Dan) takes you through a possible Bunkai to Empi. Get more Kata and Bunkai at: www.clwb-heb-enw.co.uk See Sensei Paul James at: www.aberkarate.co.uk
why dont we just treat it as an opinion and focus on the kata,is is delivered and moves explained very well,i like it and he is doing it for us and his students,we all make mistakes or have varied opinions on this subject,bow to you all
I believe that your training comes from how serious you want to learn. If you want to become better then u must seek the knowledge. All martial arts have there strengthes and weaknesses, the point is can you make your self better and remove the flaws that we as humans constantly make. Karate is not a hobby its a way of life, and its a good one if you work it
Effective bunkai only needs only two techniques at the most. This is actually three techniques: (1) gedan barai + age-tsuki (2) hiza-geri + chudan gyaku-tsuki. The finishing (3) ura gedan barai should not be a groin attack, because you are pulling away from the groin area. In our school, it's a throw over your leg, (after #2 gyaku tsuki) with your left hand pulling as your right hand guards your rear. Breaking it up in three techniques used separately make it a good technique on the street.
When I mean about limiting the technique to just two techniques applies to any bunkai. That's because (as Buckmuscles had mentioned below) your opponent will not be just standing there while you move from technique to technique. It's a natural reaction for an aggressive person to punch without thought of rhythm or timing and move around, even if after he is hit, especially in the midsection where it takes time for the pain to register. When analyzing bunkai, always keep this in mind.
@uglybusker i concur. my instructor preaches the same as well. there are endless possibilities to bunkai, why limit yourself? nor can you claim "this is the traditional way!" because each instructor views the bunkai differently. to deny that is to deny the proper respect that goes to all karate pioneers be it goju, wado, shotokan, shito, etc
part 2 of my previous message. after-all my safety is prime. and by chin i mean jaw, which is the easiest place to hit to end all violence by knock out, not to mention the throat is made of tissue which isn't effected well be being struck, gripped maybe. also i was stating one punch in the jaw would suffice not repeated amounts.
Hi there. Why don't you use the final barai as a throw? It seems quite obvious and more " usefull" than a backward facing groin strike... Turn of hip while holding opponent= throw him?
I don't disagee with the vid entirely, although turning your back on someone in a fight isn't how I teach Bunkai. Personally I teach the end part as a throw. The trailing leg takes them over while both hands are used to move the upper body. By doing this you avoid the use of dead hands (or the 'spare hand goes on belt' idea). You also end up facing the same way as the opponent. I don't have all the answers. No one does. Thanks for sharing your views.
You don't stand and punch in kosa dachi, you drive forwards with all your weight into the punch, the back leg follows through for distance. Think stored momentum rather than a static thrust
Please note, this is "a possible" bunkai to Empi. No one can seriously say that there is only Bunkai. If you blindly deny that there is no other way it could or should ever be done, then you will never be able to get a fuller and more rounded understanding of Karate (or anything else, for that matter!) And that is what I want, personally. I honestly think that the more possible Bunkai (including the traditional ones), the better. But that is just my opinion. what does everyone else think?
lol haha can i ask what rank you are. that was purely and beginner comment. let ask you this. do your self defense not have grabbling? do you not use wrist locks? most of my jujutsu is all on my feet. you never heard of aki-jujutsu? research some more then come back to me. just for the record i also train in Okinawan kobujitsu. the same system master odo taught.
the middle part of this bukai is good, the entrance isnt sufficient though- why would i use a gedan barai for something like that, also punching the throat makes no sense when the chin is right next to it in clear way. the ending as said in previous comments would have made a better throw- hitting the groin makes no sense once again wespecially when the previous attack way a punch to the face, whats wrong with just hitting the face again, and again, and again. nothing.
well sir what is your bunkai of this kata. Jujutsu is, in my opinion, the root of all Martial Arts. Whether its Aiki-jujutsu, etc. Every thing is based on something. Call it what you will. But if this bunkai meets the needs of the kata who are you to denounce it.
The practice of kata has the only function of practicing the movements and techniques in the air before application to an opponent, just like shadow boxing. Of course, shadow boxing is much better for these proposes, so we can say kata is some kind of "primitive" shadow boxing practice, and it stays that way because karate is an art that likes to conserve tradition.
Not the part of the Kata that needs translation. This is atleast similar to what 90% of shotokan people teach for ths set of moves. It's pretty straight forward.
tu sais le karate j en fait depuis 30ans j ai 49 ans alors je dit ce que je pense,je suis eleve a valera et suis 5edan khyokushin,voila ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And thats the exact point of bunkai. Why would they create kata if it was just to "shuffle" kihon around? The application of kata was not lost. If the application was lost, so would the kata and karate itself but it hasnt. Kata was always meant to have the student discover the applications for themselves. Think about it, even Bruce Lee believed that he'd rather master a few good and flexible techniques for a fight then be sub-par in hundreds of them.
To have a working knowledge/ non-static understanding of the movements unlimited applications. I just dont think you train bunkai, so you're insecure about it because you dont understand it and you're not very confident in your own training.
The application is not realistic and practical for a defense purpose. The downward block is not a downward block at all. During the time Karate was for defending against an armed attacker. therefore blocking is not the first move at all. It is evading, grabbing and punching to the underarm or face. Today many practisioners of Karate have not understood what the movement says, and they stick to what has been imparted to them.
Monsieur porquoi ne vous aller pas a un. tatami et veras que le box ne rien avoir avec le karate.Cet outil cet pour ensegne les applications du Kata ne pas pour dire a les personnes vous combien de effectivite il ya dans la technique de Karate. Aller au tatami. Si vous ne le troouve pas bonne porqoui vus la regardez PAJUDO.
WTF are you talking about? Karate Kata is the Karateka's encyclopedia of movements and transitions. Bunkai is mean to explore all the applications of karate movement. The old masters preserved all the basics in kata. The applications arent meant to be static or limited. That's the whole fucking point and you missed it by a mile.
tous ca ca sert a rien,le karate c est la finalite du combat,c est a dire l efficacite,arretons de rever,allez sur le ring et vous verrez ou dans la rue oussssssssssssssss
Honestly, it would be better to master the fundamental techniques and learn how to apply it in as many situations you can think of. That way you know the full use of your tools.
Very good bunkai. Realistic. Thank you sir. Oss
why dont we just treat it as an opinion and focus on the kata,is is delivered and moves explained very well,i like it and he is doing it for us and his students,we all make mistakes or have varied opinions on this subject,bow to you all
Great job and demonstration of technique. Here's to continued growth and learning.
I like your idea, thanks for posting it. The more ways to do a kata, the better!
I believe that your training comes from how serious you want to learn. If you want to become better then u must seek the knowledge. All martial arts have there strengthes and weaknesses, the point is can you make your self better and remove the flaws that we as humans constantly make. Karate is not a hobby its a way of life, and its a good one if you work it
unlimited interpretations of a kata.... none are wrong.... maybe some might be less practical than others but katas apps are endless.. nice vid
don't forget to Re-Stomp the groin! Enter The Dojo, Episode 1: Welcome To The Dojo
@mothervelvet awesome idea. i can totally see the throw now that you mention it.
Effective bunkai only needs only two techniques at the most. This is actually three techniques: (1) gedan barai + age-tsuki (2) hiza-geri + chudan gyaku-tsuki. The finishing (3) ura gedan barai should not be a groin attack, because you are pulling away from the groin area. In our school, it's a throw over your leg, (after #2 gyaku tsuki) with your left hand pulling as your right hand guards your rear. Breaking it up in three techniques used separately make it a good technique on the street.
Très bonne recherche ! Bunkai très précis !
Zengeri, the book is actually called "Shotokan's Secret" by Bruce D. Clayton, I own it and it's definately worth a read.
thank you
I like it
When I mean about limiting the technique to just two techniques applies to any bunkai. That's because (as Buckmuscles had mentioned below) your opponent will not be just standing there while you move from technique to technique. It's a natural reaction for an aggressive person to punch without thought of rhythm or timing and move around, even if after he is hit, especially in the midsection where it takes time for the pain to register. When analyzing bunkai, always keep this in mind.
@uglybusker
i concur. my instructor preaches the same as well. there are endless possibilities to bunkai, why limit yourself? nor can you claim "this is the traditional way!" because each instructor views the bunkai differently. to deny that is to deny the proper respect that goes to all karate pioneers be it goju, wado, shotokan, shito, etc
part 2 of my previous message. after-all my safety is prime. and by chin i mean jaw, which is the easiest place to hit to end all violence by knock out, not to mention the throat is made of tissue which isn't effected well be being struck, gripped maybe. also i was stating one punch in the jaw would suffice not repeated amounts.
Do you mean in general? Or just for this particular kata?
Hi there. Why don't you use the final barai as a throw? It seems quite obvious and more " usefull" than a backward facing groin strike... Turn of hip while holding opponent= throw him?
why go for the groin with the last tech? I"d go for the head which is right there asitting target wanting to be hit.
good. oss.
I don't disagee with the vid entirely, although turning your back on someone in a fight isn't how I teach Bunkai. Personally I teach the end part as a throw. The trailing leg takes them over while both hands are used to move the upper body. By doing this you avoid the use of dead hands (or the 'spare hand goes on belt' idea). You also end up facing the same way as the opponent.
I don't have all the answers. No one does. Thanks for sharing your views.
If 'everything is based on something' how can jujutsu, or anything, be 'the root of all martial arts'?
arigato gosaimachita
Why should you punch in kosa dachi?
You don't stand and punch in kosa dachi, you drive forwards with all your weight into the punch, the back leg follows through for distance.
Think stored momentum rather than a static thrust
Please note, this is "a possible" bunkai to Empi. No one can seriously say that there is only Bunkai. If you blindly deny that there is no other way it could or should ever be done, then you will never be able to get a fuller and more rounded understanding of Karate (or anything else, for that matter!) And that is what I want, personally. I honestly think that the more possible Bunkai (including the traditional ones), the better. But that is just my opinion. what does everyone else think?
lol haha can i ask what rank you are. that was purely and beginner comment. let ask you this. do your self defense not have grabbling? do you not use wrist locks? most of my jujutsu is all on my feet. you never heard of aki-jujutsu? research some more then come back to me. just for the record i also train in Okinawan kobujitsu. the same system master odo taught.
better than nothing for sure, basic application but better than japanese ;-)
the middle part of this bukai is good, the entrance isnt sufficient though- why would i use a gedan barai for something like that, also punching the throat makes no sense when the chin is right next to it in clear way. the ending as said in previous comments would have made a better throw- hitting the groin makes no sense once again wespecially when the previous attack way a punch to the face, whats wrong with just hitting the face again, and again, and again. nothing.
ya im with tummayo. great up to the last tech and then it got a bit um silly. nice try but not so much.
well sir what is your bunkai of this kata. Jujutsu is, in my opinion, the root of all Martial Arts. Whether its Aiki-jujutsu, etc. Every thing is based on something. Call it what you will. But if this bunkai meets the needs of the kata who are you to denounce it.
Gostei XD
Salam
The practice of kata has the only function of practicing the movements and techniques in the air before application to an opponent, just like shadow boxing. Of course, shadow boxing is much better for these proposes, so we can say kata is some kind of "primitive" shadow boxing practice, and it stays that way because karate is an art that likes to conserve tradition.
Not the part of the Kata that needs translation. This is atleast similar to what 90% of shotokan people teach for ths set of moves. It's pretty straight forward.
tu sais le karate j en fait depuis 30ans j ai 49 ans alors je dit ce que je pense,je suis eleve a valera et suis 5edan khyokushin,voila ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry... Should have read the other comments first....
And thats the exact point of bunkai. Why would they create kata if it was just to "shuffle" kihon around? The application of kata was not lost. If the application was lost, so would the kata and karate itself but it hasnt. Kata was always meant to have the student discover the applications for themselves.
Think about it, even Bruce Lee believed that he'd rather master a few good and flexible techniques for a fight then be sub-par in hundreds of them.
+ shinkyokushin
To have a working knowledge/ non-static understanding of the movements unlimited applications. I just dont think you train bunkai, so you're insecure about it because you dont understand it and you're not very confident in your own training.
argue children about bunkai and its unlimited application....limited only by the closed sign on the mind
"What you described is kihon, not kata."
lol. sure.
Its not down block. This is so nontraditional
The application is not realistic and practical for a defense purpose. The downward block is not a downward block at all. During the time Karate was for defending against an armed attacker. therefore blocking is not the first move at all. It is evading, grabbing and punching to the underarm or face. Today many practisioners of Karate have not understood what the movement says, and they stick to what has been imparted to them.
Dwao;od
انت تبي تطبق الكاتا ولاتطلع حرتك فيه ههههههههههههههههه
Monsieur porquoi ne vous aller pas a un. tatami et veras que le box ne rien avoir avec le karate.Cet outil cet pour ensegne les applications du Kata ne pas pour dire a les personnes vous combien de effectivite il ya dans la technique de Karate. Aller au tatami. Si vous ne le troouve pas bonne porqoui vus la regardez PAJUDO.
WTF are you talking about? Karate Kata is the Karateka's encyclopedia of movements and transitions. Bunkai is mean to explore all the applications of karate movement. The old masters preserved all the basics in kata. The applications arent meant to be static or limited. That's the whole fucking point and you missed it by a mile.
I think peolpe who talk to much have no breath for good bunkai. Talk less, practice more. We have eyes to see what you are doing anyway.
tous ca ca sert a rien,le karate c est la finalite du combat,c est a dire l efficacite,arretons de rever,allez sur le ring et vous verrez ou dans la rue oussssssssssssssss
that last move is just not good. not practical.
Honestly, it would be better to master the fundamental techniques and learn how to apply it in as many situations you can think of. That way you know the full use of your tools.