The best thing about Andrew-Peter catching MJ is the way he executes it; in an instant he grabs her, spins to reposition her, shoots a web as a tether, and lands with bended knees. He didn't just catch her, he did everything possible to prevent whiplash. He'd clearly been revisiting Gwen's fall over and over in his head to imagine what he could have done differently.
Having Andrew Garfield's Peter save MJ is a great example of how this movie treated him and Tobey's Spidermen as actual characters with arcs and emotions, as opposed to being tools to help Tom Holland's Peter stop the bad guy.
Yes honestly, that was one of the best things about this movie. It was that it gave many characters the resolution that we all secretly wanted over the years, giving them the respect that they deserved. It was a big surprise seeing something like this good, considering how many movies now a days are mostly just action, with little depth. This movie is truly stellar.
No Mysterio, Vulture and No Kraven the Hunter I really hope it's Far from Home isn't the last we see of Jake Gyllenhaal's Mysterio in the MCU, maybe we get an alternative reality version of him or he's actually alive in the current universe and never was actually killed after all Mysterio is full of plot twists and mind fucks
I still find it so amazing they casted 3 Spiderman so perfectly. People have their favourites but at the end of the day it's insane how well all three were in their respective movies
Brings me back to that one funny comment i read saying something along the lines of, "you know this whole scene is actually improvised, one day Willem DaFoe just showed up in costume and beat the shit out of Tom and left"
Alfred Molina came into these Spider-Man movies with the soul of a real actor and because of that you really feel every emotion he is feeling. However Williem Defoe came into these movies to be a cartoon character ripped right out of the comics and he KILLS IT every time. Every time I watch Defoe as Green Goblin I am impressed by how hard he goes at it.
the difference between the two absolutely fits their characters too, doc ock is a tortured man with a lot of conflicting emotions, and green goblin is essentially just an unhinged, pure evil murderer
Alfred Molina: wanted to make fans happy Andrew Garfield: wanted to give his version of Spider-Man that long overdue redemption Willem Defoe: wanted to kick the crap outta Tom Holland
The fact his entrances matches their personalities: Andrew jumping and being energetic as hell and Tobey coming through the portal carefully and super civilized
I honestly thought they’d just have Tobey and Andrew show up just for the final fight, so I was extremely pleased by the chatting scenes with all the Peters. It was pure fan service, but the best kind of fan service.
It's a gentle melding between fan service and meaningful character development. Seeing Tom's Peter open up to his counterparts was the best possible outcome for him who's now forgotten by everyone in the multiverse.
I hadn't watched any of the trailers, I just knew they were in it. So for me, I was surprised by how late they showed up, but I feel it was just at the right moment.
If you replaced the 2 other spidermen and the multiverse villains with generic non nostalgic versions of them, I still believe this movie works. Its icing on a cake, the cake is delicious on its own, but the icing makes it taste a little bit better
Love how andrew showed up in costume because he is more spidey than Peter at that point and Toby showed up as Peter because he completed his ark and is more Peter than Spider-Man
i know it’s overly said at this point, but i really love that andrew’s spiderman got a bit of redemption in saving tom’s “gwen”. he leapt after her instead of trying to save her with his webs & his raw emotion when he asks if MJ is okay was just so powerful. it’s sad because you realize why he’s crying, but it’s a sweet moment that’s sort of full circle for him.
@sex the elmo he used his webs to sling him faster. Also, Peter’s arc at the end of tasm 2 only concluded with him knowing he wanted to be spider man again. Nothing suggests that he WOULDNT be rageful and bitter. Especially considering he started doing the one thing that got her killed in the first place
It's likely Peter Parker spent years replaying the death of Gwen Stacy over a million times in his head, thinking of what he could have done differently.
The scene where Andrew Garfield's Spiderman saves MJ always gets me. He probably replayed the scenario in his head a million times over after Gwen died, thinking "If I'd just done this instead, she'd still be alive." So of course he was able to jump to the opportunity and save MJ's life.
I couldn't even enjoy it when i saw it in theater it was spoiled the week the movie released and I was so angry that people can't even go on the internet and not see spoilers for a movie that just released
one critique I had with Tobey's movies is that there are like 10 second scenes where the camera is zoomed in on his face and he's just STARING, his big eyes filled with meaning, and it was so incredibly slow, but the fact that he used the TobeyStareTM to stop Tom from killing Green Goblin made it all worth it
i really liked how the movie gave ANDREW the first introduction instead of tobey. like yeah, we were all hyped to see tobey even with him just slowly walking into the light when the portal opened, but andrew got to be the big reveal. it's something small, but considering how dirty his spider-man was done, it makes me happy that he gets one of the most *amazing* scenes in the movie.
not only that but they kept up the hype for tobeys spiderman. once andrew got introduced we knew what was coming but we were still processing the fact that they finally brought ANDREW back. then when tobey finally came out they gave him a more OG and wiser spiderman introduction and we lost our minds just like we did for andrew. bro that scene was just perfect.
@@panquake3217 and tbh while i was hype for tobey andrew had such a better entrance tobey kinda felt like a let down in a way not to say i don’t like him in this movie bc i do but wow it just didn’t feel right for some reason
@@jamaaldagreatest2748 honestly tobey really phoned in his entire performance in this movie. i’m aware his peter is supposed to be calmer/more subtle, but it was still very clear he had no passion for the role. andrew was pouring his entire heart and soul into it and tobey was just coasting through a gig… but he was never passionate about playing peter even back in his original movies in the 2000s anyways, and is a crappy person known throughout the industry for being an insufferable nightmare to work with 😅 lmao i grew up with the riami films but have no love for tobey himself, he’s just not that good in any sense
@@princssnasty i’m so glad you said that bc i felt the same way but people called me crazy or mcu fans attacked me for thinking that lol it really did feel phoned in. like he gave the least amount of effort out of the trio
@@jamaaldagreatest2748 ppl are so intensely attached to their nostalgia for the riami films that the mere idea of there being even one single aspect where they aren’t THE #1 BEST possible version makes them all defensive and irrational 😅 tobey will ALWAYS be the best to them, regardless of how utterly mediocre he is next to andrew
Same. I grew up with Tobey, but he was always off to me. I never thought he was a good actor, so him portraying Peter Parker/Spider-Man was always wrong to me. Andrew was the performance that captivated me.
I wish there had been a scene in NWH where Andrew and Tobey ask Tom why there's a shield on the Statue of Liberty. Because that must've seemed so absurd to New Yorkers from an alternate universe where the Avengers don't exist.
Tobey was the one who tried to boost Andrew's own morale, calling him amazing, it was Tobey who stopped Tom from murdering Goblin....yet again they didn't just let him have all the spotlight. Andrew got to save MJ. He talked about how he stopped pulling his punches. And Tom got his moments as well; fighting Goblin just beating the SHT out of him, even giving Tobey a run for his money forcing his knees to almost buckle when Tobey was stopping the glider from being brought down on Norman....Each Spider got their moment in the spotlight, when the writers easily could've swung one way towards Tom, Andrew or Tobey. They handled Spider-Man's legacy in film with respect. Love it.
Andrew has been my favorite since 2012, eventhough I grew up with Tobey. I can't express the sheer bliss I felt in seeing how much the writers gave Andrew a spotlight in this film - he truly stole the movie along with Dafoe... With that being said, I realized after my third viewing that Tobey doesn't get as much love in this film! He gets subtle moments, but overall it's like the writers said, "he's everyone's favorite by default, we don't gotta try that hard with him." Really hope the extended cut has more Tobey!
One of things that I love is that, they showed that Tom's Spidey was gonna kill the Goblin. In most media, when the hero seems like they're gonna deliver the finishing blow to the villain, they either hit to the side or just stop right before their face. Here? No, he was in full kill mode. The only reason he stopped was because of Toby.
And I like that it connected with the story. The other spidermans talked about how they didn't pull their punches after their trauma and Tom was about to do the same.
@@SirArthurTheGreat Well he did get majorly screwed over by fishbowl man and thus lead to a few issues if he broke that man early things would have gone better so this is an important step for him :3
Dude, May's death still makes me tear up. The way she stands up, unaware that she probably caused internal bleeding by even moving. How Tom Holland's last words to her are "It's just us", which is what it's always been for them. Peter and her have been together alone for almost his entire life; so those last words really hit hard.
I feel like Andrew signed on to this movie with a mission, to prove to everyone that he isn't just Peter #3, he IS the amazing Spider-Man. It took me rewatching TASM movies more recently with an older perspective in prep for seeing this in cinemas, and this movie, to finally appreciate it. But this whole movie was a dream come true, to the point where I was there on opening night in my country joining in the standing ovation when the Spider-Men showed up. I'll even unashamedly forgive this movie on its flaws.
TASM movies are not nearly as bad as people make them out to be. Andrew got shit on mainly because he was the first spiderman since Tobey and people were not ready to let tobey go. so once they made up their mind about andrew being terrible, it made the next spiderman more easily accepted along with the MCU entry hype made people not shit on him like they did with andrew. Now so many love andrew, kind pisses me off.
Raimi was still too recent when TASM released, and that ruined TASM for me. But then like, 1.5yr ago it was on a steam app I had. Watched it with my wife and we loved it. This is obviously also in the middle of MCU spider man's movies. With the time away, Garfield became our favorite spider films. Same with our kids as well.
i never had a problem with andrew. his performances were great. tasm 2 was just a hot mess. I feel bad for him because he did everything he could to save it, but it still dies, like gwen.
Fun fact: in the concept art for NWH mysterio was actually gonna be the final member not sure why they cut him out but they’re possibly going to bring him back later
I think they cut him so the audience didn't get confused and maybe thinking that mysterio made up all of the villains like he did in the last movie but it could be any number of reasons.
I absolutely love that Willem Dafoe and Alfred Molina came back for this. And I love even more that they've not only brought their characters back, but made me think they're fully who they're playing. I don't see actors with them, I see their characters. Same with Andrew and Toby
I almost cried when Andrew saved Zendaya. Andrew has such an expressive face and you could see all of the hurt, grief, anger, and relief that he saved MJ, but a piece of himself that had been hurting for such a long time. I just wished they lingered a liiiiittle more on it.
I’m personally more of a Tobey guy, but I honestly cannot knock on either of the other actors. They’re all incredible actors and they’re all spiderman, Tobey just feels like the MOST Spider-Man for me personally.
People: Toby's Spiderman isn't funny enough like the comics Toby's Spiderman: 'that's a cute outfit, did your husband make it for you?' 'Say cheese' 'Go Web, fly, up up and away Web, shazam, go Web, go Web go!!' 'Let mum and dad talk for a minute will ya?' Takes the guys pizza slice as he was about to eat it 'You have a nack for getting into trouble' 'It's you who's out Gobby, out of your mind' Shall I go on?
I’ve never been in a movie theater that cheered during movies but when Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire showed up the feeling in the theater was like no other
In my theater the day this dropped when the portal opened and we see andrew you hear this gasp and excited noise and when he jumped through and took his mask off we all screamed with joy now when tobey was coming my bestfriend and this random dude next to me we all held hands with excitement and then he comes through grown men and women clapped and cheered and one guy shouts “THATS MY SPIDER-MAN!!!”
It’s great that anytime that Dafoe’s Goblin meets any Spider-Man he almost beats him to death. Like, they had to go to ANOTHER universe to find a villain that makes more of an impact than Thanos
Toby Maguire explains uncle Ben's death and how it affected him as if he were repeating the list of events that led to the present, while watching Andrew Garfield explain Gwen's death feels like he's actually reliving the trauma while telling everyone.
Well, that's because they were, Toby is older and had more time to properly cope and come to terms with it, it would be a bit strange if he turned into a blubbering mess over it.
@@strash. ye its the movies not the actor. His always been absolutely brilliant as spider-man its just the amazing spider-man movies didnt give him the opportunity to show off how good he was
@@strash. yeah he did nail it right? Being quippy. Yes. He nailed it. He is talking to the villain while the villain is running people over?? Cars being thrown around? Do me a favour, instead of watching the movies watch the shows and read some comics and you will understand why these stick out. NWH fixed his Peter made him not too cool but still having the Andrew vibe. Also he is perfect Spider-Man right? He literally, with his girlfriend overloaded a villain without trying even once to SAVE him. Spider-Man ALWAYS, even if the outcome is awful, tries his hardest to save everyone. That's his thing, he tries to save them not cause more massacre and that's why when JJJ calls him out a menace it sticks out. If you called Andrews Spider-Man a menace in tasm 2, yeah he fits. He is trying to look cooler than being responsible. Tom's version jumped in fire to save the villain. I grew up with Tobey but I grew up with the shows and comics as well and tbh Tobey had only one movie that was good and it's SM2 even though it had some writing problems and he is also another Spider-Man who let's the villain die.
The scene where Andrew Garfield catches MJ is such a good scene, and this is literally the only movie where it was possible to have any scene of it's kind, getting to save someone in the same way you failed to save another person, only you're doing it for an alternate universe version of yourself, and the person you're saving means the same to that version of you as the person you failed to save did to you. It's a ridiculously complicated scenario and it's beautiful
Agreed. I really like Tom Holland's version of Spiderman and he's a great actor in my opinion and it's a shame that so many people simply dismiss him as Spiderman to praise someone else and how much better they are at the role and it's pretty frustrating ngl I'm guessing nostalgia also plays a big role in the way Tom is being treated by the fans im comparison to the OG actors.
personally, i really enjoyed marisa tomei’s performance as aunt may. i thought her death was tragic, not just because of its impact on peter, but because i was sad we wouldn’t get to explore her character further. she died young, still in her prime, still in the middle of her story. that’s something unexplored in most “aunt may’s”.
Exactly I cried because it reminded me of when I first watched homecoming, it reminded me of the little montage of peter and may where may helps him tie a tie and helps him get ready for homecoming, it reminded me of when Peter came back from vacation and hugged may, that moment with May's death was truly heart breaking and to double down on that we got a scene of j.j.j trash talking Spidey while pete watches him silently standing in rain
I didn't mind her. She had some good moments. But her death threw me off because it opens way too many problematic questions about Uncle Ben. Did he not give the "great power, great responsibility" talk to Peter? Was she just mentioning it again to further hammer it home? If he didn't give it then why did Peter become Spider-Man at all? I thought from Civil War that they mostly had the same origin story just not needing to show it. But with May's death, I think they almost need to go and cover that now in a flashback. And I can't even consider her death tragic. It was her fault she died. Everything they did with the villains was basically her idea. She just paid for her own choices. Can argue she chose to do the right thing. But that still makes it a price she herself had to pay. Just like how Peter had to pay the price for his own choices in getting his existence forgotten. So in that sense it wasn't a tragic death, but a necessary price paid.
@@Flaris I don't think you understood....well, anything really. I tried to find a singular point of your misunderstanding but there isn't one. First of all, i don't think there ever *was* an Uncle Ben in Tom's Spiderman backstory, or at the very least if there was he wasn't the one to set Peter on that path, so no, he never got to hear that speech. Him giving that speech has nothing to do with Peter becoming Spiderman in the first place, it has to do with teaching Peter the reality of responsibilities and consequences of one who has powers after the fact. And you don't seem to understand the meaning of the word 'tragic'. Her death was absolutely tragic, yes she is the one who pushed Peter to help the villains, she wanted him to not take the easy excuse way and let them die, but to help people whenever he can, because that IS the point of the speech, when you have great power you have the responsibility to help people with it. And she died teaching him that lesson, by one of the very people she pushed him to try and help, that is extremely tragic. Whose 'fault' it was doesn't come into it.
I just really like that it was Tobey who told Andrew that he was amazing, and that he was the one who stopped Tom from killing someone. He was such a dad to the other spiders it was great. And there was no dick measuring contest, there was no quipping between the others, when they did it wasn't in mean spirit, cause that's not Peter, when Tobey and Andrew are talking about their special spots, The Chrysler Building vs Empire State, it doesn't feel forced, it's all natural. And the very first time they meet MCU Peter, it's because they want to help him. BECAUSE THAT'S PETER TO HIS CORE. Each actor brings something different to Peter Parker; Tom is the best ALL AROUND Peter, good at both Spider-Man and Peter, Tobey is a great Peter but not so good Spider-Man, Andrew is a GREAT Spider-Man terrible Peter. But seeing them all here, you're just like "wait hold on no no they ARE all Spider-Man." and that's good writing. It's a CELEBRATION of Spider-Man, not a competition. But it still pays respect to Tobey, the OG, Andrew the underrated underdog, and Tom, the newbie. GOD this movie is a masterclass in how fan service can and should serve the PLOT not the FANS. You CANNOT write Tobey and Peter out of this movie, and still make it work. It's genius.
It's just a fact that Tom's spidey is the weakest. The main reason people came to watch this movie was to see Andrew and Toby no question I know I did.
@@Infrared-nyne "The main reason people came to watch this movie was to see Andrew and Tobey." Oh really I thought the reason people watched it was because they wanted to see a SPIDER-MAN movie. * off with that self righteous "well I ONLY saw it for TOBEY OR ANDREW OR TOM" BS. It's not cute. It doesn't make you look superior, it just makes you basic.
@@Infrared-nyne I watched it cause I wanted to see how Tom would navigate having his _life ruined_ by Mysterio. Turns out he just made everything worse cause that's just how his life works. Poor Peter.
@@thewatcher6969 all the movie confirmed was that Spider-Man can’t be Peter Parker ☹️ and that’s the saddest part of his character and I’m glad they took their time with Tom’s trilogy to confirm that.
I agree with this comment wholeheartedly, except for the "Tobey is good peter, Andrew is good spooderman, Tom is good both" garbage. By which metric are you deciding that? There are way too many iterations of Spider-Man over the character's decades long run in, not only comics, but a whole bunch of other media. The fact is, they're all great and each bring a unique style to the character, each actor taking inspiration either from the original '60s comics, the Ultimate universe, and many other great storylines
I love the idea of Tobey Spiderman watching the TV and seeing Jay Jonah Jameson being slightly different but it's still him. Like Peter is different in different universes, but the universes agreed Jay had to stay the same
The best part of this video for me is the running Sandman gag. I’m just picturing loads of different death scenes in different movies but with Sandman coming in and just saying “DID YOU KILL THEM?? I don’t trust you, I don’t KNOW you!”
In a weird way I got kinda emotional watching this because it’s the culmination of all the Spider-Man commentary tracks I’ve spent the last 9 years of my life watching/ listening. I don’t listen to them as much as I used to now that I’m an adult but occasionally I’ll go back to reflect the nostalgia overload that was my high school years. From the bottom of my heart, thank you Eric, Mike, and Jake for all the years of pure joy you’ve provided me. And I can’t wait to continue listening for years to come!
I always feel like it’s weird how much people debate the Aunt May scene because Uncle Ben got away with existing just to die within minutes of us meeting him for years but we got several movies with this May
For me I just never connected with this May because she never felt like a character to me. Even though Ben himself is a plot device, he still felt like a person who made an impact and has a history. Never felt that with this May personally
I just wish they acknowledged Ben and the lessons he taught Peter, and then have May reinforce those lessons further in NWH. It would've worked better for the death scene. Dunno why they wanna avoid Ben so bad.
I feel it's because we never really had a moment in this trilogy before NWH when May really did something that stuck with us. We know there was a big fight when she found out but we never saw it and we never saw her getting around to accepting that he is Spider-Man and choosing to help him while telling him he's a symbol that could help beyond crime fighting.
I don’t know if this came up in the full commentary but I feel a scene people overlook is the scene of Peter and Hapoy at May’s grave Happy: how did you know her? Peter: …through Spider-Man The fact he can’t even bring himself to mention he was May’s nephew is so painful
My favorite part about the apartment fight is when Norman throws Peter through the wall and Norman then enters the scene, his shadow makes his hood from his sweater look like the goblin in a way. Great visual storytelling to show the Goblin has taken control
“No Way Home” is a movie that you can absolutely nitpick to death, but the strengths are SO incredibly strong that the issues weirdly don’t feel like they matter that much. The nostalgic elements are utilized brilliantly because they ENHANCE Tom’s story, rather than distract from it.
No . This movie is trash . With some okay scenes . And is ONLY worth watching for Andrew which how they came into the universe was THE dumbest shit ever . Neds fucking grandmas house ? No . Jus no .
@@WZ4RD3 Im so glad i'm easily amused, it makes like so much better to not be angry at movies and just have fun and enjoy. You can show me a great movies im having a chill time, show me a bad movie and im also having a chill time
@@maicoltenjou7572 I mean I also have standards. I love art films so much and I know a master piece when I see one but also I love having a good time. Like someone will say something is trash but I will look at the small things that were good. Maybe the composition was great, maybe the music was good, maybe the costume was nice. Like dont always be so negative and appreciate the things that were well done
This is one of the first times I’m truly appreciating the amount of effort you put into editing these highlight tracks as I’ve listened to this track in the entirety well over 4 times at this point. Hearing all the bits and observations from various places throughout the track rearranged to segwey from subject to joke and back again is trippy to someone who can almost recite this thing, but incredibly impressive
Spider-Man 2 permanently made Tobey Maguire and that movie the best out of them all to me. There are only a few things that have made me tear up in my life and when Peter says "I'm Spider-Man, no more" just like in the comics, it got me. Spider-Man 2 is also my favorite movie of all time.
I really enjoyed your conversation about the you felt about Andrew is born to play this role. And I believe that too. You can see the joy on his face when he plays him.
my interpretation is that they very intentionally stopped at five villains as to say "this isn't MCU sinister six, we're building one of our own in the future". establishing a sinister six in no way home also means we never see any of the sinister six ever again, which would be a bummer. so i think they stopped at five to make the statement that they wanna make a sinister six that's actually gonna stick around and all have personal relationships with mcu peter as well.
The issue with that, all the villains so far in the MCU that Peter has face are gone…. Vulture in the Sony verse. And Mysterio is tbh. So unless they add 2 villains in the next movie then another 2 so that the 6th movie is the Sinister 6 that’s too much
@@malfaroangel3896 they could easily just say mysterio didn’t die, and if they just said the Morbius post credit scene wasn’t canon I don’t think anybody would be mad. Also shocker and scorpion still have beef with Spider-Man so that’s 4
@@malfaroangel3896 i definitely see vulture and mysterio coming back in some capacity. add in michael mando's scorpion, maybe shocker, future mcu venom, & kingpin (crossing my fingers especially for him) and you've got a sinister six entirely built from scratch which i think is the mcu's long term approach
Yeah, I think originally though they were definitely planning it to be the Sinister 6, judging by the concept art of Mysterio returning. I definitely think that Mysterio will in some way return, even if Quentin Beck is dead. His team is still out there, so they could easily pull a couple spare drones out of their garage, and if they could even bring Jake back via hologram. Besides him, Vulture & Scorpion, I don't know who else would be an obvious option.
@@malfaroangel3896 Vulture, Shoker and Scorpion are all still in the MCU.... And no, the Vulture in Morbius is not the MCU one, same actor and design, different universe.
This movie solved my biggest issue with the MCU Spider-Man, in the other two movies, he never throws a punch. He tries in Mysterio's ilusion but that hit a concrete pillar, we never actually see him HIT any of his villains.
Also the villains don't use guns on Spiderman for the simple fact that he's usually prepared to dodge them anyways like he's done in the movies, comics and tv series. It was just this moment where Peter was emotionally detached from everything and everyone else other than Aunt May which revealed a blind spot.
Here's my take on it (not a spiderman expert so I could be way off here but) theoretically he can only dodge so many bullets at a time right? Like surely if you shoot at him enough all at once he's bound to get hit
Even if you try that, remember he can tear out a wall and use that as a shield. And bullets are linear, where you point, the bullets go. His spidey sense let's him know where you're going to aim before you do. It is VERY difficult for a normal human to hit Spiderman in any way.
honestly, Willem is just a next level actor. he can do anything and makes it work. he chews up and elevates everything he is in. Willem deserves soooo much more recognition than he gets.
18:10 I love how Andrew Garfield just stands still for a second. Rubble is falling everywhere, and you can see this guy is paying so much attention to his spider-senses. Once he knows they're safe, he cries.
I saw this in a theatre where only four people including myself watched it and boy we all gave our own cheer for Andrew's Spider man saving MJ, it was beautiful
My relationships with Andrew movies makes me weep for his Influencer movie not being as well received because he makes that movie real fun regardless of how technically terrible it is
The running joke with Sandman saying, “Did you kill him/her?” was hilarious!! It was also cool to see you guys back together again, I felt like it was 2012
*Aunt may dies* “Sandman comes around the corner, DID YOU KILL HER?!!” “I just wanna kill your myself” “ARE YOU GONNA KILL THAT GUY?? Sandman comes in” God these sandman jokes are top tier LMAOO
Idk Sandman coming from around the corner just when Peter's loved one dies feels more-so like a callback to Spider-Man 3 when he explains Uncle Ben's death to him
The thing I love about this trilogy is that one of the biggest criticisms of marvel films is a lot of them are just generic origin stories without any real uniqueness to them. Then right at the end of this film we end up back at classic, alone, poor, neighbourhood spidey and Kevin Feige yells "surprise, it was an origin story all along!" drops the mic and then laughs maniacally as he flys off in the Thanos-copter.
This movie kinda felt like a course correction to me. As a trilogy it doesn’t feel like it really builds off of what the first two were doing, but I easily thought this was the best one so I don’t care lol
Yeah Idek, if it wasn’t for Andrew and tobey signing on to make the whole multiverse thing possible, not sure if that would’ve been the final result. They got lucky imo
9:40 I didn't know such an emotional scene could be ruined for me, because now, whenever I watch this scene, I can't NOT imagine Sandman just running in like that
18:43, I am a staunch believer that the whistle is meant to imitate the Goblin blade sound that you heard from the 3rd Tobey Movie that the new goblin uses. Franco's goblin attacks Spiderman and all of his blades whistle when he swings them.
For what it’s worth, they honestly did their BEST job in preventing leaks, one can only imagine how much better this movie would’ve been if the pandemic didn’t happen, but it’s still a great movie
I will never forget that last scene, I watched this movie in theatres on Christmas Eve and seeing Spider-Man swing around a giant ass Christmas tree with snow everywhere made me so exited for that night
this just makes me crave another andrew garfield spiderman. his story needs to continue post gwen. tobey's feels complete for the most part, and tom's films feel like its finally set for him to be spiderman and we dont need to see more, which im fine with but i need more from AG's spiderman. i want to see that darker version asap.
Man, I love when you three are together. Such nostalgia for you. I watched all through college, and now I’m a married man. You guys bring me so much joy. Spider-Man brings me so much joy. Thank you for all the years of content. Love you, goons.
Glad to see the OG crew back together for this! I remember when I met you guys while waiting in line for a special screening of like the first 15 mins of The Amazing Spider-Man back in 2012 in the city. Andrew Garfield showed up in the theater and surprised us all haha that was a great day.
21:57 See, this movie did change my life a lil bit with that whole profound impact thing. It was Andrew Garfield's moment that did it. Do y'all remember just how badly the Amazing Spiderman films were crapped on at the time? Rotten Tomatoes is kinder now with more recent reviews, but when the movies came out, people were *mad.* It'd only been 5 years since Spiderman 3, and people were bitching up and down that Andrew Garfield wasn't _their_ Spiderman, "it's all a cash grab", etc, etc. Flash forward 10 years, and people screamed, clapped and jumped out of their seats when he came through the portal. All hard feelings weren't just washed away - it was like they never existed. There's zero way in 2012/2014 anyone would believe that someday, years in the future, he would be in a new Spiderman movie...and everyone would lose their goddamn minds over him. I don't know, it feels like a huge life lesson, that we can't judge things based on one moment in time. Sometimes, our redemption arcs...well....they just take awhile to complete.
it makes me so happy because the TRAUMA he went thru during and after those movies where he like didn’t even want to talk about it (also just sony execs treating like a non human) and now he’s just so happy to talk about it because he got that closure and second chance and work with people who actually understand spiderman like he did ahhhh it makes my heart happy
it really makes me happy that the movie allowed andrew garfield to be the big reveal. they could've easily had tobey be the spider-man to come out of the first portal, and people would've lost their minds, but they let it be andrew. it felt like a bit of homage to him. like 'we know we did him wrong, so have this scene to make up for it.' now his scene of running and jumping out of the portal is going down in marvel movie history and he deserves it.
The issue most people I've spoken to about TASM have was nothing to do with Andrew, and knew who spiderman was, everyone else just got in the way. It's the same issue alot of people had with Peter Capeldi as Dr. Who, that the actor was perfect, the writing ruined it. So when Andrew returned, everyone was excited see HIS spiderman, not the corporate mess that he was forced to be
@@remyuk it works so well because Toby, as the OG spiderman, would steal the show and Andrew would be an after thought. But by having Andrew first, he gets his moment in the spotlight, where you care about his character on his own, as well as a build up to Toby. Like the opening band, you love them on their own, but they also build up the main event. Not trying to downplay Andrew, but you know it wouldn't of felt so amazing if they appeared Toby first.
This movie was supposed to come out after Multiverse of Madness and after watching that it really shows. Everything that felt clunky about the Multiverse in NWH was explained in MOM. The build up to really cool "Cameos" that people felt disappointed by in MOM would've made more sense if that was leading into NWH. Literally this movie obviously ends in an incursion! That's clearly what's happening at the end there! When all the villains are coming to the MCU! That's the universes colliding!
The impact Mysterio left on Spider-Man‘s life is constantly referenced throughout the movie from beginning to end, therefore, Mysterio (or the mere memory of Mysterio) is the sixth member of the sinister six, despite the fact that these villains don’t necessarily work as a team half the time, so technically they’re not really the sinister six to begin with.
You can tell that this movie was made especially for the fans and I love that. I can accept and play blind with some flaws in the logic of the plot just because the three Peter's are together. Once they appeared, nothing else mattered to me
I’ve seen this movie a few times and I know exactly what happens. Still, even just watching a highlight reel of a commentary, I cried buckets and cheered when Andrew and Tobey made their grand entrance. For the first time in my life I understood what people mean when they say “my whole life has been leading up to this moment.” In my entire 22 years of life I’ve never seen a movie that’s even come CLOSE to the absolute joy and wonder NWH gave me and I’m just so stupid grateful it exists. Thanks so much for this track, guys. Andrew’s been my favorite Spider-Man since 2012 and I’m so happy he’s finally FINALLY getting the recognition he deserves.
I honestly wouldn't have been mad with an Oscar nominations for a few of the performances in this movie, Alfred Molina, William Defoe, and Andrew Garfield all killed it and imo transcended all performances in the modern MCU.
The part where y’all takes about appreciating letting the web scene go on for a little too long reminded me of the scene in the comics where there’s a multiversal spider war and two spider-men need to reload fluid so they take cover and they just shoot the shit for like a minute
Andrew Garfield's spiderman has always been my favourite, i didn't grow up with tobey's version so no nostalgia factor for me and Tom Holland's version alwyas felt off to me, there's this video called "Spiderman, Class and Militarization" that explain pretty well how i fell about it. Plus Andrew's version is the one that was used for all the crossover in the fandom
tom easily feels the closest to spider-man. I recommend to read amazing fantasy #15 (first spider-man comic) and the ultimate series for a start. I feel like at face value andrew is the very fun spider-man but if you actually read comics it's not even close in my opinion the most accurate is very clear.
13:26 Andrew making it canon that his Spiderman became very depressed and violent honestly fits with the Sony-verse films I feel. I havent seen the second in its entirety but the first is honestly probably the saddest version of Spiderman I've seen (not in comic form ofc)
The thing about the three Spider-Men swinging is that there are subtle details to tell you who's who. Basically, anything involving front flips and that aerial semi-crouch pose is Tobey and anything involving a straight dive and twisting acrobatics is Andrew.
I cried when May died, not really because I was invested in her character, but because it was just so unexpected. They spent all the other movies differentiating this Spider-Man and may never dies in other media that at this point she wasn't even in the conversation for being the uncle Ben type catalyst. But at that moment is when I knew that this movie was just the final act of this multi movie origin story and that shit was about to get real. Honestly this movie does have it's flaws but I don't think I could have ever imagined getting as close to a perfect Spider-Man movie in my lifetime.
IMO, Garfield wasn't a good high school Peter, but he kills it as a college age or early 20's peter. One who's had time to gain confidence as Peter and not just Spider-Man.
@@PrettyMuchIt He feels like Insomniac Spidey tbh. He's confident because he's been Spider-Man for a while, and has a girlfriend and such...but he's also still got that dweeby energy to him, ya know?
This might be my favourite commentary you guys have done because, while you do crack jokes, it’s just three people discussing candidly about a movie they enjoyed. While No Way Home didn’t, entirely, work for me (and I disagree with some of your opinions), it was a once-in-lifetime experience that I had fun with and can happily describe as a ‘blockbuster in its purest form’; so great to hear your enthusiasm and I’m glad you got more out of the film than I did.
I gotta admit, no matter how many years passed by this film. My favorite part will always be the Spider-Man landing in chronological order. Toby Maguiere lands first, then Andrew Garfield, then Tom Holland. It is the perfect medley of all of them & every scene with all three of them together were perfection. I don’t think that you could beat those scenes in any Spider-Man movie combined. It’s just like they were always meant to all be on screen together.
The best thing about Andrew-Peter catching MJ is the way he executes it; in an instant he grabs her, spins to reposition her, shoots a web as a tether, and lands with bended knees. He didn't just catch her, he did everything possible to prevent whiplash. He'd clearly been revisiting Gwen's fall over and over in his head to imagine what he could have done differently.
Fucking hell, didn't think of it like that. Thanks for this
but the actual drop is a terrible SFX Physics
@@karlluigi1987 well...its a super hero movie
@@diegotm4365 how is it relevant, tho?
@@GarcherLun its called suspension of belief for entertainment and immersion purposes.
Having Andrew Garfield's Peter save MJ is a great example of how this movie treated him and Tobey's Spidermen as actual characters with arcs and emotions, as opposed to being tools to help Tom Holland's Peter stop the bad guy.
This movie's writing was absolutely stellar
Yes honestly, that was one of the best things about this movie. It was that it gave many characters the resolution that we all secretly wanted over the years, giving them the respect that they deserved. It was a big surprise seeing something like this good, considering how many movies now a days are mostly just action, with little depth. This movie is truly stellar.
What do you mean? MJ wasn’t in the Amazing Spider-Man movies, are you referring to No Way Home?
@@nsasupporter7557 Obviously he meant no way home , because Andrew's Peter couldn't save his MJ counterpart, Gwen Stacy .
@@nsasupporter7557 there's only one movie where Andrew's Peter Parker saves MJ.
They did have the Sinister Six though, one just decided to stay in Mexico and get drunk
don't you dare
@@PrettyMuchIt It's not the Sinister Six, it's the Fergalious Five
@@PrettyMuchIt “how dare I? No, how dare YOU!”
Six if you include J Jonah Jameson
No Mysterio, Vulture and No Kraven the Hunter
I really hope it's Far from Home isn't the last we see of Jake Gyllenhaal's Mysterio in the MCU, maybe we get an alternative reality version of him or he's actually alive in the current universe and never was actually killed after all Mysterio is full of plot twists and mind fucks
I still find it so amazing they casted 3 Spiderman so perfectly. People have their favourites but at the end of the day it's insane how well all three were in their respective movies
love this perspective!
Goblins laugh when Peter is punching him in the apartments was actually improvised by Willem, Tom said it actually scared him haha
Cause they did the stunt themselves everyone was scared not just him
Got flashbacks to The Dark Knight there
Brings me back to that one funny comment i read saying something along the lines of, "you know this whole scene is actually improvised, one day Willem DaFoe just showed up in costume and beat the shit out of Tom and left"
@@thepikachu176 LMAO
I’m pretty sure Tom wasn’t actually there
Alfred Molina came into these Spider-Man movies with the soul of a real actor and because of that you really feel every emotion he is feeling. However Williem Defoe came into these movies to be a cartoon character ripped right out of the comics and he KILLS IT every time. Every time I watch Defoe as Green Goblin I am impressed by how hard he goes at it.
Absolutely, you put that really well
i agree, but does it not also take the soul of a real actor to kill it as Dafoe does?
the difference between the two absolutely fits their characters too, doc ock is a tortured man with a lot of conflicting emotions, and green goblin is essentially just an unhinged, pure evil murderer
@@LinkinMark1994 Dafoe is just on another level
Alfred Molina: wanted to make fans happy
Andrew Garfield: wanted to give his version of Spider-Man that long overdue redemption
Willem Defoe: wanted to kick the crap outta Tom Holland
The fact his entrances matches their personalities: Andrew jumping and being energetic as hell and Tobey coming through the portal carefully and super civilized
It makes sense. Andrew’s Peter is still dealing with a lot of demons and Tobey’s Peter has finally found peace.
Tbh I love it I still remember the gasps when Andrews portal opened but the gasps were louder when tobeys portal opened up
"I called him gay and I kicked his ass" is genuinely one of the funniest lines I've ever heard in any commentary track, PMI or otherwise
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what PMI mean?
@@cuneyt3830 the channel name
@@cuneyt3830 the Channel , Pretty Much It PMI
@@cuneyt3830 pretty much it
I honestly thought they’d just have Tobey and Andrew show up just for the final fight, so I was extremely pleased by the chatting scenes with all the Peters. It was pure fan service, but the best kind of fan service.
When I saw Zendaya falling in the trailer I was like this is when Andrew Garfield is going to show up I was shocked when he showed up way earlier
It's a gentle melding between fan service and meaningful character development. Seeing Tom's Peter open up to his counterparts was the best possible outcome for him who's now forgotten by everyone in the multiverse.
I hadn't watched any of the trailers, I just knew they were in it. So for me, I was surprised by how late they showed up, but I feel it was just at the right moment.
If you replaced the 2 other spidermen and the multiverse villains with generic non nostalgic versions of them, I still believe this movie works. Its icing on a cake, the cake is delicious on its own, but the icing makes it taste a little bit better
Love how andrew showed up in costume because he is more spidey than Peter at that point and Toby showed up as Peter because he completed his ark and is more Peter than Spider-Man
Yh he had the suit under his clothes kinda showing that he balanced being Spider-Man and peter
This is like watching a movie with really loud talkers - only I came to hear the talking.
adam! long time no talk, hope you're doin well ❤️
@@PrettyMuchIt People like you and Danny Casale inspire me to think it’s never too late for a 2nd TH-cam coming.
@@tayzonday dew it
@@tayzonday please do it my friend
@@tayzonday Such a wholesome comment
i know it’s overly said at this point, but i really love that andrew’s spiderman got a bit of redemption in saving tom’s “gwen”. he leapt after her instead of trying to save her with his webs & his raw emotion when he asks if MJ is okay was just so powerful. it’s sad because you realize why he’s crying, but it’s a sweet moment that’s sort of full circle for him.
@sex the elmo he used his webs to sling him faster. Also, Peter’s arc at the end of tasm 2 only concluded with him knowing he wanted to be spider man again. Nothing suggests that he WOULDNT be rageful and bitter. Especially considering he started doing the one thing that got her killed in the first place
@@KCS-ep7tv you said it better than i could’ve, thank you!!
@sex the elmo my brother in christ, I feel like you might have lost the plot completely.
@sex the elmo weirdo
It's likely Peter Parker spent years replaying the death of Gwen Stacy over a million times in his head, thinking of what he could have done differently.
Alfred Molina and Willem Dafoe sharing scenes in their respective Spiderman roles was truly a wonder to watch
incredible stuff
And they were so excited
it was the world building that we wanted from the Raimi trilogy.
I was as a giddy as a kid at Christmas. Everytime they were on screen I was just enthralled with them.
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12:04 I’m so glad someone else finally mentioned how Tobey and Andrew had different sound effects for their webs being shot
That Sandman "did you kill him" line is going to be popping up in future commentary tracks, I can just feel it
Did you kill him 🗿
The scene where Andrew Garfield's Spiderman saves MJ always gets me. He probably replayed the scenario in his head a million times over after Gwen died, thinking "If I'd just done this instead, she'd still be alive." So of course he was able to jump to the opportunity and save MJ's life.
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only thing he did different wasn't even up to him. he was just closer to MJ so saving her was easy. Gwen was far as hell
I couldn't even enjoy it when i saw it in theater it was spoiled the week the movie released and I was so angry that people can't even go on the internet and not see spoilers for a movie that just released
Kinda ruined by the goofy cgi at the end though
one critique I had with Tobey's movies is that there are like 10 second scenes where the camera is zoomed in on his face and he's just STARING, his big eyes filled with meaning, and it was so incredibly slow, but the fact that he used the TobeyStareTM to stop Tom from killing Green Goblin made it all worth it
I love those moments in the old movies
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That’s what made those movies good though imo Tobey is very good at displaying emotion from facial acting all in eyes especially
You mean they exhibited his emotions through facial expression and no dialogue?
Yeah what a damn shame.
So good shots are bad now?
i really liked how the movie gave ANDREW the first introduction instead of tobey. like yeah, we were all hyped to see tobey even with him just slowly walking into the light when the portal opened, but andrew got to be the big reveal. it's something small, but considering how dirty his spider-man was done, it makes me happy that he gets one of the most *amazing* scenes in the movie.
not only that but they kept up the hype for tobeys spiderman. once andrew got introduced we knew what was coming but we were still processing the fact that they finally brought ANDREW back. then when tobey finally came out they gave him a more OG and wiser spiderman introduction and we lost our minds just like we did for andrew. bro that scene was just perfect.
@@panquake3217 and tbh while i was hype for tobey andrew had such a better entrance tobey kinda felt like a let down in a way not to say i don’t like him in this movie bc i do but wow it just didn’t feel right for some reason
@@jamaaldagreatest2748 honestly tobey really phoned in his entire performance in this movie. i’m aware his peter is supposed to be calmer/more subtle, but it was still very clear he had no passion for the role. andrew was pouring his entire heart and soul into it and tobey was just coasting through a gig… but he was never passionate about playing peter even back in his original movies in the 2000s anyways, and is a crappy person known throughout the industry for being an insufferable nightmare to work with 😅 lmao i grew up with the riami films but have no love for tobey himself, he’s just not that good in any sense
@@princssnasty i’m so glad you said that bc i felt the same way but people called me crazy or mcu fans attacked me for thinking that lol it really did feel phoned in. like he gave the least amount of effort out of the trio
@@jamaaldagreatest2748 ppl are so intensely attached to their nostalgia for the riami films that the mere idea of there being even one single aspect where they aren’t THE #1 BEST possible version makes them all defensive and irrational 😅 tobey will ALWAYS be the best to them, regardless of how utterly mediocre he is next to andrew
Words cannot describe how happy I am that Andrew Garfield is finally getting the praise he deserves.
Same. I grew up with Tobey, but he was always off to me. I never thought he was a good actor, so him portraying Peter Parker/Spider-Man was always wrong to me. Andrew was the performance that captivated me.
old ass comment but he was a good spider-man in bad spider-man movies. dude deserved better
14:00 *literally just the plot of Across The Spiderverse*
I wish there had been a scene in NWH where Andrew and Tobey ask Tom why there's a shield on the Statue of Liberty. Because that must've seemed so absurd to New Yorkers from an alternate universe where the Avengers don't exist.
bahahahaha good point
Bruh, it’s absurd to the New Yorkers in the MCU lmao
Maybe Captain America exists in the other universes. Spider-Man 2 implies Dr. Strange exists in Tobey's universe at least.
@@TheAzulmagia iirc, there’s a mention of Cap in one of the novelizations?
@@TheAzulmagia that was just a reference to strange, j.j.j just wanted to give doc ock a name so one of the ideas were doctor strange
Tobey was the one who tried to boost Andrew's own morale, calling him amazing, it was Tobey who stopped Tom from murdering Goblin....yet again they didn't just let him have all the spotlight. Andrew got to save MJ. He talked about how he stopped pulling his punches. And Tom got his moments as well; fighting Goblin just beating the SHT out of him, even giving Tobey a run for his money forcing his knees to almost buckle when Tobey was stopping the glider from being brought down on Norman....Each Spider got their moment in the spotlight, when the writers easily could've swung one way towards Tom, Andrew or Tobey. They handled Spider-Man's legacy in film with respect. Love it.
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Hehe swung
Apparently Tom is the strongest strength wise out of them. Read an article saying that Tom is pretty much the MCU's verison of the comics Peter
Andrew has been my favorite since 2012, eventhough I grew up with Tobey. I can't express the sheer bliss I felt in seeing how much the writers gave Andrew a spotlight in this film - he truly stole the movie along with Dafoe... With that being said, I realized after my third viewing that Tobey doesn't get as much love in this film! He gets subtle moments, but overall it's like the writers said, "he's everyone's favorite by default, we don't gotta try that hard with him." Really hope the extended cut has more Tobey!
@@maddoxio I would say Andrew has the best speed and swinging ability out of any of the spiderman he also has the mouth and snark of conic version
One of things that I love is that, they showed that Tom's Spidey was gonna kill the Goblin. In most media, when the hero seems like they're gonna deliver the finishing blow to the villain, they either hit to the side or just stop right before their face. Here? No, he was in full kill mode. The only reason he stopped was because of Toby.
The trade off those spidermans had was real nice that scene
and Andrew getting to in some form save his lover ouchie ouch
And I like that it connected with the story. The other spidermans talked about how they didn't pull their punches after their trauma and Tom was about to do the same.
I really dislike the decision to make Tom Spidey try to kill a guy. Just felt very out-of-character to me, despite his trauma.
@@SirArthurTheGreat bad take
@@SirArthurTheGreat Well he did get majorly screwed over by fishbowl man and thus lead to a few issues if he broke that man early things would have gone better so this is an important step for him :3
Dude, May's death still makes me tear up. The way she stands up, unaware that she probably caused internal bleeding by even moving. How Tom Holland's last words to her are "It's just us", which is what it's always been for them. Peter and her have been together alone for almost his entire life; so those last words really hit hard.
fun fact in homecoming aunt may says "its just me and you" when peter came home sad
I feel like Andrew signed on to this movie with a mission, to prove to everyone that he isn't just Peter #3, he IS the amazing Spider-Man. It took me rewatching TASM movies more recently with an older perspective in prep for seeing this in cinemas, and this movie, to finally appreciate it.
But this whole movie was a dream come true, to the point where I was there on opening night in my country joining in the standing ovation when the Spider-Men showed up. I'll even unashamedly forgive this movie on its flaws.
TASM movies are not nearly as bad as people make them out to be. Andrew got shit on mainly because he was the first spiderman since Tobey and people were not ready to let tobey go. so once they made up their mind about andrew being terrible, it made the next spiderman more easily accepted along with the MCU entry hype made people not shit on him like they did with andrew. Now so many love andrew, kind pisses me off.
Raimi was still too recent when TASM released, and that ruined TASM for me.
But then like, 1.5yr ago it was on a steam app I had. Watched it with my wife and we loved it. This is obviously also in the middle of MCU spider man's movies.
With the time away, Garfield became our favorite spider films. Same with our kids as well.
i never had a problem with andrew. his performances were great. tasm 2 was just a hot mess. I feel bad for him because he did everything he could to save it, but it still dies, like gwen.
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Fun fact: in the concept art for NWH mysterio was actually gonna be the final member not sure why they cut him out but they’re possibly going to bring him back later
I thought either mysterio or vulture were gonna be in it for sure, but I guess they didn't have enough time to explain why they came back
@middle aged man in extreme debt Its multiversal and a comic book move being dead doesn't matter.
It would not make sense because the villians used in the movie all had something to be "cured".
I think they cut him so the audience didn't get confused and maybe thinking that mysterio made up all of the villains like he did in the last movie but it could be any number of reasons.
@middle aged man in extreme debt Green Goblin, Doc Ock, and Electro are dead and it didn't stop the filmmakers from bringing them back.
I absolutely love that Willem Dafoe and Alfred Molina came back for this. And I love even more that they've not only brought their characters back, but made me think they're fully who they're playing. I don't see actors with them, I see their characters. Same with Andrew and Toby
Yes, Dafoe was part of the reason why Spider-Man (2002) was the best Spider-Man movie
I almost cried when Andrew saved Zendaya. Andrew has such an expressive face and you could see all of the hurt, grief, anger, and relief that he saved MJ, but a piece of himself that had been hurting for such a long time. I just wished they lingered a liiiiittle more on it.
That scene does not get the recognition it deserves. People don’t get how important that scene is.
His face absolutely ruins me. Such a great actor
I felt more emotional because of that sence then I have for the rest of the MCU combined
My favorite Spider-Man
dude. i cried my heart out when i saw that part for the first time.
I’m personally more of a Tobey guy, but I honestly cannot knock on either of the other actors. They’re all incredible actors and they’re all spiderman, Tobey just feels like the MOST Spider-Man for me personally.
Right there with you.
People: Toby's Spiderman isn't funny enough like the comics
Toby's Spiderman: 'that's a cute outfit, did your husband make it for you?'
'Say cheese'
'Go Web, fly, up up and away Web, shazam, go Web, go Web go!!'
'Let mum and dad talk for a minute will ya?'
Takes the guys pizza slice as he was about to eat it
'You have a nack for getting into trouble'
'It's you who's out Gobby, out of your mind'
Shall I go on?
@@chassiebazz92 It’s not the things he says that aren’t funny. It’s his delivery. He’s flat every time
@@michaelthatoker7125 well Sam rami didn't give him much to express as Spiderman as much.
@@chassiebazz92 Meanwhile Andrew's Spiderman constantly gives off those creepy stalker vibes.
I’ve never been in a movie theater that cheered during movies but when Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire showed up the feeling in the theater was like no other
Really? I feel like it’s a regular thing now, for better or for worse.
Matt too in my experience
In my theater the day this dropped when the portal opened and we see andrew you hear this gasp and excited noise and when he jumped through and took his mask off we all screamed with joy now when tobey was coming my bestfriend and this random dude next to me we all held hands with excitement and then he comes through grown men and women clapped and cheered and one guy shouts “THATS MY SPIDER-MAN!!!”
It’s great that anytime that Dafoe’s Goblin meets any Spider-Man he almost beats him to death. Like, they had to go to ANOTHER universe to find a villain that makes more of an impact than Thanos
i never took MCU thanos serious. They should made him look more like comic version
@@Max25670 that was a mistake
@Xavier Rivera Death by snu snu is a vary serious matter!
Hahahahahahaha
@@Max25670 the thing with Thanos is that he's strong, but he's not intimidating, he's a rational vilain who pursue an idea that imply lot of death
Toby Maguire explains uncle Ben's death and how it affected him as if he were repeating the list of events that led to the present, while watching Andrew Garfield explain Gwen's death feels like he's actually reliving the trauma while telling everyone.
It had been longer for Tobey than it had been for Andrew. It was less raw and he was less emotional.
Well, that's because they were, Toby is older and had more time to properly cope and come to terms with it, it would be a bit strange if he turned into a blubbering mess over it.
I love that Andrew is getting the recognition he deserves as Spiderman, he is just the best
Yeah i mean they fixed him in this movie.
@@cityescape2031 fixed ?? he’s always been the best spider man actor, maybe not peter but he nailed everything about SM
@@strash. ye its the movies not the actor. His always been absolutely brilliant as spider-man its just the amazing spider-man movies didnt give him the opportunity to show off how good he was
It was so hard being an Andrew Garfield Spider-Man fan before NWH, but now people are finally turning around on him
@@strash. yeah he did nail it right? Being quippy. Yes. He nailed it. He is talking to the villain while the villain is running people over?? Cars being thrown around? Do me a favour, instead of watching the movies watch the shows and read some comics and you will understand why these stick out. NWH fixed his Peter made him not too cool but still having the Andrew vibe. Also he is perfect Spider-Man right? He literally, with his girlfriend overloaded a villain without trying even once to SAVE him. Spider-Man ALWAYS, even if the outcome is awful, tries his hardest to save everyone. That's his thing, he tries to save them not cause more massacre and that's why when JJJ calls him out a menace it sticks out. If you called Andrews Spider-Man a menace in tasm 2, yeah he fits. He is trying to look cooler than being responsible. Tom's version jumped in fire to save the villain. I grew up with Tobey but I grew up with the shows and comics as well and tbh Tobey had only one movie that was good and it's SM2 even though it had some writing problems and he is also another Spider-Man who let's the villain die.
The scene where Andrew Garfield catches MJ is such a good scene, and this is literally the only movie where it was possible to have any scene of it's kind, getting to save someone in the same way you failed to save another person, only you're doing it for an alternate universe version of yourself, and the person you're saving means the same to that version of you as the person you failed to save did to you. It's a ridiculously complicated scenario and it's beautiful
tom holland doesnt get enough credit for his physicality and acting in this movie. absolutely kills it on all levels
Agreed. I really like Tom Holland's version of Spiderman and he's a great actor in my opinion and it's a shame that so many people simply dismiss him as Spiderman to praise someone else and how much better they are at the role and it's pretty frustrating ngl
I'm guessing nostalgia also plays a big role in the way Tom is being treated by the fans im comparison to the OG actors.
Same, stop Tom Holland hate.
when green goblin said “honey” i thought to myself “oh eric is gunna love that line” HAHAHA
personally, i really enjoyed marisa tomei’s performance as aunt may. i thought her death was tragic, not just because of its impact on peter, but because i was sad we wouldn’t get to explore her character further. she died young, still in her prime, still in the middle of her story. that’s something unexplored in most “aunt may’s”.
Exactly
I cried because it reminded me of when I first watched homecoming, it reminded me of the little montage of peter and may where may helps him tie a tie and helps him get ready for homecoming, it reminded me of when Peter came back from vacation and hugged may, that moment with May's death was truly heart breaking and to double down on that we got a scene of j.j.j trash talking Spidey while pete watches him silently standing in rain
She's boring
She was no Aunt May.
I didn't mind her. She had some good moments. But her death threw me off because it opens way too many problematic questions about Uncle Ben. Did he not give the "great power, great responsibility" talk to Peter? Was she just mentioning it again to further hammer it home? If he didn't give it then why did Peter become Spider-Man at all? I thought from Civil War that they mostly had the same origin story just not needing to show it. But with May's death, I think they almost need to go and cover that now in a flashback.
And I can't even consider her death tragic. It was her fault she died. Everything they did with the villains was basically her idea. She just paid for her own choices. Can argue she chose to do the right thing. But that still makes it a price she herself had to pay. Just like how Peter had to pay the price for his own choices in getting his existence forgotten. So in that sense it wasn't a tragic death, but a necessary price paid.
@@Flaris I don't think you understood....well, anything really. I tried to find a singular point of your misunderstanding but there isn't one.
First of all, i don't think there ever *was* an Uncle Ben in Tom's Spiderman backstory, or at the very least if there was he wasn't the one to set Peter on that path, so no, he never got to hear that speech. Him giving that speech has nothing to do with Peter becoming Spiderman in the first place, it has to do with teaching Peter the reality of responsibilities and consequences of one who has powers after the fact.
And you don't seem to understand the meaning of the word 'tragic'. Her death was absolutely tragic, yes she is the one who pushed Peter to help the villains, she wanted him to not take the easy excuse way and let them die, but to help people whenever he can, because that IS the point of the speech, when you have great power you have the responsibility to help people with it. And she died teaching him that lesson, by one of the very people she pushed him to try and help, that is extremely tragic. Whose 'fault' it was doesn't come into it.
I just really like that it was Tobey who told Andrew that he was amazing, and that he was the one who stopped Tom from killing someone.
He was such a dad to the other spiders it was great. And there was no dick measuring contest, there was no quipping between the others, when they did it wasn't in mean spirit, cause that's not Peter, when Tobey and Andrew are talking about their special spots, The Chrysler Building vs Empire State, it doesn't feel forced, it's all natural. And the very first time they meet MCU Peter, it's because they want to help him. BECAUSE THAT'S PETER TO HIS CORE.
Each actor brings something different to Peter Parker; Tom is the best ALL AROUND Peter, good at both Spider-Man and Peter, Tobey is a great Peter but not so good Spider-Man, Andrew is a GREAT Spider-Man terrible Peter. But seeing them all here, you're just like "wait hold on no no they ARE all Spider-Man." and that's good writing. It's a CELEBRATION of Spider-Man, not a competition. But it still pays respect to Tobey, the OG, Andrew the underrated underdog, and Tom, the newbie. GOD this movie is a masterclass in how fan service can and should serve the PLOT not the FANS. You CANNOT write Tobey and Peter out of this movie, and still make it work. It's genius.
It's just a fact that Tom's spidey is the weakest. The main reason people came to watch this movie was to see Andrew and Toby no question I know I did.
@@Infrared-nyne "The main reason people came to watch this movie was to see Andrew and Tobey."
Oh really I thought the reason people watched it was because they wanted to see a SPIDER-MAN movie. * off with that self righteous "well I ONLY saw it for TOBEY OR ANDREW OR TOM" BS. It's not cute. It doesn't make you look superior, it just makes you basic.
@@Infrared-nyne I watched it cause I wanted to see how Tom would navigate having his _life ruined_ by Mysterio. Turns out he just made everything worse cause that's just how his life works. Poor Peter.
@@thewatcher6969 all the movie confirmed was that Spider-Man can’t be Peter Parker ☹️ and that’s the saddest part of his character and I’m glad they took their time with Tom’s trilogy to confirm that.
I agree with this comment wholeheartedly, except for the "Tobey is good peter, Andrew is good spooderman, Tom is good both" garbage. By which metric are you deciding that? There are way too many iterations of Spider-Man over the character's decades long run in, not only comics, but a whole bunch of other media. The fact is, they're all great and each bring a unique style to the character, each actor taking inspiration either from the original '60s comics, the Ultimate universe, and many other great storylines
I love the idea of Tobey Spiderman watching the TV and seeing Jay Jonah Jameson being slightly different but it's still him. Like Peter is different in different universes, but the universes agreed Jay had to stay the same
There is ONE constant in the entire Spider Universe, and it's not Peter Parker.
Its JK Simmons as JJ X'D
The best part of this video for me is the running Sandman gag. I’m just picturing loads of different death scenes in different movies but with Sandman coming in and just saying “DID YOU KILL THEM?? I don’t trust you, I don’t KNOW you!”
Andrew Garfield getting the love and recognition he deserves is what brightens my day
I just wish people also recognize Toby hasn’t been in acting for a while and he’s way older now
still the worst spideman
@@drewp4559 whatever helps you sleep at night
@@drewp4559 I would say Tom is the worst at least Tobey stopped a train and kept ock at bay for minutes
@@jared2879 bro that’s nothing compare to Tom 🤣
In a weird way I got kinda emotional watching this because it’s the culmination of all the Spider-Man commentary tracks I’ve spent the last 9 years of my life watching/ listening. I don’t listen to them as much as I used to now that I’m an adult but occasionally I’ll go back to reflect the nostalgia overload that was my high school years. From the bottom of my heart, thank you Eric, Mike, and Jake for all the years of pure joy you’ve provided me. And I can’t wait to continue listening for years to come!
this means a lot, thanks so much for stickin around and we hope to keep you laughing in the future! ❤️
I always feel like it’s weird how much people debate the Aunt May scene because Uncle Ben got away with existing just to die within minutes of us meeting him for years but we got several movies with this May
i mean you could say the same thing about the opening scene of Up. just depends on performance, tone, etc
@Pretty Much It that’s fair, I’m not going to say that I wasn’t also attached to Uncle Ben in the original movies, not Amazing though, before he died
For me I just never connected with this May because she never felt like a character to me. Even though Ben himself is a plot device, he still felt like a person who made an impact and has a history. Never felt that with this May personally
I just wish they acknowledged Ben and the lessons he taught Peter, and then have May reinforce those lessons further in NWH. It would've worked better for the death scene. Dunno why they wanna avoid Ben so bad.
I feel it's because we never really had a moment in this trilogy before NWH when May really did something that stuck with us. We know there was a big fight when she found out but we never saw it and we never saw her getting around to accepting that he is Spider-Man and choosing to help him while telling him he's a symbol that could help beyond crime fighting.
I don’t know if this came up in the full commentary but I feel a scene people overlook is the scene of Peter and Hapoy at May’s grave
Happy: how did you know her?
Peter: …through Spider-Man
The fact he can’t even bring himself to mention he was May’s nephew is so painful
My favorite part about the apartment fight is when Norman throws Peter through the wall and Norman then enters the scene, his shadow makes his hood from his sweater look like the goblin in a way. Great visual storytelling to show the Goblin has taken control
“No Way Home” is a movie that you can absolutely nitpick to death, but the strengths are SO incredibly strong that the issues weirdly don’t feel like they matter that much. The nostalgic elements are utilized brilliantly because they ENHANCE Tom’s story, rather than distract from it.
No . This movie is trash . With some okay scenes . And is ONLY worth watching for Andrew which how they came into the universe was THE dumbest shit ever . Neds fucking grandmas house ? No . Jus no .
@@WZ4RD3 Aww I’m sorry you didn’t like it as much as me, but that’s alright
@@WZ4RD3 Im so glad i'm easily amused, it makes like so much better to not be angry at movies and just have fun and enjoy. You can show me a great movies im having a chill time, show me a bad movie and im also having a chill time
@@CheerUp2 It's important to have standards.
@@maicoltenjou7572 I mean I also have standards. I love art films so much and I know a master piece when I see one but also I love having a good time. Like someone will say something is trash but I will look at the small things that were good. Maybe the composition was great, maybe the music was good, maybe the costume was nice. Like dont always be so negative and appreciate the things that were well done
This is one of the first times I’m truly appreciating the amount of effort you put into editing these highlight tracks as I’ve listened to this track in the entirety well over 4 times at this point.
Hearing all the bits and observations from various places throughout the track rearranged to segwey from subject to joke and back again is trippy to someone who can almost recite this thing, but incredibly impressive
thanks so much!! i put more work into them than is necessary, that's for sure haha. but i enjoy it! ❤️
@pretty much it it’s almost like you’re being payed $1M but giving us $4M worth ;)
@@btay1309 👏👏👏
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Finally it’s here.
Spider-Man 2 permanently made Tobey Maguire and that movie the best out of them all to me. There are only a few things that have made me tear up in my life and when Peter says "I'm Spider-Man, no more" just like in the comics, it got me. Spider-Man 2 is also my favorite movie of all time.
Grow up
@@robbyrhodes4572 who shat on your plate?
For you
Andrew Garfield is the best
I really enjoyed your conversation about the you felt about Andrew is born to play this role. And I believe that too. You can see the joy on his face when he plays him.
I loved the little detail that when we first see Norman he’s wearing green goblin colors and the overcoat is almost scaled in design.
my interpretation is that they very intentionally stopped at five villains as to say "this isn't MCU sinister six, we're building one of our own in the future". establishing a sinister six in no way home also means we never see any of the sinister six ever again, which would be a bummer. so i think they stopped at five to make the statement that they wanna make a sinister six that's actually gonna stick around and all have personal relationships with mcu peter as well.
The issue with that, all the villains so far in the MCU that Peter has face are gone…. Vulture in the Sony verse. And Mysterio is tbh. So unless they add 2 villains in the next movie then another 2 so that the 6th movie is the Sinister 6 that’s too much
@@malfaroangel3896 they could easily just say mysterio didn’t die, and if they just said the Morbius post credit scene wasn’t canon I don’t think anybody would be mad. Also shocker and scorpion still have beef with Spider-Man so that’s 4
@@malfaroangel3896 i definitely see vulture and mysterio coming back in some capacity. add in michael mando's scorpion, maybe shocker, future mcu venom, & kingpin (crossing my fingers especially for him) and you've got a sinister six entirely built from scratch which i think is the mcu's long term approach
Yeah, I think originally though they were definitely planning it to be the Sinister 6, judging by the concept art of Mysterio returning. I definitely think that Mysterio will in some way return, even if Quentin Beck is dead. His team is still out there, so they could easily pull a couple spare drones out of their garage, and if they could even bring Jake back via hologram. Besides him, Vulture & Scorpion, I don't know who else would be an obvious option.
@@malfaroangel3896 Vulture, Shoker and Scorpion are all still in the MCU....
And no, the Vulture in Morbius is not the MCU one, same actor and design, different universe.
This movie solved my biggest issue with the MCU Spider-Man, in the other two movies, he never throws a punch. He tries in Mysterio's ilusion but that hit a concrete pillar, we never actually see him HIT any of his villains.
finally!!! so refreshing!
I honestly didn’t notice 👀 Maybe it’s because we saw him throwing blows in Civil War, Infinity War, and Endgame
Funny since Spider-Man from the 90's Animated Series had the same issue, though that was due to censoring reasons
an example of having long character arcs are worth the effort
@@mwh616 I counted in the animated series, and I believe that Spider-Man threw exactly ONE punch. It was in a fight against Scorpion.
Just like this movie is a celebration of Spider-Man, this commentary track feels like the culmination of following PMI for so many years.
Also the villains don't use guns on Spiderman for the simple fact that he's usually prepared to dodge them anyways like he's done in the movies, comics and tv series. It was just this moment where Peter was emotionally detached from everything and everyone else other than Aunt May which revealed a blind spot.
Here's my take on it (not a spiderman expert so I could be way off here but) theoretically he can only dodge so many bullets at a time right? Like surely if you shoot at him enough all at once he's bound to get hit
Even if you try that, remember he can tear out a wall and use that as a shield. And bullets are linear, where you point, the bullets go. His spidey sense let's him know where you're going to aim before you do.
It is VERY difficult for a normal human to hit Spiderman in any way.
honestly, Willem is just a next level actor. he can do anything and makes it work. he chews up and elevates everything he is in. Willem deserves soooo much more recognition than he gets.
18:10 I love how Andrew Garfield just stands still for a second. Rubble is falling everywhere, and you can see this guy is paying so much attention to his spider-senses. Once he knows they're safe, he cries.
I saw this in a theatre where only four people including myself watched it and boy we all gave our own cheer for Andrew's Spider man saving MJ, it was beautiful
love that!!!
I saw it in a huge theater and there was almost a standing ovation when Tobey showed up, the whole theater was in tears when Andrew Garfield saved her
Andrew garfield was definitely born to play spiderman, love the other boys but Andrew just nails it in ways i can't fully describe
totally agree, gw- wait a sec...
@@PrettyMuchIt 🤫🤫🤫
My relationships with Andrew movies makes me weep for his Influencer movie not being as well received because he makes that movie real fun regardless of how technically terrible it is
he def the worst of 3 spidemen
@@drewp4559 what you mean >:(
The running joke with Sandman saying, “Did you kill him/her?” was hilarious!!
It was also cool to see you guys back together again, I felt like it was 2012
The sandman bit had me dying "did you kill him?!?!" 🤣🤣🤣
*Aunt may dies*
“Sandman comes around the corner, DID YOU KILL HER?!!”
“I just wanna kill your myself”
“ARE YOU GONNA KILL THAT GUY?? Sandman comes in”
God these sandman jokes are top tier LMAOO
Idk Sandman coming from around the corner just when Peter's loved one dies feels more-so like a callback to Spider-Man 3 when he explains Uncle Ben's death to him
I laughed so hard at that part. 😂
The thing I love about this trilogy is that one of the biggest criticisms of marvel films is a lot of them are just generic origin stories without any real uniqueness to them. Then right at the end of this film we end up back at classic, alone, poor, neighbourhood spidey and Kevin Feige yells "surprise, it was an origin story all along!" drops the mic and then laughs maniacally as he flys off in the Thanos-copter.
This movie kinda felt like a course correction to me. As a trilogy it doesn’t feel like it really builds off of what the first two were doing, but I easily thought this was the best one so I don’t care lol
Yeah Idek, if it wasn’t for Andrew and tobey signing on to make the whole multiverse thing possible, not sure if that would’ve been the final result. They got lucky imo
NWH is basically a hard reset for MCU’s Spider-man
"One night I fought The Bonesaw. I called him gay and I kicked his ass." is immediately another classic PMI line!
9:40
I didn't know such an emotional scene could be ruined for me, because now, whenever I watch this scene, I can't NOT imagine Sandman just running in like that
18:43, I am a staunch believer that the whistle is meant to imitate the Goblin blade sound that you heard from the 3rd Tobey Movie that the new goblin uses. Franco's goblin attacks Spiderman and all of his blades whistle when he swings them.
Love all the attention Sandman is getting in this video because he really was one of my favorite parts of the movie
“Did you kill him?” Always fuckin gets me
Yeah, same! I was so happy that he got to be in the spotlight.
DID YOU KILL HIM
I DONT TRUST YOU, I DONT KNOW YOU
your guys’ constant “did you kill him?” jokes SENT ME THROUGH THE SKIES😂
For what it’s worth, they honestly did their BEST job in preventing leaks, one can only imagine how much better this movie would’ve been if the pandemic didn’t happen, but it’s still a great movie
14:13 by far the funniest thing I’ve heard from all these commentary tracks. I was in tears “I called him gay and kicked his ass”😭😭
I will never forget that last scene, I watched this movie in theatres on Christmas Eve and seeing Spider-Man swing around a giant ass Christmas tree with snow everywhere made me so exited for that night
this just makes me crave another andrew garfield spiderman. his story needs to continue post gwen. tobey's feels complete for the most part, and tom's films feel like its finally set for him to be spiderman and we dont need to see more, which im fine with but i need more from AG's spiderman. i want to see that darker version asap.
Little do you guys realize hearing a Eric, Jake, and Mike commentary is similar to the feeling of seeing the three spider-men together 🥺
Man, I love when you three are together. Such nostalgia for you. I watched all through college, and now I’m a married man. You guys bring me so much joy. Spider-Man brings me so much joy. Thank you for all the years of content. Love you, goons.
love YOU michael!!! ❤️
@@PrettyMuchIt thanks dude ❤️
I remember in the theater literally everyone cheered and clapped for Andrew and Toby, it was so great
This movie was just such a pleaser. One of the few times when I was in a theater and the crowd cheered, clapped, or was otherwise audibly excited
Glad to see the OG crew back together for this! I remember when I met you guys while waiting in line for a special screening of like the first 15 mins of The Amazing Spider-Man back in 2012 in the city. Andrew Garfield showed up in the theater and surprised us all haha that was a great day.
hell yeah that was a great day!
21:57 See, this movie did change my life a lil bit with that whole profound impact thing. It was Andrew Garfield's moment that did it.
Do y'all remember just how badly the Amazing Spiderman films were crapped on at the time? Rotten Tomatoes is kinder now with more recent reviews, but when the movies came out, people were *mad.* It'd only been 5 years since Spiderman 3, and people were bitching up and down that Andrew Garfield wasn't _their_ Spiderman, "it's all a cash grab", etc, etc.
Flash forward 10 years, and people screamed, clapped and jumped out of their seats when he came through the portal. All hard feelings weren't just washed away - it was like they never existed.
There's zero way in 2012/2014 anyone would believe that someday, years in the future, he would be in a new Spiderman movie...and everyone would lose their goddamn minds over him.
I don't know, it feels like a huge life lesson, that we can't judge things based on one moment in time. Sometimes, our redemption arcs...well....they just take awhile to complete.
it makes me so happy because the TRAUMA he went thru during and after those movies where he like didn’t even want to talk about it (also just sony execs treating like a non human) and now he’s just so happy to talk about it because he got that closure and second chance and work with people who actually understand spiderman like he did ahhhh it makes my heart happy
it really makes me happy that the movie allowed andrew garfield to be the big reveal. they could've easily had tobey be the spider-man to come out of the first portal, and people would've lost their minds, but they let it be andrew. it felt like a bit of homage to him. like 'we know we did him wrong, so have this scene to make up for it.' now his scene of running and jumping out of the portal is going down in marvel movie history and he deserves it.
The issue most people I've spoken to about TASM have was nothing to do with Andrew, and knew who spiderman was, everyone else just got in the way. It's the same issue alot of people had with Peter Capeldi as Dr. Who, that the actor was perfect, the writing ruined it.
So when Andrew returned, everyone was excited see HIS spiderman, not the corporate mess that he was forced to be
@@remyuk it works so well because Toby, as the OG spiderman, would steal the show and Andrew would be an after thought. But by having Andrew first, he gets his moment in the spotlight, where you care about his character on his own, as well as a build up to Toby. Like the opening band, you love them on their own, but they also build up the main event. Not trying to downplay Andrew, but you know it wouldn't of felt so amazing if they appeared Toby first.
This movie was supposed to come out after Multiverse of Madness and after watching that it really shows. Everything that felt clunky about the Multiverse in NWH was explained in MOM. The build up to really cool "Cameos" that people felt disappointed by in MOM would've made more sense if that was leading into NWH. Literally this movie obviously ends in an incursion! That's clearly what's happening at the end there! When all the villains are coming to the MCU! That's the universes colliding!
OH MY GOD WAIT THE MID CREDITS SCENE IN MOM MAKES SENSE NOW
Lol wow
The cluster fuck of shit that is MoM explained barley anything
you’re so damn right and bc of that they probably had to cut so much out of dr strange which is why it felt so disgruntled
The impact Mysterio left on Spider-Man‘s life is constantly referenced throughout the movie from beginning to end, therefore, Mysterio (or the mere memory of Mysterio) is the sixth member of the sinister six, despite the fact that these villains don’t necessarily work as a team half the time, so technically they’re not really the sinister six to begin with.
Man this movie was just so good. Whatever flaws it had got overshadowed. Nostalgia obviously played a part but they pulled on the nostalgia very well.
Agreed!
I love you guys
thank you
thank you
“Alright, let’s do this!”
Love your dynamic with the guys if not already enjoying you from the gaming side of things already
Loved when all 3 jumped off together and you saw how each jumps off in their own way at 16:55
You can tell that this movie was made especially for the fans and I love that. I can accept and play blind with some flaws in the logic of the plot just because the three Peter's are together. Once they appeared, nothing else mattered to me
I’ve seen this movie a few times and I know exactly what happens. Still, even just watching a highlight reel of a commentary, I cried buckets and cheered when Andrew and Tobey made their grand entrance. For the first time in my life I understood what people mean when they say “my whole life has been leading up to this moment.” In my entire 22 years of life I’ve never seen a movie that’s even come CLOSE to the absolute joy and wonder NWH gave me and I’m just so stupid grateful it exists.
Thanks so much for this track, guys. Andrew’s been my favorite Spider-Man since 2012 and I’m so happy he’s finally FINALLY getting the recognition he deserves.
I honestly wouldn't have been mad with an Oscar nominations for a few of the performances in this movie, Alfred Molina, William Defoe, and Andrew Garfield all killed it and imo transcended all performances in the modern MCU.
The part where y’all takes about appreciating letting the web scene go on for a little too long reminded me of the scene in the comics where there’s a multiversal spider war and two spider-men need to reload fluid so they take cover and they just shoot the shit for like a minute
Andrew Garfield's spiderman has always been my favourite, i didn't grow up with tobey's version so no nostalgia factor for me and Tom Holland's version alwyas felt off to me, there's this video called "Spiderman, Class and Militarization" that explain pretty well how i fell about it.
Plus Andrew's version is the one that was used for all the crossover in the fandom
tom easily feels the closest to spider-man. I recommend to read amazing fantasy #15 (first spider-man comic) and the ultimate series for a start. I feel like at face value andrew is the very fun spider-man but if you actually read comics it's not even close in my opinion the most accurate is very clear.
Same
@@Keizi no
@@Keiziyeah no lol
@@Dan-zc3ou my opinion. He really feels Kirby-esque
13:26 Andrew making it canon that his Spiderman became very depressed and violent honestly fits with the Sony-verse films I feel. I havent seen the second in its entirety but the first is honestly probably the saddest version of Spiderman I've seen (not in comic form ofc)
13:59 and i love love love how Across the Spider-Verse takes this concept and flips it on its head entirely. so cool
The thing about the three Spider-Men swinging is that there are subtle details to tell you who's who. Basically, anything involving front flips and that aerial semi-crouch pose is Tobey and anything involving a straight dive and twisting acrobatics is Andrew.
I cried when May died, not really because I was invested in her character, but because it was just so unexpected. They spent all the other movies differentiating this Spider-Man and may never dies in other media that at this point she wasn't even in the conversation for being the uncle Ben type catalyst. But at that moment is when I knew that this movie was just the final act of this multi movie origin story and that shit was about to get real. Honestly this movie does have it's flaws but I don't think I could have ever imagined getting as close to a perfect Spider-Man movie in my lifetime.
I have never audibly sobbed in a theater like I did when Andrew's Peter caught MJ. I was a WRECK. I'm tearing up rewatching it now!
IMO, Garfield wasn't a good high school Peter, but he kills it as a college age or early 20's peter. One who's had time to gain confidence as Peter and not just Spider-Man.
he's a little too cool for peter BUT he's a perfect spidey!
@@PrettyMuchIt He feels like Insomniac Spidey tbh.
He's confident because he's been Spider-Man for a while, and has a girlfriend and such...but he's also still got that dweeby energy to him, ya know?
All 3 of them swinging off each other's momentum still gives me chills that was the moment for me that made the film
20:20 "I wish Zendaya had a last name" LMAOOO
Happy's white privilege is something that we need to explore more in the upcoming MCU.
Andrew Garfields line "I love you guys" is just wholesome. I was a little disappointed at the other two's response but it goes with their characters.
This might be my favourite commentary you guys have done because, while you do crack jokes, it’s just three people discussing candidly about a movie they enjoyed.
While No Way Home didn’t, entirely, work for me (and I disagree with some of your opinions), it was a once-in-lifetime experience that I had fun with and can happily describe as a ‘blockbuster in its purest form’; so great to hear your enthusiasm and I’m glad you got more out of the film than I did.
I gotta admit, no matter how many years passed by this film. My favorite part will always be the Spider-Man landing in chronological order. Toby Maguiere lands first, then Andrew Garfield, then Tom Holland. It is the perfect medley of all of them & every scene with all three of them together were perfection. I don’t think that you could beat those scenes in any Spider-Man movie combined. It’s just like they were always meant to all be on screen together.
15:38 “Little peter parker gonna cry? You cant do that huh? Im gonna put some kum in your eye!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂