A New Condition Has Been Added to the Thailand Retirement Visa: TM30 required.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 พ.ย. 2023
- In this video, we'll discuss the latest update to the Thailand Retirement O Visa. This update specifically refers to the form TM30.
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For those unfamiliar with the TM30. www.thaiembassy.com/thailand-visa/about-tm30-thailand#:~:text=The%20TM30%20notification%20and%20its,very%20well%20aware%20of%20this.
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What if you already have a yellow book? Will that serve for the TM30? I have a home in Udon in my wife's name and considering getting the Retirement visa over the marriage visa since we haven't signed the necessary documents for the marriage license yet.
@@clausbohm9807No, having a yellow book does not excuse one from filing a TM30
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand I guess I am asking does the yellow book prove residency since I won't have a contract or hotel receipt?
@@clausbohm9807to buy a vehicle, open a bank account , get a driving license, etc., yes. But it does not absolve one from submitting a TM30. To be sure you are covered, just go to your immigration office and ask.
Very well explained, I am sure a lot of people will find this video valuable. You covered everything... Cheers
Glad you like it
This the best video explaining the O Visa. I have been watching many other videos on visas and they seem to try and cover all the visas and leave out some details.
Wow, thank you!
Thanks, Ray for the updates. 🙏
No worries
Thanks for your very clear explanation Ray.
You're welcome Steve.
As an objective outsider who with no intention of retiring in Thailand but simply spending a couple of months or so there every winter. Why do the Thai authorities make it so difficult for retirees. Making people check in every 90 days is over the top to me.
We don't like it either, but it's a minor inconvenience which takes me a few minutes to complete online.
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Because they are control freaks who actually believe people will accept difficulties because "we are Thailand and the farang will accept it" delusional Thailand
Use an agent he will short it out 4 u
When my wife was a green card holder in the U.S. we had to go every three months and sit in a large room at Immigration full of people for four to five hours waiting to be called up to the window to spend ten minutes getting a new stamp and paying a $500 fee so every country has rules that you follow in order to live there.
Thumbs up 👍 Ray….very informative
Glad it was helpful!
Very good & accurate advice, just subscribed. As i am an aussie who frequently returns to Australia, the 90 day reporting (90 days after entering or reentering Thailand) isnt such a burden as im normally here for fewer than 90 days. Getting an lazy condo manager to lodge a TM30 (or at least complete it) can be a headache.
In the past, I never relied on my landlord to do the TM30, I went to immigration and reported myself and asked for a receipt. For frequent travelers this is a pain but for those of us more rooted it is no big deal.
Very informative, thank you for that
You are welcome.
Fantastic information, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand
Very much, now subscribed 👍
Thanks for the sub.
Thanks for posting ✌🏼🏴👏🏾👏🏾🙏🙏👀
You're welcome
Nice straightforward video! I plan on making the leap there next year. Paying a visa agent for what they know sounds like a good investment
Thank you. One does not need an agent but the task is much easier with one. However if the agent says they can get you a visa even if you do not have 800K in the bank, you should be very wary. Rubber stamps and ink are cheap to buy but can bring in a lot of cash.
I live in UK and visit Thailand twice a year for 3 months each time. I have had the Non- immigrant visa based on being over 50 years old with a pension many times. I am coming again in 3 weeks time for 90 days and did my Visa application online as usual. When I got to the supporting document section it now required proof of 65k/month or 800k in bank. I thought I must have made mistake and applied for wrong visa so went back and checked but hadn't.
I emailed Thai Embassy and also phoned their helpline. They told me that I should just upload proof of £10,000 in UK instead and sure enough I got my usual 90 day Non O visa! ALSO you do not need to show insurance either! Very strange but who cares? I've got the visa anyway. 😁
@@AlreadyShort You have completely misunderstood my message. I do not live in Thailand or want to live in Thailand. I get the 90 days I need and go home.
Anyway, anyone using a Thai agent to falsify their bank balance runs a serious risk. Rumour is Immigration will soon require proof of funds with every 90 day report.
I am surprised that they did not require the insurance, it may have been an oversight or most likely the UK embassy has a different set of requirements. Under required documents on this page, item 8 totally confuses me and is contrary to other country embassy sites I have read. london.thaiembassy.org/en/page/retirement-visa . Anyway, I am glad it worked out for you.
He's a TH-camr not an immigration lawyer so probably doesn't understand your situation, no surprise to me your story as they are wholly incompetent and take pleasure in screwing the farang
I have a TM 30 in my passport. I have had it since it's inception. I have had a retirement visa for years. I travel the Kingdom quite a lot. My son is the owner of the house I reside in. He has never been bothered for any TM 30 issues! I also have the Yellow House Book. Renewed my retirement extension last moth, took at least 10 minutes! * For the 90 day notification--don't wait till the 'last day' go early! The days are credited to you anyway so no issues!
Thanks for sharing! www.thaiembassy.com/thailand-visa/about-tm30-thailand#:~:text=The%20TM30%20notification%20and%20its,very%20well%20aware%20of%20this.
it's = it is ... use its for possessive!
@@trevorsmith7753 do you ever misspell?
Love your video's & the way you present interesting articles .. I see the good old catch 22 is still in place ,, To apply for the Visa you need the money in a Thai bank a/c !! To open the Thai bank a/c you generally first need the visa !! 😀😀
That too can be overcome. If you are in Chiang Rai, my wife can get you an account.
How much does your wife charge to open an account in Chiang Rai?
@@cash4cat Unless you intend to stay in Chang Rai I wouldn't get your account there....the banks seem to be regional so you have to pay a small fee every time you use a branch outside your area
@catman99 I am finding it impossible to open in Chiang Mai, don't mind it being in Chiang Rai, can use their banking application zere fees😁
4,000 baht.
I have just had my visa extended (for the 10th time) at Chaeng Wattana and needed neither TM30, nor copy of every page of my passport. Also 1 photo was enough. So there are different interpretations of the regulations.
You are 100% correct, some offices have different rules. What I said came directly from the Thai immigration website. So if one has what they ask for and find it is not needed by the immigration office, at least they were prepared in accordance with the immigration rules.
Hello Ray great video again , let me know next time you're out for coffee let's meet , thanks .
Hi Sam, Ian is in Malaysia finishing his move. But I am good Friday or Saturday morning. Email me at lifeintherai@gmail.com
Ray is the best.
Thanks for your support
Ray, I’m coming to Thailand in July and I want to stay through February. I would really love to explore parts of the country that I haven’t seen yet. What do you do if you don’t know where you are going to be the whole time??? I have one reservation for 1 month. I have a trip booked with Gate 1 with my brother on November 13th that goes out of country for 3 weeks, but then I wanted to return to continue exploring to possibility of living in Thailand eventually.
How do you plan to stay that long? What visa are you travelling on?
Whilst you are in Thailand, if you check in or out of a hotel the hotel staff are required to report your coming and going to immigration.
Thank you so much, Sir. You helped me the most, by mentioning the practical details, that I was not aware of. Do you have an office that can be of assistance to me? I'm planning to come to Thailand in April and stay at least 1 year.
You're welcome. Yes, my wife can be of assistance to you. email me at lifeintherai@gmail.com when you are ready and we can arrange to meet.
In my experience each province has their own set of rules similar but not the same ( I know right) expect surprises and delays and when you go for copies get double. You’ll use them. Same with photos. Get a dozen. Getting through retirement visa requirements can be stressful but in the end it’s so worth it.
Even officers in the same immigration office often have different views. But, you are right, in the end it is worth it.
They will continue to mistreat ex pats as long as people out up with it , not worth it
@@AllAboutLifeInThailanddebatable but glad you like it so much you accept this nonsense, Thai authorities are bullies, in future most of the retirees will be Chinese, Russian (they have no option) and Indians
We are not mistreated.
If the Chinese, Russians and Indians complain less that will be a blessing.
Great video thanks. I'm a Canadian and will be moving to Thailand in July on a retirement visa. I plan to rent somewhere for a couple of months while I sort out bank accounts, drivers licence, purchasing and insuring a motorcycle, etc. After that, I plan to tour the country on my motorcycle, staying anywhere between 1-7 nights at each location I visit. If I don't have a lease or rental agreement during this period will it be an issue completing the 90 day reports? I'm sure there are lots of folks like me who want to travel around and explore rather than staying permanently in one location. Any advice or knowledge you ma y have on this would be much appreciated. Thanks
No, that is not a problem.
@AllAboutLifeInThailand how does one go about getting a receipt for the TM30 as the house master ?
Are you sent one when immigration logs you into the system ?
I can get from my landlady, but I do not wish my landlady to know my movements.
I used to book myself in, but have been told a copy and print off of the TM30 is no longer accepted.
I have never used the online system so I do not know the answer.
Yes, is that the best visa for me to get if I plan to leave a couple of times? Or is the 3 month tourist visa easier to renew at the border when I come and go???
That is what I would recommend and it is easy at the border when you come and go. I am not aware of any 3 month tourist visas unless you are Chinese or Russian.
Thanks for your information. For multiple access , when should I come back to Thailand so i am not losing my current active visa?
If you are referring to a multiple re-entry permit, you should come back at least a couple of weeks before your visa expires to give yourself enough time for renewal. If you return after the expiry date, obviously your visa will be void.
Given that I am planning to live in my condo that I own - 1) upon arrival when I will apply for the Retirement O Visa, and 2) over the long-term while I have a valid Retirement O Visa - can you elaborate how the TM 30 is completed or applies to my Retirement O Visa process ?
About the TM 30 - you mentioned 4:47 that the TM 30 form is to be completed by the house master or hotel where most people would stay on arrival and departure, and that these foreigners should be given a receipt of the TM 30 that has been filed.
As I will stay in my condo that I own, am I the house master as I own my condo, and therefore as the house master I am to submit the TM 30 to the Thai government, and I should keep a receipt of the TM 30?
Yes, you are the house master, and yes you need to complete and file a TM30.
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand Thank you Ray
Some immigration offices require many more documents. For example, multiple photos of the applicant inside and outside the house (even after 20 years) for a O-retirement 1-year extension. A map to the same house (20 years in a row). Etc.
I know many more pages and photos and a map are required for a marriage visa but I know of nobody who needed the photos and a map as you describe for a retirement visa.
yes i often required to draw a map with OA or O retirement visa but you should be grateful: it is a simple thing to do. i am a owner and live there three years
Come to Nong Khai. You'll be as wrong as all the others who call me a liar. @@AllAboutLifeInThailand
You are simply -- wrong.@@AllAboutLifeInThailand Don't make a video explaining details of visas and extensions without the disclaimer that it only applies to your region. It's not a national standard. I'm surprised someone whose been here so long doesn't realize this.
I am not calling you a liar, I am simply stating another side of the coin.
Very well explained, I'm in Thailand on a oa visa , do I have to leave Thailand to get a tourist visa or can I stay and apply in Thailand not having to leave , then apply for the 0 visa .
Sadly, you cannot change an OA to an O in Thailand. There are 2 ways to get an O. Go home and apply for a 90 day O visa which you can renew for 12 months in Thailand or arrive on a 60 day visa and convert to a 90 day O visa in Thailand then apply for a 12 month extension 60 days later. I hope that is clear.
Nice update thanks. Just wondering if I have a Multi entry type O visa and re entry permits when I come and go from Thailand. How does the 90 reporting work. Does that apply only when I am in Thailand as I may be overseas when the 90 days is up ? Cheers.....
Any time you leave the country before a 90 day report is due the 90 days starts again on the day you re-enter Thailand. In other words if it comes due while you are overseas, don't worry about it, it will kickstart again on your return.
Cool thanks mate. Thats a big help. Cheers.@@AllAboutLifeInThailand
You're welcome.
Good information and we are thinking of moving there in June or July 2024 to Chiang Mai, let us know if we can use your wife’s service. Thanks.
If you will be living in Chiang Rai, Jen will be happy to help you.
Hi Ray, really like your video and Thanks a lot. now I have a question for you that I heard Thailand banks don't open bank accounts for the ppl with tourist visas, they need long term visa, such as o visa, working, study visa etc. but those ppl with tourist visas need to open bank accounts before apply O visas when they are already in Thailand. looks like the dead loop in here. can I know if you are aware of this? if so, how we can get this settled? Thanks in advance!
Like many things in this world, it's not what you know, it is who you know. If you are in Chiang Rai, my wife can help you if you have a passport, a driving license (with your photo), a Thai telephone number (a SIM card is cheap), and a Thai address that you can use. Other than that, I can only say, visit banks until you find one that will open an account for you.
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand nevermind. Thanks a lot for your quick reply!
So lets say I get my my O visa, rent a house and submit TM30.
Two months later I go and stay in a hotel in BKK then return to my home address.
Do I need to submit a new TM30 because BKK hotel would have written one when I arrived there for my 2 night stay?
No. At the moment you only need to file a TM 30 when you return from overseas.
I have never known a hotel to give a guest a TM 30 receipt.
Of course it should be on the immigration database.
But will it be ?
US social security doesn't provide an income letter. What can I do? Thanks for info
Nor do the Australian and British consulates. Are you in Thailand now or making plans? I'm assuming you do not have enough money for the 800,000. If not, contact Grace at thaivisacentre.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAiJSeBhCCARIsAHnAzT8H6CoolLaI1AqT7SrsHFKXc0xGA796U7Ypw5dATN9qvGN_WuDEB9UaAinNEALw_wcB
As always good information Ray! I've been doing some research on foreigners being able to buy a home in Thailand via land leasing. Would you happen to know of any expats who own a home in Thailand on leased land?
No I don't know any expats on leased land. But I do know that if you build a house on leased land and something goes tits up, at the end of the day, the house is the property of the landowner. The same is true for people who buy land in their wife's name and build.
As foreigner you can own a house but not the land it is built on. You lease the land for a max of 30 years. If you have a Thai company you can buy land but that is a different ball game altogether.
@@jimhart102I agree but consider what happens to the house when the lease expires. Unless you have something else in place with your lawyer, the house will become the property of the landowner.
Not 100% sure what would happen after 30 years no one I know has had their home here that long yet. What most people do is have a contract signed with the land owner for a 30 + 30+30 year agreement. How this would stand up in a Thai court I do not know. Thousands of farangs own their homes on leased land.
30x3 is a normal legal agreement so its fine. @@jimhart102
Dear Ray, may I have a question ? .. what happens to the K800 funds in the bank ? , it is locked for use or , what I can do with it during the year ? ... You time is greatly appreciated !
I hope this is clear. The 800K must be in the bank for 90 days before and after your renewal. So, 90 days after renewal, you can spend some of it, but the balance must never drop below 400K. Then 3 months before your next renewal, the balance must be back to 800K.
Thank you Ray, God bless you 🙏
I heard a rumour saying the multiple entry option for renewal of a Non-O visa is no more. True?
If you are speaking of a visa that requires you to leave every 90 days, I am not sure, that is something I have never used and my wife has never helped anyone to get. If on the other hand, you are speaking about a normal 12 month O retirement visa, the multi entry permit has nothing to do with the renewal of your visa. The re-entry permits, multi or single entry are applied for after the issuance of your visa on a separate application.
If you leave Thailand with a re-entry permit and return to the same address do you need to get another TM30 completed by your landlord?
Some people say yes, some say no. Personally, just to play safe, I do.
My next 90-day reporting and renewal of my retirement visa are due on the same day. Does it matter which I do first at Immigration?
I think you could do it on the same day. Or you can do your 90 day up to 15 days before or up to 7 days after the due date.
very clearly explained, thank you! i live in my own condo. do i need to file TM30 every time i left thailand and return from overseas? i did ask changwattana immigration counter and the answer was yes, but another youtuber said no need. And what if i return to my own condo after visit to a hotel or province inside thailand, TM30 also required?
Some people say if you are returning to your rented or owned home a TM30 is not required, others say it is, so just to cover my ass I visit immigration the day after my return and do it myself anyway. Interestingly, the immigration officer has never told me I don't need to.
I’m came back from a Japan holidays in February. Went to immigrations to do a TM30 and the lady checking paper work at the front desk (Jomtien Immigrations) said since I was returning to the same address on a retirement visa a new TM30 was not required. I asked when did that change and she said two weeks ago which would’ve been around 14 February.
That’s what I’m trying to figure out.
Tourist visas start the day they are issued and I’ll be traveling for just over a month before I get to Thailand so….. I’m concerned that I won’t be able to be in Thailand in November when our 3 country tour starts.
I know people go in and out with multiple entry tourist visas. With a 60 day visa renewable for an extra 30 days. Is it still possible to come into Thailand, then leave for a few days and get another 60 days?
The Thai consulate in Los Angeles has never responded to my email.
Sorry, I do not have enough specific information to answer your question. Which tourist visa category will you be arriving on?
I do t have any visa yet but I think I would apply for a tourist reentry visa. It has the longest stay. And I was planning to leave at least twice anyway. Can you still re-up a tourist visa at the border?
Do you mean a 6 month Thailand METV (Multi Entry Tourist Visa)?
Hi,
Just found your channel, I need all the info I can,
Is a marriage visa easier, or is retirement visa ?
I understand a marriage visa only requires farang to hold 400,000 baht in a bank account,
A retirement visa has less paperwork and an 800,000 deposit and you are correct, the marriage visa only requires 400,000. Otherwise they are about the same level of difficulty.
Thank you. Will go over this good video and make notes so I can talk more knowledgable to the subject of Thailnd retirement.
Now 69 year old Canadian, good health and finance no issue.
Have my 60 day pre approved Tourist Visa now and will be Thailand for December January.
I will use an agent so I am sure everything done correctly.
Can't recall your wifes name at the moment, however in the past you indicated she has a consult business.
I will be in Thailand Dec/Jan, return to Canada, then next visit to Thailand on a 60 day Toursit Visa to go through steps of retirement.
Question is when is good time to start planning document process or logical plan that makes best sense with your wife?
Regarding documentation, except for a rent agreement, the application and 3 4X5cm photos, you already have all you need. Where in Thailand will you be. Jen can only help people in Chiang Rai.
Get a bank account sorted on in December/January. That will be one headache sorted out early. Best use Kasikorn or Bangkok Bank.
They are 2 banks that allow deposits of more than 50 thousand baht at a time.
@@timwalker2458 Thank you. Will use Bangkok Bank. I have close Thai friends that can help me also.
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand Plan is to visit Chiang Mai then Chiang Rai which would be my first pick. At 69 years old biggest concern is future and medical service so i want to check Chiang Rai medical. I am healthy, just thinking of future.
@mrpaul6356 watch out for the Chiang Mai air quality. For several months of the year it is among the world's worst.
Hello, I am living here on a non o retirement visa. I have a 1 year rental contract for a condo. If i leave for travel and return to the same address, do i need to file a new tm30?
Some people say yes, others say no. I personally do just to cover my bases.
Ray can you clarify the accommodations issue for me, please? I understand that merely having an apartment or condo for one month is not sufficient. I have been told that I need to have a contract or lease for at least six months or a year to qualify. Also, I have heard that leasing an apartment is not acceptable - that the accommodation must be a condominium. This has been all very confusing for me and I hope you can clarify. Thank you.
I know not from whence you got that info. My wife has helped many people who have only got a 1 month condo rental while they look for something more suitable.
From whence, indeed. in the course of doing my research on the O visa, I have found a lot of conflicting information. Visa agents, ex-pats, Facebook groups - everyone has “facts” ideas, suggestions. Some is current, some out of date and much of it just conjecture and BS. It is very difficult to find definitive, reliable information I can trust. Makes a difficult process even more frustrating.
@@ExpatUAIn that case, I suggest you talk to an immigration officer and get the straight scoop.
In all of the proceses described I see so many contradictions and paradoxical situations. Such as: I understand it is difficult to open a bank account, and in many cases get a lease, until you have an approved longer term visa. Yet they are prerequisites. If applying from your home country, how can you open a bank acct in Thailand that requires being there to do so? It also seems unclear how to prove pension income without being able to show it being deposited into a Thai Bank for some period of time. It appears the US Embassy in Thailand is no longer issuing income affidavits, so that is not possible. It all just seems to require a great deal of luck, and too much to depend on to be able to plan for retiring there.
Photos must be 4×6
You titled with the TM30, but said little about it. That is what I'm most interested to know more about. The new thing...
This video was not about the TM30, it was about the requirement of being able to produce a TM30 receipt. Since you want to know more, look for a new video today.
Is there a minimum requirement period for the rental agreement? Is it even possible, say, book a hotel or airbnb for 1 month for the purposes of the "O" application if there is intention to travel all around thailand during the 1 year allotment rather than being forced to rent a semi-permanent "place" which will generally not be lived in?
No, there is no minimum. But a hotel or Airbnb are not good choices. There are many condos that can be rented monthly and provide a rental agreement.
So when I went to Jomtien immigration, I have a Non O retirement visa, to give them my new address last September, I filled out a form/TM30? they kept it and put the new address in their computer, the immigration office never gave me a receipt or TM30? So when I go for my 90day report I do not have a TM30, although they have my new address in their computer system?
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand hmmmm... even a 1 month rental would require a deposit... something to ponder....
@@wl88168 assuming you leave the condo as you found it, you will get your deposit back.
@@roygoad2870 you are one of many. I too did not have a copy so I went to immigration and requested one.
I thought the one year Retirement Visa was called the O - A and not only the O.
If you apply for the 12 month visa in your country it is an O-A visa which requires expensive, mandatory health insurance. If you arrive in Thailand on a 60 day (min) tourist visa, you can apply, to convert the tourist visa to an O visa which does not require expensive, mandatory health insurance.
Hi Ray,
Loved your video.
I have a Non-O Visa with Multi Re-entry and will expire next year 11/9/24.
1. If I am NOT in Thailand, does 3 monthly report apply to me?
2. I am coming back to Thailand soon, Can I buy a 1 way air ticket?
Thank you.
Hi.
1. If you leave the country, your next 90 day report is due 90 days after your return
2. With a non-o visa you will not need a return ticket.
You're welcome.
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand
Hi Ray,
Thank you for your quick replied which I really appreciated.
Hi Ray,
Also is it easy to renew Non-O Visa or best to pay agency to do?
Do you have video that you did on how to renew so I can watch?
The renewal process is exactly the same as the initial application, assuming the initial application was made in Thailand. Oftentimes one can get a bad officer who just makes it difficult requiring you to try 2-3 times, then there is the language issue. Using an agent you won't have these problems. Having said that, renewing your visa is simple but not easy.
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand
Hi Ray,
Thank you very much.
at 1:47 you say "or" then at 4:14 you state 800k which is it please
You are correct, one could use an income affidavit, but not all countries provide them once you are in Thailand, so I did not mention it a second time. Three major countries that don't are The USA, The UK, and Australia.
TM 30 what about the fact when you arrived in 2019 and not left the country since then!! There was no need for a TM30!! So there has never ever been a receipt!
Last August I returned from Indonesia, I had a re-entry stamp, no TM30 was made up upon my arrival. I have my yellow book and I am the owner of the house. Maybe you only need that TM 30 when you enter as a tourist and want a Non - O visa???
I think the TM30 is now getting more scrutiny now. www.thaiembassy.com/thailand-visa/about-tm30-thailand#:~:text=The%20TM30%20notification%20and%20its,very%20well%20aware%20of%20this.
Do they still have that silly 'Draw-a-map-from-your-local-immigration-office-to-your-home' rule? Also, staying at a hotel away from one's residence can mess up your 90-day reporting if your home-manager does not re-register you 'At Home' after returning from your in-country break. Another issue the ten-year-olds had not thought through.
In Chiang Rai, and I assume, other provinces, only marriage visas require a "hand drawn" map. As for the house manager reporting my return, I never depend on a third party filing a TM30 on my return, I simply rock up at immigration the next day and report my return personally.
What does 'combination of both' mean? I'm an Indian citizen, preparing to relocate to Pattaya this year or next on retirement visa. My source of income is interest earned on time deposits in banks in India & govt securities. My annual income is approx 1000000/- INR which works out to about 400000/- THB. So how much deposit would I need to place with Thai bank/s? Any inputs much appreciated 🙂
The deposit amount required is 800,000 THB. By combination of both, I assume you are talking about combining income + cash in bank. If so, it is simple, let's ay you have 400,000 in the bank, you can make up the other 400,000 by showing regular monthly deposits for 12 months that total 400,000.
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand Thanks 🙂
every country has its own rule,so far it seems the philippines is most friendly and much less restrictive, nothing like 90 day or TM30
There are other considerations.
I’d probably just hire a service to take care of all of this visa stuff.
Many do.
My wife is Thai and owns a house in Thailand. I would only like to stay in Thailand 6 months a year. A tourist visa wont cover 6 month what other visa would you recommend or would it be easier to do a visa run. It would have been great if they had increased the visa waiver to 90 days then i only need to do one time visa run.
Why don't you just get a 90 day non-immigrant O visa and extend that when you need to.
@AllAboutLifeInThailand when I extend that 90 day visa will they extend it for another 90 day?. If they extend it only a month I am still short.
@@CA-1954 you could extend it for 12 months for $60. I don't that you could extend for another 90 days, but if you could the cost will be the same as 12 months.
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand 👍thanks
800K Baht is for one person? what about for couple? double the amount?
Yep, 1,600,000 Baht. 800,000 in each person's own account (not joint accounts).
I have been told i cannot get a bank account on a tourist visa is this correct.
That is basically true. But in some circumstances it is possible. If you were planning to live in Chiang Rai, my wife could get an account opened for you.
I managed to open a bank account in Bangkok bank with tourist visa + a proof of residency from my embassy, but Kasikorn bank said no to me.
@@magnuszakrisson well done.
Thank you so as someone who is coming to thailand soon to open a bank acc and to apply for a 5 year retirement visa ,,,could you tell me what visa i should get so i can open a bank account ,as when i tryed to open one on my last visit i was told i couldnt open a bank account on the visa i had which was a visa on arrival from Australia ,,🙏🙏 i am returning in january ,and if i apply from australia i need a police check ,and heath insurance ,if i heard you right i wouldnt need any health insurance or police check if i apply in Thailand ,in person or thru an agent ?????,im a bit confused with the sequence and what are the exact requirements for a multiple entry retirement V 🙏Does any here have any previous experience pls ,🙏🤔🤕
You heard me right. If you were in Chiang Rai, Jen could help you. If you will be around Bangkok, I recommend you arrive on a 60 day tourist visa and contact Grace at Thai Visa Centre : thaivisacentre.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAiJSeBhCCARIsAHnAzT8H6CoolLaI1AqT7SrsHFKXc0xGA796U7Ypw5dATN9qvGN_WuDEB9UaAinNEALw_wcB
Thank you ive watched this video quite a few times now and you are very clear a thorough ,i still have some confusion ,i am in the process of getting a Non o Visa from here in Sydney and then coming there to apply thru your recomeded agent for a 1 year or 5 year mutiple entry retirement visa ,,,,? 2 Requirements for a non o visa here in sydney ,as im sure you know is a police check ,and health insurance ,,,, can you tell me please if i get health insurance here for the 90 day non o visa ,,,Does that mean i will need to keep renewing that insurance once im resident in Thailand pls ???Thank you for your Videos and information 🙏 A gratefull viewer ,🙏
@@jamesh4066 Before considering a 5 year visa check the next video about Privilege Visas, and take a close look at the cost and benefits. Personally, I do not see the value. As to insurance, no you will not need to show insurance when you apply for your 12 month extension.
I think they will close this 'O' health loophole before too long. The Philippines' system is much simpler and friendlier.
We can live in hope but it really is no big issue.
Thanks. Not even volunteering work krub?
Unfortunately not.
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand thats good to know. A bummer but good to know. That was going to be a hobby for me while there. Not anymore krub
I tried volunteering 13 years ago. But I agree one needs something to fill their time. After 11 years, I decided to make videos and now it keeps me busy and boredom at bay.
now suddenly there is a new issue worldwide income tax policy, effect on retirement expat not clearly known
According to a tax lawyer that I spoke with last week, most expats don't know it but in reality we have been liable to pay tax for many years, but for some reason or other it has not been enforced. At this point we don't know if it will be enforced going forward, but it is a concern for many, myself included. However, it will not be a reason for me to leave because the cost of living in Australia far exceeds the small amount of tax I will owe after already paying tax. Any taxes paid overseas are deducted from any tax due in Thailand.
hope the tax won't be retrospective
@@drkenchao1849 me too, I would have 14 years of back taxes.
It all comes down to the double tax agreement with your country.
Regarding accommodation staying with your wifes Thai family as proof
Is that acceptable to immigration regds O Visa
Yes, and if they will add you to the house book, you will be able to get a yellow book and a pink ID card.
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand Hi thanks thats a big help !
You are welcome
@@vimolmas50 but be sure your wife's family files a tm-30 within 24 hours of your arrival. They need to go to immigration office to do that.
You cannot apply for the O visa remotely only the oa visa your allowed
By remotely, I assume you mean in your country. If so, you are partly correct. You cannot get a 12 month O visa there but you can get a 90 day O visa. Regardless, my recommendation is that people arrive on a 60 day tourist visa then convert it to a 90 day O visa, then get a 12 month O visa extension 60 days later.
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand This is my plan…Thanks for the info 👌🏽
You're welcome.
I'm going to have trouble getting a Thai bank account could I go to the Thai embassy in Laos apply for a retirement visa for Thailand there
Using my UK bank account
Why are you having trouble opening a Thai bank account?
Sorry, I know nothing about what embassies require or accept.
I haven't tried yet am coming to Thailand in May and I'm hearing it is hard to open a bank account with a tourist visa or 60 day
It is difficult in many cases to open an account but if you were in Chiang Rai, and had an address you could use, my wife can get you a bank account.@@maddog6329
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand I'm going to live in Si Sa Ket
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Please, could any one advise an immigration agency (with reasonable prices) in Bangkok to assist me get a Non-O visa (one year long ). I am currently in Thailand and have an O-A visa (for one year) which will expire in a few months.
Also , where can I get the forms for Non-O applications. I know they have them at immigration centre but I wanted to save time and fill out all information before going to immigration office.
You cannot change an oa visa to an o visa.
The only way to change to an o visa is go home and apply for a 90 day non o then return and renew as o. If you leave to do that before your visa expires, do not get a re-entry permit so your oa visa gets cancelled on departure from Thailand.
I’m not changing it I’m just saying that once my O-A visa is expired Can I apply for a NON-O visa while I’m in Thailand before expiry? This is for next year before the O-A is about to expire, can it be done without leaving the country ? Thank you
@Max-ut4xo NO!!! As I said, you cannot change an OA visa to an O visa in Thailand before or after it expires.
1. No such thing as a "retirement visa". It is a Non-Immigrant O or Non-Immigrant O-A.
2. Lived here for 13 1/2 years now and have never, ever used a TM 30 for anything.
We all know it is not a retirement visa, but it's so much easier to say.
Well done on your 13 and a half years. I hope you enjoy your reward and look forward to the party.
1. You omitted the O-X and a few others that fall under the O category, also, you are being being pedantic
2. Then I guess you have never travelled away from home for more than 24 hours. Either that or you've been breaking some rules.
Really there is no such thing as a retirement visa in Thailand. A non imm O visa allows you to stay in Thailand for 90 days 1 month before the visa runs out you apply for a visa extension of 1 year based on retirement. If you meet all the requirements and have the correct paper work in place you then do the same every year. You keep extending the same O visa. I think I am correct in saying this ?
Strictly speaking there is no such thing as a retirement visa, it is a non-immigrant O/OA/OX extension of stay based on retirement. The same is true for married folks. However, a retirement visa is what everybody, including immigration officers call it.
You should make clear , your wife’s , services , are only available in your specific area of Thailand,
Also the Australian embassy in Bangkok , will have nothing to do with supplying , proof of Pension income
Peter
Re. wife, you are correct. The UK and USA will not issue these letters either.
has some year try make my one year visa at many north thailand immigration not make visa if try make compination incoming,money, if homecountry come to thailand x money and all other have in thai bank saved, not accept this compination, only have ALL money income 65000 B or all money have in thai bank account, but compination not work anywere i has ask many many north thailand immigration. all visa papers go to BKK ministry and accept or not there. my experience have and many my friends, same NOT can make visa if money not have ALL to bank or income have more than 65000B/month.
Really?
FINDING IT HARD TO GET A HEALTH INSURANCE YOU CAN TRUST OVER 70
It isn't easy. Have you tried Pacific Cross.
Depends who you know 😂 5000 u.s $ , pulls alot of strings, be careful of scammers 😂
Not everybody has 5000 to throw away.
I am so glad I switched from a Non-O Retirement VISA to a 10-year LTR VISA. The TM30 nonsense is not only inconvenient for the VISA holder but also the landlord, hotel and a house book-holding Thai spouse!
Unfortunately most cannot afford that option, but I am happy for you.
Is it true that living in Thailand causes you to grow giant hands?
Do you have real question?
Yes, sorry I was just lightening things up with a little humor.
I will likely be trying to apply from my own country, tjhe US.
My primary question is, for a bank statement, I can meet both the income requirement and the balance requirement. I will have recently transitioned from working full-time to retirement, so my bank statement will show a higher twice monthly income changing to a once monthly lower pension income, pet store near income requirements. Will they not accept the fact that I've only been receiving the pension for a short period of time? If that is a problem I could still do the balance requirement in my own bank.
Another consideration is it I will have moved from one state to another just a few months before applying. I would like to open up a new bank account in my new US location. But would they have a problem with a bank account looking at new?
Thanks for the information I am moving to tyland in 16 mo I'll get in touch with you when it gets closer I would like to hire your wife to help me out if it's ok my name is bobby I'm from Cincinnati OH USA
Good luck with your plans. Jen can help you only in Chiang Rai.
Making YT videos while resident in Thailand is about to come under scrutiny. Thai govt announced two weeks ago, even if income is paid into foreign accounts. Could have big impact on the many farang creators as it will be considered employment.
You are allowed to work on your (wifes) land! We (the wife) have a farm in cha-am. I am legally allowed to do as much work as i like on the land. I am not allowed to profit from what we produce but we have a joint bank account so it makes no difference.
Yes, that is a concern I have had for about 12 months. For me, I hope they will see it for what it is, my hobby. I am not and never will be monetized, so never mind profit, for me it is only costs.
Hope this puts some scam agents outta business. Well written
Thank you. Living up here in Chiang Rai, we don't find many scammers. In fact I know of nobody except myself that has been scammed and that was for an item advertised on Facebook.
@@AllAboutLifeInThailand They are mostly i think in BKK, Pattaya, and Phuket, and possibly; CM as well. Many Farand as you appreciate have not the patience nor resilience to deal with the minutiae of Thai officialdom, - be then banks, Immigration. So they opt for agents.
Yes, I totally get that. I used an agent when I first arrived 13 years ago. Then I met Jen and she has helped me ever since. The biggest problems are language issues and the fact that immigration officers often want something you did not bring to the party.
can you explain more what kind of scam or specifics? to alert others
@@drkenchao1849 Many agents have immigration officials. on their payroll to validate their businesses. for example, falsifying banking requirements by offering money into an account within the allotted time-frames. additionally, they may arrange a passport stay extension to a province far-removed from actual location.