I run Patagonia MT's on my 97F250HD, and love them. Many big name off roaders swear by the milestar Patagonia MT's, and Matt from Matt's offroad recovery swears by them. Especially in rocky, sandy trails.
Matt used to run Goodyear Duratracs as his go to tire to bring home the bacon. He did a segment as to why he now runs the milestars, and he switched not because they are the best, but because they are best in the sand. He explained the Patagonias were able to go down to extremely low tire pressures and floated the sand the best. His son Rudy still runs the Duratracs on his XJ. And as most who watch them know, they get the job done and are a good indication as to what really is what when work-horsing your tires.
Im at the 1 year mark with these tires on a 99 k1500 with 1 ton sas. ZERO ISSUES. 60% highway/40% offroad . I rotated at around 5000 mi and didnt have any cupping. worked excellent on snowpacked and icey roads in Montana. over the summer they did the exact route of the 2020 ultimate adventure. Mud,rocks, steep inclines on loose gravel, water crossings and even an abandoned railroad tunnel. no problems. currently aired down and handling deep snow during Montana elk hunting season like a champ. worth ever cent.
I'm running the 37 12.50 17s on my 2016 Ram Power wagon, loaded with tools and supplies it weighs 9800, and I love them. They wear ok, no cupping, and I have rotated mine 3 times in about 18000 MI. I've had them to Moab Utah for a total of about 2 weeks worth of Wheeling on two separate trips, driving there 7 hours one way. I frequently pull a 30 ft toy hauler, a 35 ft Forest River windjammer travel trailer, and when I'm not doing that I pull a 4,500 lb dump trailer that has a mini excavator in it that weighs 8300. The last MTs I had on this Power wagon were 35" Cooper stt pros and they got shredded on the rocks. Now I've went on two separate trips on the same rocks with these patagonias and they're not even damaged, so I would say they're probably the best Mt I've ever had specially for $250 a piece.
@@bobvincent4841 I have a ram 1500 with the 5.7 and according to my center console up top I get 9.8 mpg with these as well...Guess it's just a ram thing lol..Great truck it's worth the gas mileage
On my second set of these on my 2017 F350 Superduty dually… they are 37x12.50r20 and they’ve held up pretty good, first set got around 55k miles on them and that’s with a good bit of pulling including 15k lb skid steer and 20k lb dozer
Ran a set of these on my Jeep and couldn't believe how well they performed on the ice and snow. Living in Alaska that's a key selling point since I don't have to swap out tires between seasons.👍👍
Got them on my 4Runner in Ak. Too great tire, sounds like it could degrade fast-wondering how hard self sipping is. Price is definitely higher here lol
@@Maybe-you-know-me. Mine still look new on my Ford F-150 and the wife's Jeep. As long as we stay away from hillside in Anchorage we haven't had any problems getting around. It's easier to do extra siping when they're new but if you air them up to 38 psi they run on the center tread as recommended.
4wd F350 diesel SRW crew cab short box and I've had these on 2 years now. Absolutely love them. Also hauled our 30' travel trailer regularly with these with no excessive wear. Regularly rotated, no loud road noise and still have awesome tread with 10,000+ miles.
@@jeremycooper2209 if you decide to get them hopefully they're as good for you as they have been for me! I'm actually debating now to try the XT for my next set. I didn't necessarily need MT when I bought them but they didn't offer the XT then.
I run 35x12.5 R15. since Feb on my truck as a daily driver and These tires are the best quality in my opinion! I bought mines on Amazon for 740 all 4 free shipping. I've taken them to the snow and mud and they do not disappoint! You need to run them on max psi so they don't wear out un evenly, and yes the tires grip really good!! It doesn't have that cheap plastic feeling to the tire. I'd recommend these tires to anyone, it's a great quality tire at the best price! Yes they do great in the rain and I have a 6inch lift! They are still quiet on mine.
I’m on my 3rd set! The new 35x12.5x20 m/t are now M/t 2.0 . Best freaking tire on the market. Love them on my mega cab 2500! 17 months of Highway use 65,789 miles on my last set!
Just put a set on my 04 expedition. Great price. I could not be happier. I wanted a real mean looking tire. I had a blast pulling people out of ditches during our last snow storm. It paid for 2 of the tires.
I have the Milestar Patagonia LT315/70R17 M/T on my 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon. I have over 57,000 km on this unit, and had them on a traded in Sport S that had 27,000. I rotate them every 3000 km, and they work great in the minu 35 C cold and deep snow in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. I love this tire, and I plan to go to a 38 inch tire after I can afford to install the Teraflex 4.5 inch lift this coming winter. I had to get the tire pressure right, at 37 psi, to get the best flat wear pattern.
Thanks for your post. In FL here all we have is mud and sand. Im shopping around because my preferred nitto trail grapplers have been on backorder for 10 months and I can't wait any longer
I heavily considered these Patigonia's while building a wheel and tire package for my CJ-7. I ended up going with the Dick Cepek extreme country instead and for my needs I think that was the right choice. I recently picked up a set of Kenda Klever AT2's for my Sequoia and I have to say so far I like them a lot better then the KO2'S I had previously. Love these videos, nobody else show the tires features up close with a detailed explanation. Keep up the good work!
@@CampusautoCo I will give my thoughts so far about the Kenda Klever at2. I only have about 6k miles on the Kenda's so far but I have had the chance to drive them in just about every condition. I live in north Idaho so we get pretty significant winters. These Kenda's replaced some bfg KO2's that only had about 10k miles on them. I replaced the KO2's because I had a vibration at highway speeds that I couldn't get rid of after several attempts to rebalance. In deep snow the Kenda's are better then the KO2's, in snow deeper the 4 or 5 inches the Kenda's dig much better. The KO2's tended to make a hole for themselves and just spin. On the hard packed/icy roads the Kenda's are WAY better. The KO2's would spin easily while accelerating and would lock up easily while braking. The Kenda's are much more manageable in these conditions. In the mud the Kenda's perform well and tend to clean out much better then the KO2's, they are no mud tire but they will do their job as long as you don't get too crazy. At freeway speeds both of these tire are about the same with a slight increase in noise with the Kenda's but not much. The Kenda's are much smoother over rough roads. I will give the KO2's some love as far as durability as the sidewalls do appear to be a little tougher but the Kenda's seem on par with other tires I have used in this category, the KO2's just seemed to have a very stout sidewall/carcass. All in all I would definitely recommend the Kenda Klever AT2's over the BFG KO2's based off of my experience, the Kenda's perform better in almost every way and are roughly 1/2 the price. The Kenda's also come with a 50k-60k treadwear warranty ( depending on load range) and they are mountain/snowflake rated. I think these Kenda's could become a very popular tire once availability becomes better.
You are correct to run the correct preasure on the paragonias! My first set i run them on 25 psi and i distroy them now im running g my second set and im running them on 35 psi and they still looking brand new.
Had a set of these years ago on a 2015 Ram 1500 and now just bought a set for my JKU build. It's a 2014 and I didn't want to stick a ton of cash into it and had decent luck with these years ago even in the MN winters. Are there better options? Absolutely!! But, for the $1200 installed price they are hard to beat and I agree with the "try it" conclusion.
I'm running these in a 315/70 ... so far they are great. They are overall quite and run well on the hwy and the trail. I expect that they are a bit softer and I don't expect the mileage of other name brands. As of today would I repurchase .... Yes
I know its a year old video but my 2c. I was considering these tires for my 03 f250 super duty 6.8 v10. For a "budget tire" in the size I wanted (285 75 16) they were damn near the same price as the bfg ko2's I was replacing. A bit more looking at different options I came across the thunderer trac grip m/t and thought they looked pretty rad. Read the limited reviews I found on them and surprisingly they were pretty good. After some searching they were cheaper but not much less than the milestars. Then just by chance after looking online for a good price I looked at Walmart and they had the thunderer trac grip on rollback and I bought them at 120.00 each in 285 75 16. With tax it was 522 and change with free shipping to the store. I mounted them myself and my tire shop charged me 100 to balance them since I didn't buy them through them. So 622 bucks and 3 years later they still look great. I work in construction and have hat them in every condition you could throw at them and they have been great. I think I've rotated them 2 times in the 3 years. They are a little noisy but I like that kind if stuff. I highly recommend them if you can get a deal like I did. If you're paying 225 to 250 a tire for a "budget tire" there are so many better options out there with name brands. All in all I'm extremely happy with them definitely exceeded my expectations.
I wheel in the South East and have heard about and seen these tires quite a bit. General consensus is they are very good in the west and drier climates for crawling etc. But are not very good in wet or muddy conditions. I have seen a few stumble on trails at windrock where the rocks are muddy and nasty but the SST Pro and Trail Grappler have no problems. Just my .02, not knocking the tire.
Thanks for your post. In FL here all we have is mud and sand. Im shopping around because my preferred trail grapplers have been on backorder for 10 months and I can't wait any longer
The reason for mentioning a 3k mile rotation is that people treat them like a ht and try to rotate at 10k which is 1/3 the way through the tire life of a soft Mt
I run these on a lifted wrangler. Cant beat the beat the aggressive look and the sidewalls are awesome! I run mostly on payment and they have been really quiet, but after 15k miles they are getting a little noisy....But they are a mud tire so I expected as much. If you keep them rotated they will give you great service life...
Thank you for honest feedback on this review! Deciding on this or a 3rd set of Copper STT Pro. I like the coopers but want a better highway ride without a highway look
I have a set of 35x1`2.5 on my XJ and absolutely love them. I don't anticipate they will have a long life-span, but road noise is minimal when full inflated getting to the trails and they are beasts on the trail. And...I love the Flintstones Font
I run the Dynapro MT2's on my Jeep JL. I watched Lite Bright's vid on the Patagonia's and the did say they are not a mileage tire due to the softer compound and being a crowned tire. Now if I had my way I have straight off road tires for play and a set for just running on pavement........
@MontanaMountain You are just the guy I want to talk to! I love Matt's review of the Dynapro MT2 and I'm really excited about that tire but I see all these people making comments about how when you get on light snow or heavy wet roads that the tire is all over the place and not very stable. I also see people saying that the tire is not stable at high speeds on the open road as well. I think they just don't know how to drive. Will you please give me your comments about those situations and in Montana, sheeze, you have to be able to talk to me about snow and the MT2, thank you!!!
@@donaldlavigne949 Sorry for the very late reply. I've been running the MT2 Dynapro by Hankook for over a year. They handle mud/ snow well and at highway speed are not that loud. So far I'm very impressed , now Montana gets a lot of ice/ snow and mud. That said for highway driving in my 2019 JL 2 door in run 33 lbs of air all year around, no problems at all.
Great review and video as well. I have been trying to make up my mind about these tires. I just picked up a painfully stock 77 F-150 Ranger XLT with dual tanks. With the 351m 400 4X4. It even still has the factory AM FM 8-track player installed in the dash. It's got a little patina on it and I'm going to keep it as stock looking as possible. I think those tires would look good on there. It's kind of a farm truck but it's got nice trim and this funky factory hard vinyl roof that reminds me of rhino liner. I found out from the VIN number there was not too many of them made. It's been sitting for 6 years so I have to get these tires on it and pull it out of the backyard where it's been sitting.
we put these on are lifted jeep liberty and they are cool looking BUT they dont last !!! less then 3,000 miles and they are cupping bad..My next tire we are going to try is the Mickey thompson baja boss a/t for long life..
I just wish i could see longterm smooth riding balancing proof since 95% of my driving is highway. Some say awesome, some say hard to balance. I've never seen an imported cheaper tire that didn't take a lot of weight to balance IF it ever balanced. Love that these are getting press but still skeered to try them
I've been running these for almost two years on an F150 with a 12" Bulletproof lift, 10" Atlas springs in the rear with Sulastic springs/shackles, that I use as a daily and pull a 20ft car hauler. I still have well over half tread left on mine and they feel much better in the rain and snow than other tires I've used similar in size, tread, etc. Before I had these I had Nitto's, and Toyo's and neither one rode as well nor lasted as long. Both had way more road noise than these as well. Make sure you run enough pressure in these though or you will have the feathering issue that other's have had. These are crowned tires and need to ride on the center portion of the tread not all the across like say a Toyo M/T. As for balancing I just use beads in mine and have never had an issue. I think I put like 10 oz or so in each tire if I remember correctly.
"You're living the high life if you've got Patagonia tires" LMAO!! One thing I learned about these tires from Lite-Brite was concerning air pressure. They're made to have a crown and only really run on the center rib on the pavement, so if you try to do the chalk test to get an even contact with the ground, you'll be running pressure that's actually way too low for the street.
@@CampusautoCo to be honest with you, those are the videos that I DON'T watch. I feel like their content is good enough that they don't need to resort to that type of thing, but that's just me.
Great explanation on this type of tire I used to run Indonesia made tires on my semi they make dang good tires so they make good semi truck tires Patagonia tires will be pretty good on my pickup truck
You HAVE to CROSSX rotate them 3-5k thats what milestar says...its a Hybrid thats why...I used to not X rotate my 1st set of Hybrid Nitto Ridge Grapplers in my 4R and they totally cupped bc I only moved em F-R. you have to X rotate Hybrids to make em last and wear even. Got 38" paties on my '84 1 ton chevy they are good. 33-35psi all the time no matter what you used to do w deflating mud tires for highway(bc hybrids need to ride down the middle why they are quiet)
If you find yourself needing to rotate them that often it's more than likely because you are running the wrong tire pressure. If you run too low a pressure on a crowned tread like this one that's one of the issues you can have along with feathering and cupping. You should be running on just the middle of the tire and not all across the tread.
I have used their tires on commercial side and they great for an import and they also have a good website unlike others even Firestone's and Bridgestone's website sucks
@@CampusautoCo Yes, it is an odd size with few decent tires to choose from. Not stock size for sure. 07 4Runner 4WD. I like the lower rolling resistance and the height.
I bought a set about 4 yrs ago, put them on a jacked up dodge i use for running to the lumber store, taking the boat to the lake and for driving in the snow here in Michigan. I probably put 15-20 thousand miles on them and never rotated them. I sold the truck and they still had decent tread on them, only slight cupping, and the set was under 500 dollars mounted and balanced from discount. I found them online and had to order them, but i liked them better than the $1,100 dollar BF Goodrich all terrains and they were barley louder on the highway driving 80. I'd buy them again. Im looking for a all terrain for my tundra to pull a small converted cargo trailer, I'll be driving out west from Washington down to Montana into Nevada and back thru utah. What do you recommend for a lot of highway driving and going off road too? I've looked at the grabber at/x and hankook dynapro, but just started looking. Im looking thru your videos for a all terrain video, and thought I'd give my two cents on this tire. I'd give them a 4.5 out of 5 star.
Had a set on my Comanche in 37x12.50x17s. I absolutely hated them. Loud, difficult to balance, and were terrible in East Coast muddy conditions. They are better suited for West Coast rocks and sand.
Wouldn't it make more sense to run less air pressure so that the entire tread pattern wears evenly instead of the center of the tread wearing out before the rest of the tread?
Just purchased a pair of 265/70r17 for my Tacoma, will post some updates after a few weeks of what I think. Praying I don't regret pulling the trigger on these @CampusAutomotiveInc
I’ve been trying to get a set for my power wagon, but, it seems everyone is out of stock. My duratracs are at 4/32nds, so I might have to get them Toyo open country at3’s🤷🏼♂️
No one is doing any reviews on Hankook Dynapro MT2, why???? I can't find any reviews, it's starting to irritate me and I kinda want to buy some come summer.
One of those 4 wheel magazines did a small 33 inch mud tire shoot out 8 or 10 years back and they came out on top back then. The only problem is tire technology has changed considerably since then.
Hey brother what psi would you recommend FOR A 2020 ram 1500 With 305/55/20 PAT MT’s believe my curb weight I assume is 5,000lbs… gvrw is 6,900! Thanks I’m advance!
Hello 👋 I have a “standard” [no lift] 1500 RAM limited. What I have [presently] on it is the “factory” spec 22inch X 9inch aluminum wheels with 285/45R22XL BSW All seasons. Can you recommend a good [comparable] size Milestar Patagonia? (That would [or should] perfectly fit on my 1500 Limited?) Or, if your recommend a tire (that is more superior, for/with Towing, as well) then please tell me (size and exact tire specs please 😉👍). Thanks 👍
I have Patagonia on my JKU and they're trash here in AZ terrain. I don't even will hard on them nor do I go on the sidewalls often, but they've chunked, an entire section of the tire separated and I will not be buying them again. I'm sure in other locations they're probably amazing but AZ Terrain just fucked them up.
Yeah, I loved this tire too... until I needed it to perform properly when it ran low. The tire looks good and performed well - until I it started to go low on the highway. I was going 65 on the open highway when I felt a shimmer. As I began to realize I might be getting a flat - boom, it exploded on me! I’m lucky it was a rear tire or I may have had a serious injury. When I say it exploded I’m not overstating what happened. Absolute catastrophic failure. Wish I could post pictures here. I’ll never trust this tire again. (38x13.5 on a 2007 Jeep JK)
@@KurNorock My post was not about YOU, your experience or your opinion. This post is MY experience. Out of the hundreds of tires I’ve owned and driven on in my relatively long lifetime, this is the only tire that ever exploded while I was using it. You are 100% incorrect in that this IS extremely specific and IS extremely unique to MY experience. If YOU have a different experience then go make your own productive post somewhere and try to help others. Don’t just pull some flippant comment out of your ass, with hopes of getting noticed, by posting a completely incorrect assessment of MY personal experience and MY personal post, which I chose to make so others will have some additional input to analyze while making their decisions. I’m sure your mom thinks you’re important and believes that your opinions matter, so you can feel good about that at least, but good grief I’d think you’re old enough to know better than to randomly spew out your lame ass opinions and expect people to pay attention to you. But some people just need attention I suppose.
I have them. They were quiet for about 5,000 miles and then they have just gotten louder and ride so rough. I have them on a 2018 Tacoma. I have not enjoyed mine at all. Several keep friends love them but I guess they aren’t my cup of tea. Love the videos mate.
Too quiet in my opinion. If I’m going to have M/T’s, I want to be heard a mile away if I’m on the pavement lol. If I want quiet tires, well I just wouldn’t get M/T’s. Just my personal preference. Price point is great. Rock crawling and snow capability is great. Super quiet (which to me is a negative). I think this is a top choice for a more off-road focused vehicle/person who is going to be chewing up rubber like skittles. In my opinion, if you’re not competing, DOT PAT’s are very well rounded and you won’t be impacted as much financially when the time comes to replace.
Ok tire fans, here's the real truth about the Patagonia MT. Its an average to good tire that when it was $ 280.00 for a 37x12.50x17 it wasn't a bad tire. But there is no effin way it is a $ 400.00 dollar tire. Now for the low down from a Patagonia customer. That's me. I've now run three (3) sets of the 37x12.50x17 over the last two and a half years. You will get about 25,000 miles before they are down to the tread bars/ If all you want is a ''slick rock'' crawler for the Moab area, its not all that bad. But if you expect to get more than 20,000 to 30,000 miles out of it then forget this tire. It just doesnt get it, any more than a Joe Biden supporter thinks it was a good idea to vote for that clown.
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I run Patagonia MT's on my 97F250HD, and love them. Many big name off roaders swear by the milestar Patagonia MT's, and Matt from Matt's offroad recovery swears by them. Especially in rocky, sandy trails.
I’m pretty sure this is the tire that Matt’s Off Road Recovery is running on his Cherokee. That Jeep goes 👉👈☝️👇everywhere and he loves them.
Yes he does. I watch him all of the time. We both have towing services. He has 525K subscribers too!
@Zavier Joziah stfu
Matt used to run Goodyear Duratracs as his go to tire to bring home the bacon. He did a segment as to why he now runs the milestars, and he switched not because they are the best, but because they are best in the sand. He explained the Patagonias were able to go down to extremely low tire pressures and floated the sand the best. His son Rudy still runs the Duratracs on his XJ. And as most who watch them know, they get the job done and are a good indication as to what really is what when work-horsing your tires.
And Matt abuses his tires like nobody. Runs them at 8psi on road and off.
Yeah they are he is constantly losing traction on full lockers gravel, mud, snow these tires look cool and are cheap but don't perform.
Im at the 1 year mark with these tires on a 99 k1500 with 1 ton sas. ZERO ISSUES. 60% highway/40% offroad . I rotated at around 5000 mi and didnt have any cupping. worked excellent on snowpacked and icey roads in Montana. over the summer they did the exact route of the 2020 ultimate adventure. Mud,rocks, steep inclines on loose gravel, water crossings and even an abandoned railroad tunnel. no problems. currently aired down and handling deep snow during Montana elk hunting season like a champ. worth ever cent.
First time seeing you review a tire and I’ve never seen someone explain the tire in this much detail. 👌
Glad you liked it!!
I'm running the 37 12.50 17s on my 2016 Ram Power wagon, loaded with tools and supplies it weighs 9800, and I love them. They wear ok, no cupping, and I have rotated mine 3 times in about 18000 MI. I've had them to Moab Utah for a total of about 2 weeks worth of Wheeling on two separate trips, driving there 7 hours one way. I frequently pull a 30 ft toy hauler, a 35 ft Forest River windjammer travel trailer, and when I'm not doing that I pull a 4,500 lb dump trailer that has a mini excavator in it that weighs 8300. The last MTs I had on this Power wagon were 35" Cooper stt pros and they got shredded on the rocks. Now I've went on two separate trips on the same rocks with these patagonias and they're not even damaged, so I would say they're probably the best Mt I've ever had specially for $250 a piece.
Awesome feedback. You really put those tires to the test. I bet that Power Wagon uses a ton of gas doing all of those things!
@@CampusautoCo I love the truck but it SUCKS GASS. 10 mph average Lol
@@bobvincent4841 I have a ram 1500 with the 5.7 and according to my center console up top I get 9.8 mpg with these as well...Guess it's just a ram thing lol..Great truck it's worth the gas mileage
‘Funky Flintstone Font’, ‘Cause you know, you’re livin’ the High Life if you have Patagonia tires’. Hahah. Love your reviews!
Lol. Thanks for watching!
On my second set of these on my 2017 F350 Superduty dually… they are 37x12.50r20 and they’ve held up pretty good, first set got around 55k miles on them and that’s with a good bit of pulling including 15k lb skid steer and 20k lb dozer
Ran a set of these on my Jeep and couldn't believe how well they performed on the ice and snow. Living in Alaska that's a key selling point since I don't have to swap out tires between seasons.👍👍
Right on
Got them on my 4Runner in Ak. Too great tire, sounds like it could degrade fast-wondering how hard self sipping is.
Price is definitely higher here lol
@@Maybe-you-know-me. Mine still look new on my Ford F-150 and the wife's Jeep. As long as we stay away from hillside in Anchorage we haven't had any problems getting around. It's easier to do extra siping when they're new but if you air them up to 38 psi they run on the center tread as recommended.
Flintstones font.. love it!
Lol
Great call on the siping, I thought I was the only one that called it the “Flintstones font” 😂. Excellent info on the tire. 💯🇺🇸
Glad you enjoyed it
4wd F350 diesel SRW crew cab short box and I've had these on 2 years now. Absolutely love them. Also hauled our 30' travel trailer regularly with these with no excessive wear. Regularly rotated, no loud road noise and still have awesome tread with 10,000+ miles.
Very cool!
Thanks for the info I'm looking at a set for my f250
@@jeremycooper2209 if you decide to get them hopefully they're as good for you as they have been for me! I'm actually debating now to try the XT for my next set. I didn't necessarily need MT when I bought them but they didn't offer the XT then.
Well I was really on the fence about this tire for my Toyota, and your trusted review helped convince me that new Yokohama MT might be the way to go
Good Choice!
I run 35x12.5 R15. since Feb on my truck as a daily driver and These tires are the best quality in my opinion! I bought mines on Amazon for 740 all 4 free shipping. I've taken them to the snow and mud and they do not disappoint! You need to run them on max psi so they don't wear out un evenly, and yes the tires grip really good!! It doesn't have that cheap plastic feeling to the tire. I'd recommend these tires to anyone, it's a great quality tire at the best price! Yes they do great in the rain and I have a 6inch lift! They are still quiet on mine.
Awesome!
I’m on my 3rd set! The new 35x12.5x20 m/t are now M/t 2.0 . Best freaking tire on the market. Love them on my mega cab 2500! 17 months of Highway use 65,789 miles on my last set!
Just put a set on my 04 expedition. Great price. I could not be happier. I wanted a real mean looking tire. I had a blast pulling people out of ditches during our last snow storm. It paid for 2 of the tires.
I run these on a 1981 f100 31x10.5 15 and they’re great ! really quiet and smooth on the road
Nice
I have the Milestar Patagonia LT315/70R17 M/T on my 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon. I have over 57,000 km on this unit, and had them on a traded in Sport S that had 27,000. I rotate them every 3000 km, and they work great in the minu 35 C cold and deep snow in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. I love this tire, and I plan to go to a 38 inch tire after I can afford to install the Teraflex 4.5 inch lift this coming winter. I had to get the tire pressure right, at 37 psi, to get the best flat wear pattern.
Thanks for your post. In FL here all we have is mud and sand. Im shopping around because my preferred nitto trail grapplers have been on backorder for 10 months and I can't wait any longer
I heavily considered these Patigonia's while building a wheel and tire package for my CJ-7. I ended up going with the Dick Cepek extreme country instead and for my needs I think that was the right choice. I recently picked up a set of Kenda Klever AT2's for my Sequoia and I have to say so far I like them a lot better then the KO2'S I had previously. Love these videos, nobody else show the tires features up close with a detailed explanation. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback. keep me posted on how they do.
@@CampusautoCo I will give my thoughts so far about the Kenda Klever at2. I only have about 6k miles on the Kenda's so far but I have had the chance to drive them in just about every condition. I live in north Idaho so we get pretty significant winters. These Kenda's replaced some bfg KO2's that only had about 10k miles on them. I replaced the KO2's because I had a vibration at highway speeds that I couldn't get rid of after several attempts to rebalance. In deep snow the Kenda's are better then the KO2's, in snow deeper the 4 or 5 inches the Kenda's dig much better. The KO2's tended to make a hole for themselves and just spin. On the hard packed/icy roads the Kenda's are WAY better. The KO2's would spin easily while accelerating and would lock up easily while braking. The Kenda's are much more manageable in these conditions. In the mud the Kenda's perform well and tend to clean out much better then the KO2's, they are no mud tire but they will do their job as long as you don't get too crazy. At freeway speeds both of these tire are about the same with a slight increase in noise with the Kenda's but not much. The Kenda's are much smoother over rough roads. I will give the KO2's some love as far as durability as the sidewalls do appear to be a little tougher but the Kenda's seem on par with other tires I have used in this category, the KO2's just seemed to have a very stout sidewall/carcass. All in all I would definitely recommend the Kenda Klever AT2's over the BFG KO2's based off of my experience, the Kenda's perform better in almost every way and are roughly 1/2 the price. The Kenda's also come with a 50k-60k treadwear warranty ( depending on load range) and they are mountain/snowflake rated. I think these Kenda's could become a very popular tire once availability becomes better.
You are correct to run the correct preasure on the paragonias! My first set i run them on 25 psi and i distroy them now im running g my second set and im running them on 35 psi and they still looking brand new.
Thanks for the feedback!
My pleasure!
Your tire reviews are the best, man.
They are much better than ATs. After getting mud grapplers, I no longer need to use lockers or air down to 12-8 psi for the pats to grip.
Had a set of these years ago on a 2015 Ram 1500 and now just bought a set for my JKU build. It's a 2014 and I didn't want to stick a ton of cash into it and had decent luck with these years ago even in the MN winters. Are there better options? Absolutely!! But, for the $1200 installed price they are hard to beat and I agree with the "try it" conclusion.
I'm running these in a 315/70 ... so far they are great. They are overall quite and run well on the hwy and the trail. I expect that they are a bit softer and I don't expect the mileage of other name brands. As of today would I repurchase .... Yes
Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you, for adding the weight!
You bet!
Matt runs these on the Morrvair!
Also his xj
I know its a year old video but my 2c. I was considering these tires for my 03 f250 super duty 6.8 v10. For a "budget tire" in the size I wanted (285 75 16) they were damn near the same price as the bfg ko2's I was replacing. A bit more looking at different options I came across the thunderer trac grip m/t and thought they looked pretty rad. Read the limited reviews I found on them and surprisingly they were pretty good. After some searching they were cheaper but not much less than the milestars. Then just by chance after looking online for a good price I looked at Walmart and they had the thunderer trac grip on rollback and I bought them at 120.00 each in 285 75 16. With tax it was 522 and change with free shipping to the store. I mounted them myself and my tire shop charged me 100 to balance them since I didn't buy them through them. So 622 bucks and 3 years later they still look great. I work in construction and have hat them in every condition you could throw at them and they have been great. I think I've rotated them 2 times in the 3 years. They are a little noisy but I like that kind if stuff. I highly recommend them if you can get a deal like I did. If you're paying 225 to 250 a tire for a "budget tire" there are so many better options out there with name brands. All in all I'm extremely happy with them definitely exceeded my expectations.
I wheel in the South East and have heard about and seen these tires quite a bit. General consensus is they are very good in the west and drier climates for crawling etc. But are not very good in wet or muddy conditions. I have seen a few stumble on trails at windrock where the rocks are muddy and nasty but the SST Pro and Trail Grappler have no problems. Just my .02, not knocking the tire.
Awesome info. Thanks for letting me know that.
Thanks for your post. In FL here all we have is mud and sand. Im shopping around because my preferred trail grapplers have been on backorder for 10 months and I can't wait any longer
I have they on a ram 1500 and love them.
The reason for mentioning a 3k mile rotation is that people treat them like a ht and try to rotate at 10k which is 1/3 the way through the tire life of a soft Mt
Great review, and crystal clear sound.Good job all around.
Much appreciated!
Best tire reviews vids and such a pro man! 👏 I'm thinking to get these for my ram 1500, I am convinced just hope they're well worth it!
I run these on a lifted wrangler. Cant beat the beat the aggressive look and the sidewalls are awesome! I run mostly on payment and they have been really quiet, but after 15k miles they are getting a little noisy....But they are a mud tire so I expected as much. If you keep them rotated they will give you great service life...
Dude they have fake siping 🤭
Thank you for honest feedback on this review! Deciding on this or a 3rd set of Copper STT Pro. I like the coopers but want a better highway ride without a highway look
Look at the new Cooper that I just reviewed.
Thanks for the in depth look. I’ll stick with my KO2’s.
I have a set of 35x1`2.5 on my XJ and absolutely love them. I don't anticipate they will have a long life-span, but road noise is minimal when full inflated getting to the trails and they are beasts on the trail. And...I love the Flintstones Font
Awesome, thanks for the feedback!
I like the tread look. I have a Willys and want to keep rugged look.
I run the Dynapro MT2's on my Jeep JL. I watched Lite Bright's vid on the Patagonia's and the did say they are not a mileage tire due to the softer compound and being a crowned tire. Now if I had my way I have straight off road tires for play and a set for just running on pavement........
I heard that. Thanks for watching!
@MontanaMountain You are just the guy I want to talk to! I love Matt's review of the Dynapro MT2 and I'm really excited about that tire but I see all these people making comments about how when you get on light snow or heavy wet roads that the tire is all over the place and not very stable. I also see people saying that the tire is not stable at high speeds on the open road as well. I think they just don't know how to drive. Will you please give me your comments about those situations and in Montana, sheeze, you have to be able to talk to me about snow and the MT2, thank you!!!
@@donaldlavigne949 Sorry for the very late reply. I've been running the MT2 Dynapro by Hankook for over a year. They handle mud/ snow well and at highway speed are not that loud. So far I'm very impressed , now Montana gets a lot of ice/ snow and mud. That said for highway driving in my 2019 JL 2 door in run 33 lbs of air all year around, no problems at all.
Me and my wife run these on our jeeps 33's and they are great offroad, on road they are eh. Like clock work rotate every 3k.
Good honest review, they sponsor several key TH-camrs...
I have them on my 3/4 ton 1989 GMC k2500 4x4 8 years i had them still good shape
Great review and video as well. I have been trying to make up my mind about these tires. I just picked up a painfully stock 77 F-150 Ranger XLT with dual tanks. With the 351m 400 4X4. It even still has the factory AM FM 8-track player installed in the dash.
It's got a little patina on it and I'm going to keep it as stock looking as possible. I think those tires would look good on there. It's kind of a farm truck but it's got nice trim and this funky factory hard vinyl roof that reminds me of rhino liner. I found out from the VIN number there was not too many of them made. It's been sitting for 6 years so I have to get these tires on it and pull it out of the backyard where it's been sitting.
Good choice.
we put these on are lifted jeep liberty and they are cool looking BUT they dont last !!! less then 3,000 miles and they are cupping bad..My next tire we are going to try is the Mickey thompson baja boss a/t for long life..
Another really good review. I’d also like to see what you think about the new Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T. Thanks.
Coming soon!
I just wish i could see longterm smooth riding balancing proof since 95% of my driving is highway. Some say awesome, some say hard to balance. I've never seen an imported cheaper tire that didn't take a lot of weight to balance IF it ever balanced. Love that these are getting press but still skeered to try them
You and me both!
I've been running these for almost two years on an F150 with a 12" Bulletproof lift, 10" Atlas springs in the rear with Sulastic springs/shackles, that I use as a daily and pull a 20ft car hauler. I still have well over half tread left on mine and they feel much better in the rain and snow than other tires I've used similar in size, tread, etc. Before I had these I had Nitto's, and Toyo's and neither one rode as well nor lasted as long. Both had way more road noise than these as well.
Make sure you run enough pressure in these though or you will have the feathering issue that other's have had. These are crowned tires and need to ride on the center portion of the tread not all the across like say a Toyo M/T. As for balancing I just use beads in mine and have never had an issue. I think I put like 10 oz or so in each tire if I remember correctly.
"You're living the high life if you've got Patagonia tires" LMAO!!
One thing I learned about these tires from Lite-Brite was concerning air pressure. They're made to have a crown and only really run on the center rib on the pavement, so if you try to do the chalk test to get an even contact with the ground, you'll be running pressure that's actually way too low for the street.
I watched their video too and saw the same thing. They get way more views becasue of her bikini!
@@CampusautoCo to be honest with you, those are the videos that I DON'T watch. I feel like their content is good enough that they don't need to resort to that type of thing, but that's just me.
@@trailrunnah8886 I'm the same way, I have always felt like it was click bait but I think most of their actual tire content is pretty good.
@@CampusautoCo That bikini is the only reason I watch lite-brite videos
Can you compare Duratrac vs this? I've had 2 sets of Duratracs and am gonna need a new set soon. Thx!
Great explanation on this type of tire I used to run Indonesia made tires on my semi they make dang good tires so they make good semi truck tires Patagonia tires will be pretty good on my pickup truck
You HAVE to CROSSX rotate them 3-5k thats what milestar says...its a Hybrid thats why...I used to not X rotate my 1st set of Hybrid Nitto Ridge Grapplers in my 4R and they totally cupped bc I only moved em F-R. you have to X rotate Hybrids to make em last and wear even. Got 38" paties on my '84 1 ton chevy they are good. 33-35psi all the time no matter what you used to do w deflating mud tires for highway(bc hybrids need to ride down the middle why they are quiet)
If you find yourself needing to rotate them that often it's more than likely because you are running the wrong tire pressure. If you run too low a pressure on a crowned tread like this one that's one of the issues you can have along with feathering and cupping. You should be running on just the middle of the tire and not all across the tread.
They are fire!
Looks a lot like the new 2020 Kumho MT-71 (not to mix up with the older MT KL71)
It does
Hey Matt keep it up Thank you 👍 The Vermonter
Hey, thanks!
Really wanna go with the Patagonia MT.. cant find a 285/75 at my price point.
Trash the 1st month I had them and went off roading a few times I lost two treads... No joke the threads are softer than medicated cotton
I hate that. I appreciate the real world feedback though.
I'm trying them for the first tim.eim not really liking them. . I put the mickey Thompson and I definitely prefer those. Ride quality is apparent
These tires rock
I bought milestars a few years back. They tried and tried to balance them but couldn’t get it perfect.
Thanks for the feedback!
I have used their tires on commercial side and they great for an import and they also have a good website unlike others even Firestone's and Bridgestone's website sucks
Very true.
I had 35's in Patagonia, liked them. Unfortunately, they don't offer 255/80/17 so can't buy them again
That's an odd size. What does it go on?
@@CampusautoCo Yes, it is an odd size with few decent tires to choose from. Not stock size for sure. 07 4Runner 4WD. I like the lower rolling resistance and the height.
Those are sick
Correct!
I bought a set about 4 yrs ago, put them on a jacked up dodge i use for running to the lumber store, taking the boat to the lake and for driving in the snow here in Michigan. I probably put 15-20 thousand miles on them and never rotated them. I sold the truck and they still had decent tread on them, only slight cupping, and the set was under 500 dollars mounted and balanced from discount. I found them online and had to order them, but i liked them better than the $1,100 dollar BF Goodrich all terrains and they were barley louder on the highway driving 80. I'd buy them again.
Im looking for a all terrain for my tundra to pull a small converted cargo trailer, I'll be driving out west from Washington down to Montana into Nevada and back thru utah. What do you recommend for a lot of highway driving and going off road too? I've looked at the grabber at/x and hankook dynapro, but just started looking. Im looking thru your videos for a all terrain video, and thought I'd give my two cents on this tire. I'd give them a 4.5 out of 5 star.
I would try the General or maybe the new Nitto Recon Grappler AT
I’ve got this 40s on my Raptor
Awesome!
Nokian rotiva at plus would like too see that review that mt there definitely looks good
Will do
I love mine
Nice
So... for off-road black muddy soil (hunting sites) this tire, KO2, Duratrac, or General....?
This tire would be ok. All of you suggestions would be a good choice.
Have you done a review of the Maxxis Rzr MT. I just put a set on my truck.
Not yet!
i run these on my jeep and pickup truck ,my friends run them too
Cool. They seem to be very popular.
Had a set on my Comanche in 37x12.50x17s. I absolutely hated them. Loud, difficult to balance, and were terrible in East Coast muddy conditions. They are better suited for West Coast rocks and sand.
There good tires
Wouldn't it make more sense to run less air pressure so that the entire tread pattern wears evenly instead of the center of the tread wearing out before the rest of the tread?
Probably
... this isn't how the tire is designed
Do the new mile star at pro when they come out
Can you review the summitomo encounter at?
I will get one and take a look. Thanks for the suggestion!
Just purchased a pair of 265/70r17 for my Tacoma, will post some updates after a few weeks of what I think. Praying I don't regret pulling the trigger on these @CampusAutomotiveInc
Try them out. Let me know how they do!
How are they doing so far? I am thinking of getting some for my Tacoma.
@@eduardomendiola357 they are great so far. Def a bit loud, but that’s expected from a MT.
Have you taken a look at the kenda klever RT? If not, can you add it to a future review? Thanks!
I do need to get one and do a review.
Can you turn it around to run the black wall side out?
Yeppers
You should compare these to the new kumho mt71
I think this tire is way better!
Campus Automotive Inc 😱
I’ve been trying to get a set for my power wagon, but, it seems everyone is out of stock. My duratracs are at 4/32nds, so I might have to get them Toyo open country at3’s🤷🏼♂️
Try to go up a size on the PW and see if you can get some. Also try Simpletire.com
@@CampusautoCo looking at 35’s/37’s both out of stock 🤷🏼♂️🤣
No one is doing any reviews on Hankook Dynapro MT2, why???? I can't find any reviews, it's starting to irritate me and I kinda want to buy some come summer.
Good question. Maybe because of availability of sizes.
One of those 4 wheel magazines did a small 33 inch mud tire shoot out 8 or 10 years back and they came out on top back then. The only problem is tire technology has changed considerably since then.
Maybe review the Kanati Armor Hog ATX . Made by Greenball Corporation
I will look in to them.
Any vibration at highway speed with these tires 75 + miles?
Yes. For sure.
I'm interested in the at pro but on their website there is no item numbers for it does that mean it is not put yet?
Hey brother what psi would you recommend FOR A 2020 ram 1500 With 305/55/20 PAT MT’s believe my curb weight I assume is 5,000lbs… gvrw is 6,900! Thanks I’m advance!
Try 35 psi
Can I run these 33x12.50x15 on a 15x10 wheel ?? What is the recommended wheel width for the 33 Milestar?
Hello 👋
I have a “standard” [no lift] 1500 RAM limited.
What I have [presently] on it is the “factory” spec 22inch X 9inch aluminum wheels with 285/45R22XL BSW All seasons.
Can you recommend a good [comparable] size Milestar Patagonia? (That would [or should] perfectly fit on my 1500 Limited?)
Or, if your recommend a tire (that is more superior, for/with Towing, as well) then please tell me (size and exact tire specs please 😉👍).
Thanks 👍
I have Patagonia on my JKU and they're trash here in AZ terrain. I don't even will hard on them nor do I go on the sidewalls often, but they've chunked, an entire section of the tire separated and I will not be buying them again.
I'm sure in other locations they're probably amazing but AZ Terrain just fucked them up.
That is good to know.
Nokian rockproof.. ?
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My biggest beef with this tire is that they have horrible chip and cut resistance.
You haven't been the first to tell me that. I have heard of whole chunks of tread coming off.
@@CampusautoCo Thanks for that tip, better stick with the Dynapro MT2!
Flinstone Font 😂😂
they chunk off not very good if u just invest in nitto ya its more but its not double the cost when they ripp apart
Thanks for the feedback!
Just ordered me a set
Nice!
how are they so far?
@@mr.blicky7932 put about 5,000 miles on them daily drive with them too can’t be happier! Plus they look really really good on my Jeep
Yeah, I loved this tire too... until I needed it to perform properly when it ran low. The tire looks good and performed well - until I it started to go low on the highway. I was going 65 on the open highway when I felt a shimmer. As I began to realize I might be getting a flat - boom, it exploded on me! I’m lucky it was a rear tire or I may have had a serious injury. When I say it exploded I’m not overstating what happened. Absolute catastrophic failure. Wish I could post pictures here. I’ll never trust this tire again.
(38x13.5 on a 2007 Jeep JK)
Wow. Thanks for sharing. I hate that happened to you. Glad you are ok.
Any tire brand and model can explode. It isn't specific or unique to this tire.
@@KurNorock My post was not about YOU, your experience or your opinion. This post is MY experience. Out of the hundreds of tires I’ve owned and driven on in my relatively long lifetime, this is the only tire that ever exploded while I was using it. You are 100% incorrect in that this IS extremely specific and IS extremely unique to MY experience. If YOU have a different experience then go make your own productive post somewhere and try to help others. Don’t just pull some flippant comment out of your ass, with hopes of getting noticed, by posting a completely incorrect assessment of MY personal experience and MY personal post, which I chose to make so others will have some additional input to analyze while making their decisions. I’m sure your mom thinks you’re important and believes that your opinions matter, so you can feel good about that at least, but good grief I’d think you’re old enough to know better than to randomly spew out your lame ass opinions and expect people to pay attention to you. But some people just need attention I suppose.
Anyone have these? Are they as quiet as they say?
Anyone???
I have them. They were quiet for about 5,000 miles and then they have just gotten louder and ride so rough. I have them on a 2018 Tacoma. I have not enjoyed mine at all. Several keep friends love them but I guess they aren’t my cup of tea. Love the videos mate.
Too quiet in my opinion. If I’m going to have M/T’s, I want to be heard a mile away if I’m on the pavement lol. If I want quiet tires, well I just wouldn’t get M/T’s. Just my personal preference. Price point is great. Rock crawling and snow capability is great. Super quiet (which to me is a negative). I think this is a top choice for a more off-road focused vehicle/person who is going to be chewing up rubber like skittles. In my opinion, if you’re not competing, DOT PAT’s are very well rounded and you won’t be impacted as much financially when the time comes to replace.
@@thereconodyssey3934 What is your mielage at?
Very quiet! I love mine!
Ok tire fans, here's the real truth about the Patagonia MT.
Its an average to good tire that when it was $ 280.00 for a 37x12.50x17 it wasn't a bad tire.
But there is no effin way it is a $ 400.00 dollar tire.
Now for the low down from a Patagonia customer. That's me. I've now run three (3) sets of the 37x12.50x17 over the last two and a half years.
You will get about 25,000 miles before they are down to the tread bars/ If all you want is a ''slick rock'' crawler for the Moab area, its not all that bad. But if you expect to get more than 20,000 to 30,000 miles out of it then forget this tire. It just doesnt get it, any more than a Joe Biden supporter thinks it was a good idea to vote for that clown.
👍💯
Have your tried pro comp xtreme mt2 tires yet or nope?
No, not yet. I need someone to send me one to review.
Got one tire, not 4 to mount and drive on himself….but it’s a great tire because a friends kid likes them. The review is a waste of time
Country Jonah Hill
High Life..I drink it every day..must be a good tire ;)
The Champaign of beers!
If it were made in America it would be a lot more appetizing.
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