I totally agree with your review. I have the controller too. A really great thing would have been a touch menu. This would also solve the problem of active buttons during the game. In contrast to the Apex 4, the motion control is well usable and the sensitivity is good. The buttons, on the other hand, are disappointing again. There are a lot of good and bad things on the controller. So it probably only stays mid range over all.
Missed opportunity with the dongle not being used via dock pass through. Unshielded USB 3 is All too common in third party peripherals especially docks for things like handheld PC gaming devices. The pass-through allows a quick and easy escape from interference with the bonus of usually getting the dongle right out in the open with a clear line of sight to your controller.
I can’t believe they still haven’t fixed that pass through problem, especially for the Switch mode. Guess we can’t expect much from Chinese companies. Just had my third Gulikit King Kong Pro 2 break also. Was gonna buy this controller and you mentioned the EXACT same problems from months ago are still present. As far as I’m concerned they got one more month of me waiting for it to get fixed before I give up on waiting and just not buy it.
i bought a china version...they named it as betop kunpeng 50... manba one and kunpeng 50 are actually same controller just difference in name...but kunpeng 50 comes with mech tactile face buttons and gulikit hall sticks. supports multi languages
Great review as always VK. I think displays on controllers are a gimmick and waste of money. All I need is a cool RGB LED light design with options for different colors and animations, don't need a display.
I now have both, Betop and Manba. And they are both the same in terms of housing and the concept display. But that's it. Input options are much more diverse with the Betop. In addition, the buttons are deactivated during the display input for the game. The keypad are smooth-running tactile buttons contrary to the cheap buttons from Manba. At the end, many things are implemented much more valuable by Betop. Manba seems to be the cheap product.
I wonder how long those membranes are going to last. Between the stiffness and how they look, I don't have high hopes for this being a long-lasting controller.
I have the original gamepad Beitong KP-50A（Kunpeng50）. Both software and hardware are quite different and would love to have a comparative review. 元になっているゲームパッドのBeitong KP-50A（Kunpeng50）を持っています。 ソフトウェアとハードウェア共にかなり異なるので、是非比較レビューをお願いします。
What on the hardwarevis different in the BTP-KP50A? I chan confirm, the keypad buttons are horrorable. And the fact, in case of customize the buttons during the game while the buttons are still active is it really hard to setup new configurations as long as the console is on.
@@rinosurber7919 Thank you for your question. I am not good at English, so I am sorry if I am wrong. 1, The cross button is a mechanical key.(microswitch) 2, There is no missing diagonal input on the D-Pad. 3, The stick can be set to 0 dead zone. 4, Button operation during configuration does not affect the game. 5, Pressing the rear buttons simultaneously does not cause abnormal behaviour. 6, The polling rate is 1000 Hz. 7, Stick, trigger and gyro calibration are available in the settings section. 8, More detailed settings can be made. 9, There is no Japanese in the language selection. 10, Use buttons A and B on the settings screen. 11, The buttons on the settings screen respond quickly. 12, The paintwork is very fine and beautiful. 13, Side LEDs are more beautiful. 14, Charging dock sold separately. 質問ありがとうございます。 英語が苦手なので、間違っていたらごめんなさい。 1, クロスボタンがメカニカルキーになっています。（マイクロスイッチ） 2, D-Padの斜め入力の抜けがありません。 3, スティックを0デッドゾーンに出来ます。 4, 設定中のボタン操作がゲームに影響を及ぼす事はありません。 5, 背面ボタンを同時に押しても異常な動作はしません。 6, ポーリングレートが1000Hzです。 7, 設定項目内にスティック、トリガー、ジャイロのキャリブレーションがあります。 8, より詳細な設定が出来ます。 9, 言語選択に日本語はありません。 10, 設定画面ではAボタンとBボタンを使います。 11, 設定画面でのボタンの反応が早いです。 12, 塗装がとても繊細で綺麗です。 13, 側面LEDがより美しいです。 14, 充電ドックは別売りです。
Hello thanks a lot for your in-depth reviews of the controllers, I need your advice. I had a GameSir T3 controller but it became faulty rapidly. What would be your advice for a great 2.4 controller for an Android box with motion detection and low input lag? Thanks a lot and keep up the good work
Are those button looking things in the handle functional at all? The clear face plate comes off and they look very pressable but I don't want to over do it and break them. They really look like a functional button of some kind tho lol
They may not have solved any of the issues that matter, but at least they solved all the problems nobody was having, like not having a big enough screen on their controller. So I'd be interested in this if they made it wired-only, shrank the screen, got rid of the LEDs, and fixed all the issues with basic controller function that you pointed out. In other words, if it was a completely different controller.
this controller would be good if it didnt have a masive problem which is bad deadzones that cant me switched or edited the pull for it is 8 to 9 and the jitter is 15 this is a really bad controller even when overclocking it the APEX 4 is way better
Again with the horrible 4 back button placements. Do these manufacturers never learn? You need to be able to press all 4 buttons without lifting off another finger to reach another button in an awkward position!!
@@rinosurber7919 no it has nothing to do with handsize. It’s about being able to press all 4 buttons without taking a finger off as many games require multiple button presses at once for different things.
@@OfficialMyMindset hmmm...i push the shoulder with the index finger. The first back button with the middle and the other with the ring finger. I guess you use the middle finger on the trigger, right?
@@rinosurber7919 It doesn't matter I can play with my index on the bumpers/ring on triggers or just index for all of them. The issue still remains the same with back buttons. Ideally you want to be able to press all back buttons with different fingers to allow to do multiple button presses without lifting a finger. Crucial in some games.
I love that you teardown every controller, no other TH-camrs do. I do the same after buying one.
Looks a bit like the "we have the Apex 4 at home" controller.
yup this is what china does, they copy everything even from the chinese. It brings competition so lower prices might be coming?
Some guy tryinna say it's better
How come every Asian controller company can make better controllers tha xbox and sony
It comes from the availability of cheap decent controllers nowadays. Now if you want to stand out, you've got to step up your game.
@@MadWinter889 Raise price?🙃
Someone is gonna mod doom for this screen
I totally agree with your review. I have the controller too. A really great thing would have been a touch menu. This would also solve the problem of active buttons during the game. In contrast to the Apex 4, the motion control is well usable and the sensitivity is good. The buttons, on the other hand, are disappointing again. There are a lot of good and bad things on the controller. So it probably only stays mid range over all.
Missed opportunity with the dongle not being used via dock pass through. Unshielded USB 3 is All too common in third party peripherals especially docks for things like handheld PC gaming devices.
The pass-through allows a quick and easy escape from interference with the bonus of usually getting the dongle right out in the open with a clear line of sight to your controller.
I can’t believe they still haven’t fixed that pass through problem, especially for the Switch mode. Guess we can’t expect much from Chinese companies.
Just had my third Gulikit King Kong Pro 2 break also. Was gonna buy this controller and you mentioned the EXACT same problems from months ago are still present. As far as I’m concerned they got one more month of me waiting for it to get fixed before I give up on waiting and just not buy it.
King Kong controllers suck, I had 2 die on me. As well as 8bitdo. I gave up on 3rd party Chinese controllers.
@@churchofsatan2041 same
@@churchofsatan2041 expensive cheaply made Chinese crap.
i bought a china version...they named it as betop kunpeng 50... manba one and kunpeng 50 are actually same controller just difference in name...but kunpeng 50 comes with mech tactile face buttons and gulikit hall sticks. supports multi languages
Manba one will update
I like all of your reviews.. Thanks!
Thanks for the great review, looking forward to your Vader 4 Pro review.
I'd love to see you review the FlyDiGi Vader 4 Pro that recently dropped.
Try an EasySMX X10 instead. Cheaper, too.
Great review as always VK. I think displays on controllers are a gimmick and waste of money. All I need is a cool RGB LED light design with options for different colors and animations, don't need a display.
Looks like a good controller that needs some more software fine-tuning.
Can you review the Betop BTP KP50A with a comparison to this one? 😊
I now have both, Betop and Manba. And they are both the same in terms of housing and the concept display. But that's it. Input options are much more diverse with the Betop. In addition, the buttons are deactivated during the display input for the game. The keypad are smooth-running tactile buttons contrary to the cheap buttons from Manba. At the end, many things are implemented much more valuable by Betop. Manba seems to be the cheap product.
I wonder how long those membranes are going to last. Between the stiffness and how they look, I don't have high hopes for this being a long-lasting controller.
Has any Chinese controller ever last longer than 5 years ?. the only controller that last longer than 5 is ps2 controller and xbox 360 lmao
When will u review the Vader 4 Pro?
By the way, when u review it, compare it thoroughly with the 3 Pro and Apex, especially the sticks
Coming soon!
@@VKsChannel thank you
I would love to see you review the Thunderobot G50S
I have the original gamepad Beitong KP-50A（Kunpeng50）.
Both software and hardware are quite different and would love to have a comparative review.
元になっているゲームパッドのBeitong KP-50A（Kunpeng50）を持っています。
ソフトウェアとハードウェア共にかなり異なるので、是非比較レビューをお願いします。
What on the hardwarevis different in the BTP-KP50A? I chan confirm, the keypad buttons are horrorable. And the fact, in case of customize the buttons during the game while the buttons are still active is it really hard to setup new configurations as long as the console is on.
@@rinosurber7919
Thank you for your question.
I am not good at English, so I am sorry if I am wrong.
1, The cross button is a mechanical key.(microswitch)
2, There is no missing diagonal input on the D-Pad.
3, The stick can be set to 0 dead zone.
4, Button operation during configuration does not affect the game.
5, Pressing the rear buttons simultaneously does not cause abnormal behaviour.
6, The polling rate is 1000 Hz.
7, Stick, trigger and gyro calibration are available in the settings section.
8, More detailed settings can be made.
9, There is no Japanese in the language selection.
10, Use buttons A and B on the settings screen.
11, The buttons on the settings screen respond quickly.
12, The paintwork is very fine and beautiful.
13, Side LEDs are more beautiful.
14, Charging dock sold separately.
質問ありがとうございます。
英語が苦手なので、間違っていたらごめんなさい。
1, クロスボタンがメカニカルキーになっています。（マイクロスイッチ）
2, D-Padの斜め入力の抜けがありません。
3, スティックを0デッドゾーンに出来ます。
4, 設定中のボタン操作がゲームに影響を及ぼす事はありません。
5, 背面ボタンを同時に押しても異常な動作はしません。
6, ポーリングレートが1000Hzです。
7, 設定項目内にスティック、トリガー、ジャイロのキャリブレーションがあります。
8, より詳細な設定が出来ます。
9, 言語選択に日本語はありません。
10, 設定画面ではAボタンとBボタンを使います。
11, 設定画面でのボタンの反応が早いです。
12, 塗装がとても繊細で綺麗です。
13, 側面LEDがより美しいです。
14, 充電ドックは別売りです。
@@Binchosumi thx for information. What languages are available on the controller? English as well or just Chinese?
@@rinosurber7919
Chinese and English available.
中文と英語が利用できます。
I looked at this and said “yeah I’d guess between 200-300$” BUT ITS ONLY 70?!?!?!
Hello thanks a lot for your in-depth reviews of the controllers, I need your advice. I had a GameSir T3 controller but it became faulty rapidly. What would be your advice for a great 2.4 controller for an Android box with motion detection and low input lag? Thanks a lot and keep up the good work
Machenike G5
Best cost benefit with 100% mechanical switches and hall effect sticks
Any model should do
Can it be used for xbox aswell
The fact that it imitates the design of the Apex 4 is already a bad sign.
have you heard of the replacement tmr sticks? they're by gulikit
Yep
Ill review those soon
@@VKsChannel are you apart of the aknes discord?
@@ike-2357 no
@@VKsChannel it keeps deleting my comments, would you like an invite?
@@VKsChannel you should join, it wont let me mention it
Are those button looking things in the handle functional at all? The clear face plate comes off and they look very pressable but I don't want to over do it and break them. They really look like a functional button of some kind tho lol
Its not
@@VKsChannelthank you!
Can you play doom on the screen???
Does it work on Xbox with an adapter?
latest flydigi vader 4 pro is now available
that's weird your XYBA buttons are membrane lol i guess i have the updated buttons because mines are clicky not mushy same buttons as the dpad
yeah it was updated, I have another video on the updated version
Yea there's like a v1 then v2
They may not have solved any of the issues that matter, but at least they solved all the problems nobody was having, like not having a big enough screen on their controller.
So I'd be interested in this if they made it wired-only, shrank the screen, got rid of the LEDs, and fixed all the issues with basic controller function that you pointed out. In other words, if it was a completely different controller.
14:08
For what controller are that stick caps en on the Apex 4?
these are just stic cap protectors
here's where I bought mine s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DB54duL
this controller would be good if it didnt have a masive problem which is bad deadzones that cant me switched or edited the pull for it is 8 to 9 and the jitter is 15 this is a really bad controller even when overclocking it the APEX 4 is way better
APEX 4/159.99$;Manbaone69.99$，Did you eat 90＄?
Can use on ps5?
Yes
@@mrlazy2343how:)
@@mrlazy2343 no he just said pc switch and smartphones
Prefere ele ou o apex 4?
Apex 4 sem dúvida
Why do these companies keep screwing up the cardinal directions with the sticks? It's so infuriating.
There is no reason to have a screen in a controller, it makes no sense.
This - it's a terrible excuse to drive up the price.
bonitão mas ainda não é o brabo
The Beitong Roc is a better version of Manba one by "better version" I mean it's a copied
8bitdo ultimate bluetooth clone
seems like meh.. better go for vader 4 pro fo 10 more
Again with the horrible 4 back button placements. Do these manufacturers never learn? You need to be able to press all 4 buttons without lifting off another finger to reach another button in an awkward position!!
In my case it works. And now? It seams it is depends of the hand size?
@@rinosurber7919 no it has nothing to do with handsize. It’s about being able to press all 4 buttons without taking a finger off as many games require multiple button presses at once for different things.
@@OfficialMyMindset hmmm...i push the shoulder with the index finger. The first back button with the middle and the other with the ring finger. I guess you use the middle finger on the trigger, right?
@@rinosurber7919 It doesn't matter I can play with my index on the bumpers/ring on triggers or just index for all of them. The issue still remains the same with back buttons. Ideally you want to be able to press all back buttons with different fingers to allow to do multiple button presses without lifting a finger. Crucial in some games.
It's a piece of crap.
Big screen with little to no usefulness...
Great review VK. Can't wait to have your opinion on the Vader 4 Pro soon 😀
Where can I buy it