AKA 1:40 single Maetobigeri, small step forward 2:06 second Kokutsudachi unfinished, Manjiuke unfinished 2:23 first Yokouke unfinished 2:41 Yokogeri unfocused 2:58 same as above 3:13 same as above With GANKAKU starting difficulty 9.87 (maximum value being 10.00; with these deductions 6 x 0.2 ) we arrive at mark 8.67 AO 4:57 Ipponnukite incomplete 5:05 Nekkoashidachi out of sync 5:08 Ipponnukite exaggerated 5:14 same as 5:05 5:13 same as 5:08 5:14-5:17 no Tateshutouke, Gyz shortened on two occasions 5:31-5:37 both Maegeri unfocused 5:49 second Gedan sokumenzuki not finished 5:54 added preparatory move for Teisho, added preparatory move for Fumikomi, Gyz in transition not focused 5:58-6:00 sloppy transitions 6:06 additional step back and added big step forward to facilitate jump With UNSU starting difficulty 9.78 ( maximum value being 10.00; with these deductions 8x 0.2) we arrive to mark 8.18 In our opinion wrong decision in a Gold medal match.
@@celleron8507 Dear Celleron, it appears that you are very excited (shouting that much!?). I suggest to train KarateDo techniques more and study logic as well. That way may lead you to tranquility and reasonable discourse. I am curious to learn about your learned assessment of the same performances (without shouting please…)
I agree with Ao losing the match. I don't agree 100% on your counts tho, I can resume my thinking by saying this - Aka is doing Karate-Do, Ao is making a performance, not Karate. Ao's Kata is only putting up a show with little to none practical use, as Aka is showing a lot more depth and understanding of Karate basis and Kihon, as well as practical use of the right movements
Athletic performance is amazing. I don't understand how Red can miss one count and sometimes not be focused enough on a technique so the next technique can be done quickly. Blue missed 4 counts at the beginning of the kata. I think we are still giving too much emphasis on athletic performance.
We practice Rohai, the form Red demonstrated. I don’t understand some of his movement but very close to ours. His high section knife hand cross block with back of his hands together is odd to me, our version is with knife hands in a v , as if catching opponents arm wrist in the ascending v, then applying a wrist twisting technique. Otherwise Red performance is impressive and practical I cannot say that his competitor’s form , which we do not do any version of that one no clue to the name, is applicable to real defense I could not visualize the buckai , such as Blue’s dropping low roundhouse kicks looked pretty but weak. I liked Rohai by red better
I will not deviate from the traditions of the Shotokan Katas I was trained, and tough by the JKA/ AJKA Standards. You can still be dynamic, with full control of the expansion, and contraction of each technique, without putting emphasis on accelerated speed, and timing. Not saying these Gentleman are not credible athletes, but I guess this is the new format in different countries.
The Blue Unsu Kata was more focused and it was a demonstration of what the moves should actually be in real time when you are being attacked something I think that should be done more in competition. Nobody wants to see the slow versions.
I have noticed that Enes (Ao) punches his gi to make snap effect. Do refs take away points for that or is that helpful to score more points? Im asking only for competitions, I know otherwise its not a good trait.
The guy in blue if you watch in slow motion was putting so much emphasis on speed it was a bit sloppy ,wasn't even finishing the technique red should have won
Can someone please explain to me why is Kazumasa Moto (and other top-tier kata performers) stomping? I was taught that stomping is a bad thing, also learned the same thing from many other sources and masters. Yet, all of the best karatekas make pretty loud sounds while transitioning from stances... Thanks!
So many things are wrong with Blue. It’s amazing how he (and those that taught him this kata) have changed this kata. For example before the tate shuto and jump. He does Kage Tsuki / that would be wrong it should be Gyaku Tsuki. Like this there are a lot of technically wrong movements in the kata. This I think happens when you break away from the source (Japan) and start doing your own thing. Regardless I agree with the other comments too much emphasis put on athletic performance. I wonder if where the tournament took place has something to do with it?🤔
Exactly . Who said you should change it ?? I’m 50 years it will change even more because some Sensei thought it should be different. SMH …. You don’t have to agree, but I like the Japanese version of this kata. I must be biased because my Honbu is in Japan.
Exactly . Who said you should change it ?? In 50 years it will change even more because some Sensei thought it should be different. SMH …. You don’t have to agree, but I like the Japanese version of this kata. I must be biased because my Honbu dojo is in Japan. Regardless, Enes Kata while super athletic for me is not technically sound. Run it back in slow mo and you will see for yourself .
Ma , Bravo Enes Majstore ...
Znao sam da ces biti veliki Sampion , davno prije ...
Oss
AKA
1:40 single Maetobigeri, small step forward
2:06 second Kokutsudachi unfinished, Manjiuke unfinished
2:23 first Yokouke unfinished
2:41 Yokogeri unfocused
2:58 same as above
3:13 same as above
With GANKAKU starting difficulty 9.87 (maximum value being 10.00; with these deductions 6 x 0.2 ) we arrive at mark 8.67
AO
4:57 Ipponnukite incomplete
5:05 Nekkoashidachi out of sync
5:08 Ipponnukite exaggerated
5:14 same as 5:05
5:13 same as 5:08
5:14-5:17 no Tateshutouke, Gyz shortened on two occasions
5:31-5:37 both Maegeri unfocused
5:49 second Gedan sokumenzuki not finished
5:54 added preparatory move for Teisho, added preparatory move for Fumikomi, Gyz in transition not focused
5:58-6:00 sloppy transitions
6:06 additional step back and added big step forward to facilitate jump
With UNSU starting difficulty 9.78 ( maximum value being 10.00; with these deductions 8x 0.2) we arrive to mark 8.18
In our opinion wrong decision in a Gold medal match.
Agree with this!
OH COACH, ARE YOU OLIMPIAN WINNER OR WHAT, YOU WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO DO KATA LIKE THAT SO DON'T TALK TO MUCH
@@celleron8507 Dear Celleron, it appears that you are very excited (shouting that much!?). I suggest to train KarateDo techniques more and study logic as well. That way may lead you to tranquility and reasonable discourse. I am curious to learn about your learned assessment of the same performances (without shouting please…)
@@draganklj I am not making fun of you just I want to learn that how did you learn so much and how long have you been practicing
I agree with Ao losing the match. I don't agree 100% on your counts tho, I can resume my thinking by saying this - Aka is doing Karate-Do, Ao is making a performance, not Karate. Ao's Kata is only putting up a show with little to none practical use, as Aka is showing a lot more depth and understanding of Karate basis and Kihon, as well as practical use of the right movements
Athletic performance is amazing. I don't understand how Red can miss one count and sometimes not be focused enough on a technique so the next technique can be done quickly. Blue missed 4 counts at the beginning of the kata. I think we are still giving too much emphasis on athletic performance.
We practice Rohai, the form Red demonstrated. I don’t understand some of his movement but very close to ours. His high section knife hand cross block with back of his hands together is odd to me, our version is with knife hands in a v , as if catching opponents arm wrist in the ascending v, then applying a wrist twisting technique. Otherwise Red performance is impressive and practical I cannot say that his competitor’s form , which we do not do any version of that one no clue to the name, is applicable to real defense I could not visualize the buckai , such as Blue’s dropping low roundhouse kicks looked pretty but weak. I liked Rohai by red better
What are counts? Im not very familiar with english karate terms.
Tebrikler Enes!!! Gurur duyuyoruz.
Mükemmel sinir iletim hızı.
0-100% very clear, perfect! Both of them 👍
Masya Allah, permainan dua seni kata karate yang sangat indah sekali, gankaku dan unsu
I will not deviate from the traditions of the Shotokan Katas I was trained, and tough by the JKA/ AJKA Standards. You can still be dynamic, with full control of the expansion, and contraction of each technique, without putting emphasis on accelerated speed, and timing. Not saying these Gentleman are not credible athletes, but I guess this is the new format in different countries.
The Blue Unsu Kata was more focused and it was a demonstration of what the moves should actually be in real time when you are being attacked something I think that should be done more in competition. Nobody wants to see the slow versions.
I want to see the slow version. Every move finished
Tabrik ederim özdemir sen için çok mutluyum
Mantap bgt yah
This is good gangaku🎉❤❤
Bro Enes Özdemir was my karate coach
Enes harikasın!❤🇹🇷❤👏👏👏👏
Super!
now let them fight in kumite to express themselves in facing an opponent , just like they do in other karate organization
I have noticed that Enes (Ao) punches his gi to make snap effect. Do refs take away points for that or is that helpful to score more points? Im asking only for competitions, I know otherwise its not a good trait.
More points
海外の四方突きは後ろ足に力が入ってないように見える。
この動画に関しては足元見えないから確定できないけど。
その場でくるくるするのが主流なのか。
The guy in blue if you watch in slow motion was putting so much emphasis on speed it was a bit sloppy ,wasn't even finishing the technique red should have won
Can someone please explain to me why is Kazumasa Moto (and other top-tier kata performers) stomping? I was taught that stomping is a bad thing, also learned the same thing from many other sources and masters. Yet, all of the best karatekas make pretty loud sounds while transitioning from stances... Thanks!
Hi! They are stomping because when you stomping your kata looks more powerful.
@@БеляшДуракОнлайн They definitely do make kata look more powerful, but are there point deductions for stomping or is it allowed?
I don’t think he’s stomping on purpose, it’s just that the movement is powerful and created the stomping sound simultaneously
Open hand age uke?
Muy sexy el turco.
Japanese Guy looks like central Asian Turkic Guy from Eskişehir 😂
They both look alike 😁
Valla helal olsun ben gülerdim heralde 🤣
So many things are wrong with Blue. It’s amazing how he (and those that taught him this kata) have changed this kata.
For example before the tate shuto and jump.
He does Kage Tsuki / that would be wrong it should be Gyaku Tsuki. Like this there are a lot of technically wrong movements in the kata.
This I think happens when you break away from the source (Japan) and start doing your own thing.
Regardless I agree with the other comments too much emphasis put on athletic performance. I wonder if where the tournament took place has something to do with it?🤔
there is no change about kage tsuki what are you talking about dude???? ıdont undrstand really
@@denizderyaakn2197 the Kata in it’s original form was a reverse punch not hook punch.
@@nycboxing8359 techniquies in katas change by time we can find another examples i remember that i saw and asked my sensei .
Exactly . Who said you should change it ?? I’m 50 years it will change even more because some Sensei thought it should be different. SMH …. You don’t have to agree, but I like the Japanese version of this kata. I must be biased because my Honbu is in Japan.
Exactly . Who said you should change it ?? In 50 years it will change even more because some Sensei thought it should be different. SMH …. You don’t have to agree, but I like the Japanese version of this kata. I must be biased because my Honbu dojo is in Japan.
Regardless, Enes Kata while super athletic for me is not technically sound. Run it back in slow mo and you will see for yourself .
👏🏻👏🏻
good
Awesome
世界最高の雲手
土屋秀人先輩を超えてる
Red won for me. It wasnt even close really.
Kiaaaaaeee, hoıundaaaaa, huuyundaiiiiiiii, yeeaamaaaahaaaaa, yiiiieeeeeyyyyyttttt savulün ülen.
😭😭😭😭
🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩👍👍👍👍
結果に納得できません。
これは明らかに誤審だと思います。
ある種怒りを覚えます。
青の選手は全く規範通りに動けていないどころか、タイミングもメチャクチャです。指摘すればキリがありません。審判は松濤館流の形を理解していたのでしょうか？
本選手の岩鶴で勝てなかったのが胸糞悪いです。
Şimdi eğri oturup doğru konuşalım Japon'un hakkı yenmiş.
Kazumasu win