I took ‘modern myth’ with Tom at Gordon College in 1982. He opened my world to Narnia. I will never forget Tom, my friend Peter S. and I drinking wine at his house in Beverly Farms until 2 am talking about everything and nothing. I will be eternally grateful to Tom for helping me survive the pain of love lost in 1983-84 after a women I asked to marry me... wouldn’t and didn’t !!! A gem in my life that at age 20-21 I could not have recognized for all he was. My five grown children have been to Narnia and know the Great Lion almost solely because of Tom. Amen.
I'm currently reading The Night is far Spent (delightful!) and I'm so glad to hear the author. As Eric says, it isn't just what is said but how his ideas are expressed. The reader is drawn in.
Another absolutely wonderful book is Death on a Friday Afternoon, Meditations on the Last Seven Words of Christ from the Cross, by the late Father Richard John Neuhaus. It changed my life and is very profound.
This is my introduction to Thomas Howard, of whom I had never previously heard, despite the fact that his sister, Elizabeth, is one of my favorite women of all time. His connection to Lewis directly and through Wheaton College and his love of language make me want to find a copy of "Chance or Dance" immediately. The great hymnist, Isaac Watts had a similar fascination even as a child which was not always appreciated by his father, the elder Isaac Watts. Biographers tell of an incident in his childhood which I couldn't resist setting to verse (of sorts). 'Tis said of Watts before his prime That frequently, not all the time, His wont was to discourse in rhyme In daily conversation. His father, naméd Isaac, too Decreed he must such speech eschew. Presumably, it caused undue Paternal consternation. Young Isaac, moved for papa's sake, Cried, "Father, do some pity take, And I will no more verses make." A clear exacerbation! I have come across people who, for some unfathomable reason, seem to actually be offended by the sort of well-crafted speech that Eric admires in Thomas Howard.
I bet I am the only one who paused this to watch the new South Park. On a related note I am surprised Eric had not heard Lewis refer to it as "The Whole Show". I have read maybe 6 of Lewis' apologetic books and remember hearing this. I believe it is in Miracles which surprises me since Eric wrote a similar book and would definitely have read Lewis'.
Caleb Morgan I was surprised that I hadn’t heard him call it that - or at least I don’t remember reading it, as I’ve read around 10 of his books not including Narnia.(You most definitely were the only one pausing this to watch South Park. Gotta have that high/low media balance! :) Part of the “whole” show).
It's so tragic that Metaxas doesn't have the patience to allow Thomas Howard the space, time and breathing room that would allow him to answer the questions and flesh out his thought! Makes no sense; Howard wrote the book! You claim to love it! He's sitting in front of you... SO LET HIM SPEAK and answer! LET HIM BREATHE! Metaxas never stop questioning and then incessantly reframing the question so as to dominate the "conversation." A good man, but an absolutely horrible listener. This might have been good.
It would have been a much more interesting interview if the interviewer wouldn't have interrupted Mr. Howard so many times cutting into his line of thought. Check out at the 30:20 mark how the interviewer continues his pattern of what "his" view point is and continues his praising of Mr. Howard which interferes with the flow of the interview. It's disappointing when an interviewer is taking time from the guest. It could have been a better interview with such an interesting guest as Mr. Howard if this interviewer would have been a better listener. I did find Mr.Howard a very interesting person and will look further into reading his works and searching out other interviews with him.
It is very frustrating that Ignatius press is not doing audiobooks. They are really restricting access to the great works of the writers they own. I'm just dying for Joseph ratzinger's introduction to Christianity to be on audio.
@@marykochan8962 Why audio? Don't get mad at me for sayings this but invest, buy, and read it. Great books deserve respect. Books changes lives. Cut back unnecessary expenses.
I have a feeling that approaching "Chance" will have similar effects on me as Lewis' "Till We Have Faces" did. For that reason I'm holding off until I'm ready to have my life changed. :)
I thought Eric did well he was trying to cover alot of territory so he had to pull him along a bit. Their friendship I think made it more permissive and not rude.
I took ‘modern myth’ with Tom at Gordon College in 1982. He opened my world to Narnia.
I will never forget Tom, my friend Peter S. and I drinking wine at his house in Beverly Farms until 2 am talking about everything and nothing.
I will be eternally grateful to Tom for helping me survive the pain of love lost in 1983-84 after a women I asked to marry me... wouldn’t and didn’t !!!
A gem in my life that at age 20-21 I could not have recognized for all he was.
My five grown children have been to Narnia and know the Great Lion almost solely because of Tom. Amen.
One of a handful of books, which I read, and then went right back to the beginning and read it again. (And a couple of times since.)
I ordered my copy of Chance or the Dance this afternoon. So glad it is back in print.
It’s positively tragic that more people aren’t aware of this channel.
Fantastic, I shall endeavor to read Mr. Howard's books.
Superb book! Great interview! God Bless you!
This was a wonderful interview (like all SITC interviews) and I am looking forward to part two!
The book is truly amazing! Thank you so much for making this interview happen.
The discussion begins at 7:59
I'm currently reading The Night is far Spent (delightful!) and I'm so glad to hear the author. As Eric says, it isn't just what is said but how his ideas are expressed. The reader is drawn in.
Eric certainly knows how to build up expectations!
Another absolutely wonderful book is Death on a Friday Afternoon, Meditations on the Last Seven Words of Christ from the Cross, by the late Father Richard John Neuhaus. It changed my life and is very profound.
This is my introduction to Thomas Howard, of whom I had never previously heard, despite the fact that his sister, Elizabeth, is one of my favorite women of all time. His connection to Lewis directly and through Wheaton College and his love of language make me want to find a copy of "Chance or Dance" immediately. The great hymnist, Isaac Watts had a similar fascination even as a child which was not always appreciated by his father, the elder Isaac Watts. Biographers tell of an incident in his childhood which I couldn't resist setting to verse (of sorts).
'Tis said of Watts before his prime
That frequently, not all the time,
His wont was to discourse in rhyme
In daily conversation.
His father, naméd Isaac, too
Decreed he must such speech eschew.
Presumably, it caused undue
Paternal consternation.
Young Isaac, moved for papa's sake,
Cried, "Father, do some pity take,
And I will no more verses make."
A clear exacerbation!
I have come across people who, for some unfathomable reason, seem to actually be offended by the sort of well-crafted speech that Eric admires in Thomas Howard.
Maybe because Thomas Howard is Catholic
I bet I am the only one who paused this to watch the new South Park. On a related note I am surprised Eric had not heard Lewis refer to it as "The Whole Show". I have read maybe 6 of Lewis' apologetic books and remember hearing this. I believe it is in Miracles which surprises me since Eric wrote a similar book and would definitely have read Lewis'.
Caleb Morgan I was surprised that I hadn’t heard him call it that - or at least I don’t remember reading it, as I’ve read around 10 of his books not including Narnia.(You most definitely were the only one pausing this to watch South Park. Gotta have that high/low media balance! :) Part of the “whole” show).
We want more
Eric is intelligent and means well but he negatively impacts his interviews by being long winded. The guests are great, we want to hear from them!
Agreed.
He needs to somehow limit the “Ahs and Umms”
So distracting.
It's so tragic that Metaxas doesn't have the patience to allow Thomas Howard the space, time and breathing room that would allow him to answer the questions and flesh out his thought! Makes no sense; Howard wrote the book! You claim to love it! He's sitting in front of you... SO LET HIM SPEAK and answer! LET HIM BREATHE! Metaxas never stop questioning and then incessantly reframing the question so as to dominate the "conversation." A good man, but an absolutely horrible listener. This might have been good.
Eric should watch and study Peter Robinson at the Hoover Institute . That's the way to conduct an interview.
I was there at Gordon when Howard arranged weekend trips with some of his male students
What happened to part 2?
Part 2 is coming!
Speechless?!!😳🤣
It would have been a much more interesting interview if the interviewer wouldn't have interrupted Mr. Howard so many times cutting into his line of thought. Check out at the 30:20 mark how the interviewer continues his pattern of what "his" view point is and continues his praising of Mr. Howard which interferes with the flow of the interview. It's disappointing when an interviewer is taking time from the guest. It could have been a better interview with such an interesting guest as Mr. Howard if this interviewer would have been a better listener.
I did find Mr.Howard a very interesting person and will look further into reading his works and searching out other interviews with him.
I looked for the book on audible. Didnt find it. Any chance that is in the works?
I second that motion.
It is very frustrating that Ignatius press is not doing audiobooks. They are really restricting access to the great works of the writers they own. I'm just dying for Joseph ratzinger's introduction to Christianity to be on audio.
@@marykochan8962
Why audio? Don't get mad at me for sayings this but invest, buy, and read it. Great books deserve respect. Books changes lives. Cut back unnecessary expenses.
I have a feeling that approaching "Chance" will have similar effects on me as Lewis' "Till We Have Faces" did. For that reason I'm holding off until I'm ready to have my life changed. :)
Don't wait.
Where is part two, please?
Nihilism is the most frightening darkness in the world. It leaves room for every evil to be done freely with a seared conscience.
Without conscience perhaps.
@@soniavadnjal5609 Yes, and that's the point of nihilism. It numbs and then kills the conscience that God gave all of us.
Brother of Elizabeth Elliott?
Eric, the only way to interview a scholar and a great writer is to let him talk. Period.
I thought Eric did well he was trying to cover alot of territory so he had to pull him along a bit. Their friendship I think made it more permissive and not rude.
Chance...Makes No Sense. 19th century you could make an argument for Chance. Today....not so much.
I wish there had been more about sex!
I wish they would spell out the $50 words